Before I leave though: Bill and David, would you
kindly postpone the discussion suggested below? I don't want to miss
it!
Debbie
Bill wrote:
Iwould like to have a discussion sometime
(although it'll have to wait awhile)about epistemological humility as it
relates to the study of
Sent: July 06, 2005 17:45
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Debbie wrote:
Mostly differences that make for messier slogging
when I am wading through Judy's. More lily pads,
duckweed, that sort of thing.
LOL. Oh, Debbie, you do realize that you
Lance wrote:
Ahhh David but, YOU ARE A SCRIBE!
Standing next to the average joe who is ignorant of the Bible, maybe I would
be mistaken for a scribe, but next to guys like Bill Taylor? No way. I
have never had a religion class in my life, and you, more than anyone, knows
how my theological
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Lance wrote:
Ahhh David but, YOU ARE A SCRIBE!
Standing next to the average joe who is ignorant of the Bible, maybe I
would
be mistaken for a scribe, but next to guys like Bill Taylor? No way. I
have never had a religion
(?)
From:
Dave
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
July 05, 2005 14:14
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
DAVEH: I think another TTer mentioned (Izzy below) eternal life. Do
you believe you can have eternal life
. It is sustained by God. Life, apart from God, has no intrinsic eternality (?)
From: Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 05, 2005 14:14
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
DAVEH: I think another TTer mentioned (Izzy below) eternal life. Do you believe
k@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:03
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DAVEH: Then it seems that something can have both a
beginning and be eternal as well.Lance Muir wrote:
Can I have eternal life? Yes
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John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things
Debbie wrote:
Judy, almost every time we read one of your
messages we are wading through theological
stuff--your theological stuff ...
Fair enough, but surely you see a difference between Judy's theological
stuff and that of the other theologians.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
See what I mean, David? (the John Bill thingy)
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 06, 2005 10:20
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Debbie wrote:
Judy, almost every time we read
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Debbie wrote:
Judy, almost every time we read one of your
messages we are wading through theological
stuff--your theological stuff ...
Fair enough, but surely you see
You may not see it Debbie but there most certainly
are.
Methinks you are not understanding so well as you
think. jt
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:15:16 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mostly
differences that make for messier slogging when I am wading
throughJudy's. More lily
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Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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You may not see it Debbie but there most certainly
are.
Methinks you are not understanding so well as you
an openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:38:34 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All
Debbie wrote:
Mostly differences that make for messier slogging
when I am wading through Judy's. More lily pads,
duckweed, that sort of thing.
LOL. Oh, Debbie, you do realize that you are talking to a Florida boy here,
don't you. :-) I love your picturesque way with words. You are
Yes, I certainly do. In fact, you may have noticed
the parenthesis I included towards the end of the post occasioning this little
dialogue: "let alone whether it has been preceded by any more careful attention
to Scripture or to the voice of the Spirit". I don't think the "dynamics"
: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Debbie wrote:
Mostly differences that make for messier slogging
when I am wading through Judy's. More lily pads,
duckweed, that sort of thing.
LOL. Oh, Debbie, you do realize that you are talking to a Florida boy here,
don't you. :-) I
BTW, Thank you David and Izzy for your kind remarks re writing. And David,
in the unlikely event I go to Florida, I would be delighted to do lunch.
Debbie
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians
Do make a stopover in St. Louis, too. iz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:44 PM
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BTW
: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Lance wrote:
Two of yours, David:
1. Eternal Sonship
2. Perfection
Your perspective that these doctrines are wrong is influenced by the
propoganda of this world system that you have bought into. In short, you
have been
that you must have a rather detailed schema. Care to
outline any of it?
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 14:53
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Lance wrote:
... you never
both
as saying that God was equally involved on both levels.
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 14:33
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Lance,
Habakkuk Chapter 1
20:55
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I know a good Calvinist will deny it but . .
.
Judy when you are ready to discuss this
without thesmears and stereotypes,you can let me
know.
Bill
- Original Message
One cannot apprehend
nonsense.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:23
AM
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When you say'making
:38
PM
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And the first converts to The Faith keep going tothe
Temple and
practicing all of the Levtical Law so what!!!
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From
Huh??? Could you 'splain it to me, Lance? iz
-Original Message-
I do believe that 'spirit beings' exist though without any inherent 'being'
just as we are not created 'eternal' (no eternal soul).
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Huh??? Could you 'splain it to me, Lance? iz
-Original Message-
I do believe that 'spirit beings' exist though without any inherent
'being'
just as we are not created 'eternal' (no eternal soul).
--
Let
, 2005 08:38
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Huh??? Could you 'splain it to me, Lance? iz
-Original Message-
I do believe that 'spirit beings' exist though without any inherent
'being'
just as we are not created 'eternal' (no eternal soul
Absolutely not! These are not incongruous.
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From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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True, but you think He lied when He said we will have
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There is a commandment against practicing idolatry. And you say So what? Are you nullifying God?s commandment
y" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 05, 2005 08:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
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Huh??? Could you 'splain it to me, Lance? iz
-Original Message- I do believe that 'spirit
beings' exist though without any inherent 'bei
Lance writes: I do believe that 'spirit beings' exist though
without any inherent 'being'just as we are not created
'eternal' (no eternal soul).
jt: You need to revise your theology Lance; God is a
Spirit and he is an 'inherent being'
The first Adam was created in the image of God - as a
Lance: I do believe that 'spirit beings' exist though without any inherent'being' just as we are not created 'eternal' (no eternal soul).
What if the story of AE had a dualistic application -- a revelation about man as
a living soul. not created, not eternal and thoroughly
Not to me Lance and I still can't figure out why Bill
would be offended since he does in fact have a
Calvinistic bent only I understand that he doesn't
think that everyday Calvinism correctly interprets
the writings of Calvin. Who has time to wade
through all this theological stuff? Why not
DAVEH: ??? Cannot one who is eternal have a beginning?
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
And by "not eternal", we mean
"having a beginning". We agree our life in Christ has no end.
Debbie
True, but you think He lied when He
said we will have eternal life? iz
--
Give us an example, DaveH.
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From:
Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 05, 2005 12:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
the eternal sonship of Christ
DAVEH: ??? Cannot one who is eternal have a
beginning?Debbie Sawczak
As sure as someone who is ETERNAL having an end
OR
having square - circles.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: ??? Cannot one who is eternal have a beginning?Debbie Sawczak wrote:
And by "not eternal", we mean "having a beginning". We agree our life in Christ has no end.
Debbie
True, but
Another reply would be, no.
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 05, 2005 12:32
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
the eternal sonship of Christ
As sure as someone who is ETERNAL having an end
ly 05, 2005 7:32
AM
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:47:10 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To the extent that perception is reality, would
you acknowledge that this statement of yours (below
Message -
From:
Dave
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
July 05, 2005 12:24
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
DAVEH: ??? Cannot one who is eternal have a beginning?
Debbie Sawczak wrote
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:49:47 -0600 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy writes Not to me Lance and I
still can't figure out why Bill would be offended since he does
in fact have a Calvinistic
bent only I understand that he doesn't think that everyday Calvinism correctly
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
DAVEH: You've lost me (again) on this, Lance. Can you put it in
simple talk for simple people like meplease?
Lance Muir wrote:
I do remember. Some time back
David Miller corrected me for making
us an example, DaveH.
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Original Message -
From:
Dave
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
July 05, 2005 12:24
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
DAVEH: ??? Cannot one
Never mind, Dave.
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From:
Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 05, 2005 14:35
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
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DAVEH: I'm still not sure of what you are asking,
Lance. Please simplify your
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 05, 2005 14:34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:49:47 -0600 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy writes Not t
2005 14:34
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:49:47 -0600 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy writes Not to me Lance and
I still can't figure out why Bill would be of
'Til next time,
Bill
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:34
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
the eternal sonship of Christ
On Tue
what's the salient
point in her represntative comment/s: ineptitude in theology is normal for her
segment of the population, to which she flocks on TruthTalk? the quote 'it's
like feedin' strawberries to jackasses' comes to mind Mr.
Moderator--howwould youcharacterize it?
On Tue, 5 Jul
In your mind, Lance. In your mind.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:01 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Absolutely
Thank you, Debbie. Lance needs to spreken
der English. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:09
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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g by David.
Debbie
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:34
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
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Judy Who has time
myth (D said : ''I
will celebrate before the LORD'-2Sam6:21b; FTR, the word 'worship' does
not even appear in 2 Sam except in ch15 where it is employed by Absalom in the
context of anarchy from 'conspiracy' to publicly supplantthe Lord's
anointed on thethrone (e.g., 2Sam15:8); also, how is
KJV, ff.,
where celebrate was rendered 'play'--if celebrate has
anything to do with 'worship' then let's get real 'vile' every Sunday a.m. at
10:30a.m. sharp (only till noon, though)
King Jwould
love 'worship' in America-eh?
And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, which chose
anyone adjacent to
this bombardment wanna expound on the emotional connection, perhaps sympathy for
the devil in effect between Michal and Absalom--e.g., what were there
foundational and residual attitudes toward Saul?
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:32:06 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
KJV, ff.,
then,
perhaps,lets juxtapose that set ofemotions with King David's--anyone
remember Mick Jagger in his prime? E.g. what's Sam suggesting about his
anointed's 'vile' dancing--you wanna call it 'worship'? (go ahead, but don't try
it in Colorado Springs--they'll flatass toss you outa the RNC!
how did Saul
'worship'--why did he keep his spear handy as if for Goliaths he
actuallyhid from(his spear iinstead of his F16s and B1s patrolling
the heavens)?
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:43:57 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
anyone adjacent
to this bombardment wanna expound on the emotional
..on the 4th of
July]
happy holiday:) g
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:59:09 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
how did Saul
'worship'--why did he keep his spear handy as if for Goliaths he
actuallyhid from(his spear iinstead of his F16s and B1s patrolling
the heavens[..)?
||
So the psalmist who wrote so many prophetic psalms of
worship while out tending the sheep - forgot how to worship
once he became king? No! Actually he humbled
himself by removing his kingly robe and dancing before the Lord.
Even though his own wife judged him the same way one
would be
DM and JT seem to have aquired a profound distaste
for the 'rcc church fathers'. I'd guess that you've both 'googled' locations
but, have either of you read them? Some are among the most godly of your
brothers in christ over the centuries. Please believe me when I tell you that
the
creatures as the 'second Adam.'
- Original Message -
From:
Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 01:17
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
the eternal sonship of Christ
DAVEH: You've lost me (again) on this, Lance.
Can you put it in simple talk
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion
Lance. Here in the US this is our first ammendment right. I don't
personally know any of the rcc church fathers and I don't believe you do
either. The little I have read of them has been enough for me. They
are as bad as or even worse than TT about
than in the BSF chapter in your home town).
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 06:26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
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Eve
riginal Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 06:26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion
: July 04, 2005 07:47
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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 06:50:20 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
You say 'I leave judging people to God'. You
wrote the post below which I just read. Are you ab
Ironic statement. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Take care you
who would speak ill of that which the Spirit of God indwells.
: [TruthTalk]
Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Everyone is entitled to their own
opinion Lance. Here in the US this is our first ammendment
right. I don't personally know any of the rcc church fathers and I don't
believe you do either. The little I have read of them has been enough
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You say 'I leave judging people to
God'. You wrote the post below which I just read. Are you able to read,
objectively, that which you just wrote then say "I leave judging p
ciples, ah, therein is the rub.
JD
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I didn't know all that
How do you figure? Since when do you speak
for Him? iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:30
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Since before each of the aforemention commenced
speaking for Him. (I'm older)
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 08:43
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
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How do
sonship of Christ
Since before each of the aforemention commenced speaking for
Him. (I'm older)
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From: ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005
08:43
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ssage -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 06:26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic
for the eternal sonship of Christ
Everyone
Sent: July 04, 2005 06:26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
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Everyone is entitled to their own
opinion Lance. Here in the US this is our first ammendment
right. I don't personally know any of the rcc church
do not see it as a concept to be libeled or avoided. -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:23:52 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
We are starting to
Sent:
July 04, 2005 06:26
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of
Christ
Everyone is
entitled to their own opinion Lance. Here in the US this
om:
Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 06:26
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Lance Many present day 'rcc' believers are your brothers and sisters in christ.
AndIF they are, it is in spite of the RCC.
I could more readily accept "SOME"
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion Lance. Here in the US this is our first ammendment
some local Catholic Charismatic prayer group than in the BSF chapter in your home town).
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From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 06:26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of C
And IF you, David, Judy and Iz are, it is in spite
of MANY OF YOUR ERRANT BELIEFS.
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 04, 2005 09:42
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for
the eternal sonship of Christ
John wrote:
But God does not kick us out of the family
-- we leave.
This is true in some cases, such as the prodigal son, but God also kicks
people out who he does not want to be there. If God can kick Lucifer out,
and if he can kick the angels that sinned out, and if he can kick Adam out
-Original Message-
From: Terry Clifton wabbits1234@earthlink.net
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:05:42
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Te
Lance wrote:
DM and JT seem to have aquired a profound
distaste for the 'rcc church fathers'. I'd guess that
you've both 'googled' locations but, have either
of you read them?
Lance, why do you try so hard to make me look like the village idiot? :-)
First off, let me point out that I have
the dualistic mind
in action--ya don't dancewith Colorado Springs, yer goin'
taGuantanamo
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:37:40 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dancing is worship
||From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AM
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Not entirely from you guys but, partially. You and, David
appear to believe that God 'ordained' the invasion of Iraq. That is
in no way less idolatrous than the former
Lance wrote:
You and, David appear to believe that God
'ordained' the invasion of Iraq. That is in no
way less idolatrous than the former.
What is idolatrous about the concept that God ordains the nations that rise
and fall? You are starting not to make any sense again.
What do you think,
-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke cpl2602@hotmail.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:57:16 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
John, What say ye of those who never believed that Jesus is the Son of God, or that he d
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:06:09 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
..on the 4th of July]
happy holiday:) g
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:59:09 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
how did
-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 4 Jul 2005
01:06:09 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship
of Christ
..on the 4th of
July]
happy holiday:) g
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:59:09 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Great example of wresting scripture for one's own
purpose... dangerous practice.
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:45:52 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When Moses approached the camp and saw the calf and the
dancing, his anger burned and he threw the tablets out of his hands,
breaking them to
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You say 'I leave judging people to God'. You wrote the post below which I just read. Are you able to read, objectively, that which you just wrote then say "I leave judging people t
Other than loyalty
to the RNC, typical right wing bible thumpers are unconcerned with before whom
or whose throne they dance
FTR, Miriam was
known as a dualistic dancer like that, likethey got in Colorado Springs,
the only emphasis on dancing is on exclusively with us
Miriam'scultural
Do you EAT Jesus lance?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And IF you, David, Judy and Iz are, it is in spite of MANY OF YOUR ERRANT BELIEFS.
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From: Kevin Deegan
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Sent: July 04, 2005 09:42
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic
of Iraq. That is in no way less idolatrous than the former.
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From: ShieldsFamily
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Where do you get the idea that the idolatry of Mariology doesn
Everyone is so HYPER AD HOM lately[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Other than loyalty to the RNC, typical right wing bible thumpers are unconcerned with before whom or whose throne they dance
FTR, Miriam was known as a dualistic dancer like that, likethey got in Colorado Springs, the only emphasis on
and fundamentalist.
Sorry, I believe that you are further right than God.
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: July 04, 2005 10:29
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Lance wrote:
You
Lance wrote:
And IF you, David, Judy and Iz are, it is in
spite of MANY OF YOUR ERRANT BELIEFS.
The problem with us communicating, Lance, is that you have bought into one
of those doctrines of devils that teaches that everybody has errant beliefs.
We do not have any errant beliefs.
For the
of the church fathers do you have David?. Which of them
have you read?
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: July 04, 2005 10:19
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Lance wrote:
DM and JT seem to have
Two of yours, David: 1. Eternal Sonship 2. Perfection
I needn't 'buy into' anything. I need only read you.
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Sent: July 04, 2005 12:55
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will work out for your good -- nodoubt
jd
-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 04:06:02 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
DM and JT seem to have aquired a profoun
David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: July 04, 2005 10:29Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic
for the eternal sonship of Christ Lance wrote: You and, David appear to believe that God 'ordained' the invasion of Iraq. That is in no way less idol
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