Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] External dac?
I think so. And personally I avoid the word "better" when comparing, because that's not what I actually mean anyway. I might prefer one over the other, but that's a preference, it's not a measured analysis... I am totally sold on the in-some-circles-uncomfortable fact that the digital data is immutable and reproducibly perfect, but the analogue domain is still a mess of options and tweaks that do make small differences, some of which you might like, some you might not. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113922 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] External dac?
Zombie wrote: > After the dust of the expectancy bias settled I heard no difference > between the SBT+Qutest and SBT+Quad USB DAC. > Tonight I will make one SBT stock and compare it to SBT+Qutest. I had a Chord Hugo (1) on loan for a while and IMO it sounded noticeably sparklier than my then Naim Supernait built-in DAC, which also sounded slightly murkier and weightier than the Mytek DAC I wound up actually buying afterwards and which I still have (a very small difference that one, and one that may not survive longer comparison, presumably because they both were based off the same ESS DAC chipset). I think the Hugo measures a lot better stereo separation than the Supernait dac at high frequency for a start, so that's not just my brain tricking me into hearing things. So there you go ; DACs do seem to sound different. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113922 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch misses first beat
Weird because my DACs all remain running and locked because the SBT keeps spdif output running at the last used clock rate until the next track is required, outputting digital zero for the duration. Are you switching sample rate between tracks? -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110831 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Skipping a hires (96-24) song to a regular (44-16) chops off beginning of 2nd track
This is not uncommon, some DACs take an age to sync (my supernait DAC was one of them). My marantz a/v amp on the other hand will switch and lock between 16/44 and full blown dts-hd master streams before you've noticed it's done so.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110607 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using both digital and analog outs on Touch simultaneously
It's only as identical if it has the same output level as your dac, but it's the same signal and it scales the same as the volume is changed up or down. - unless you're using the EDO plugin which enables only the digital output. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110168 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
bpa wrote: > The things about AIFF is that it is PCM - uncompressed just different > byte order to WAV. So swap the bytes and then pass straight to DAC. So > in theory there is no processing difference between files or even > between passages in a file. That is why theories about metadata were put > up and also whether LMS got confused about something and added some > extra processing even how file was stored on disk (very fragmented). > Nothing definitive was found.Yes I came to the conclusion it has to be data > pattern dependant. As in, it's one of the aiff standards, but.. which one? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Interchange_File_Format I have only dipped into this thread, I realise folks have worked through a lot of stuff already. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
bpa wrote: > Late to the party. We went through lots of stuff and never figured out > why this one AIFF file behaved differently to the rest.I think I was meaning > the past tense. Yes, I got that gist. Presumably its a super special extra hard to decode aiff. Or that particular sequence of ones and zeros is more prone to noise related errors than any other.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
bpa wrote: > I think the OP should at least check it out thge possibility by enabling > logging player.source to INFO and see if LMS does something strange to > the file. > > However - why would affect just one file amongst other similarly encoded > files ?We're getting pretty desperate here...! -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
sgmlaw wrote: > These WAV bandwidth and storage arguments are so 2003. Anyone having an > issue moving a WAV stream around wirelessly in 2019 needs to get a new > router. > > Most of these audio file formats and their resulting streams are a > trickle compared to even a 1080i file video stream, let alone a 4k one. > > Any touch should have no problems handling up to 96/24 on a modern > wireless connection, even on a G signal. A near perfect connection is > needed if you are going to pass a 192/24 signal through one, but it is > very do-able. > > But 9000k is approaching ridiculous for any audio stream. If that is > happening, transcode that down to something under 4000k.Aiff is aiff. It's > uncompressed, so if it's 9000kbits then that's how much it is. It's also actually *higher* bitrate than the 1080p stream you get from Netflix AND that has an embedded 5.1 soundtrack... Still we don't have any inkling as to why *this* file buffers and others of the same resolution sample rate and (presumably) bitrate do not. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
Is the file being transcoded by lms? Delays during transcoding will also manifest as client buffering, iirc. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
Also. You could always just downsample it to 16/44 and be done with it.. :) -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
Yes I'm aware of aiff. It was the default audio file format on my SGI O2 ... The implication of what's being discussed is that there is a *data* dependency for this file. Something, very odd, about the audio data itself is causing the Touch to require buffering whether it's played as aiff (i.e. stupendous bitrate) or even flac (half the bitrate). Random thoughts but does it still have an issue when MP3 encoded...?? I do recall the occasional bug where hardware buses can misinterpret valid data streams, throw a bogus CRC error and jump into error recovery code, which can delay things immensely. I doubt that's what's happening here but it's a demonstration of the odd things that *can* happen.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering during playback of one 192 file
Flac encoders have changed over the years (though the files themselves are supposed to be the same format). Presumably the file plays fine if you decode it to wav/aiff and then re- encode to flac using a known encoder? In general no differences in compression methodology should result in a flac file that's "harder" to decompress. You could also login to the touch while it's decoding the stream and see if it's forced to transcode because of some weird data in the stream perhaps. The touch doesn't have much CPU power. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109917 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help with SBT remote apps
The devices don't accept direct commands it has to come either from a local LMS or the mysqueezebox.com one. What's a smart playlist...? I did mention that you can enable lms on the Touch from its user interface by the way if you wanted to use the squeezer app. As for local music from iPod, the one and only thing lacking from my own LMS library is the ability to feed in an audio stream via e.g. Bluetooth from my phone.. but as it happens you can do that if you set it all up.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help with SBT remote apps
There is no LMS on the internet. You might get away with using the Touch built-in LMS if you're only interested in internet radio. The touch doesn't have a lot of grunt but it should be ok the enable that. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Battery power for Touch - suitable power pack?
castalla wrote: > Nice ... but not BT & won't get past the family finance director!There is a > BT version too, as you no doubt know. Worth the money! -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109285 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Battery power for Touch - suitable power pack?
I got some over ear (wired) sennheiser momentum ii and suspect they can handle whatever you throw at them. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109285 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Battery power for Touch - suitable power pack?
Seems to be another thread on this at the moment too. Short answer is no. Most of the usb power packs either don't support power pass-through or they momentarily drop power output when the input power changes state, making them perfectly legit chargers for batteries, but terrible UPSs. They don't quote this behaviour in any docs so you'd have to buy 20 and maybe find one chipset that works There's an open source ups project that is attempting to freshen up ups design. After all 90% of home UPS designs still use crappy lead acid batteries and pretty old tech control systems. The market has been stagnant for two decades. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109285 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Alternative software to the embedded LMS
Regardless of the question of the (frankly, no-brainer) of adding a Raspberry Pi LMS server (you could even dangle a £10 Pi Zero W off the USB out of the touch using it just as a power supply!), there are plugins that will allow you to have separate library views for multiple users. Simple Library Views is one, works easily enough you place empty files with a specifically formatted filename that acts as a "tag" in each folder that contains music. If you're smart enough to sync your music the way you currently do you can add tag files too. None of this will work on the built in SBT instance of LMS, nothing will. I'm frankly amazed how many threads are popping up of late from people attempting to use it! -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109094 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using external USB hard drive w/ Touch
Jefffrye wrote: > So I thought I would rip my CD collection onto a 1TB hard drive and run > it into my squeezbox touch via the usb connection. Seemed logical. I > tried one CD and am unable to access the hard drive to find the music. > When I plug the hard drive in the squeeze box says it is attaching the > device. I'm missing something. It is an un-powered hard drive. I can > stream from my PC using LMS but I want the hard drive to me hard wired. > So I'm here asking the experts again. How do I do this? What works best? > Thanks in advance. JeffIf it's a power problem you can fix it with a powered > hub, if it's a filesystem problem you'll have to remember you are formatting it for use on an embedded Linux kernel that's now VERY old and low powered so NTFS won't work for a start. But just, don't. You will decide you've wasted your time. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109071 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Linear Power Supplies
Very weird. It shouldn't be quieter unless it's utterly underpowered and the voltage drops through the floor under load. And I would wager the SBT processor and screen uses a heck of a lot more power than the audio output stage. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82648 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How does the Touch sync the system time?
I guess you'll find out soon enough.. I think it takes time from LMS though. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108975 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poorer sound Q via Wifi from Squeeze Server than Deezer streaming direct on iPhone
I am not a slave to Cult of Jobs, so no iPeng for me... In fact none of my consumer products are prefixed with an "i".. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108931 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poorer sound Q via Wifi from Squeeze Server than Deezer streaming direct on iPhone
Latest gen Bluetooth apt-x is approx 400 Mbit iirc, which although still lossy compressed is capable of being more or less transparent to the average user. Is LMS configured to limit bitrate to your phone? Is LMS configured to apply replaygain to your phone? Is iPeng a full fledged squeeze client (I'm not familiar with it). And deezer.. yes it's lossy compressed I believe, so what bitrate are you getting from them and are they applying any replaygain or other sound shaping and what masters are they using? Flesh out your description of "harsh" and "smooth"... It's hard to know what that means in sq terms.. most people tend towards thinking smooth is good, but that can just mean the treble is recessed.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108931 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poorer sound Q via Wifi from Squeeze Server than Deezer streaming direct on iPhone
So you're comparing self-ripped flac files to a streamed service? How are you playing to the iPhone from LMS? -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108931 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Other options to SBT..??
Other manufacturers are finally getting that music needs to be delivered this way now. Panasonic, Yamaha, a few others are doing multiroom sound systems now. Have to say I haven't tried any of them, I have a vast stockpile of SBTs, SBRs, two SBReceivers and enough raspberry Pis to mine bitcoin on.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108664 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSD drive not detected?
*this century*? Not this decade though. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107347 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSD drive not detected?
Seems to be an echo around here.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107347 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB external HD
kidstypike wrote: > I don't think the problem is the HDD's speed, it's the proccessing power > of the the Touch that's the bottle-neck. SSD drives weren't commonplace > when I bought my Touch so haven't tried one, I don't know if there'd be > any advantage. > > Yes, It's great when it works, but it doesn't work great all that often. > :(Processor power and available RAM. There's hardly any ram, that's the biggest issue wet stability. It's also stuck with an ancient version of LMS. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108643 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB external HD
Koelboy wrote: > I would think that connecting a dedicated 5V power supply to the 5V > input of my HDD is no different from connecting the same PS using a Y > cable (isn't that the same 5V circuit?) That would mean that it's > actually better to not use a HDD with a seperate PS? > > :SI think you're being obtuse now. No USB device that offers a choice of power inputs would be certified as a USB device if it allowed the multiple power lines to be bridged to each other under any circumstances. Have to say I've never seen a usb HDD with a 5v input though as all the portable drives generally run straight off the USB port and all the desktop drive ones run off 12V. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108643 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB external HD
Koelboy wrote: > I'm not really understanding how connecting the Touch to a powered hub > doesn't connect the power lines on the touch usb to an external PSU, but > I think it's also irrelevant when using an external DAC... as long a sit > doesn't hurt the Touch. Because it's designed not to, which is why I suggested it! It's still relevant. You mess with a devices power lines and it can interfere with WiFi or cause it to become unstable. Personally I'd consider it at best a nasty hack and even then i wouldn't consider a y cable unless I am taking two supplies from the *same* device. I would not consider bridging two separate power supplies with it. Particularly not on a several hundred pounds obsolete rare music player as one of them! Note that SSDs often spike to several times their rated power consumption during write operations or garbage collection. Consider yourself warned at what a bad idea I think this is.. ;) -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108643 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB external HD
Correct, functionally similar but a powered hub doesn't connect the power lines on the touch usb out to an external PSU, unlike most y-cables which are designed to allow drawing from two usb supplies simultaneously. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108643 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB external HD
You need to stop worrying about the disk spinning constantly, I doubt there's any way to discourage the embedded LMS from polling it often enough to keep it awake, and secondly you absolutely must buy a powered hub. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108643 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Henry Audio USB DAC
Check out the EDO plugin. Most USB DAC's can be made to work but unless someone has tested it it's your risk.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108569 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Replacement linear power supply options
Mnyb wrote: > No it wont hurt the Touch . > > In fact i ran one of mine with a 2A supply for a long time but i assumed > that if i did not use the USB or analog it did not matter muchYeah there > should be plenty of latitude in PSU capacity for a device like this. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108551 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing SD card with LMS as controller
I like the squeezer app for controlling LMS (android). Assuming all things are equal (the file *is* the same, the player settings are the same, you have identical volume levels all the way through the chain and no recompression happening) then there's no logical reason why it would sound different at all. The SBT even buffers more than 30s ahead even when playing from WiFi so WiFi isn't even active while you listen from the memory buffer. If it sounds repeatedly different then some setting is different. And remember to rule out your biased brain when listening.. humans are actually rubbish at being objective. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108353 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch ssh security updates
No, turn SSH off. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108158 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Presumably that's its own internal renderer. You sure it's not resampling? My touch outputs 192/176.4/96/88/48/44 at 24 bit no problem on the optical and coax. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
It does play them on mine, so is it possible that your DAC simply doesn't support that playback sample rate? -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
That should not happen, so I would suggest your SBT is faulty. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Simple answer is there is only one EDO plugin. If your DAC doesn't work and still doesn't work with the "USB hub" hack then it's unlikely to ever work. The developers orphaned it a long time ago. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT & analog outs | No sound
Hmm, if EDO was mentioned during boot then that means it still booted the EDO kernel. You may need another reboot to eradicate it completely (and in fact I'm sure I've read there may be an issue with this). At least you are working again. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107931 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT & analog outs | No sound
Also make sure the volume is turned up.. ;) -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107931 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT & analog outs | No sound
EDO disables analogue out if you use a USB DAC (because the signal isn't sent to the built in DAC!). EDO settings are local to the SBT in the advanced settings menu. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107931 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] RME ADI-2 Pro DAC with EDO?
You have more patience than I! -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107834 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rebuffering on Touch playing 96 kHz 24 bit songs
(Yes the touch decodes 96/24 flac natively.) -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] RME ADI-2 Pro DAC with EDO?
And did you try a USB hub between the SBT and the DAC? This is the default answer for some DACs which don't like direct connect. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107834 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
markbrauer wrote: > > The problem for me is all my playlists are now displayed in one big > disorganized list. Even if I could up the limit of playlists to show > them all, it is impossible to find anything, especially when I con see > only a few at a time on the small Touch screen. I think the prospect of controlling the touch from its own screen is pretty scary for anyone, and is why god invented android tablets. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
markbrauer wrote: > drmatt > > Thanks Matt. You gave me an idea. I brought up the Select Digital Output > screen with the USB cable disconnected. The option to use the USB output > does not appear. Then I reconnected the cable and the option reappears. > This indicates to me that the Touch "sees" the DAC, so there is some > communication happening. The Question is, does the DAC see the Touch? > > () > If the problem really is the 5 volt circuit, Ronnie's suggestion of the > "Y" USB setup looks promising. But it does require adding another power > source to the mix, something I'd like to avoid in the long term. > > I have been using the coax and Toslink outputs. And the 7.7.5 server is > stable, so I am not musicless. But the USB does sound better and I miss > it. USB is a complex protocol, so if the touch "sees" the DAC, then the DAC *definitely* "sees" the touch. The question then most likely is about whether the touch sends the DAC a data format that it understands and can play. EDO can send up to 192k/24b data. Ignore the 5V thing, it's nothing to do with that. If USB works at all then there's 5V on the wire. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
markbrauer wrote: > So, I still think that somewhere in the process of firmware and EDO > installs, uninstalls, and reinstalls, the "bit" that controls the 5 volt > power on was switched to "off". If this is the case, a powered hub would > likely "fix" the problem. > You could prove this with a voltmeter or even just a hub.. (powered or otherwise). If a hub works at all, there's power on the bus. The trick is to remember the sequence of things you tried that resulted in the thing you did that fixed it... (The devil is in the *metadata*..) Can't you just switch to the optical or coax out in the meantime? -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Actually when driving a Chromecast audio powered by the SBT (don't ask me why I did this, but I did), I noted how bloody awful the analogue output on the USB bus is. Like others have said, really recommend a *powered* usb hub on the output before connection to anything even vaguely nice. :) -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My touch doesn't turn on
Indeed, iirc you can choose between "digital-only, 192k" and "Digi+analogue, 96k", even with the EDO installed. You then need to reboot the device again. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107694 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My touch doesn't turn on
Correct, For 192 khz support from the Squeezebox touch you need the EDO plugin installed and it's digital output only. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107694 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My touch doesn't turn on
EDO is a plugin, a kernel replacement only nothing more intrusive than that. You can simply remove it if you don't need it. I'm not aware of any issues with it (such as screen-off like you suggest), but then I leave my screen on as a clock.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107694 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My touch doesn't turn on
Unfortunately I doubt that repair is an option, there is no official support for it and parts are not easy to come by. Most people are hoarding working ones to protect against future failures. With some luck you will find it all lights up just fine with a strong power supply and it'll work for years. They are generally quite reliable. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107694 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Linear Power Supplies
I did read it correctly then -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82648 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Linear Power Supplies
Did I read that linked thread correctly? An external PSU on a SBT "improved the audio quality" when it's connected to an external DAC? -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82648 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch remote control
I can't find my remotes, they must be exceptionally clean.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now playing - image stuck
The player displays whatever the station advertises as its accompanying image, the SBT would likely be a victim of that. You'd at least need to state which station it is so someone else could check if the image makes sense. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107475 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connect SBT To Oppo UDP-203 Blu-ray Player
One signal, one cable. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107425 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connect SBT To Oppo UDP-203 Blu-ray Player
It would indeed be more normal for a BDR to have digital audio OUTs than ins. I found a reference to the connection on the rear being inputs, but if that isn't what it says in the manual then they are almost certainly outputs. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107425 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connect SBT To Oppo UDP-203 Blu-ray Player
Since when did a blu ray player have an digital INPUT? (And, you are using the external DAC in your AVR if you use an optical cable from.the SBT to it..) Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107425 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSD drive not detected?
Use an external DAC then it doesn't matter one jot what server you run it off or what you plug into the USB on the SBT. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107347 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSD drive not detected?
Format it fat32...? Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107347 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT Not connecting to network..
In other words, i am bang on the money. Your SBT is connected only to mysb.com and not to your local LMS library. Connect it to your local LMS library. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107241 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT Not connecting to network..
Is it not that it's just connected directly to the internet via mysqueezebox.com, and therefore is not addressing your local LMS library at all? -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107241 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT Not connecting to network..
It has to be on the same network segment as your LMS and have unrestricted access to it, i.e. no firewalls etc etc. Is it possible your router has changed its IP since the long downtime? -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107241 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Another Bit Perfect question
I don't know what the actual remaining bit depth is when i do it but i use a SBT analogue out as a pre-amp connected to a small tripath style class D amp. Normal use the volume slider sits around 30-35, and for fun it's more like 60%. Sounds fine in a non critical listening environment in both cases but I'll grant you that's not necessarily conclusive. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Another Bit Perfect question
I believe it's more like down to -48db or something like that, but yes I heard this is the case. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Another Bit Perfect question
And in my experience genuine SB hardware is much better at achieving good sync than the software solutions. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Chord DAC(mojo or maybe hugo) + SBT
Because it's got nothing to do with a squeezebox touch, per se, i would agree with you. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107144 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Chord DAC(mojo or maybe hugo) + SBT
No, i got the Mytek dsd 192 for a good price. They may still have a few in the Mytek online shop. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107144 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Chord DAC(mojo or maybe hugo) + SBT
But the difference is there. I tried the Hugo out and it's pretty lovely sounding. Fortunately it does sound like a genuine improvement over the SBT own analogue output. I say "fortunately" because it's rather expensive. I didn't keep it, however, as i felt it lacked bass solidity compared to some other choices on the market. I bought a Mytek instead which is a good blend of the two, imho. The SBT sounds a little disappointing by comparison, though return on investment is very small in this market.. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107144 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Anyone using Mojo with SBT?
I'm told the SBT implements a transparent digital volume control (I.e. no scaling artifacts) down to -48db when running into a 24 bit DAC, so you could in fact use the SBT digital volume with the mojo. But I use a preamp with analogue volume control. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106359 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] a/synchronous DACS... APPS
I am assuming the phrase "analogue input" refers to the coaxial digital link myself. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106770 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] a/synchronous DACS... APPS
Basically unless it's connected via USB2, the DAC is slaved to the SBT, using EDO or otherwise. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106770 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] a/synchronous DACS... APPS
Yeah the name "asynchronous" seems to usually refer to DACs that support the USB2 asynchronous audio driver, not the other type that just uses an independent clock, despite it being arguable that both are a type of asynchronous.. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106770 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] a/synchronous DACS... APPS
DACs often reclock, but they have to "tune" their internal clock source to take account any small variation between it and the incoming data rate. Unfortunately the act of using a clock that can be tuned tends to reduce its jitter performance somewhat so the ideal is asynchronous USB, whereby the DAC requests data from the player on its own timing rather than the player sending data on its own timing. I have a DAC that can do either and is capable of reclocking, but using its internal clock only results in pops and clicks as the data stream goes out of sync (buffer empty, or buffer full), so in reality it's not usable this way. I leave it synced to input data stream from the SBT and it works fine.. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106770 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Another Ethernet Connection Problem
Does it have a link light on your switch.? drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106603 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Man in a van wrote: > Well there is of course no guarentee that any usb dac will work with > EDO. > > Perhaps yours is one of those that only goes up to 7 and not 11 ;) > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UnnpylzUvFW3oi0ip5ghpuWFfDVcufKCn8k54uhqYKQ/edit#gid=0 > > Ronnie Yeah, I saw the sheet before going down this road but thought I would roll the dice for myself... It's still clicky with USB1, via a hub, using the test EDO-only kernel, and still doesn't come up as an option at all via USB2. I assume that means async is out of the question.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Man in a van wrote: > As a refresher I suggest a read of the first post by Triode of this > thread. > > There may be something to be gleaned. > > Ronnie. > > Also, if you update EDO to v9, Ralphy has made available some of the > alternative kernels which you may wish to try.:p Currently running "Linux SqueezeboxTouch 2.6.26.8-rt16-332-g5849bfa #1[usb] PREEMPT RT Sun Apr 1 23:12:00 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux". In USB 1.1 mode it shows up fine: ALSA device list: #0: MXC Freescale with SPDIF #1: MYTEK DIGITAL STEREO192-DSD DAC at usb-fsl-ehci.0-1.4, full speed #2: fab4 (ak4420) #3: fab4 (wm8974) .. and I've added a USB2 hub as well. but when connected via USB 2 (whether via hub or otherwise), it appears in dmesg and gets assigned a USB device but doesn't show up in the menus as selectable: usb 1-1.4: new high speed USB device using fsl-ehci and address 4 usb 1-1.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice # cat manufacturer product Mytek Digital STEREO192-DSD DAC # pwd /sys/class/usb_device/usbdev1.4/device drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
I have a Mytek 192 DSD preamp/DAC and so far it works perfectly in any SPDIF mode up to 96khz (as long as it's configured to sync to incoming clock. more on this later), but I get pops and clicks in USB 1 mode via EDO. It doesn't work at all on its USB 2 port, with or without a USB hub. In USB 1 mode it'll also only go up to 96Khz. I guess that's normal. Anyone else tried this combo with any greater success via USB? As for the sync issues, this DAC is pretty unique that it gives you a ton of choices about where it gets its clocks from; so I can select an internal clock, use the incoming clock signal from SPDIF/USB, or use an external word clock. Using SPDIF I had no issues with it syncing to the SBT clock output, but neither using internal clock, nor using adaptive mode in USB1 seems to be able to avoid pops and clicks. (I don't have a word clock source.) drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tp link booster..?
Exactly. TPLink is a brand, not a type of device. They offer Powerline adapters with and without WiFi, they also offer extenders, boosters, access points, routers, etc.. If your upstairs Powerline includes a WiFi access point built in then you could indeed configure it and use it. Most don't, however, as you pay extra for that feature. (Unsurprisingly.) drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106581 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Like all backlights they will die eventually, but well, the thing has to serve a useful function during its lifetime so Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] RP3 + 7" Touchsceen- wall installation
Would agree with that. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106472 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] RP3 + 7" Touchsceen- wall installation
You can also run HDMI over CAT5.. :) drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106472 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] RP3 + 7" Touchsceen- wall installation
Sounds like a cool planned setup. But I might just put a SB receiver in each physical zone and run cat 5 everywhere myself. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106472 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music Library is on WD Personal Cloud - My LMS hangs when inactive for a day or so...
This is only true if the NAS disables power save... drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106452 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music Library is on WD Personal Cloud - My LMS hangs when inactive for a day or so...
Turn power saving off? drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106452 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Anyone using Mojo with SBT?
It means the DAC dictates the rate of data send, so the DAC syncs to its own internal clock and "pulls" audio data from the host instead of the host sending a stream and dictating. Async is likely to be the highest quality option because the DAC doesn't rely on the PC audio card clock. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106359 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Anyone using Mojo with SBT?
Indeed. I didn't get chance to install EDO and test it myself until the Hugo had to go back unfortunately. I'm sure it works but it has two modes "generic USB" and "HD USB". I believe only the second supports asynch but could be wrong. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106359 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Anyone using Mojo with SBT?
This is the key to the ultimate quality. I think the driver reports it if you login to the SBT. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106359 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with EDO does not remember output setting
celo wrote: > Since I have not used an amp/DAC before I am trying to figure it out how > to connect. Currently, I connected the Mojo via USB to SBT (EDO). > > Yes, (@Man in a van), I connect the 3.5mm cable to the headphone output > on the Mojo and connect the RCA ends to my amp (no volume on the amp). > So, no need to use line out mode (I assume). > > What I want to know is that what amp is feeding my speakers? :) The Mojo > or my amp?:) I do not think Mojo's amp can be bypassed. I am confused > here as how it works. So you are basically relying on the mojo to behave as a pre-amp, because your "amp" has no volume control so is presumably a fixed gain power amp. Given that the volume control on the mojo has no remote control capability I would do the following: Turn SBT vol all the way down Set mojo to "line" level output via magic button sequence Use SBT volume control to control sound level. If you find you can't get to even 30% vol on SBT without it being too loud you may need to lower the mojo volume setting further. But note that both these devices use digital volume controls. The mojo has a higher resolution digital volume control than the SBT, but you still may lose resolution at low volumes on either, depending on the gain of your power amp. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with EDO does not remember output setting
Man in a van wrote: > I had a quick skim of the specs and line level output is given as > "3v" > still above the normal 2v or so. Yep, but this is not 100% volume, in the stereophile review he measured it at getting on for 4.8V. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with EDO does not remember output setting
As per my comment in the new thread, note that full output level is nearly 4.8V on the mojo, so this might totally blow your amp out the water. Do not default to 100% anything.. Do you have any way of confirming that EDO is capable of driving the mojo in asynchronous mode? Plain old synch USB does not have the same sonic advantages as asynchronous and you may as well just use a perfectly working optical or coaxial spdif cable. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Anyone using Mojo with SBT?
Am testing the Hugo as I write this. Very impressive. Too many options and a complete pain in the butt to operate, but excellent sound quality. I would stick with using the volume on the SBT if that's what you're used to, and set a static line out volume level on the mojo. Watch out though as these things seem to peak way over the expected 2V so you may need to just manually reduce the mojo volume level to something appropriate and leave it there. Interesting you mention connection via USB. Does that work? I know there is support for some offboard DACs in the SBT but does it include asynchronous? drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106359 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And then the time wasn't right....
Xenthar wrote: > I also wonder what to do with the music system I wanted to have. But > currently I am exclusively using Linux, if I want something with that, I > guess I'll write my own software some day to control it. There are also > reasonably affordable touch screens for the raspPi, that kinda replaces > what you would otherwise have done with the Touch. And I need a new > clock ;-). Not frightened of your definition of "worthless".. ;) I guess you're joking to some extent but you do know it's your fault for not hooking up LMS on a system with an internet connection and a valid NTP setup don't you.. ;) As for what next. There are lots of really cool projects out there for the pi and that's likely where I'd go if a) lms wasn't out there and free b) lms wasn't better and more functional than anything you're going to find (or write) anywhere else, and c) the hardware players didn't integrate so damn well, much better than software players and PIs, particularly for sync and desync. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105806 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And then the time wasn't right....
Xenthar wrote: > Seriously going to dump that device now, I don't want it anymore. I'll send a courier round right away..! drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105806 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Auto switching user interface to 10 foot mode?
No, that's too annoying, the buttons never show up so you just can't work the thing you're standing in front of it.. I will look at the sources.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105658 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Auto switching user interface to 10 foot mode?
Aha, did not find that. That may well be sufficient I will take a look. Thanks. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105658 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
