Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-07-01 Thread TW Tones
All especially those with competition entries, *Love all this work, wish I had these image design skills. *Whatever wins it would be nice to collect the final submissions (and previous ones) as collateral people building a wiki could use, on there home tiddler, as icons, favicons (sometimes),

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-29 Thread James Anderson
I meant @springer, not whoever skinner is :) On Tuesday, 29 June 2021 at 22:29:33 UTC+1 James Anderson wrote: > Hi Frank, > > I asked skinner to remove the alts, I was just playing on the same idea > and didn't want to flood the list of choices. > > Thanks, > James > > On Tuesday, 29 June 2021

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-29 Thread springer
With a tip of the hat to IAmDarthMole, I've been thinking for a while that one logo-version that *deserves* to exist is a version that takes that json mobius image posing as a zero, and makes it fit in seamlessly with the other numbers. I like that anyone who knows about the JSON logo will

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-28 Thread springer
Jeremy, I think your diagnosis is spot on: we have a collective surplus of enthusiastic creative energy from folks who would like to contribute to making TiddlyWiki intuitive, visible, and attractive. Those of us who have a deeper toolkit/skillset for graphics than for coding are especially

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-28 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Springer One thing I find myself thinking when I look at the entries is that the new release banner is a frustratingly constrained canvas for the creativity that we see here. The purpose of the new release banner is just to brand each released version, so that visitors to tiddlywiki.com can

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-28 Thread springer
Dear all, The gallery is now up to date including James' latest submission with emoji. Of course, multi-submission authors will need to winnow our offerings. I'd love to hear more feedback in the spirit of what Télumire offered over the weekend.

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-26 Thread John D
Hi everyone, here's my honest feedback, I hope it will be useful : springer : love the simplicity of it. I instantly understood what the update was about, only thing missing is the drag feature, which I agree with saq seems too

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-26 Thread TiddlyTweeter
springer wrote *(my emphasis) ...* > > [image: fields-arial.png] > > Some considerations shaping this submission: > > keeping filesize down (just under 28K as png w alpha; 14K as flat jpg), > staying visually "digestible" even at small size (while not overlapping the > caption-banner),

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-25 Thread springer
Hello all, Based on helpful feedback from Josiah, I further tweaked the masked-tw image: [image: fields-arial.png] Some considerations shaping this submission: keeping filesize down (just under 28K as png w alpha; 14K as flat jpg), staying visually "digestible" even at small size (while not

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-24 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao springer Yeah. It is interesting. I saw it as an arrow and only later saw it as the bottom of "W". :-) Visually the issue is is you had a band at the bottom that abuts the letters that creates a fictive impression. A small gap under the letters before the bottom-band would likely solve

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-21 Thread springer
TT, it did sot occur to me that the mask on the tv letters could look like an arrow. Below is a variant that shifts that effect: (at the expense of somewhat irregular letter-forms)... -Springer [image: dusk-field-alt.png], On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 10:51:07 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-19 Thread James Anderson
that's the wrong chroma-w, correct one shoud be: [image: chroma-w.png] On Saturday, 19 June 2021 at 11:26:01 UTC+1 James Anderson wrote: > [image: preview.png] > > Move things in from the sides a little and provided some alternatives ont > he same theme, > > [image: chroma-orig.png] > [image:

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-17 Thread Darth Mole
Hello all and thank you very much for your considerations and up votes! I wish to caution though that the when the image is smaller, as it would be viewed on the tiddlywiki homepage, the fish is much harder to identify. That was one of the reasons I switched things up in the 3rd/4th attempt.

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-17 Thread springer
Brian, done! On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 8:14:15 PM UTC-4 Brian Radspinner wrote: > springer, if you could replace my first two attempts with the below > smaller-sized version, I'd appreciate it.[image: v5.2.0_banner_brian.png] > > On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 4:26:25 PM UTC-7 springer

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-17 Thread Brian Radspinner
springer, if you could replace my first two attempts with the below smaller-sized version, I'd appreciate it.[image: v5.2.0_banner_brian.png] On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 4:26:25 PM UTC-7 springer wrote: > Frank, and all, > > My own sense is that your last entry is the most compelling of your

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-17 Thread springer
Frank, and all, My own sense is that your last entry is the most compelling of your set (and is probably the post to which IAmDarthMole is replying), followed by your #2. Out of IAmDarthMole's submissions, I think (as Frank did, apparently) that the first one (Assorted Swedish Tiddlers) has

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-17 Thread Frank Bruns-Ballhausen
Hi to all artwork fans, I can support what springer writes. But perhaps we should already agree on a few pictures where changes make sense. My three favourites so far are (excluding my pictures - these are the best anyway), here without a ranking: - iamdar-1.png (IAmDarthMole) -

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-16 Thread springer
Entries -- including through this most recent one submitted by James -- are all posted for easy comparison at https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/ Currently I haven't removed any entries except where authors have withdrawn them or indicated that one image is to replace another. So, Frank B

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-16 Thread Darth Mole
I really like that design f.brunsb! On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 5:22:18 PM UTC-4 f.brunsb...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have something more... > [image: entw5.png] > > TiddlyTweeter schrieb am Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2021 um 00:10:22 UTC+2: > >> iamdar...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Ok, modified

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-16 Thread James Anderson
something really basic: [image: キャプチャ.PNG] [image: 名称未設定.png] something about breaking things apart and putting them back together :) On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 22:22:18 UTC+1 f.brunsb...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have something more... > [image: entw5.png] > > TiddlyTweeter

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-16 Thread Frank Bruns-Ballhausen
Hi, I have something more... [image: entw5.png] TiddlyTweeter schrieb am Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2021 um 00:10:22 UTC+2: > iamdar...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Ok, modified 3rd attempt ... > > >> Author: IAmDarthMole >> Name: Drag n Drop JSON LG >> >> [image: Logo4.png] >> > > I PERSONALLY THINK that is

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread TiddlyTweeter
iamdar...@gmail.com wrote: > Ok, modified 3rd attempt ... > > Author: IAmDarthMole > Name: Drag n Drop JSON LG > > [image: Logo4.png] > I PERSONALLY THINK that is neat and semantic. It kinda grasps that 5.2.0 up is a change. Just saying, TT -- You received this message because you are

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread Darth Mole
Ok, modified 3rd attempt, so technically 4th, with different/larger arrow and hand to hopefully be a bit more visible when smaller. Also added a border. Author: IAmDarthMole Name: Drag n Drop JSON LG [image: Logo4.png] On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:34:57 PM UTC-4 Darth Mole wrote: > Here

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread Darth Mole
Here a third attempt, *less* small things. Hopefully those that remain won't be *too* obscure/hard to see. I wasn't able to really think of any other way to show "drag and drop" Author: IAmDarthMole Name: Drag n Drop JSON [image: Logo3.png] On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:11:31 PM UTC-4

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread TiddlyTweeter
jeremy...@gmail.com wrote: > ... I think there is too much textual content in many of the entries. > Creating new slogans/taglines for TiddlyWiki is not part of the brief, and > just takes up a lot of space. The artwork is designed to break the flow of > a generally text-heavy site; packing

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread springer
Mohamed, My reply to you is a bit late here... I wanted to acknowledge your thoughts about adding more graphic hints. In accord with Jeremy's note (posted since your message here), I've moved toward minimizing complexity as much as possible while hinting at both drag-and-drop and flexible

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread springer
Jeremy and all, Apologies for starting the trend by cramming something like a feature-slogan into a caption field! In addition, I recall that reducing file size, of anything that's bound to be handled frequently by servers, is a good aim. In the "dynamic table of images"

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread Michael Wiktowy
Understood and agree, Jeremy. I officially withdraw my submissions to avoid cluttering the vote but the SVG is available here under CC0 for anyone who wants to reuse it elsewhere: https://sextant.space/#Dragon%20Drop%20Shield.svg /Mike On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 4:47:53 AM UTC-3

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thank you to everyone for the entries so far. I always enjoy these competitions, and I appreciate the effort everyone puts into their designs. And I love the spirit of cooperation and friendly competition. I would like to make a couple of small steers that might improve the results: First, I

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-15 Thread Jon
I agree with Mohammad about the name change at some point . Apart from the wiki aspect, I think the diminutive associations of 'tiddly' (and I know this bit has been discussed before) are also in opposition to the grand scale of what TW can do. Regards Jon On Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread springer
Frank, I've added your designs to the collection at https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/ If you'd like to add any descriptive titles, or author name beyond "Frank B", let me know. -Springer On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 5:21:11 PM UTC-4 f.brunsb...@gmail.com wrote: > I have four ideas. The

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread Darth Mole
Hello Springer and thank you for handling the entries. Please see below for my details. First Entry- Name: Assorted Swedish Tiddlers (like the Swedish Fish candy) Author: IAmDarthMole Second Entry- Name: Assorted Swedish Tiddler Fields (original I know) Author: IAmDarthMole If I enter anymore

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread springer
Mohammad, All good suggestions! Though I usually don't embed images (and don't think tiddlyhost has file directories for such), these images are small, and presumably visitors would want to load them all anyway. So I've embedded each entry so far, and also set up an overview of the final

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread springer
iamdar..., and all, I'm sorry I don't know how to attribute an author name to your entries. For anyone who posts entries here, it would be helpful to include (1) how you'd ilke your authorname to appear, and (2) name of entry. I'll try to keep an eye out and update the site with entries, as

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread Mat
> > Or perhaps a water drop and a fire-breathing giant reptile ("Dragon Drop") > Yeah! Or a dragon spouting water/drops! Just above the TiddlyWiki: 5.2.0 field thingy. That would make for a really cool and odd art

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 12:37:25 AM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote: > Folks if Drag and Drop ia a key feature then what about a water drop and > someone in drag? Or perhaps a water drop and a fire-breathing giant reptile ("Dragon Drop") -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread TW Tones
Folks if Drag and Drop ia a key feature then what about a water drop and someone in drag? :) Tones On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 16:02:10 UTC+10 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote: > Here is another attempt based on what I read regarding a focus on fields. > > [image: Logo2.png] > > On Monday, June 14,

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-14 Thread Darth Mole
Here is another attempt based on what I read regarding a focus on fields. [image: Logo2.png] On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 12:43:30 AM UTC-4 Darth Mole wrote: > One of my attempts so far. Hope it isn't too off the mark! > > [image: Logo1.png] > > On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Darth Mole
One of my attempts so far. Hope it isn't too off the mark! [image: Logo1.png] On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote: > Hi Springer! > > I love your artwork! very nice! > > Minor comments: > 1. Why not host the image on >

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Darth Mole
Just something I threw together. [image: Logo1.png] On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote: > Hi Springer! > > I love your artwork! very nice! > > Minor comments: > 1. Why not host the image on > https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use >

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Springer! I love your artwork! very nice! Minor comments: 1. Why not host the image on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use dropbox? 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them on

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> I'm happy to host all entries again, in an easy-to-compare (and change > palettes, etc.) dedicated TW: > > https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/ Thanks, much appreciated! Best wishes Jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Mat
Springer - brilliant! On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:32:30 PM UTC+2 springer wrote: > Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: > https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields > > [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg] > > On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Saq Imtiaz
It might be helpful to look at the release notes: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20Pre-release I am biased but I think visually the image drag and drop stuff in the editor stands out, so that could be an idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread springer
Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg] On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Mat > > The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Mat
Fair enuff! <:-) On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:13:44 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote: > Hi Mat > > The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there > will be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's > important for everybody to be able to unambiguously

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

2021-06-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mat The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there will be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version