Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-02-02 Thread garym
I travel a lot. My wife is addicted to listening to NPR in the morning, NPR, certain siriusXM news stations, and podcasts in the early evening. She picks up the controller out of the dock, chooses a favorite, and it all just comes on (the amp is audio-sensing auto on). In the many years we've

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-02-01 Thread gw43
Stratmangler wrote: It appears that the OP is simply having a snipe at Logitech, which is something they've done on the wrong forum. Sadly some folk have difficulty dealing with sophisticated devices. The Sonos is something that requires less understanding to operate, so I'm sure the OP

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-02-01 Thread johnas
@gw43 Presumably you know that Logitech has abandoned Squeezebox. Further as a member of these forums you presumably know that this is a user forum. Thus what kind of a reaction did you expect by complaining to users here that you couldn't work the Touch?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-02-01 Thread dasmueller
Sorry your Squeezebox experience was less than what you wanted it to be. Hopefully Sonos will provide what you want. The desire to appear to be tech savvy or requiring it to use something is a unique mindset from my perspective, although I am sure there are those to whom that does hold an

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-02-01 Thread Stratmangler
gw43 wrote: I'll take your points in order. I'm not having a snipe at Logitech - when the Touch worked it was great. What I came home from work and wanted to listen to something to something from my collection and I turned it on, it was great. What wasn't great was the (sadly frequent)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-02-01 Thread aubuti
gw43 wrote: What wasn't great was the (sadly frequent) times when I had to spend 20-30 minutes fannying* about with the software to get it working. What wasn't great was on my wife's days off her calling me at work to say she couldn't get internet radio working. snip Sophisticated devices

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-21 Thread toby10
Cut-Throat wrote: . *-What will happen if we use XP after cut off date? ''Even if you have an unsupported version of Windows XP or Windows Vista without any service packs, Windows will continue to start and run as usual,'' says MS. -* I would be perfectly content if MOG

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-21 Thread aubuti
I imagine other MOG subscribers received this email today from Ian C Rogers, Beats Music CEO iancrogers at beatsmusic dot com. I'm not a fan of the Beats Dr Dre headphones, but it sounds as if the streaming service could be a good product. It's interesting to me that they put so much emphasis

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-21 Thread pippin
Hm, call me a cynic, but that human curated music part is the one I like the least, it sounds like we will try to bring the old 'record companies buy their way to user's ears' business model back to the modern age' I do listen to music curated by actual humans I know and trust - my friends with

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-21 Thread Ikabob
Ikabob wrote: In my opinion, i do not think that the new Beats service will just dump MOG subscribers and leave them high and dry. I just do not think that a new service that is trying to establish respect and trust with new subscribers would want to dump loyal long time existing MOG

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Herger
Whoops! There goes all my playlists. Guess I was too optimistic about Beats. I ,for one, am disappointed. Sill have Rhapsody though. Maybe some kind soul will pick up this need and create a tool to convert playlists between services. I've seen this for Deezer - Spotify before. It should be

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread Ikabob
In my opinion, i do not think that the new Beats service will just dump MOG subscribers and leave them high and dry. I just do not think that a new service that is trying to establish respect and trust with new subscribers would want to dump loyal long time existing MOG subscribers. That would

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread toby10
Cut-Throat wrote: . Just like Windows has not pulled the Plug on XPThey keep sending updates. For a few more months, ending in April 2014. http://english.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/contentView.do?contentId=15976895channelId=-1073865029programId=14369935

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread Cut-Throat
toby10 wrote: For a few more months, ending in April 2014. http://english.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/contentView.do?contentId=15976895channelId=-1073865029programId=14369935 Sure, but. -WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE USE XP AFTER CUT OFF DATE? ''EVEN IF YOU HAVE AN

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread jimbobvfr400
Well the fact that beats bought MOG to be able to launch a streaming service says to me there's likely to be at least a few common parts at least in the background. Perhaps it may even be as simple as a rebranding exercise with existing access still working. Complete speculation on my part

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread aubuti
Ikabob wrote: In my opinion, i do not think that the new Beats service will just dump MOG subscribers and leave them high and dry. I don't think Beats will just dump MOG subscribers either -- that would make no sense. But continuing MOG services is not the same thing as continuing MOG services

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread garym
aubuti wrote: I don't think Beats will just dump MOG subscribers either -- that would make no sense. But continuing MOG services is not the same thing as continuing MOG services in a SB-compatible way. I strongly suspect that SB users are a small minority of MOG subscribers. At some time

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread Cut-Throat
I thought I would ask Beats Audio myself, so I e-mailed them and asked about the Squeezebox integration. *-Hey Kevin, Thanks for following up. I'll pass on your feedback to our product team. Please know that we would love to develop a Squeezebox integration, it's just a matter of prioritizing

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-20 Thread aubuti
Cut-Throat wrote: I thought I would ask Beats Audio myself, so I e-mailed them and asked about the Squeezebox integration. *-Hey Kevin, Thanks for following up. I'll pass on your feedback to our product team. Please know that we would love to develop a Squeezebox integration, it's just a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread Cut-Throat
aubuti wrote: MOG support could well become a moot point very soon on both platforms. MOG has been acquired by Beats Music, and Beats Music has not been very clear about their plans for the transition. I read something in another thread about a cut-over on January 21, but without any details

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread aubuti
Cut-Throat wrote: I think alienating MOG/SB Touch Users would not be part of the plans of Beats Audio.snip Cut-Throat wrote: The thing that worries me, is that the current SB Touch Pluggin would fail to operate under the new MOG. That's exactly my point. Beats doesn't have to be out to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread Cut-Throat
aubuti wrote: snip That's exactly my point. Beats doesn't have to be out to alienate SB users deliberately. But it's quite likely that their new service will have a different API, and Logitech is no longer positioned to adapt. Sure, Beats wants partners (esp live partners like ATT), but

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread garym
Cut-Throat wrote: as you probably know there are a lot of folks developing all kinds of Pluggins for the SB Touch. but they will still require an open API, which beats may or may not provide. I don't even think the current MOG provides an open API (thus, we need mysb.com and official app for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread johnas
Looks like Sonos is ready for the Beats change over. Logitech? https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonos/status/422135202492596224/photo/1/large?screen_name=Sonos#!/Sonos/status/422135202492596224/photo/1/large?screen_name=Sonos

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread Cut-Throat
garym wrote: but they will still require an open API, which beats may or may not provide. I don't even think the current MOG provides an open API (thus, we need mysb.com and official app for it to work). We'll see, won't we? There are other solutions, if the Touch won't work anymore.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread Cut-Throat
Thinking about the Beat Audio launch scheduled this month. It would not be a very good launch plan to render MOG useless for all Squeezebox Touch users. I am sure that they are aware that they have quite a few Monthly Subscriptions from Squeezebox Touch users. If you think about it, this would be

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread garym
Cut-Throat wrote: We'll see, won't we? There are other solutions, if the Touch won't work anymore. Yep, tons of reasonable solutions for streaming from services or internet radio. Fewer *flexible* solutions for our own music collections that does all that SB does. *Location 1:*

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread aubuti
Cut-Throat wrote: Thinking about the Beat Audio launch scheduled this month. It would not be a very good launch plan to render MOG useless for all Squeezebox Touch users. I am sure that they are aware that they have quite a few Monthly Subscriptions from Squeezebox Touch users. If you think

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-19 Thread Cut-Throat
aubuti wrote: How much do you wanna bet? Only kidding, but sorry, I bet the number of monthly subscriptions from SB users (and it can be any SB, no reason it has to be a Touch) is pretty small in the Beats business plan scheme of things. Of course, I don't have the numbers to back that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-18 Thread HeadBanger
If you are buying a player just for Spotify (or mainly for) then I would agree Logitech and Spotify made a complete hash of it. I tried it and Spotify constantly crashed my Touch and the user interface is pretty damn rubbish. You must get better results with Triode's plug in as there seems to be

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-18 Thread Stratmangler
I've had no stability issues running Spotify or anything else I wanted to use with the 2 Touches and Zyxel NSA310 (running LMS). One Touch is on ethernet, the other wireless, and the NSA310 is connected via ethernet. It appears that the OP is simply having a snipe at Logitech, which is something

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-18 Thread jimzak
I can't imagine losing the flexibility and extensibility (is that a word?) of SB, especially with all the work going on with CommunitySqueeze. I love to experiment and tune; I believe that would be impossible in the Sonos ecosystem. I know Sonos has a support forum, but I cannot imagine a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-18 Thread aubuti
Cut-Throat wrote: If Sonos cannot stream MOG, it would be a non-starter for me!.. MOG is a higher quality streaming service than Spotify. It is integrated perfectly into the Squeezebox Touch that I can control with my Laptop. If Sonos can do this, I might look at it. Otherwise, it

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-17 Thread Cut-Throat
gw43 wrote: After so much hassle over the years with the software, drop-outs (even using ethernet), Spotify implementation being a nightmare I took the plunge and sold my Touch and got a Sonos. I actually got more on eBay for the Touch than I paid, and the Sonos seems so much more

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-16 Thread 60milesmile
gw43 wrote: After so much hassle over the years with the software, drop-outs (even using ethernet), Spotify implementation being a nightmare I took the plunge and sold my Touch and got a Sonos. I actually got more on eBay for the Touch than I paid, and the Sonos seems so much more

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-16 Thread pippin
There's certainly a lot of arguments you can make for Squeezebox vs. Sonos but Spotify integration really isn't one of them. Spotify integration in Sonos is pretty much exactly the same as on the Squeezebox, it even has the same issues (Track not available in your country) --- learn more about

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-16 Thread GeeJay
If my needs were simple like yours, I'd likely reach a similar conclusion. Until someone else comes out with software that does as many things as SB, however, I'm hanging on to mine. 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-16 Thread johnas
pippin wrote: There's certainly a lot of arguments you can make for Squeezebox vs. Sonos but Spotify integration really isn't one of them. Spotify integration in Sonos is pretty much exactly the same as on the Squeezebox, it even has the same issues (Track not available in your country)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-15 Thread Apesbrain
If I were starting over, I'd be tempted by Sonos: - very nice hardware - isolated mesh network - it's the current it thing. That said, our obsolete Squeezebox still has a lot going for it: - free server, player and controller software - cheap Android/linux hardware players - hi-res and large

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-15 Thread DJanGo
gw43 wrote: sold my Touch and got a Sonos. So Goodbye and happy days with your Badbuy gw43 wrote: So, goodbye! It's been emotional! Do you want us to spend you a tissue ? Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Goodbye!

2014-01-15 Thread dasmueller
Sorry you did not have a better experience. My Touch x2 work quite well for me thanks Logitech. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: