Re: [Trisquel-users] Updates?

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
You're correct in that no interface is specified, but if he were to set up his script as a startup script, he would have no way of authorising it through the CLI because no virtual terminals would be running (unless he specified 'run in terminal' in the options). It would run as one of the startup

Re: [Trisquel-users] What games do you play on your computers

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
English please.

[Trisquel-users] Offtopic: Computer would not boot because of dead bios battery

2015-09-05 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I realize this is not strictly Trisquel related and apologize for that. However in hopes of saving at least one old computer from getting sent to the dump because of such a silly reason I'm posting it. So I tried powering on my laptop but it wouldn't boot normally. In fact when I took a

Re: [Trisquel-users] MacBook 1,1 to Libreboot in software way

2015-09-05 Thread lilos1
I was able to build from Git and flash using flashrom. flashrom --verbose --programmer internal:laptop=force_I_want_a_brick --chip SST25VF016B --read macbook21_usqwerty_vesafb.rom >flashrom_read.log 2>&1 This worked fine for me. Erase/write done. Verifying flash... VERIFIED. Restoring MMIO

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread cdwaldrum
my adhd is acting bad lately for my typing skills suck but i got JB Coder Radio playing.so it better this time. i acutally running antergos arch - i have no time to install the arch way but as soon i get some cash i am going to do it - i like the Libre but for an os man @davidnotcoulthard-

Re: [Trisquel-users] Secure XMPP/Jabber service, running over a free software server.

2015-09-05 Thread 166291
I use Tor + DuckDuckGo + OTR to do my XMPP communications.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What games do you play on your computers

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
I've heard of AotA- it isn't even finished for the regular Morrowind engine, let alone OpenMW. Isn't it a Fallout-type thing?

Re: [Trisquel-users] What games do you play on your computers

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
SaaSS alert.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom keyboard layout, Super+Space won't switch

2015-09-05 Thread gromobir
I use XFCE and simply use the "Keyboard Layout Handler" plugin which I added to my taskbar by clicking on "Add / Remove Panel Items". In the settings for this plugin I can specify the default layout and easily change layouts by simply clicking on the flag showing up in my taskbar. Which DE

Re: [Trisquel-users] What games do you play on your computers

2015-09-05 Thread nuevodesorden
http://es.lichess.org/ good online chess

[Trisquel-users] Internet connexion sharing

2015-09-05 Thread Julius22
Hello everybody, I spent some hours trying to share my Internet connexion with another computer, unsuccessfully, unfortunately. Here follows the situation I've arrived to after trying several solutions I've read on the Web. I have one computer (under Trisquel; let's call it Computer 1)

[Trisquel-users] Custom keyboard layout, Super+Space won't switch

2015-09-05 Thread calle
I bought a ThinkPad X200 and installed Trisquel 7, planning on installing libreboot later. But I want to use a customized keyboard layout and I can't get it to work. I've /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us to my liking, removed /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm and run sudo service lightdm restart. Then I

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread davesamcdxv
Parabola (based on Arch) is Libre, Arch isn't, but Parabola should otherwise be treated as Arch (fro it's otherwise pretty much identical), so why opt for Arch over it? And they've got a graphical Live ISO as well https://wiki.parabola.nu/Get_Parabola#Graphical_live_ISO (although

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble Renaming directories/files

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
To edit the name of the file in Nautilus, select the file, right-click on the file, and select 'rename'. You should now be able to type the new file/directory name. To rename files through the terminal under UNIX, there is no dedicated 'rename' command as in, say, DOS. Instead you should use the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
Except that a budget for a video game is much bigger than developing web server software or a JavaScript library. I'm talking hundreds of millions of dollars (GTAV was like $250 mil and Destiny was $500 mil) that is not possible with a pure FLOSS game. You are telling me that a company

[Trisquel-users] Re : Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread lcerf
Except that a budget for a video game is much bigger than developing web server I am not sure about that. You are telling me that a company should spend that amount of money and then give EVERYTHING away for free? He was praising onpon4's way to get money upfront. With a crowdfunding

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom keyboard layout, Super+Space won't switch

2015-09-05 Thread calle
OK, I think I've come up with something that works. - Fix my keyboard layout as described in my first post - Leave Keyboard Layout Handler with "Keep system layouts" - Create an executable file with the line 'setxkbmap -layout "us,se" -variant "myvariant," -option "grp:shifts_toggle"' - In

Re: [Trisquel-users] Crowdfunding a game I'm developing: ReTux (Mario-inspired game)

2015-09-05 Thread tomlukeywood
so far ReTux has raised $318 with 5 days left which is not bad considering the amount of publicity assuming the amount of money stays around the same what happens?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
Let's think about this typical scenario: I have 10 employees (which is pretty low) and have the intention to create a game. Since the game is aiming to use a pure FLOSS engine, either I or someone on that team has to build it from scratch which takes time and effort. Let's say I aim for a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jadedml
RMS doesn't think a game's art assets have to be free-- he thinks everyone should be able to redistribute art non-commercially, though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
In this post you still seem to be confusing gratis and libre. At no point have I said everything must be gratis. Please correct your understanding. :) "...when you want to aim for something as big as a video game and want quality work while still respecting freedoms." It seems interesting

[Trisquel-users] Re : What games do you play on your computers

2015-09-05 Thread calinou
This uses non-free libraries and third-party services: Disqus, Google Analytics, Highcharts. I heard reCAPTCHA was in the works too.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
Here's another question for you. Let's say someone develops a game that fits your ideals of free software and free culture. Or maybe its free software but has pay for assets. A customer goes on the site and buys the game and the developer doesn't immediately offer the source code for that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thinkpenguin USB wireless adapter not working in Trisquel(ized) 7

2015-09-05 Thread jason
"I tested the wireless card by booting Trisquel from USB and reconnecting to my home network ... However, after rebooting the laptop, the antenna is no longer even detected by the system." You probably need the open-ath9k-htc-firmware package. Please install it on your computer. It should

[Trisquel-users] Re : Internet connexion sharing

2015-09-05 Thread Julius22
Thanks for replying. I tried it, but it unfortunately didn't work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread onpon4
Just out of interest, I want to point out what the numbers are like with a 500 million dollar game. I think you might be misinterpreting the statistics (Wikipedia says that 500 million dollars was the total money earned from the initially sold copies), but let's just assume you're right: at

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/07/01/bungie-says-destiny-cost-nowhere-near-500-million-decade-long-story-planned/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
Ideally, you create a paywall for your game where they must pay for their copy of it. But then realistically, once that tarball and source code is out there after the first person buys it, it is distributed freely without restriction according to the free software license. It reminds me of

[Trisquel-users] Re : my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread lcerf
Again: could you write understandable posts? Please use a spell-checker (Abrowser uses Hunspell) and reread your post before clicking the "Send" button.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Internet connexion sharing

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
Isn't connexion an archaic spelling? I've never seen it actually used in the modern day.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
Regardless of whether they implement DRM or not, they are still non-free software, and must be opposed on those grounds.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
Maybe your efforts should be better spent in taking the Trisquel core and adding a different desktop to it and additional programs. If you can get a super sexy Cinnamon, MATE, or Unity version of Trisquel up and going, I wouldn't object.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jadedml
If I were to justify the use of a non-free game just because it was DRM-free, I'd be able to justify running any non-free program that is DRM-free. Games are software, just like any other program. It's just as bad when a game is non-free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread noordinaryspider
I made my own knock-off/lookalike of my first and most beloved distro, Damn Small Linux. It was easy-peasy! Just download the "net install" .iso of Trisquel 7 and install the base system (not Trisquel Desktop, Triskel, or Trisquel-mini) and add what you actually use one at a time with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
"You are telling me that a company should spend that amount of money and then give EVERYTHING away for free?" You of all people should know that when we're talking of free it doesn't mean gratis. Free software and free culture aren't anti-money. Recall what I said earlier that "I'd like to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/13/destiny-500-million/ It is the total package including the marketing in addition to the development. If that is inaccurate, there is another list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop which has more info. Either

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
So let's talk more about this art issue. You pay for the right to see a movie in a movie theatre or steam a movie. Let's say you pay for tickets to go to a concert a poetry reading. You and you alone specifically have the right to view that medium for the duration. That guy off the street

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread cdwaldrum
i am 24 and i am American- i am aso a guy,, i just have trouble typeing lately. due to the fact my ADHD is making my attetion span wack.

Re: [Trisquel-users] MacBook 1,1 to Libreboot in software way

2015-09-05 Thread lilos1
I don`t know is this my laptop problem but ethernet interface not work.Tested with my buid and original 05.18 libreboot build. Forget to test with OSX, Wifi works very good.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
"Ideally, you create a paywall for your game where they must pay for their copy of it. But then realistically, once that tarball and source code is out there after the first person buys it, it is distributed freely without restriction according to the free software license. It reminds me of

[Trisquel-users] Thinkpenguin USB wireless adapter not working in Trisquel(ized) 7

2015-09-05 Thread isaac
Symptom: External USB wireless antenna is not working. Issue: I do not have an educated guess as to what the issue is. Configuration: Device: Lenovo Thinkpad x220 Trisquel 7 Belenos Wireless N USB Adapter w/ External 5dBi Antenna (Atheros AR9271) from Thinkpenguin Details: I have just

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
There seems to be some confusion going on again. "Or maybe its free software but has pay for assets." Here you're again confusing libre and gratis. So for this purpose I'll try to say libre. Saying "but has pay for assets" tells me nothing of that license of those assets. Someone can pay

[Trisquel-users] Re : Custom keyboard layout, Super+Space won't switch

2015-09-05 Thread lcerf
I use GNOME Shell (and GDM but I do not think it matters): it works out of the box.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Offtopic: Computer would not boot because of dead bios battery

2015-09-05 Thread blade . vp2020
I Will destroy my pc Because disassemble it It is important that I got to know the pieces lol

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom keyboard layout, Super+Space won't switch

2015-09-05 Thread calle
I just downloaded the standard Trisquel. System Settings > Details says I'm using Gnome. I come from a Mac background and have been using Linux for servers (headless) so I'm not very familiar with Linux desktop stuff. There is no Keyboard Layout Handler to choose when I right-click the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Internet connexion sharing

2015-09-05 Thread firefoxbugreporter
You might not have forwarding enabled. You can try this: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward This is necessary to route packages between two network interfaces. Keep in mind that when you restart the system the changes will be lost. And there are also security implications so you

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trouble Renaming directories/files

2015-09-05 Thread lcerf
To edit the name of the file in Nautilus, select the file, right-click on the file, and select 'rename'. Or F2.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Internet connexion sharing

2015-09-05 Thread Julius22
Yes, sorry for the misspelling. I thought connection was spelled the same way in english and french. I should have checked this.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Internet connexion sharing

2015-09-05 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
A quick look to Wiktionary suggests that it's a contemporary French spelling. Julius22's profile page confirms he's Frech.

Re: [Trisquel-users] An open media alliance has formed in response to H.264 and H.265

2015-09-05 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
willieaame...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think the tipping point will only come once physical media is considered rare. The more people that stop buying physical media the better. I don't agree mainly because of DRM and the spying DRM schemes seem to use these days. Traditionally physical

Re: [Trisquel-users] An open media alliance has formed in response to H.264 and H.265

2015-09-05 Thread jason
"What would Apple lose if they added WebM to Safari and/or Quicktime as the codecs are royalty free and under a permissive BSD license? Nothing." I suspect that they're not doing it because of their connection to MPEG-LA: They get patent royalties for H.265/HEVC and H.264 abd MPEG-4, etc.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread jadedml
I have three hypothesise: Either he's: A- Learning English. B- Under 15 (Making a new distro is quite a naive in most cases, isn't it?) (Being under 15 isn't bad. Tom's under 15, but he's fantastical!) C- Not quite sane.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
I'm still on the fence about the DRM free, yet non-free games debate. If the software was a tool like lets say Python or nginx or an operating system like Trisquel, then I 100% agree that it should be FLOSS. A game though is pretty self contained and serves one purpose. It doesn't try to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Offtopic: Computer would not boot because of dead bios battery

2015-09-05 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I'm afraid I didn't save the URL in the heat of the action. And since all laptops are different it's probably best to search for the exact model you have. For me the battery was behind a lid that hosted the wifi card I had to remove to get access and the RAM sticks. Here's to hoping I can

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread moxalt
my [sic] adhd [sic][???] is acting bad lately [sic] for my typing skills suck [sic] but i [sic] got JB Coder Radio playing [???]. [sic] so [sic] it better this time [sic]. i [sic] acutally [sic] running antergos arch [sic] - i [sic] have no time to install the arch [sic] way but as soon as i [sic]

Re: [Trisquel-users] An open media alliance has formed in response to H.264 and H.265

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
I feel for consuming media on the web, the more open formats the better. JPEG is pretty much the standard for pictures, so why can't we have an equivalent for audio and video? It just seems silly that there are no restrictions in viewing pictures but then magically we aren't sure if we can

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
I think that the first had some free stuff, at least after enough money was raised: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2010/05/with-1-million-raised-humble-bundle-games-go-open-source/3 But this doesn't seem normal anymore though. You're totally right - They should be selling only free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom keyboard layout, Super+Space won't switch

2015-09-05 Thread gromobir
Well, actually it should work out of the box: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/keyboard-layouts.html.en Does this problem only occur if you use gedit? Do you have the new layout for other programs?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Offtopic: Computer would not boot because of dead bios battery

2015-09-05 Thread gromobir
Great that you managed to save your old computer. :-) Could you maybe post the link to the video for future reference?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Offtopic: Computer would not boot because of dead bios battery

2015-09-05 Thread greatgnu
Been there, done that :) No need for videos or guides - you need to disassemble your laptop until you can see the cmos battery, you take it out and you place a new one inside. You assembly back your lappy as it was. I am amazed how many people don't know about this and throw away perfectly

[Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
The Humble Bundle store is having a big sale right now and for many of these games, they offer DRM free versions for GNU/Linux that can be installed directly from the download in addition to Stem keys. I know the free software community hates DRM and wants ALL of the code to be free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
"...and serves one purpose." Says who? Everyone deserves the fundamental right to copy, modify and share. Period. It is the user's purpose that matters, not the developer's purpose. The developer of the program is not entitled to impose their purposes on someone else. All software is a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom keyboard layout, Super+Space won't switch

2015-09-05 Thread calle
I installed Trisquel Mini with LXDE instead. I'm able to switch between keyboard layouts using Keyboard Layout Handler. But then I addded my variant of the us keyboard layout using the method described in my first post and it won't show up in Keyboard Layout Handler. I can get it to load if

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread taknamay
Are we allowed to talk about an idealized society, with a radically different economic structure than ours?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread chris
I think you have to ask this question: Should we even accept copyright in the first place? It's taking away what is otherwise peoples rights to free expression. The justification for copyright was the benefit of the arts and sciences. However it was always intended to be "limited". That was

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread zwiebel444
I dont´t dislike copyright, but it just doesn´t work for anyone, at least for long. A game can be copied, just like many other things. It can get incompatible, specially the DRM... (old incompatible CD-checks aren´t fun). When Games are considered art, then they should be archived as good as

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread zwiebel444
I would find it interesting, if someone would resurrect trisquel gamers (trisquel iso with some opensource games. Maybe some PC magazines would use that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread chris
I'd encourage people to avoid playing, paying for, contributing to, or even discussing the games dependent on non-free code. Talking about them furthers the publicity of the game. I'm not going to suggest we *censor* users who choose to talk about them as that too would be wrong.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread davesamcdxv
To answer OP: That's a problem the aswer for which is different for every individual. But it's still non-free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
moxalt wrote: Regardless of whether they implement DRM or not, they are still non-free software, and must be opposed on those grounds. And in addition from a security perspective, any non-free software one runs has as much access to the computer as the user account under which it runs. So any

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread legimet . calc
And "free trade" agreements like TPP, TISA, TTIP will extend the copyright term even further if passed :(

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread jason
"I think it may just be the only justifiable case for copyright today would be those distributing content under copyleft licenses. These works truly are for the benefit of all." Indeed, and I think that any discussion of ending copyright needs to be paired with a discussion of how copyleft

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread chris
Digital restrictions make a mockery of copyright system in denying the users access to the works after the 'limited term' for which the public was in theory suppose later benefit from as a result of more works. Obviously DRM prevents that from happening in theory if it were ever to actually

Re: [Trisquel-users] Crowdfunding a game I'm developing: ReTux (Mario-inspired game)

2015-09-05 Thread onpon4
At the current funding, the game will be around the estimated 40 levels long, including all of the features you can see in Concept Castle. Graphical flaws will be fixed up, and Tux will be given a run animation (I'll need to hire an artist to do this). Anything else that gets added is purely

[Trisquel-users] Re : Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread lcerf
You analogies are not correct. The copyright is right to copy and redistribute. I believe the audience should always be allowed to record a live performance and redistribute it. Watching a record is nothing like the live performance... and that is why and how many artists make a living.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread zwiebel444
I personally bought many games that are closed source but have open source engines, especially, when the developer of the game also develops the engine. I find it stupid, when games, specially the engine, are kept close source. It just hinders fans from keeping it up to date.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread cdwaldrum
for me guys - i am a gammer and i see why but i also learn since coming to GN/ linux that DRM is a breach but not as bad as Windows 10! knowing me i will install steam on this desktop like i have on my laptop and play my games! the free games in the repos are fun but bothing beats pamajas

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread cdwaldrum
my tech friends all use archh and they gave me atergos when i told them i wanted something more then Mint.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my own os spin idea

2015-09-05 Thread cdwaldrum
ill look into it but how to go about it cause alot of gammers like Gmone3? my first really challenge would be adding Gnome3 ti it - i saw a post ealier on some other thread. i cant remmber where though- but the sudo comand didnt work for adding gnome3

Re: [Trisquel-users] Do DRM free games matter even if the game is non-free?

2015-09-05 Thread tegskywalker
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.en.html "Nonfree game programs (like other nonfree programs) are unethical because they deny freedom to their users. (Game art is a different issue, because it isn't software.)" "Since the art in the game is not software, it does not need to be