HELLO

2005-04-09 Thread pier
Here are your banks documents.


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Fwd: Bug and Possible Fix in JK 1.2.8 (I am not sure where/how to post this)

2005-02-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Begin forwarded message:
From: Ivo Conde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 February 2005 01:43:39 GMT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug and Possible Fix in JK 1.2.8 (I am not sure where/how to 
post this)

Hi,
 
I have found a bug and possible fix in the latest version (1.2.8) of 
the JK Connector for Apache+Tomcat.

 
The bug:
JK converts user http HEAD requests made to Apache into http GET 
calls to Tomcat


The fix:
There seems to be in a error in jk_ajp_common.c , inside the method 
static int sc_for_req_method(const char *method, size_t len).

The switch statement is incorrectly returning the GET method for the 
HEAD case.


Here is the buggy part of the method:
case 4:
 switch (method[0])
 {
 case 'H':
 return (method[1] == 'E'
  method[2] == 'A'
  method[3] == 'D'
 ? SC_M_GET : UNKNOWN_METHOD);

The fix:

case 4:
 switch (method[0])
 {
 case 'H':
 return (method[1] == 'E'
  method[2] == 'A'
  method[3] == 'D'
 ? SC_M_HEAD : UNKNOWN_METHOD); // REPLACE GET BY 
HEAD



The fix worked, at least for me.

The bug occurred in a Linux Red Hat Entreprise, Kernel 2.4.21-27.EL , 
EMT64 Processor (x86_64 GNU/Linux)


Can you please forward this email to the right place? Sorry if Im not 
following the proper rules to report this, but I dont have much time 
to learn about bug/patch submission methods on jakarta. I did search 
your bug database but did not find this bug anywhere. I hope this can 
be of some help anyway. This is my first contribution to the open 
source community since years, and I wouldnt sleep at night if I 
missed this opportunity to give something back, after having received 
so much from it.


Thanks and best regards,
 Ivo




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important document

2005-01-20 Thread pier
Please read the attached file!


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Re: Error in document

2004-12-12 Thread pier . fumagalli
Your important document, correction is finished!


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Re: [proxy] New implementation ready for testing

2004-08-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 11 Aug 2004, at 17:14, Mladen Turk wrote:
Hi all,
We've finished the initial development of extended mod_proxy.
Since the development took place at jakata-tomcat-connectors,
the source code can be found under ajp/proxy.
Here is the list of major features added:
3. Added new module proxy_balancer
What's wrong with:
ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:/
ProxyPreserveHost On
RewriteMap hosts rnd:/opt/apache/conf/tables/hosts.map
RewriteRule ^/(.*) ${hosts:live}/$1 [P,L]
It's in there already, and it works great (I even have a couple of CGIs 
reading and building up that table, enabling, disabling and 
prioritizing hosts).

http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/ApacheModProxy
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/LoadBalancingWithModProxy
	Pier


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Fwd: md5 sums for jakarta downloads

2004-08-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Begin forwarded message:
From: Andy Mudrak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 August 2004 00:57:44 BST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: md5 sums for jakarta downloads
Hi,

I noticed that your MD5 sums on your website are not all formatted 
correctly. I specifically downloaded the Tomcat 5.0.27 MD5 file, and 
found this out. Not that its a big deal or anything like that, but 
itd be good to have the MD5 properly formatted, that is the MD5 sum 
and then the file name


Thanks,

Andy Mudrak
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Document

2004-07-26 Thread pier
Important notice!

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Notice.zip
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Fwd: an little mistake on site ?

2004-01-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli


Begin forwarded message:

From: v.z. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 January 2004 11:19:40 GMT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: an little mistake on site ?
Hi.
On download source-site  seems is present en little error.
I've tried to check archive  JK 2 Source Release .zip by pgp 
signature, your provided , and had mistake because the KEYS file don't 
contains appropriate public key.
I'am not very experienced Linux user, and could make mistake , but the 
same procedure with tomkat archive was ok.
Vadim.
 
 
 

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Fwd: typo in tomcat site

2003-10-18 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked.

	Pier

Begin forwarded message:

From: Martin Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 October 2003 19:07:28 GMT+09:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: typo in tomcat site
Hi Jakarta Webmaster,

There's a typographic error in
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/class-loader-howto.html
The first bullet should read ... under /WEB-INF/classes ... and not 
... under
/WEB-INF/classe ...

Thanks. :)

--
Martin Gomez
Researcher, Ateneo Java Wireless Competency Center
CTC 213, Ateneo de Manila University, QC 1108
martin.gomez_at_acm.org / martin_at_decode.ateneo.edu
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FW: tomcat binary page links not up

2003-09-23 Thread Pier Fumagalli
FYI


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 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:46:52 -0700
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 Subject: tomcat binary page links not up
 
 Webmaster,
 
 I'm trying to download a tomcat file on the following page:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.html
 
 I keep getting a 404 error message, so I am unable to download the
 current version of Tomcat.  It looks like all the links on this page for
 downloading are not correct either.
 
 
 -- 
 
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 Line Support Technician - SBBT/FBBT
 (510) 714-0123 (cell)
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FW: Downloading Tomcat 4.06

2003-09-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Getting lots of those lately... Might want to check the website.

(It's not mirrored)

Pier


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 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:48:16 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Downloading Tomcat 4.06
 
 Where's the link to download Tomcat 4.06 for Unix?
 
 Rebecca Tye
 Unix Systems Administrator
 Lockheed Martin - EIS
 772-873-2049  Phone
 888-733-6856  Pager
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[Fwd: Need Tomcat 4.0.6 LE (jdk1.4) Binaries]

2003-09-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Getting a lot of those... You might want to update the links in the 
website to point to the mirrors?

	Pier

---BeginMessage---

We are using Tomcat 4.0.6 and I need
to download binaries, both the Windows install version and for Linux. Recently
4.0.6 downloads have disappeared from your website. The page http://jakarta.apache.org/site/other-releases.html
has a link for 4.0.6 binaries, but I get a 403 Forbidden error when I follow
the link (http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.6/).

Can you help me?

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Re: General question about download

2003-06-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Grzegorz Paszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 10:21:29AM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 Grzegorz Paszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i.e ecs, tomcat-4.1.24,
 Any example?
 On ftp.task.gda.pl and on sunsite.icm.edu.pl I'm not able to find rpm files
 for
 ecs and tomcat-4.1.24.

As far as I can see they haven't been published yet. They are not in our
downloads tree:

http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/ecs/
http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat-4/

If they are not in those two locations (and there are no RPM available in
there indeed), they do not exist (well, they might, but they won't be
available for mirrors to grab).

Pier


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FW: broken

2003-04-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked...

Pier

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 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:18:26 +0100
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 Subject: broken
 
 Hi,
 The link
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/coyote/jk2/index.html
 is broken.
 Thanks,
 Vijaya.
 
 ---
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 Heinz Nixdorf Zentrum fuer Informationsmanagement in der
 Max-Planck-Gesellschaft (ZIM)
 Phone:  +49-89-3299-1557
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FW: Files missing from website - webapp module builds

2003-04-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked.

Pier


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 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:13:35 -0600
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Files missing from website - webapp module builds
 
 I am following the link from:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/archives/v4.1.18
 
 that points to jakarta-tomcat-connectors binary folder.
 
 That link is:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors
 
 and the webapp directory under it is empty for the release builds.
 
 I am looking for the 4.1.18 compatible rpm for the webapp apache module for
 apache2.0.  Please let me know where I might find that.  Thanks!
 
 Sincerely,
 ___
 Bruce Friedman
 System Administrator
 
 CSC Advanced Database Solutions, Inc.
 (847) 330-1313 x146 (voice)
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FW: Poor documentation for jk

2003-03-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked

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 From: mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:25:52 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Poor documentation for jk
 
 Hi Webmaster,
 I would like to bring to light the fact that the documentation for the
 jk mod to bind apache and tomcat is severly skrewd.  It's saying to run
 scripts that don't exist and basically making it impossible to use jk.
 jserv is what we now use and i guess have to continue to use.  I would
 like to see apache remain #1 but that will not be the case with outdated
 documentation.  
 
 Thank you and best regards,
 Mark Nye
 
 
 

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FW: jakarta_tomcat_mod_jk connector

2003-03-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked...

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 From: Tony Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:33:01 -0800 (PST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Fwd: jakarta_tomcat_mod_jk connector
 
 As followup to my previous note, I have contacted redhatLinux, and found that
 their version of Apache for linux8.0 professional is httpd 2.0.40-e.  If you
 could please advise me of which mod_jk connector is compatible with this
 version of Apache and tomcat-4.1.1.18 and where I can download it, I would
 greatly appreciate it.
 
 Tony Lockhart 
 
 Note: forwarded message attached.
 
 
 
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 From: Tony Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:40:25 -0800 (PST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: jakarta_tomcat_mod_jk connector
 
 I have downloaded both mod_jk_2.0.43.so and
 mod_jk_2.0.44.so, although the readme stated that they
 were for linux 7.3, I assumed they would work with
 redhatlinux8.0.  I have loaded both of these
 connectors individually on my system using APXS to
 compile them, however, each time I have received the
 following when starting apache:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# /sbin/service httpd start
 Starting httpd: httpd: module mod_jk.c is not
 compatible with this version of
 Apache.
 Please contact the vendor for the correct version.
  
   [FAILED]
 
 So my question is, is there a version of mod_jk for
 redhatlinux8.0?  And if there is where can I get it?
 Thanks!
 
 Tony Lockhart
 
 
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I have downloaded both mod_jk_2.0.43.so and
mod_jk_2.0.44.so, although the readme stated that they
were for linux 7.3, I assumed they would work with
redhatlinux8.0.  I have loaded both of these
connectors individually on my system using APXS to
compile them, however, each time I have received the
following when starting apache:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# /sbin/service httpd start
Starting httpd: httpd: module mod_jk.c is not
compatible with this version of
Apache.
Please contact the vendor for the correct version.
  
[FAILED]

So my question is, is there a version of mod_jk for
redhatlinux8.0?  And if there is where can I get it? 
Thanks!

Tony Lockhart


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FW: openprojects.net name change

2003-01-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
FYI, not acked

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 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:08:50 -0600 (CST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Rob Levin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: openprojects.net name change
 
 Today (Jan 30, 2003) at 01:05 -0600, Rob Levin wrote:
 
 To the Webmaster,
 
 While browsing the Jakarta site, I noticed that the bug report page
 (http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/bugreport.html) still refers to the IRC
 channel #jakarta on irc.openprojects.net.  I just wanted to remind you that
 
 Oops, my bad.  that channel is #tomcat, and I should have directed my
 comment to the Tomcat team.  However, I notice that the tomcat team's web
 page still uses the general webmaster as their contact.  Please let me know
 who I need to email to fix this one.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 Rob Levin
 
 

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FW: dead links ...

2003-01-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli

 -- Forwarded Message
 From: Adam Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:29:06 -0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: dead links ...
 

 Hello ...
  
 I was interested in downloading the newest version of Tomcat and all the links
 I tried were dead.  Here's where it sent me:
 http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.1.17/
  
 Just wanted to let you know ...
 Adam Ferguson
 


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FW: Tomcat IRC link bout to be broken

2003-01-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli

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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:57:21 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tomcat IRC link bout to be broken

As you may or may not know openprojects.net was bought by freenode.net.
Therefore the server address you want has changed to:

irc://irc.freenode.net/#tomcat

Thanks,

Nick aka Hellaenergy ;)





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FW: documentation error

2003-01-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked... FYI...

Pier

-- Forwarded Message
 From: Stoffer, Shawn D [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:55:11 -0700
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: documentation error
 
 I wished to point out that in the jakarta/tomcat documentation, there is an
 error.  
 
 Under server configuration reference, Host
 (webapps\tomcat-docs\config\host.html), it shows, under the section heading
 request filters, an example of using the valve xml tag for the server.xml
 configuration file.
 
 Host name=localhost ...
 ...
 Valve className=org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteHostValve
allow=*.mycompany.com,www.yourcompany.com/
 Valve className=org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteAddrValve
deny=192.168.1.*/
 ...
 /Host
 
 The problem is in the regular expression, it should read:
 
 Host name=localhost ...
 ...
 Valve className=org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteHostValve
allow=\w*.mycompany.com,www.yourcompany.com/
 Valve className=org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteAddrValve
deny=192.168.1.\d*/
 ...
 /Host
 
 Without the '\w' and the '\d' the server will not start, as the regular
 expression engine will throw an exception.
 
 Excellent job, else, guys!  Thanks,
 
 Shawn Stoffer
 Stoffer, Shawn D.vcf
 

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FW: GPG key for mod_jk2 2.0.2 not valid ?

2002-12-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
FYI, not acked... Can someone look into it?

Pier

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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:12:14 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GPG key for mod_jk2 2.0.2 not valid ?

Hello,

I hope you won't mind my email, I'm a bit unsure about whom I should
contact, or if it may have been already pointed out.

I downloaded the mod_jk2 DLL for Windows, version 2.0.2
(http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk2/release/v2.0
.2/bin/win32/mod_jk2-2.0.43.dll),
when it was published, but I couldn't check the validity of its
signature file. I get the following error:

$ gpg mod_jk2-2.0.43.dll.asc
gpg: Signature made Wed Nov 27 15:39:06 2002 using DSA key ID 881EBC94
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found

I imported every keyfile I could find on apache.org, to no avail.

The 2.0.1 version I was using before is checked as:
$ gpg mod_jk2-2.0.43.dll.asc
gpg: Signature made Mon Oct 07 08:49:35 2002 using DSA key ID 43BBFD13
gpg: Good signature from Mladen Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the
owner.
Primary key fingerprint: CB31 CCBC 537F FC4F 2BAB  229E 9111 28C3 43BB FD13

Considering some recent events on other sites, I thought I'd better warn
you before starting using that DLL.

Thanks in advance!

Wishing you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year,

Laurent Blume
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Re: nagoya down

2002-12-13 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 13/12/02 21:39 Bradford Holcombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got some issues with 4.1.16 that I want to check against the Tomcat bug
 database, but nagoya is refusing connections.

We just moved the machine... And it works fine at its new home... You might
want to try straight from the IP address if your DNS is lame and didn't
refresh the names yet:

http://192.18.33.10/

Pier



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Re: Inputs from a Tomcat user.

2002-12-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 12/12/02 5:28 Sriram N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, I've always respected Pier's views on a number of topics, but I do feel
 that crap is a very flexible adjective. The users I help out with Tomcat are
 very pleased with the admin tool.

Bunch of loosers who're not able to see a server.xml or web.xml in a text
editor? Maybe, or maybe I'm one of those old farts who grew up with a
command line instead that a nice GUI (yes, I started off with those nifty
green phospores 8008s).

The admin tool might be a good addition. It is not _required_. And
following Byron's law: give too much power to lusers and they're going to
screw up your system.

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-11 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 12/12/02 1:06 Glenn Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking at the original vote I realize that what you ask can't be done.
 Tomcat 4 is the RI of Servlet 2.3, JSR 154 is for Servlet 2.4.  So it
 isn't possible to create a JSR 154 only dist of Tomcat 4.

It is _NOT_... Tomcat is the servlet container included in the J2EE 1.3
reference implementation. There is no whatsoever reference implementation
standalone of Servlet+JSP... The JCP did not bless that...

Only with the new JCP agreement (however it's called) it will be possible to
have an implementation of some spec which is included in a platform.

And given that JSR-154 is not yet final there can't be (yet) a R.I..

But I believe that what Jon wants is just an implementation of the
javax.servlet.** classes (let's try to be flexible and not stick to each
single word as if it were the bible, I believe the message is quite
clear)...

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 8:40 am, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remy
Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remember perfectly, and this Tomcat-HA was a complete joke. You
 proposed a new implementation of the Catalina classes, which doesn't
 make sense given the current Tomcat state

That's what I was asking...

 more
 or less what Jon does for Scarab, but to a greater degree, maybe even
 reimplementing some of the Standard* classes

It's in the archives...

Pier :-)


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 8:57 am, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Gomez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pier Fumagalli wrote:

 Pier (a _user_ now)
 
 And that's sad.

Not apparently, as I am the reason why noone picked up Tomcat 4 :-)

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 8:40 am, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remy
Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Like the httpd, I'd prefer having a full distribution of all safe (yes,
 Jasper is safe) and generally useful modules. Experienced users can
 tweak the configuration to their liking, and it is easy to do, but the
 beginners get an easy to run environment which does what they need (and
 obviously a lot more, since you'd want the distribution to fill the
 needs of 95% of users).

There is one big huge difference... Modules are DSOs, if you don't enable
them in your httpd.conf, they don't get loaded, they don't get used

Disabling all of them can be done by sed 's/^LoadModule/#LoadModule/g'.

If you get a binary distribution... (which, btw, doesn't enable most of
them, it just _ships_ them in the same bundle...)

If you don't get a binary distribution, when I build, I have a lot of tiny
--enable and --disable flags... I can _choose_ what to build, what to
install, what goes on my machine... This doesn't happen with Tomcat and it
SUCKS ASS. :-)

Don't compare yourself to HTTPD, learn from them, that's the only thing you
can do... :-) (suggestion from someone who has been around long enough).

New signature! :-)

Pier

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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 3:59 Jeanfrancois Arcand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (2) The Admin Tool should go with the minimal distribution of Tomcat. We
 decided to include JMX in Tomcat distribution...what's the point having
 JMX and not the Admin Tool? Maybe JSP is not required by all Tomcat
 users, but I'm sure a lot of them like to have the Admin Tool .

That is what I'm asking myself... What's the point in all this useless crap?

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 9:16 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I would love to see is a tree of downloads where each one gains more
 and more features (it is additive). Such as:
 
JSR-154 Implementation
   /  \
Jasper  Velocity
 /   \ \
 Admin Tool (JMX) Java Server Feces   Scarab

Jon... That spelling of JSF is (C) and TM Pier 2002 :-)

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 17:14 Jeanfrancois Arcand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Youy don't need to learn JSP/Admin Tool if you don't use it. The actual
 Tomcat installation doesn't require you to learn the Admin Tool or JSP

As I said 6 or so months ago... That thing is a security hole as big as
the Empire State Building... As most of the stuff that make up tomcat...
We have some bugs in JSR-154, few in Jasper, few in JSSI, few in CGI... All
together it makes a load of em...

If someone can come up with a Servlet-only distribution, at least I won't
get holes from all the other (totally useless) components...

Pier (a _user_ now)


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Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 15:16 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since things may get confusing around here, I would like to
 have an official vote on my prior proposal.
 
 This is the list of included features:
 
 Libs:
 - JMX
 - JAAS
 - JNDI
 - digester ( and beanutils, collections it needs ).
 - modeler
 - ant ( used for startup and automation of some tasks )
 - commons-logging
 When/if the JNDI-based abstraction of config files is ready we'll not
 need digester - but most likely it'll still be required by
 modeler, and also by jasper, so I don't think we can remove it.
 
 Tomcat:
 - subset of catalina ( non-deprecated interfaces and base impl that is
 required for tomcat to work ).
 - coyote
 - tomcat-util
 - http11/jk2
 - all valves/etc that are required for tomcat to operate.
 - naming
 - jasper ( at least jasper runtime - but probably the whole thing ).
 
 Votes:
 [ ] +1 I like the idea, I might help
 [ ] -1 I don't like the idea, I won't help.

I remember that when I proposed the same thing (roughly) and wanted to call
it Tomcat-HA or something like it, you said:

If possible, please also change the name - unless ASF gives you permission
to use tomcat name in your product.

I _love_ fairness and justice in this world... What-EVER!

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 23:06 Jeanfrancois Arcand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 On 9/12/02 17:14 Jeanfrancois Arcand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Youy don't need to learn JSP/Admin Tool if you don't use it. The actual
 Tomcat installation doesn't require you to learn the Admin Tool or JSP
 
 As I said 6 or so months ago... That thing is a security hole as big as
 
 Can you give me an example of a security hole? I would be interested to
 fix those holes

They come up every now and then... That's why Costin wanted that all-private
for your eyes only noone who is not cross checked with the FBI gets in
security mailing list, right?...

Want a list of the past ones?

http://search.cert.org/query.html?col=certadvcol=incnotescol=vulnotesht=0
qp=qt=tomcatqs=qc=pw=100%25ws=1la=enqm=0st=1nh=25lk=1rf=2rq=0s
i=1

(err, page 1 out of 24)...

 the Empire State Building... As most of the stuff that make up tomcat...
 We have some bugs in JSR-154, few in Jasper, few in JSSI, few in CGI... All
 together it makes a load of em...
 
 Yes, you are right (think about Windoses). Is the reason to have an only
 154 distribution is security? That a very different story...

For me it is... For others it might be a different reason... I joined Apache
because of a friend, you because of your employer... SO? Reasons are
different, outcome is the same...

 If someone can come up with a Servlet-only distribution, at least I won't
 get holes from all the other (totally useless) components...
 
 True. But if Jasper/AdminTool/etc. are secure, then that doesn't that no
 a good reason IMO.

Ehemm... With 24 pages of vulnerability notes? Ha.. Hahaha Hahahaha! :-)

Rule of the thumb #1... Not even

public class Main
public static void Main(String argv[]) {
System.out.println(This program doesn't have a bug);
}
}

Doesn't have a bug, allright? Because to execute that little statement my
proc actually does some bazillion operations, and god knows how many INC,
ADD, SUB and MUL my proc does to get that out...

So, rule of the thumb #2. No software ever written is _ever_ secure (Just
consider that the Boeing 777 software - which is the most secure OS on
this planet as far as research goes - Has only one bug every 180.000 lines
of code)...

Now, don't tell me that ALL that collection of cruft doesn't have a bug...
It's just that we are lucky and noone found them yet (given enough eyes...
Linus says)...

To sum up: rule of the thumb #3, less code, less bugs (you folks from Sun
preach that all over your Solaris Blueprints stuff, I learnt it when your
employer was paying my salary).

So, please, don¹t come up on a mailing list saying that is secure, just
say that noone has found a bug yet, because that (and only that) is the
truth...

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 23:38 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 On 9/12/02 15:16 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Since things may get confusing around here, I would like to
 have an official vote on my prior proposal.
 
 This is the list of included features:
 
 Libs:
 - JMX
 - JAAS
 - JNDI
 - digester ( and beanutils, collections it needs ).
 - modeler
 - ant ( used for startup and automation of some tasks )
 - commons-logging
 When/if the JNDI-based abstraction of config files is ready we'll not
 need digester - but most likely it'll still be required by
 modeler, and also by jasper, so I don't think we can remove it.
 
 Tomcat:
 - subset of catalina ( non-deprecated interfaces and base impl that is
 required for tomcat to work ).
 - coyote
 - tomcat-util
 - http11/jk2
 - all valves/etc that are required for tomcat to operate.
 - naming
 - jasper ( at least jasper runtime - but probably the whole thing ).
 
 Votes:
 [ ] +1 I like the idea, I might help
 [ ] -1 I don't like the idea, I won't help.
 
 I remember that when I proposed the same thing (roughly) and wanted to
 call it Tomcat-HA or something like it, you said:
 
 If possible, please also change the name - unless ASF gives you
 permission to use tomcat name in your product.
 
 Can you point to the proposal you made on tomcat-dev and the vote
 results to your proposal ?
 
 Are you saying you made such a proposal and it was voted down ?
 
 Or it was approved and I didn't allowed you to call it whatever
 tomcat-dev decided ?
 
 My comment was in the context of a product named Tomcat-high-availability
 that wasn't voted by the tomcat-dev. It doesn't matter if it is
 a revolution or minimal or whatever it does - it shouldn't be named
 tomcat-anything without ASF or tomcat-dev permission.
 
 If this proposal doesn't pass I won't do it somewhere else and call it
 tomcat-minimal. 

You're better than me in scavanging through EyeBrowse... :-)

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 23:51 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ehemm... With 24 pages of vulnerability notes? Ha.. Hahaha Hahahaha! :-)

Correction to self... Not 24 pages... 24 notes... (Ok, I have an eyesight
test tomorrow morning at 10:20 in SOHO... I know, I know...)

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 0:10 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But in this case you keep making false statements, and not only here. It
 should be quite easy to look for a [VOTE] or [PROPOSAL] that you made
 and was voted on tomcat-dev.
 
 Then find it.

I believe it never even went to [VOTE]... Got shut down before.. I usually
have the bad habit of asking others before proposing votes... And, well,
sometimes I don't really use that [VOTE] or [PROPOSAL] thing... I just hope
that open minded people will read and give opinions on a free-form text
subject base... 

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 0:30 Jeanfrancois Arcand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now, don't tell me that ALL that collection of cruft doesn't have a bug...
 It's just that we are lucky and noone found them yet (given enough eyes...
 Linus says)...
 
 I never say that and I will never says that. But I least I have try
 during the Security Audit to fix some of the obvious one. Still Tomcat
 is probably not enough secure (and will never be).  My point is if you
 are aware of such obvious one, then let me know and I will fix them.

You said (quote) Jasper/AdminTool/etc. are secure... That's a pretty bold
statement.

From my experience, security audits and stuff are all right, until someone
doesn't call up at 3 AM saying the server is down because of a DOS... Nah,
I don't like being woken up in the middle of the night...

 But I don't think Tomcat is more secure without JSP I know, I know, what
 I think you don't care :-)

The bible (for us Sun customers, _your_ customers):

http://wwws.sun.com/software/security/blueprints/#minimum

 Solaris Operating Environment Minimization for Security: A Simple,
 Reproducible and Secure Application Installation Methodology
 - Updated for the Solaris 8 Operating Environment
 - November 2000
 - by Alex Noordergraaf
 
 Discusses the process of minimizing an installation of the Solaris Operating
 Environment. Mimimization is the process of removing all unnecessary
 components and services from the Solaris software to reduce system
 vulnerabilities. Also introduces a simple technique for replicating these
 types of installations across a large number of systems.

_YOUR_ security folks tought me that... Go and talk to them, they're down in
SCA-7 if I'm not wrong... Paranoia is an irreversible process for us on the
line-of-fire.

 To sum up: rule of the thumb #3, less code, less bugs (you folks from Sun
 preach that all over your Solaris Blueprints stuff, I learnt it when your
 employer was paying my salary).
 
 Wow, didn't know that... I've missed the chance to work with you :-)

Don't worry, you would have _hated_ working with me (and proudly keeping up
my record of being the most hated freak on the planet).

 I should studies my Tomcat history and learn who is doing what, what
 biases he/she have, and then vote appropriatly.

Oh, no, I got paranoid after I left Sun and started working on the other
side of the barricade... Trying to use in production what I was coding
earlier... :-)

 So, please, don¹t come up on a mailing list saying that is secure, just
 say that noone has found a bug yet, because that (and only that) is the
 truth...
 
 I agree my wording was not appropriate. Should say that in french next
 time :-)

Pas de problemes (where are the accents on this keyboard?)

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] Minimal tomcat ( JSR154 + JSR152 )

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/12/02 23:58 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But in this case you keep making false statements, and not only here. It
 should be quite easy to look for a [VOTE] or [PROPOSAL] that you made
 and was voted on tomcat-dev.

I swear that _LOVE_ my mates... My friend Tonia, who's apparently better
than me in getting out old posts, actually _FOUND_ it! :-) Thank you :-) And
for your own viewing pleasure, that's it...

(OK, it didn't have the [PROPOSAL] tag, but the  wording was in there,
c'mon, be flexible! :-)

Yes, ok, that's so true... I also vented the idea that _MAYBE_ (but maybe)
someone could have reimplemented the Standard* classes, but WHAT THE HELL?

All I said I wanted was (quote myself) more or less what Jon does for
Scarab... 

I said that IN JUNE... JUNE for damn sake... And somewhere along this thread
when it after degenerated in the usual flame war that always happens when
something needs to be done you said If possible, please also change the
name - unless ASF gives you permission to use tomcat name in your product.

And now _I_ am the idiot who makes false statements... Damn... I _knew_ I
had a reason to be upset...

Tonia, thanks, I owe you two favours for this one (next time I'm in the US!)

Pier

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: 5.0 proposal
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:49:51 +0100
From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 That's why counts where not right on my side of the border... I don't recall
 vetoing the proposal... I just complained vehemently that I'd prefer to see
 4.0 out of the door and stable rather than a 4.1 and a 5.0...
 
 4.0 is out of door - the release happened long ago. So did 4.0.1... 4.0.4.
 
 4.1 is getting close - and it should be more stable and better than 4.0.4. And
 5.0 should be more stable and better than 4.1 and 3.3.
 
 And 6.0 will probably be better than 5.0.
 
 If you are interested in maintaining and improving 4.0.4 - just volunteer as
 release manager for the branch, you have my +1 on it.

I can't be a RM for 4.0.4 because I would simply remove 70% of the code, and
kiddies would start crying their butts off because they don't have the
manager application, or JSP support :)

But if anyone is interested I'd like to explore the opportunity of a
Tomcat-HA (high-availability or hard-edition), based on 4.0 without the
crap in there, and straightening out the request-response model...

Simply, take the Catalina classes, and remove piles of useless stuff (more
or less what Jon does for Scarab, but to a greater degree, maybe even
reimplementing some of the Standard* classes).

  I can't veto as I don't really care how you want to spend your
evenings and
  stuff...
 
  I don't think you can 'veto' a long term plan or release. AFAIK it's
  a majority vote.

Veto in terms of -1ing it.

 Pier



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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/12/02 1:06 Justyna Horwat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess the high art of potty humor is not lost on idiots. My buttocks
 are clenched in anticipation for the Pier (C) and TM fart jokes.   :)

Damn you know me far too well, Justy! :-)

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 6/12/02 16:09 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Create a separate minimal JSR 154 only distribution of Tomcat 4.x:
 
   +1  [X]
   0   [ ]
   -1  [ ]

Or simply use Jetty :-)

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 7/12/02 16:32 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The majority decision works only if enough people vote.
 
 So far we have:
 +1: Jon, Pier, Bill
 -0: Costin
 -1: Remy
 
 Anyone else ? 

For the records, please check in $CVSROOT/avail... I'm not a committer... I
only support _strongly_ the argument as an EX committer, because that was
the actual reason which forced me to move to some alternative servlet
containers (it was JUST A BIG F'IN pain in the ass to strip out all the crap
from the distribution every time a new release came along)...

That said, I also have to say that I won't be able to help in any way, as
reluctantly, now I'm spending my times coding around those other
alternatives to Tomcat, AKA Jetty...

Jon, I'm very sorry mate, you're 4 months too late :-( I lost my fight about
this very same topic back then...

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution

2002-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8/12/02 0:43 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 2002/12/7 4:25 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jon, I'm very sorry mate, you're 4 months too late :-( I lost my fight about
 this very same topic back then...
 
 Maybe to late for your opinion, but honestly, I haven't been that impressed
 with Jetty.

In my case it speeds up my stuff around 3/4 times faster. And the footprint
is considerably slower... Depends on the app...

 I saw very little if any speed increase with Jetty and Scarab and I actually
 consider Jetty's distribution to be packed with more crud than
 Tomcat's...but maybe I'm just biased by Tomcat.

That's what I'm working on! :-) Greg just removed (finally) all the Win .BAT
files from CVS and distros! :-) 3 less files! :-)

 At this point, I don't think that with JSR 154 and JSR 152 being separate,
 there is much that anyone here can say negative about distributing JSR 154
 only engine. Clearly there is a demand. Clearly it is a good thing to have
 options.

+1 +1 +1 +1 :-) I hope you succeed where I failed! :-)

Pier


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Re: mod_jk-2.0.42.so

2002-11-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 28/11/02 17:25 Pedro Igor Craveiro e Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Do you know what for is this libc.so.6 ?

Main C library for Linux, the one that contains also printf...

 When i run the httpd, he return that this shared lib could not be found.

Then you're in troubles. Update your Linux install to something more recent
(including the new LIBC) or recompile the whole kit-n-kaboodle...

Pier


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Re: mod_jk-2.0.42.so

2002-11-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 28/11/02 7:37 pm, in article 000701c2970d$2d408f90$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Pedro Igor Craveiro e Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok.
 But, with that first module(mod_jk2.(etc)) the i was using i can put the
 apache e tomcat together?

FreeBSD contains a Linux emulator, but AFAICR, it ships currently with
GLIBC-5 ... You'd better off recompiling the module (Apache part) native for
FreeBSD and the JNI lib for Linux GLIBC-5...

Pier


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FW: Apache Tomcat

2002-11-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli
FYI


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 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:23:52 +0530
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 Subject: Apache Tomcat
 

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Re: ServletContext.getContext() still completely broken.

2002-11-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Martin Algesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are we going to release 4.1.15 without addressing this?  This is a
 standard API call that currently DOES NOT WORK (or am I wrong, can
 anyone get hold of a foreign context from the ROOT context?)
 
 I've submitted a possible fix in BZ #13040  ... If you don't like it,
 then tell me why and I'll try patching it differently. I'm bored of
 maintaining my own patched up version locally.
 
 Surely a broken javax.servlet API call is serious enough to not be
 ignored?

I wouldn't worry too much about it now... It might even be deprecated in the
servlet specification in the future...

Pier


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Re: JSPC refactoring/documentation

2002-11-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd also like to point out that the servlet API changes are very
 limited, and it will be possible to use Tomcat 5.0 with the Jasper
 from Tomcat 4.1. So I think major new features should go in the 5.0
 codebase.
 
 
 What is a realistic timeline for 5.0 being released?
 
 I'm now independent and unemployed, so I'm not aware of the Sun
 schedules for the spec anymore :-P Probably within 3-6 months given J2EE
 1.4 is in beta. The rule is we cannot release a stable version of 5.0.x
 until the specs are final.

Regarding servlets, the JSR-154 Spec Lead did not inform us yet of any
deadline... I know that Sun wants to have it out soonish, but there are
still quite few bits and bobs to sort out (like friggin' schema).

If you have questions regarding JSR-154 (requirements/info/...) contact me
as I'm still the official representative for the ASF on the JCP expert
group.

Have fun...

Pier


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FW: R: GOODBYE from tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org

2002-11-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Who unsubbed this guy on Fri Nov  1 03:31:13 PST 2002???

1036089107 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's not a probe, so, someone (one of the moderators, I believe), unsubbed
him manually (see at the bottom). Any reason why?

Pier

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 Hello!
 
 Why has my address been removed from the tomcat-dev mailing list?
 
 Can you subscribe it to the tomcat-dev mailing list again, please?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Luca
 
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Re: production quality?

2002-10-31 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 31/10/02 14:36 Martin Algesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1. Tomcat should either not send any headers on a 304, or if it does
 then make sure that they do reflect the correct values for the requested
 object (e.g. not call a gif a text).
 
 2. Not entirely sure here. Reading the HTTP/1.1
 http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.3.5
 It states:
 If a cache uses a received 304 response to update a cache entry, the
 cache MUST update the entry to reflect any new field values given in the
 response.
 
 I suspect that is what we're seeing in mod_proxy. But I just realised
 that I have some reading to do, the stuff about weak and strong
 validator didn't make much sense to me...

I too believe that mod_proxy is behaving quite correctly according to the
spec... Tomcat should not send those headers... It will also impact client
(browser) caches, not only mod_proxy...

Pier


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Re: [4.1.14] New test milestone released

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/10/02 9:19 am, Henri Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ALL directories need to be 755 (therefore only THOSE and NOT THE FILES need
 to have the +x bit set) they need to look like drwxrwxr-x
 
 Why 755 on directory ? Shouldn't they be 775 to allow group member to
 update them ?

Oh, mefuck... drwxrwxr-x :-) 775, finger slipped.


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Re: Someone fix this...

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 29/10/02 11:35 pm, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 29/10/02 23:02, Mike Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 DOH!
 
 Sorry.  Thats what you get when you get a Non-Unix weanie to play around on a
 Unix box.  I knew that I've had to do this in the past but completely spaced
 it for this.  This should be fixed now.
 
 Rsync should run in another 5 hours now... Will see tomorrow in the morning.

Yes, Mike, went thru perfectly... Please guys, when you post something on
Daedalus, be careful about the files permissions... We're organizing for
also Jakarta to be mirrored, sooo :-)

If you use scp to put files on daedalus, note that putting umask 002
in your .profile (bash/sh) or .login ? (tcsh) file will solve the problem
(well, in theory, but it'll be definitely better than what you have now! :-)
And I recently figured out that not all of you know that)

Thanks for listening... Hoping that Remy doesn't consider the ASF intent to
mirror all Jakarta nosise for notihg, right Remy?

Pier


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Re: production quality?

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/10/02 6:06 pm, Martin Algesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An incorrect If-Modified-Since response seems to shag mod_proxy. Now I
 don't know how widely used mod_proxy is, or if perhaps this should be
 fixed there instead. However I am concerned about this and as I pointed
 out I am happy to look into it myself, however I would appreciate a hint
 of what to look at. You mention a header refactoring, elaborate?

Could it be what we are observing on http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse when
we pass stuff in the backend on port 8080?

What would be the outcome of this? (I mean you know any way in which I can
find out if this is the bug we're seeing)

Pier


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Re: production quality?

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/10/02 20:02, Martin Algesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a nutshell mod_proxy updates its cached entries with whatever new
 headers are given to it. E.g. first request comes into mod_proxy and it
 can't find the requested resource in its cache. It forwards on to my
 tomcat who responds with something like:
 HTTP/1.1 200
 Content-Type: image/gif
 Content-Length: 12345
 
 Second call comes into mod_proxy this time with an If-Modified-Since
 for the same resource. mod_proxy needs to revalidate its cached entry
 against tomcat and does an If-Modifed-Since against tomcat and tomcat
 answers:
 HTTP/1.1 304
 Content-Type: text/html
 Content-Length: 0
 
 At this point mod_proxy updates it's cached entry and ends up with a gif
 that has got a Content-Type set to text/html.
 
 Further requests to mod_proxy without If-Modified-Since results in
 GIFs with strange content types. Thank god for IE not trusting the
 content type :)

Nope, that's not it, but it's a good catch. We don't keep proxied content
cached... Thanks a lot for the clarification...

Pier (gone diggin' mirrors)


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Re: TOMCAT memory usage : how to manage and benchmark ?

2002-10-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
jean-frederic clere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Linux threads implementation is _bad_ but that does not mean that the
 whole thing bad.

That's why I said works for you? Good... For our setup we _need_
threads...

 For the Fun. The kernel threads appair also in ps but I have not (yet) tried
 to kill one ;-)

It can provide hours of entertainment... Last time I tried it was _so_
wicked! :-)

Pier


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Re: 10/29/02 Notes

2002-10-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
One might still feel he's on the pteam! :-)

pier

On 29/10/02 22:00, Jean-Francois Arcand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Oups..wrong list...sorry.
 
 -- Jeanfrancois
 Jean-Francois Arcand wrote:
 
 are available under
 
 http://javaweb.sfbay.sun.com/~ja120114/security-audit/SecurityAudit.html
 
 Let me know if something is missing.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -- jeanfrancois
 
 
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Someone fix this...

2002-10-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
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lm.asc: Permission denied
send_files failed to open
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.asc: Permission denied

Files not mirrored...

Pier


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Re: Someone fix this...

2002-10-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 29/10/02 23:02, Mike Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DOH!
 
 Sorry.  Thats what you get when you get a Non-Unix weanie to play around on a
 Unix box.  I knew that I've had to do this in the past but completely spaced
 it for this.  This should be fixed now.

Rsync should run in another 5 hours now... Will see tomorrow in the morning.

Pier


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Re: [4.1.14] New test milestone released

2002-10-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 29/10/02 22:46, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Remy Maucherat wrote:
 
 A new test milestone of Tomcat 4.1 has just been released. Please help
 test this upcoming Tomcat release for compliance issues and other
 problems.
 
 Downloads:
 http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/test/v4.1.14/
 
 Significant changes over 4.1.13 include a security manager bugfix. Over
 4.1.12, Tomcat 4.1.14 includes bugfixes as well as performance
 improvements.
 
 The full list of changes is available in the release notes.
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/test/v4.1.14/RELEASE-NOTES
 
 One small issue: the .zip file doesn't have +x on the bin/ files.

Ehemm... Actually, the whole thing is completely wrong (I mean how the files
are on daedalus, not only what you said, Costin)...

_MAKE_SURE_ (this is _very_ important for mirrors, and I'm trying to enforce
it now that we're not _yet_ mirrored heavily) that your UMASK is set to 002
ZARRO ZARRO TO when putting stuff in /www, that _ALL_ the files you
create have a 664 mode (therefore when listing them, it needs to come out
with -rw-rw-r-- ...)

ALL directories need to be 755 (therefore only THOSE and NOT THE FILES need
to have the +x bit set) they need to look like drwxrwxr-x

If you don't have a clue of what I'm talking about, make sure you do man
chmod and man umask from your favorite Linux (HAHA!) box...

Seriously speaking, now, with the way in which the files for 4.1.14 are laid
out, they can't be moved, deleted, removed, updated, mirrored by anyone but
Remy (nah, probably right now with my config I can get them mirrored, but
anyhow, DON¹T DO IT)

Thankyou! :-)

Pier


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Re: TOMCAT memory usage : how to manage and benchmark ?

2002-10-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So,
 
 My first question is : why tomcat use all the memory while there is no
 users connected (or just one) ?

The JVM allocates chunks of memory (see the -Xmx and -Xms flags by invoking
java -X) and manages them... So, one user, 100 users, same thing...

 My second question is : how much memory is needed if I want to use tomcat
 with many users (500, 1000,...) ?

On a 5 millions hits/day server (not running Tomcat, another servlet
container since Tomcat doesn't work for us), we have the VM starting with 1
Gigs of RAM (java -server -Xmx 1024m -Xms 1024m ...) but we use half of it
(roughly) to cache data from the DB...

 I already read in the forum Tomcat don't manage the memory, it is the
 JVM... so why the jvm use so many processes ?

Those are _not_ processes, they are threads... Use a decent operating system
that supports them nicely (not Linux) and you'll see the difference (how
many times do I have to repeat this?)... Linux sucks :-(

Pier


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Re: TOMCAT memory usage : how to manage and benchmark ?

2002-10-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Henri Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Linux threads are +/- process and are really cheap to create, so it's
 should be a problem.
 
 Read, it shouldn't be a problem 

It is a problem because every time someone does a PS goes _nuts_ about the
number of JVM processes... While at the end they are just threads... I
believe I replied to this question at least 200 times in the past 5 years,
and _still_ I see people asking...

And try to do a little piece of code creating 1000 threads on Linux and on
Windows 2k... Just to see which one is faster (and I believe we _all_ agree
that Windows sucks!)

:-) Anyhow, the old battle on why Linux sucks is over... Works for you,
well, use it! :-)

Pier (MacOS/X rocks!)


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Re: Réf. : Re: TOMCAT memory usage : how tomanage and benchmark ?

2002-10-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Henri Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what is the goog hard config for 500 concurrent users on the same tomcat
 server ?
 
 It depend on your application, but I'll recommand a least 3 fast Intel
 based linux boxes, with about 512Mo of RAM, and in front an Apache
 1.3/2.0 box + mod_jk.

Or just one Sun dual 440 UltraSparc IIi, 1 Gb/ram, Solaris 8 and some tweaks
(all in one box). That's our config, and that's roughly our traffic (ok,
maybe 300/400 concurrent request).

Henri's right... Depends on what your webapp has to do, though...

Pier


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Re: [OT]Re: TOMCAT memory usage : how to manage and benchmark ?

2002-10-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What operating system do you prefer, Pier?

We use Solaris both for Intel and Sun platforms... First reason being is
that we _know_ how that OS works, it's much more tuneable on live systems,
and much easier to configure when you know what you're doing...

Especially relating to Java, Solaris 8 was our platform of choice because of
threading support. Linux threads behave like processes (you see them in ps
for instance), that said it doesn't only have a visual disadvantage (that
same output can be generated on Solaris with ps -AfL), but also a
practical one... Limits and signals...

First of all, threads-as-processes are vulnerable to signals, and therefore,
given a bug in the VM (let's say a SEGV), what _can_ happen that only that
process dies (instead of the whole JVM set of processes), I've seen that
happening. Good point about that is that your Tomcat is going to be up, bad
point about that is that it's going to really mess up the JVM internals
(that's why Thread.kill() has been deprecated, and plus other random
reasons). Short story, threads-as-processes are much weaker than
threads-as-threads because of their behaviour towards the OS kernel...

Second point about Solaris 8 is the _two_ different configurations of
threads you can have... One is the default one, and works, but in some cases
(fixed number of threads, usually pooled, yadayadayada) a nice thing such as
LWP threads (used by pre-binding the /usr/lib/lwp/libthread.so in Java)
can come _really_ handy and delivers a _lot_ more performances... (this
helps a _lot_ also with Apache 2.0/worker).

Third reason, limits... In case of highly loaded environments, the kernel
will stop creating processes (and therefore threads under Linux) once the
process limit is reached, threads-as-threads don't suffer from that because
they are nested within their process scope, and the limit is _much_
higher.

File descriptor limits, memory limits, swapping, and so on, come for free
for us using Solaris, and it's _so_easy_ to tweak your network parameters on
live systems by tweaking the kernel with NDD (file descriptors are in
CLOSE_WAIT, no problem, set an NDD variable, and you're done)...

Plus, what the heck, Solaris 8 minimal install is probably 20 packages and
100 Mb for both 32 and 64 bits, while if you install RedHat, you can never
get below 400 Mb! :-) I love my disk space, and less code, less chances for
a bug, right??? :-)

It works for us, it has been working for ages, and we actually replaced all
our old Linux/x86 installations with Solaris8/x86.

That's production... For development, _of_course_ I use MacOS/X 10.2.2 which
is by far the best desktop on the planet... I've had a short test with an
X-Serve and load, performed allright (far better than a same-price Dell
box), but it went nowhere because at the same time we inherited a lot more
Sun Hardware for free (roughly! :-) so, we decided that we wanted to reuse
all those nice UltraSparc machines! :-)

Pier


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Re: TOMCAT memory usage : how to manage and benchmark ?

2002-10-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 28/10/02 22:40, Bojan Smojver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 00:31, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 Those are _not_ processes, they are threads... Use a decent operating system
 that supports them nicely (not Linux) and you'll see the difference (how
 many times do I have to repeat this?)... Linux sucks :-(
 
 Ha, ha... Keep dreaming Pier ;-)

Works for you? Good! Doesn't for me! :-)

Pier


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Problems mirroring the tomcat distribution site...

2002-10-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
send_files failed to open
/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/archives/v4.0.5/bin/hotfix/13365.zip.asc:
Permission denied

send_files failed to open
/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.5/bin/hotfix/13365.zip.asc:
Permission denied

send_files failed to open
/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/release/v1.2.0/bin/netware/mod_jk_1.3.n
lm.asc: Permission denied

send_files failed to open
/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/release/v1.2.0/bin/netware/mod_jk_2.0.4
2.nlm.asc: Permission denied

send_files failed to open
/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/jk/release/v1.2.0/bin/netware/nsapi_rd.nlm
.asc: Permission denied


Can you guys (remm and mmanders) make sure you have the privileges set
corretly? Please (to the list) when updating stuff in /build make sure the
correct privileges are set as that stuff is mirrored...

Pier


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WEB.XML not reloaded???

2002-10-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Anyone noticed that the web.xml doesn't get reloaded when I reload a
deployed context under 4.0?

Or is it me being stupid?

Pier


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Re: [VOTE] tomcat-commiters list

2002-10-14 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 14/10/02 19:45, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The proposal needs to identify a moderator.  The moderator will be the one
 who approves subscription requests (as well as filtering out spam).

And AFAIK, we've roughly always said no to extra mailing list (but -dev
-cvs and -users) to keep all projects more-or-less in sync...

Pier


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Re: jk2 and daemon ( was Re: commons-daemon release ?)

2002-10-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - starting a VM using exec / monitor the child process. It is not
 implemented yet in jk2 - but pretty important ( it's one of the features
 from jserv that wasn't yet ported). It seems daemon has a bit
 of code - as I mentioned from reading it I don't think it works,
 and it would be better to use the code from jserv for this - whenever
 we do implement this.

That was the feature which created more problems in JServ... I remember me
and Ed hammering on it for months in 97/98. My hint, forget about it, also
because if you tie it to the web server process, when you take down the Web
Server, also your servlet engine is going to go down, and that's not a very
desirable feature given how much time it takes to initialize 7/8 web
applications

Pier


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Re: jk2 and daemon ( was Re: commons-daemon release ?)

2002-10-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 10/10/02 20:21, Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The 'feature' is that all tomcat processes ( and you may run more than
 one in a load balanced mode ) can be started automatically and monitored.
 If one dies, it'll be automatically restarted.

tip
  http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
  It's there, it works, don't reinvent the wheel
/tip

 To make things interesting, this information ( and other like that ) needs
 to be communicated to apache servers ( to stop sending requests to
 not-ready servers ), and potentially to an eventual JMX proxy. This is
 the kind of 'control channel' that was proposed several times and will
 have to be implemented for other purposes.

I read Covalent Managed Servers Console all over the place on this one!
:-) Incredible what marketing does to people! :-) I also know that maybe a
couple of clients of yours here in London might like that feature, as they
asked me if it was possible to implement... :-) As far as I'm concerned, I'm
happy with my old way of CVSing out web-applications and deploying them on
my servers keeping them in sync, and if something dies, Mr. Bergstein
(cr.yp.to) already wrote everything I need! :-)

 So there are separate issues - the most important beeing the startup
 of tocmat(s) automatically ( like jserv - but not strictly tied to apache
 process lifecycle ).

I can tell you that our main Java instance for VNUNET.COM takes
approximately 4 to 5 minutes to start... If I don't reply to HTTP when that
thing is down, I'm going to loose my job, so it's not something I feel that
in a real-life production environment comes handy...

That said, if that's your itch, scratch it... I'm not going to use it! :-)

Pier


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Re: Cannot build mod_webapp.so on Solaris 8

2002-10-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 10/10/02 22:23, James C. McMaster (Jim) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I know this is not the proper place to ask configuration questions, but I do
 not believe this is such.

Use mod_jk


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Re: jk2 and daemon ( was Re: commons-daemon release ?)

2002-10-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 11/10/02 3:14, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 2002/10/10 6:50 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I can tell you that our main Java instance for VNUNET.COM takes
 approximately 4 to 5 minutes to start...
 
 OUCH.

Our main web-app has roughly 400 JSP pages to compile (you never know), 20
servlets loaded on startup, 4 lucene indexes to open, 500 connections to the
database, 350/400 megabytes of cached objects to de-serialize and put down
into memory, and some initial synchronization checks with the DB to find out
what are the articles that need to be displayed first (articles ranking) out
of an history of some hundred thousand of them (all on line)...

It is a big bubba, the JVM memory size is somewhat in the range of 640 Mb...
:-) (and it's just 1 web-application out of 6)

Only problem? Tomcat doesn't scale that high :-(

Pier


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Re: JSP 2.0's J2SE 1.4 Requirement

2002-10-08 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 5/10/02 12:43 am, Mark Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It has been brought to my attention that some members of the Tomcat
 community have expressed a desire to see a requirement lower than J2SE
 1.4 in JSP 2.0.

Great... One more reason to start thinking about kicking JSP out of the
door! :-) I'm not going to run 1.4 in production for quite some time :-)

Pier


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Re: Cannot Build WebApp on Solaris 2.8

2002-09-27 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 27/9/02 0:22, Jay Ebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I followed the Building the WebApp module exactly and cannot build the
 webapp module for Solaris 2.8 using gcc 2.95. After a successful
 ./configure ... , I get the following errors on the make:

Use mod_jk


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Tired...

2002-09-27 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Since I'm tired of you lot, I'm going to say goodbye and retire in lala-land
http://www.psc.edu/science/tang.html... Have fun and try not to hit
bugtrack too often! :-)

Pier


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Re: Jasper 2 Question

2002-09-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Hm The original question was about line numbers on JSPs, when they 
are compiled, and when they are executed and throw exceptions, right? 
Yes, it was...

I said use some tea because Tea, developed by Disney, goes exactly in 
that direction, not having middle layer .java files over which the 
line number get messed up, they simply compile a template straight into 
.class having both the advantage of compiled templates, and the 
advatage that line numbers, both at compilation and runtime, are 
preserved...

I am simply pointing out an alternative solution to your problem of 
line numbers, if that's ridiculous, well, that's _your_ problem... Not 
mine

Die, JSPs, DII! :-)

Pier

On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 07:30 PM, Lenny Karpel wrote:

 is it right that when I ask a serious question about jasper2 that I get
 these totally ridiculous answers ?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:48 AM
 To: tomcat-dev
 Subject: Re: Jasper 2 Question


 on 2002/9/19 8:06 AM, Lenny Karpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sorry .. I don't understand your response !

 are you saying that we shouldn't use jsp ?

 I have been saying that for years now!

 http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html

 =)

 -jon


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Re: Jasper 2 Question

2002-09-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 10:24 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote:

 On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:30, Lenny Karpel wrote:

 is it right that when I ask a serious question about jasper2 that I 
 get
 these totally ridiculous answers ?

 Well, Jon and Pier are known to throw in a curly one from time to time,
 which keeps all of us here on the list in good spirits  ;-)

Nonono... he has a problem with templates line numbers... I poined out 
that simply changing the technology and not using something so 
inerently stupid, you can overcome the problem...

Ok, maybe I assumed that he clicked on the link I provided, and read 
some of the features of Tea... Assuming too much always...

 side to all this as JSP's are inherently
 evil. You'll find that creating true MVC applications in Velocity is
 almost trivial. I suggest you do read Jon's article. The fact that 
 JSP's
 are official, doesn't mean they are good.

Means that it's bad because it took me 6 months to make my employer 
understand that they are so evil, and that their server goes down 2 
times a month when some idiot forgets to put jsp:session 
value=false or whatever the story is with that thing

I'm not keen of giving control to my entire application and Java 
Virtual Machine (crunching some million servlet/hits a day) to a guy 
whose best skill is to use Macromedia DreamWeaver...

And now my problem is that I have to rewrite some 5000 something 
pages... Bah... But it's better to do it now rather than waiting for 
another 5000 to be created and get stuck with JSPs forever. :-)

Pier


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Re: 4.1.10 tarball is borked.

2002-09-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 11:35 PM, Ian Darwin wrote:

 They admit that they aren't POSIX conformant, and claim that they will 
 be, and will
 do it in a different way than GNUtar does at present. Do you know if 
 this article
 is up to date? Well I guess it must be, it's on gnu.org.

 Obviously it would be good if all tars could read each others' 
 archives.

[pier@bubbles] ~ $ gnutar --help
GNU `tar' saves many files together into a single tape or disk archive, 
and
can restore individual files from the archive.
[]
Archive format selection:
   --posixwrite a POSIX conformant archive
[...]
GNU tar cannot read nor produce `--posix' archives.  If POSIXLY_CORRECT
is set in the environment, GNU extensions are disallowed with `--posix'.
Support for POSIX is only partially implemented, don't count on it yet.
[...]
[pier@bubbles] ~ $ gnutar --version
tar (GNU tar) 1.13

Copyright (C) 1988, 92,93,94,95,96,97,98, 1999 Free Software 
Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is 
NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR 
PURPOSE.

Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.
[pier@bubbles] ~ $


Pier


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Re: Jasper 2 Question

2002-09-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli

You can use some tea... http://opensource.go.com/ :-)

Pier


On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 10:33 PM, Lenny Karpel wrote:

 I use IntelliJ's IDEA product for Tomcat relared development .. I 
 noted the
 following statement in thier bugs mailing list with regards to 
 debugging JSP
 from thier IDE:


 As for Tomcat 4.1.x support, I'm afraid we are out-of-luck here. 
 Tomcat
 4.0.4 used to generate useful comments in the servlet code, that 
 allowed the
 integration plugin to map jsp line numbers to servlet line numbers. 
 But from
 the new version of Tomcat (Jasper2 in particular), this functionality 
 is
 missing. At least I haven't been able to find anything to enable 
 comment
 generation, and nobody from Tomcat user-list answered my question about
 this.



 Is this really true ?? Will this be fixed ??



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Re: Small code contribution

2002-09-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Vaughn Bilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I apologize in advance if I'm not following proper protocols for this
 submission, but I'm new at this. I have created a patch against Tomcat
 4.1.10 which adds a custom tag and associated servlet to the Tomcat
 admin context. The tag, designed to replace a text field expecting a
 file/directory path entry, creates a text field and button combination
 on the page. Clicking the button opens up a popup window allowing the
 user to navigate the file system and select a file/directory. Clicking
 Okay closes the popup window and places the selected path in the text
 field. It's been tested under RedHat 7.2 and Windows 2000. I find this
 feature useful, and I would like to make the patch available to whoever
 would like to use it, but I'm not sure how to go about doing this.

I hope this doesn't browse the file system on the server, thru servlet
and/or JSP calls or something like that, because if so -1 for security
reasons.

Pier


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Re: Tomcat not scaling very well...

2002-09-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Pat Schaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all --
 
 I'm risking getting scolded for using the wrong list for this, but the
 tomcat-user list was totally useless in solving this problem.
 
 The problem is on Tomcat 4.0.3 Standalone on Linux.  I am managing this
 machine for my university's CS department, so we are using the security
 manager to keep students out of each others' files (so one context cannot
 FileInputStream() files in another context).
 
 We have contexts for each user for the security manager, and so that we
 can override the location of webapp directories, log files, etc.  Note
 that students do not have logins on this machine; their Tomcat-related
 files are exported to other machines.
 
 The server starts up correctly (./startup.sh -security) and deploys and
 serves the webapps fine.  But here's the problem: when a user decides to
 make a new jsp file, Tomcat cannot compile or process that new file.
 The old files in the directory still display properly; however Tomcat
 gives a Permission Denied error for the new file citing the working
 directory version of file in question.
 
 - error message:
 /usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.3/work/localhost/user/tomcat/webapps/myFiles/gra
 derC$jsp.java
 (Permission denied)
 
 I think that the machine is running out of file handles to open any
 new files.  Looking in the /proc/[pid]/fd directory shows that each of
 500 threads is opening each of the 250 user log files in addition to the
 normal files/pipes/sockets it must open.
 
 Here's some site-specific config info that will be useful.
 Tomcat version: 4.0.3 Standalone from binary
 There are about 250 contexts that get loaded when the server starts.  A
 `ps aux` listing shows about 500 processes associated with Tomcat
 running.  The machine is a P3-800 with 512 MB of memory, and does not
 have any other heavy services running on it, so Tomcat has full run of
 the box.  
 
 Does anyone have experience setting up a system with this many
 contexts?  What can I do?  I realize it's probably an extension of what
 Tomcat is supposed to be used for with all the different contexts, but
 there must be a way!  Any help is appreciated.  And sorry for the lengthy
 message.

Please do mind that usually VMs (at least Sun's) are borked when using
something more that 2.5k file descriptors, so, I don't think you'll actually
manage to have 500 contexts in one single VM process...

The 500 processes you are seeing are Linux threads (damn Linux), and those
are roughly allright, I believe you use something like autoreload for each
context, therefore, you'll have one thread per context just doing basically
nothing... I've got some experience with more than 500 threads per VM on
Linux, but we had to switch OS because context switching was overkilling.

If you think that increasing the number of file descriptors might help, you
can always use ulimit -n  where  is the number of FDs each process
(and all associated threads) can open (therefore, that's the MAX value for
all you 500 threads reported by PS ALL TOGETHER).

One thing to check is also the output of lsof, gives you some very good
insight of what's going on...

My recommendation is to stop using autoreload, and use IBM's VM because for
what I can remember, it handles more file descriptors better than Sun's...

Pier


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Re: 4.1.10 tarball is borked.

2002-09-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 07:22:43PM -0700, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
 
 Pier, you need to use GNU tar. *BSD* tar sucks balls.
 
 Er, you mean perhaps that BSD tar doesn't yet support the
 non-standard GNU extensions?

Nope, it doesn't... I'm thinking whether we should package it up with a
standard TAR or the GNU extended version of it... Bah...

Pier  


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4.1.10 tarball is borked.

2002-09-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Whoever packaged the tar gzip distribution didn't check that it was actually
_packaged_ properly...

I get a few gazillion broken files (noticeably with some beautiful
././@LongLink entries), and with all file names longer than 100 or
something characters foobared up... (like:
jakarta-tomcat-4.1.10/webapps/tomcat-docs/servletapi/javax/servlet/ServletCo
ntextAttributeEvent.html100644)

Plus, at the end, I s

tar: Invalid header, starting valid header search.
tar: End of archive volume 1 reached

And thank god that this is supposed to be a _release_ release... (of course
no errors in the .zip distribution, remember that WinZip doesn't friggin
built correct TAR archives)...

Pier


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Re: 4.1.10 tarball is borked.

2002-09-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:27:31 +0100
 From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 4.1.10 tarball is borked.
 
 Whoever packaged the tar gzip distribution didn't check that it was actually
 _packaged_ properly...
 
 
 Which file did you try?  I just downloaded jakarta-tomcat-4.1.10.tar.gz
 (dated 30-Aug-2002 06:38) and it worked fine on RedHat 7.2.  You're not
 trying to use Solaris tar by any chance?  :-)

No


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Re: 4.1.10 tarball is borked.

2002-09-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:27:31 +0100
 From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 4.1.10 tarball is borked.
 
 Whoever packaged the tar gzip distribution didn't check that it was actually
 _packaged_ properly...
 
 
 Which file did you try?  I just downloaded jakarta-tomcat-4.1.10.tar.gz
 (dated 30-Aug-2002 06:38) and it worked fine on RedHat 7.2.  You're not
 trying to use Solaris tar by any chance?  :-)
 
 No

Hit return too fast... Doesn't look good with BSD tar (NetBSD and MacOS/X)
at all... Older distributions worked fine... Maybe someone changed the way
in which the tarballs are built? GNU tar works.

Pier


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Re: [PATCH] for bug#12049: symlinked directories, jsp pages arenot served

2002-09-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 13/9/02 1:14, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This bug is kind of annoying when there are lots of pages
 shared across multiple clients. The common practice we
 use on Tomcat 4.0.2 is to build symbolic links under each
 client that points to a centralized place to avoid file
 copying on deployment.
 
 With the new code in 4.1, the path check below prevents
 any symlinked pages from being served. I would like to
 have it removed. However, with these two lines removed,
 the code essentially retroback to 4.0.2 version with
 very minor changes.
 
 Obviously, those lines are for security reasons.
 
 -1 for the patch (at best, the check will be made optional).

Hmm... I'm wondering what are the problems if that check is not performed...
I don't see major concerns in allowing symlinked files or directories...

Also, few lines below, the check should be done for OS/X as well, given that
the file system is case insensitive, and for Unix operating systems if they
mount network shared volumes in case those are case unsensitive (SMB with
case insensitive FS on the other side, that kinda stuff)...

Pier


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FW: [NAGOYA.APACHE.ORG] RSYNC Output

2002-09-06 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Therewego... Folks, when you change a release from TEST to FINAL, please,
don't move files around... Use symlinks, but don't use neither mv nor
cp...

Yesterday's promotion of tomcat 4.1.10 from test to release overkilled
the mirrors with a good 43 megabytes of downloads completely useless, and
which costed I don't know how much (but a lot) to Collab.NET which is kindly
paying for bandwidth!

Pier

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 Date: 6 Sep 2002 12:00:31 -
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 Subject: [NAGOYA.APACHE.ORG] RSYNC Output
 
 
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Fwd: Tomcat 4.03 / 4.04 source download incorrect.

2002-08-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Not acked

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Lukas Hazlehurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed Aug 14, 2002  01:05:07 Europe/London
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Tomcat 4.03  / 4.04 source download incorrect.

 Hello,
  
 Just thought i'd mention that the link 
 onhttp://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.html to the source 
 download for tomcat 4.03 is dead and (i'm guessing) needs to be 
 changed to 4.04. The link works fine if you change the url to 
 ...release/v4.0.4/src/
  
 You guys do an amazing job btw.
  
 Lukas
 Sofnology Ltd.
  


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Fwd: Minor bug in Tomcat docs

2002-08-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Not acked.

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Asuja Andreas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri Aug 16, 2002  09:09:44 Europe/London
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Minor bug in Tomcat docs

 Hi!
  
 On page
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/deployment.html
 Under heading Shared Library Files
 it says:
 $CATALINA_HOME/shared/lib - JAR files placed here are visible to all 
 web applications, but not to internal Tomcat code. This is the right 
 place for shared libraries that are specific to your application.
  
 But on page
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/class-loader-howto.html
 Under heading Class Loader Definitions = Shared
 Is said:
 All unpacked classes and resources in $CATALINA_HOME/shared/classes, 
 as well as classes and resources in JAR files under 
 $CATALINA_HOME/lib, are made visible through this class loader.
  
 The latter seems to be correct, but the former isn't true as Tomcat 
 doesn't read libraries from $CATALINA_HOME/shared/lib.
  
 Yours,
 Andreas
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 Fujitsu Invia, Finland
 Tel +358 10 599 4167  Fax +358 9 424651044
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://invia.fujitsu.com/
  


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Fwd: Broken link

2002-08-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Not acked

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Jørgen Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002  14:17:23 Europe/London
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Broken link

 On http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.html  there is a link to  
 Tomcat 4.0.2 srcs  
 (http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.3/ 
 src/) that appears to be broken?

 Regards
 -- 
 /jørgen nørgaard
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: +45 3332 5770



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Re: [5.0] [VOTE] Release numbering scheme and test releases

2002-08-13 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ballot
 +1 [X] Tomcat 5 should use Tomcat 4.1 version numbering scheme and
release management
 -1 [ ] Tomcat 5 should use something else (to be decided later)
 /ballot

No comment.

 ballot
 +1 [ ] Start releasing milestones for Tomcat 5.0 on a regular basis soon
 -1 [X] No, later
 /ballot

Get 4.1 out of the door first.

Pier


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Re: Diffie Hellman

2002-08-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 does Tomcat support the Diffie-Hellman Key Agreement Method, when it is ssl
 enabled ?
 If not is it possible to make Tomcat-ssl use Diffie-Helman instead then RSA,
 so that Tomcat does not need a certificate when started in ssl mode ?

I believe it depends on JSSI to do the cypher negotiation.

Pier


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Re: HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11

2002-08-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Ed Borkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 # Please report this error at
 # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi

Can't you read what you post?


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Re: webapp/apr cvs tags?

2002-07-31 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Punky Tse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Neil,
 
 I will try tonight if I encounter the same problem.  BTW, if you can
 choose, why not move to httpd 2.0?  At least Pier and me support it! ;-)

That's for sure! :) Apache 2.0 rocks :)

Pier


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Re: webapp/apr cvs tags?

2002-07-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli

The latest CVS head works AFAIK... I can't see anywhere in the code where
apr_thread_mutex_lock is actually used anywhere... It might have something
to do with the atomic code, but, hmmm...

Anyhow that should go away with the use of a new APR functionality called
resource list on which we are working on... Few days, maybe a couple of
weeks.

Pier

Neil Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to build mod_webapp for apache 1.3.26.  I grabbed webapp and
 apr from cvs.apache.org.  it seems to build fine:
 
 # ./configure --with-apr=../apr/ --with-apxs
 (configure output)
 # make
 (make output)
 Coonfiguration details:
 
 module version:  mod_webapp/1.2.0-dev
 httpd version:   Apache/1.3.26 (Unix)
 host machine/os: i686-pc-linux-gnu
 cration date:Tue Jul 30 04:58:30 PDT 2002
 
 All done...
 
 # cp apache-1.3/mod_webapp.so /etc/apache/modules
 # /usr/sbin/apache
 Syntax error on line 63 of /etc/apache/conf/apache.conf:
 Cannot load /etc/apache/modules/mod_webapp.so into server:
 /etc/apache/modules/mod_webapp.so: undefined symbol: apr_thread_mutex_lock
 
 
 I've tried mod_webapp 1.0.1 with similar results.  is this a known
 issue?   is there a 1.1 branch of webapp that I can try?  or another
 version of apr?
 
 thanks,
 neil
 
 
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Re: [Fwd: webapp/apr cvs tags?]

2002-07-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Neil Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 using this version of apr, I was able to build and use mod_webapp.so
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/webapp/release/v1.2
 .0/src/apr_APACHE_2_0_35.tar.gz
 
 I searched nagoya.apache.org for a bug on this, but came up empty
 handed.  I'm not very knowledgable about apr/apx, but I'm happy to
 provide more info to anyone who might want it.

Yes, that makes sense... The 2.0.35 tag wasn't relying on thread mutexes for
atomic under linux... This is definitely an APR bug (if threads are
disabled, the atomic code should just not use it)...

Will report it.

Pier


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Re: webapp/apr cvs tags?

2002-07-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Neil Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 are you looking at the apache code, apr, or mod_webapp?

All the three codebases (given my involvement lately - Pier is moving to
HTTPD and APR :)

 all versions of mod_webapp compile fine with the trunk of apr, but none will
 be loaded with apache 1.3.26.

Yes, indeed. This is because the final stage of linking, since you're
building a module, ignores symbols which are not found, relying on the fact
that someone has loaded them before Now, when we compile mod_webapp we
specifically disallow threads, therefore excluding thread mutexes as well,
and since the latest atomic code relies on them, well, the linker doesn't
complain as it assumes it'll be loaded before our module.

 compiling with apr_APACHE_2_0_35.tar.gz, the module
 loads fine and runs fine.  so it seems to me the problem is in the apr
 trunk...  but I'm don't really know enough to say for sure.

2.0.35 was rolled before the atomic code changes... It definitely is a bug
in APR's dependancies processing...

Pier


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Re: [OT] Leaving Sun

2002-07-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Warning: Off topic !
 
 I'd like to post a quick notice about my current job situation.
 As of today, I am no longer an employee of Sun Microsystems, and I am
 relocating in France.

Welcome to the family of the now-Europeanized ex-Sun employees... Hope it
works as it worked out for me! :)

Pier


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Re: Connectors on MacOS X

2002-07-23 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Tobias Wunden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3) Provide Information on dlopen

Build on top of APR and that problem goes away. That's why APR is the way to
go, right?

Pier

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FW: Jakarta-tomcat page requires update

2002-07-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Not acked...

Pier

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on this page
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.html

Under Release Builds,

The link to Tomcat 4.0.3 is broken.
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.3/src/

and it should be to Tomcat 4.0.4
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.4/src

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Split the repo's

2002-07-18 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Patrick Luby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oops. The javax.servlet.jsp.* packages have been in jakarta-servlet-4
 for a long time.
 
 In any case, I tried seeing if this issue could be solved by merely
 moving the javax.servlet.jsp.* packages over to the
 jakarta-tomcat-jasper repository. Unfortunately, that breaks the
 jakarta-taglibs code that jakarta-tomcat-jasper depend on. I suspect
 that there are other projects that may expect the javax.servlet.jsp.*
 package to be in servlet.jar as well. :(
 
 So, even though I don't like the current structure and I think it would
 be cleaner to have the javax.servlet.jsp.* packages separated from the
 javax.servlet.* packages, separating them may cause a lot of pain for
 others who have come to depend on the current structure. I feel that I
 should take this into my vote and, hence, I am changing my vote to:

In this case, it's not our problem... They should fix their stuff...

Pier


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Split the repo's

2002-07-18 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jakarta-apis/jsr154/src/java
 jakarta-apis/jsr152/src/java

+1 

Pier

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