Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:21:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: I hope you don't mind my intrusion, John. First.welcome to TT and this thread. it is great to speak with you [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: So the Devil could be saved if he endures to the end? DAVEH: Just ignoring my questions again, Kevin? If Jesus' grace is for ALL who endure to the end, then what do you think would be the answer? Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote:

[TruthTalk] Re:Similar thinking on the meaning of this message

2004-03-11 Thread Lance Muir
It is not necessary that so many people should read the philosophers for their ideas to prevail. Deadly viruses produced in the "high country of the mind" can get into the streams, run down and be picked up by the plants below; the sociologists and the psychologists, the imaginative

[TruthTalk] Re:The quotation did you take another run at it?

2004-03-11 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 10, 2004 21:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:16:53 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now we beseech you..by our gathering

[TruthTalk] Re:Limited Atonement? How About Limited Incarnation then?

2004-03-11 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Wm. Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 10, 2004 22:09 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone Did Christ include Judas in his death? Did He die for him? I think, unless we want to go into a discussion of Limited

[TruthTalk] Mel Gibson's Movie

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perry wrote: I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevinwith respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie. My position is that it is not "the Passion"... it is an RCC commentary about "the Passion". John: Actually, I saw this movie and the above thought

[TruthTalk] Re:Limited Atonement? How About Limited Incarnation then?

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re:Limited Atonement? How About Limited Incarnation then? jt: Sadly this ison the TTlist also - there truly is nothing new under the sun. judyt God allows the devil to raise up hereticsto make his people study From: Wm. Taylor Did Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] SP's Hired?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Mar/03062004/public_f/145185.asp No comparison Brian Barnard (Forum, Feb. 22) wants to equate screaming itinerant "street preachers" with Mormon missionaries. Comparing bullhorn-blaring professionals against volunteer Mormon missionaries won't wash. The preachers are

Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
If I told my secretary to take a letter. I speak the words she writes them down. Who was the author? The Word is Inspired Presevered by GodGod is the Author of His Holy Bible. Now the supposed transcription by scribes as JoE recievedwords that magically appeared in a hat is NO PROBLEM for you?

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Similar thinking on the meaning of this message

2004-03-11 Thread Terry Clifton
Lance Muir wrote: It is not necessary that so many people should read the philosophers for their ideas to prevail. Deadly viruses produced in the "high country of the mind" can get into the streams, run down and be picked up by the plants below; the sociologists and the

Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
The fact that you would even think such a thing as "too inferior" is a sad commentary on Mormonism. I find the LDS attitude of worthiness as repulsive. Thereis a select crowd who are "worthy" to enter the temple. Many of the problems of full disclosure of LDS beliefs stem from the idea of Gentiles

Re: [TruthTalk] SP's Hired?

2004-03-11 Thread Terry Clifton
Here is another example of misguided LDS who are taught by their leaders that all ANTI's are HIRED payed to tract, preach or whatever. The Devil HIRED a Protestant Preacher(who is just a puppet of Satan) in the old Temple Ceremony. It is sad LDS are so gullible. FTR you could not pay

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Probably like the Kinderhook plates, that JoE tried to translate.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good job, vince, I am saving most of this information. To our Mormon buds, I re-ask a question.DAVEH: Sorry John..I must have missed it the first time. As you may know,

Re: [TruthTalk] The value of history

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
DavidM says He is the light that lighteth every man who comes into the world, even those who have never read the Bible. Jesus Christ is found in history as well as in the Bible. Thanks Judy for pointing out. jt: By what authority do yousay Jesus Christ is found everywhere?He is and has always

Re: [TruthTalk] SP's Hired?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
2 of them were arrested last conference. They assault us all the time. (Of course they go after the smaller guys) They are threatening violence this April. Riot and worse. One that was arrested was a HIGH PRIEST in the church! My pastor is not a Striker. The Sunday pm session is a LDS priest only

Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
I want to see what you folks believe too. There are a lot of posts that you Blaine totally ignored. Even when attempting an answer, you pick choose ignoring much of the substance.. I am not giving you the runaround I have answered the question. What do you not understand?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Language-Including The Bible

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Appears to me that you may need help yourself Bill because when we do appear before the Lord, he is not going to be impressed bythe Nicene Fathers. What we will be judged by are the words that HE spoke and BTW the Holy Spirit can speak and communicate in

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
HE WAS A DEVIL! Jesus told us so. Where do Devils go? Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did Christ include Judas

Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Something happens toyour Language processing, when you become a Mormon Hey Dave NOTICE the "if not" clause. You do not need to answer if you did not answer the preceding in the affirmative. I know this is very tricky. Try it real slow. CPL In fact, the only references to restoring all things I

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
DavidH, Thanks for the response. I'll look forward to explaining myself. I have to go to work now though, so DON'T THINK I'M IGNORING YOU. I'LL BE BACK. BILL - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:24 PM Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
Thanks for clearing that up Judy - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:34 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did Christ include Judas in his

Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days

2004-03-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:32:37 -0800 Charles Perry Locke wrote: The RCC needed reformation because it was broken, not missing. Plus, as several have told you, there always

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Because there is no salvation for angels. I covered this in a post a few months back. I am sure it is in the TT archives. From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:54:33 -0800 Charles

Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:00:20 -0800 Charles Perry Locke wrote: DaveH, no one conclusively knows who wrote Hebrews. DAVEH: That has been previously

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/10/2004 10:26:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: then we become one with them as we become one with their purpose. Actually, I we believe we become "one with them" because of shared existence -- God becomes a part of us through indwelling and, hence, we

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2004 10:26:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: then we become one with them as we become one with their purpose. Actually, I we believe we become "one with them" because of shared existence -- God

Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days

2004-03-11 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: Something happens toyour Language processing, when you become a Mormon Hey Dave NOTICE the "if not" clause. You do not need to answer if you did not answer the preceding in the affirmative. I know this is very tricky. Try it real slow. DAVEH: I guess I'm pretty

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: HE WAS A DEVIL! Jesus told us so. Where do Devils go? DAVEH: I think we understand that. The question I had is at which point did he become a devil? Was he such before Jesus called and ordained him? Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and

[TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/10/2004 10:26:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: then we become one with them as we become one with their purpose. John: Actually, I we believe we become "one with them" because of shared existence -- God becomes a part of

[TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only thing that sends Judas to hell, then, is Judas, if indeed Judas finally rejected Jesus Christ. That's how I read it. Bill John: Looks like a tie. Bill is right. We individually bear the responsiblities for our sins. Our demise, if

[TruthTalk] The value of history

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] DavidM says He is the light that lighteth every man who comes into the world, even those who have never read the Bible. Jesus Christ is found in history as well as in the Bible. Thanks Judy for pointing out. jt: By what authority do yousay Jesus Christ is

Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: I want to see what you folks believe too. DAVEH: From the way your respond to my questions and answers, that seems a very surprising comment, Kevin. From my perspective, it seems you are more intent on denigrating my beliefs than finding out what they really entail.

Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: The fact that you would even think such a thing as "too inferior" is a sad commentary on Mormonism. I find the LDS attitude of worthiness as repulsive. Thereis a select crowd who are "worthy" to enter the temple. Many of the problems of full disclosure of LDS

[TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]Kevin Deegan wrote:HE WAS A DEVIL! Jesus told us so. Where do Devils go? jt: They go to spend eternity with the one they serve. DAVEH: I think we understand that. The question I had is at which point did he become a devil? Was he such before Jesus called and

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
My fellow TTers, I don't think it is as cut and dried as some of you are suggesting. I am aware of what was said concerning Judas. I believe those Words ask of us an interpretive task: How do we reconcile the limited things we know about the Judas eventwith the greater narrative of Christ?

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 12:36:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..From this, cannot one conclude that those filled with the Holy Spirit of God are OF GOD, and capable of seeing God? Do you disagree, John? Hello DAVEL : I am not sure why this is important to you.

Re: [TruthTalk] Mel Gibson's Movie

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 1:54:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've actually seen the movie and I agree with Perry The only thing I saw while viewing the movie was my own worthlessness. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
My fellow TTers, I don't think it is as cut and dried as some of you are suggesting. I am aware of what was said concerning Judas. I believe those Words ask of us an interpretive task: How do we reconcile the limited things we know about the Judas eventwith the greater narrative of Christ?

[TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Yes, Arius was a heretic. Yet, the devil (YHVH rebuke him) is so clever. The Emperor Constantine (pontifus maximus of the Babylonian Mystery Religion) set up the "debate" at Nicaea. He brought Arius and his supporters to

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:57:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying that 'we become a part of God' as in God is the ocean and we are one drop judyt: there is absolutely nothing new age about me, including my clothing. In my post I referred to Spirit

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:57:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Judas did confess to the sanhedrin that he had betrayed 'innocent blood' and he tried to give back the 30pcs of silver It wasn't enough. He should have dealt with God. Too early to go to the throne of

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 8:12:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj:[TruthTalk] Arius the heretic? Date:3/11/2004 8:12:09 AM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Barr) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \o/

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Here we go, DavidL. The notion or claim that there is a stone with the ten commandments somewhere in Mexico was in this guys email. John That was NEW Mexico, John. How can you guys arrive at any Truth at all when you do

[TruthTalk] Mel Gibson's Movie

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've actually seen the movie and I agree with Perry John: The only thing I saw while viewing the movie was my own worthlessness. jt: I've read that this is a commonresponseand this surprises me since so many evangelicals and other

[TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] My fellow TTers, I don't think it is as cut and dried as some of you are suggesting. I am aware of what was said concerning Judas. I believe those Words ask of us an interpretive task: How do we reconcile the limited things we know about the Judas

[TruthTalk] GILLES GORED BY BULL-DIKE IN BEANTOWN BROUHAHA

2004-03-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
SAINTS ALIVE: EMERGENCY INTERRUPTION: A FRIEND OF DAVID MILLER AND YOUR NEW MEMBER, J.D., THE 5 FT., 270 LB. BUTTER-BALL FROM CALIF., CALLED ME OUT OF BED TO ANNOUNCE THAT I SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CONTACT MILLER AND J.D. SMITHSON WITH THIS ANNOUNCEMENT, AND I COULD ONLY THINK OF THIS VENUE. JIM

[TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying that 'we become a part of God' as in God is the ocean and we are one drop John:judyt: there is absolutely nothing new age about me, including my clothing. In my post I referred to Spirit indwelling. That is how it happens,

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
That's interesting, Chris. Have you read Aphanasia's "The Incarnation"? - Original Message - From: Chris Barr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:09 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic? \o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Bill in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Haven't read all of it but very familiar with it. Look, the devil (YHVH rebuke him) began muddying up the water about as soon as Genesis 3:15 left the mouth of The Almighty. Only ten verses later the woman who had been

Re: [TruthTalk] GILLES GORED BY BULL-DIKE IN BEANTOWN BROUHAHA

2004-03-11 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 3/11/2004 1:07:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Jim in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! Thanks for the heads up. I knew about the foul workings of Miller's heart but not Smithson. Question now is are YOU ready to enter

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you referring to the oriental origin of such beliefs?"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's interesting, Chris. Have you read Aphanasia's "The Incarnation"? - Original Message - From: Chris Barr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:09 AM Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
And you are the carrier of all truth All us heretics need to come to you to get straight on our trinity doctrine?Chris Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Here we go, DavidL. The notion or claim that there is a stone with the ten

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Did I miss the testimony of how you are becoming a christian? MaybeI overlooked it."Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My fellow TTers, I don't think it is as cut and dried as some of you are suggesting. I am aware of what was said concerning Judas. I believe those Words ask of us an

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Well Judy you know how those that are headed there always want to remodel first.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] My fellow TTers, I don't think it is as cut and dried as some of you are suggesting. I am aware of what was said concerning Judas. I

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
He was A devil who became THE Devil when Satan entered into him.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]Kevin Deegan wrote:HE WAS A DEVIL! Jesus told us so. Where do Devils go? jt: They go to spend eternity with the one they serve. DAVEH: I think we understand that.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
OH NO Here comes the godHOOD angle !Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2004 10:26:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: then we become one with them as we become one with their purpose. Actually, I we believe we become "one with them"

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Kevin et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan Sent: 03/11/2004 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic? And you are the carrier of all truth All us heretics need to come to you to get straight

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Hey DaveH, question. Why do LDS always do this? Instead of stating what you believe, that this may be associated with becoming a god. LDS seem to always ask a question (without revealing the destination doctrine) to get further commitment or better yet a agreement on some point. Sort of like

Re: [TruthTalk] GILLES GORED BY BULL-DIKE IN BEANTOWN BROUHAHA

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings again Jim in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! "Thou art not far fromThe Kingdom". Ahava b' YahShua (Love in The SAVIOUR) Baruch YHVH, ChrisBarr a servant of YHVH - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-11 Thread elextech
The ancient people were great seafarers, much better than current history texts indicate. In America alone, people have found ancient Celtic ogum script, Viking writings, and various others which I can't remember. My point is that, even if there is a monolith (megalith?) with the ten

Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days

2004-03-11 Thread elextech
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:32:37 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: What I am trying to do is find out why the early Reformers did not claim the RCC folks had apostasies instead of just suggesting their doctrines were broken. In my sometimes humble opinion, they probably

Re: [TruthTalk] Mel Gibson's Movie

2004-03-11 Thread elextech
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 04:52:23 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have no way of knowing exactly how the scourging took place or of Christs reaction to it.. nor do we know how he appeared after the flesh. We have some interesting hints: Is 50:6 (NIV) I offered my back

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread elextech
It's easier to ask a question to get the other guy to make a statement. Once he's made a statement, he can be made to feel as if he needs to defend it as is against all attacks. In other words, it's easier to make the other guy take a chance and stick his neck out, then attack him. After he

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is also a way to lead people into your way of thinking without revealing or disclosing your beliefs until they are relocated to the new position. It seems a little sneaky.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's easier to ask a question to get the other guy to make astatement. Once he's made a statement,

Re: [TruthTalk] Remember the seven sons of Sceva ...

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Who says I am not rooted and grounded? Do you have #ROOT? Are you a SA?Chris Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings again Kevin in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey DaveH, question. Why do LDS always do this? Instead of stating

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
What is his number I will call himChris Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings Kevin et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan Sent: 03/11/2004 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic? And you are the carrier

Re: [TruthTalk] Remember the seven sons of Sceva ...

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings yet again Kevin in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who says I am not rooted and grounded? The Ruach ha Kadosh. Do you have #ROOT? What is #ROOT? Are you a SA? Well, as a young man I remember the Mexican kids

Re: [TruthTalk] Mel Gibson's Movie

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is true that he was beaten beyond recognition. I have to wonder what are the chances of the character in the movie having his RIGHT eye closed. 50/50? What is with all the occult signs in this pic? Is this the IDOL SHEPPARD? Zechariah 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock!

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings vincent et al in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Good thinking! Not too many years ago an Oxford researcher discovered cocaine in ancient mummies. The researcher was scoffed at. Egyptian researchers looked into other mummies to disprove the cocaine notion.

Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
OK smarty pants... through the ... um person LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:32:37 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: DAVEH: What I am trying to do is find out why the early Reformers did not claim the RCC folks had apostasies instead of just suggesting their

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.irr.org/mit/smithson.html synopsis of#8 Reports of findings of ancient egyptian, Hebrew etc. have frequently appeared in news accounts, books NONE of these claims has stood up to inspection There are NO Inscriptions of any Old world form in the USexcepting Norse rune stones in Greenland

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
Are you asking me, Kevin, or Chris Barr? Athanasius spent his time in Alexandria prior to Nicea. Bill Taylor - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: How many times do I have to say God was the Author of all 66 books of the HOLY BIBLE DAVEH: OK Kevin. If that is the most you are willing to say about it, I will quit pestering you. So, Kevin, does this mean that you do not believe that the 1611 KJV is the inerrant and

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Smithsonian, eh? If there's one thing that sticks out like a VERY sore thumb in all my years of investigative research, it is that the "recognized" authorities are not nearly so smart OR reputable as they are made out to

RE: [TruthTalk] The value of history

2004-03-11 Thread David Miller
Dear Kevin and Judy, We are having problems communicating because of two faulty assumptions. Following are two assumptions that need to be examined: 1. Does God's Word equal The Bible? My answer: No. The Bible is God's Word, but God's Word is not the Bible. God's Word includes much more

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
More on the Mich Relics http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1497992 (Grand Rapids-AP, October 27, 2003, 5:00 a.m.) Some of the now-debunked Michigan Relics, once considered by some influential Mormons as evidence of the church's connection to a Near Eastern culture in ancient America, have

RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you trying to help out here? You know I am KJV all the way The others come from the same corrupt mss that the New World Tx (JW) That is why for instance the NIV is so in agreement with the NWTI believe the word of God is perfect, inerrant, and alive as the book says. Every jot title! David

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
to whomever Are you referring to the oriental origin of such beliefs?"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you asking me, Kevin, or Chris Barr? Athanasius spent his time in Alexandria prior to Nicea. Bill Taylor - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is a CONSPIRACY, that back room is filled with aliens also. NO Kevin does not say. The statement from the Smithsonian clearly says there are NO old world inscriptions anywhere in the new world. It is hidden in a back room? Here take the virtual tour maybe you can find it

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
I guess I am not following you, Kevin. To what beliefs are you referring? Bill Taylor - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic? to whomever Are

RE: [TruthTalk] The value of history

2004-03-11 Thread David Miller
DavidM says He is the light that lighteth every man who comes into the world, even those who have never read the Bible. Jesus Christ is found in history as well as in the Bible. Kevin wrote: The thought of Christ being here or there is chilling to me. Judy wrote: It's chilling to me also

Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 9:13:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That was NEW Mexico, John. How can you guys arrive at any Truth at all when you do not even relate simple facts accurately Got it. New Mexico. And what verification did you give for this discovery? John

RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: Are you trying to help out here? You know I am KJV all the way I'm trying to understand what you believe. There are different kinds of KJV guys. Are you 1611 KJV? Do you believe that every jot and tittle of the 1611 KJV is God's perfect and inerrant Word? Or do you believe

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 10:39:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only way humans can perhaps change the destiny provided them in Christ's finished and perfected work, is to finally refuse their adoption in Christ. This I very much believe. An absolutely great

[TruthTalk] CONSPIRACY, Kevin?!?!?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Oh, Kevin, that is SO trite. Look, it's no skin off my nose if you want to remain ignorant. If you don't think that the prince and power of the air is having a hey day with hiding info and disseminating disinformation,

J.D. -- Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings J.D. in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Got it. New Mexico. And what verification did you give for this discovery? I didn't yet. It's a lot more complicated than keeping straight the difference between the state of New Mexico and a completely other and

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 8:58:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying that 'we become a part of God' as in God is the ocean and we are one drop We have received the same glory that was given to Christ for

Re: J.D. -- Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 4:12:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You sure you're up to it? Give it a shot, funny boy. Isn't it funny, though, that truth is truth whether YOU know it or have verification about it or not? Works the same for false teachings. Pretty

Re: J.D. -- Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings again J.D. in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! All good things come to those who wait. Besides, what's the big deal about proof of Hebrew existence in the early Western Hemisphere to someone who doesn't even really know who the Hebrew Messiah is or what He

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
Thanks John, You missed an absolutely fascinating discussion on this very topic a few days ago. Maybe you can pick it up on TT's webpage. Anyway, thanks again. Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004

Re: J.D. -- Re: [TruthTalk] Arius the heretic?

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 4:27:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides, what's the big deal about proof of Hebrew existence in the early Western Hemisphere to someone who doesn't even really know who the Hebrew Messiah is or what He taught? You talking about me or

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Wm. Taylor
Are you interested, Kevin, or are you up to something else? Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone Did I miss the testimony of how you

Re: [TruthTalk] Mel Gibson's Movie

2004-03-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/11/2004 8:48:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've actually seen the movie and I agree with Perry judeyt: I intend on answering this but later this evening. It is an important question and I want to give it as good an answer

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Go ahead just wondering. I don't bite."Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you interested, Kevin, or are you up to something else? Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set

Re: [TruthTalk] The value of history

2004-03-11 Thread Terry Clifton
You might want to rethink this David. A pillar is used to hold something up. It "upholds". In my opinion, this verse means that the church upholds the truth contained in the Word. It does not establish the Word. It simply lives and teaches what the scriptures reveal through

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Doesn't the Bible say express image of his PERSON?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/11/2004 8:58:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying that 'we become a part of God' as in God is the ocean and we are one

RE: [TruthTalk] The value of history

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Do you have "LIGHT" based experiences? David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DavidM says He is the light that lighteth every man who comes into the world, even those who have never read the Bible. Jesus Christ is found in history as well as in the Bible.Kevin wrote: The thought of Christ being

RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
DavidM says The problem here is that when you read in the Bible, "the Word" or "the Word of God," you automatically think it is talking about the Bible. Itis not. The Bible did not even exist when these words were writtendown. I said: How about the BIBLE word "scripture" for those fanatics out

RE: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
So now you are trying to understand whatI believe too. I am gonna have a seminar for you DaveHDavid Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Are you trying to help out here? You know I am KJV all the wayI'm trying to understand what you believe. There are different kinds of KJV guys. Are you

Re: [TruthTalk] CONSPIRACY, Kevin?!?!?

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Jesus loves you have a nice dayChris Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \o/ !HALALUYah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!! Oh, Kevin, that is SO trite. Look, it's no skin off my nose if you want to remain ignorant. If you don't think that the prince and power of the air is having

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