Hi Dave: Why not start small? Have you ever spoken with a 'convert'?
(Someone who converted FROM Mormonism TO Christianity - note that I do not
believe them to be identical) If you have then, will you recount that
conversation for us?
Lance
- Original Message -
From: Dave Hansen
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: Note to Fellow TTers: Perry is allowing me to return to TT
without restriction. Due to my recent rather harsh treatment of him
as he performed his Moderator duties, I owe him an apology for showing
less than the respect he deserved as our Moderator, and to you
Perry, thanks for taking the time. I now understand better how you are
reading it, and your reason for why the switch from ye to they and them is
reasonable, although I would have expected something more along the lines of
those of you for clarity's sake.
You asked which of us have been led
Perry, I forgot to ask you again to address the situation of baptism in
regards to the eleven. Do you think they needed to be baptized again /
first time / what? Explain your perception of when they were baptized in
the context of, he who believes and is baptized...
Also, isn't the context
DAVEH: I had an old girlfriend that left the Church some 30 years ago
or so. We had more than one conversation, but don't remember many of
the details other than her reasons had more to do with some of the
people she knew in the Church (I wasn't a part of the problemif
that is what you
DAVEH: Thank you, Terry! I appreciate your attitude.
Terry Clifton wrote:
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Good mornin, Dave.
God loves you, and because God loves you, I love you.
Welcome back.
Terry
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Dave Hansen
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JD wrote:
You must know that I do not think I am
wrong in anything that I share. That is
assurance.
This is not assurance in the spiritual and Biblical sense of the word. This
is presumption, a counterfeit of faith. I sincerely doubt that anyone has
true faith that they are right in
David,
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perry, thanks for taking the time. I now understand better how you are
reading it, and your reason for why the switch from ye to they and them is
reasonable, although I would have expected something more along the lines
of
those of you for
behave yer
beautiful self Bro :) thx for the catalog! l,g
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:29:06 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Note to Fellow TTers: Perry is allowing me to
return to TT ||
Dave, thanks for reminding me. I intended to reply to those questions, but
overlooked them in the post.
I have no reason to believe that the 11 had been baptised prior to Jesus'
appearance to them. I have not read in scripture that any of them were. Of
course, there are different types of
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD wrote: You must know that I do not think I am wrong in anything that I share. That is assurance. This is not assurance in the spiritual and Biblical sense of the word. This is presumption, a
Perry wrote:
I have no reason to believe that the 11
had been baptised prior to Jesus'
appearance to them.
John 3:25-26
(25) Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the
Jews about purifying.
(26) And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perry wrote:
I have no reason to believe that the 11 had been baptised prior to
Jesus' appearance to them.
John 3:25-26
(25) Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the
Jews about purifying.
(26) And they came unto John, and said
I don't see that I was wrong--I was simply saying that
there are other Christians besides myself who considered the possibility of
tremendous blood loss in Gethsemane.
I was also suggesting that perhaps my post as a Mormon
was not being given the same due consideration it might have been
With paerry's permission, I would appreciate it if you would
list the characteristics descriptive of Jesus in Mormon scripture --
not including the KJ Mormon bible. Just your scriptures.
Speak as a Mormon, please and not with merely personal conviction.
Thanks,
jd
Blainerb: Listing
jd wrote:
How many Christians have believed and been baptized but have
not seen anyof these signs follow them?
Again, we either have to conclude that theconcept of faith
as taught by Jesus is something greater than the popular
conceptof it, or that Jesus was bearing false
testimony
In a message dated 12/21/2005 9:22:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Excuse me, but were
you actually under the impression that your opinion matters to me???
iz
Blainer: Ha Ha! That's Iz, huh?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
In a message dated 12/22/2005 4:41:28 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Congratulations,
Blaine.
So you are not the first to be wrong. iz
cd: Yes amen-Truth is
having her perfect way Blain.
Blainerb: Opinions . . .
One of her best moments, too !!
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 12/21/2005 9:22:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Excuse me, but were you actually under the impression that your opinion matters to me??? iz
In a message dated 12/22/2005 5:04:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am always happy to publish the great
truths of Mormonism on TT or anywhere. :)
Blainerb
cd: Then please tell us of this Pay-Lay-Ale
ceremony
Blainerb:Pe le El--from the language of
The writer below is not me.
1. He believes the popular view of faith is the incorrect view -- among Christians!!! proving himself totally out of touch with the Christian community who shares a deeply held belief in the very kind of faith this person defines.
2. this line "that Jesus was
true; JCdoesn't see
Mormans as Christians--neither do I, Bro
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:49:48 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As Jesus said to Joseph Smith, concerning the
Christians of that day, "They teach for doctrines the
commandments of men, having a form of Godliness, but denying
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perry wrote: Now, my question to you...how do I determine if it was the Holy Spirit giving me the understanding, or if it was all in my head? If you have to ask, then I suspect it was all just in
Blainerb:Pe le El--from the language of Adam and Eve--sacred words that pertain specifically to the ceremony, so cannot discuss further. Sorry--
You lost me on this one. are you saying that Mormonism knows the language spoken by A and E?
G
I want a bat. Small diameter grip. Signiture "Pops-- 2006" Hickory ???
Long and light -- is there such a thing?
jd
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
true; JCdoesn't see Mormans as Christians--neither do I, Bro
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:49:48 EST
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:28:02 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perry wrote: Now, my
question to you...how do I determine if it was the Holy Spirit
giving me the
Maple or ash,
Bro--hickory is way too heavy and Blaine bein' light on his feet and lightheaded
too probably runs faster than youthink
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:36:27 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
G
I want a bat. Small diameter grip. Signiture
"Pops-- 2006" Hickory ???
Long
Let's do ahs. Get me a price and I will exchange cash card info.
Also -- I think you misundstand the purpose for my purchase (lol -- really)
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maple or ash, Bro--hickory is way too heavy and Blaine bein' light on his feet
Perhaps I should have attached my request to a Miller post - just to enhance the impact of the rising myth.
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maple or ash, Bro--hickory is way too heavy and Blaine bein' light on his feet and lightheaded too probably runs
ok--i was hopin'
maybe BB'd buy a bat too--to defend his honor as a devotee of JS to whom JC so
wisely spaketh..say, do youknow why JC doesn'tspeak to DavidM partic
so wisely?
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 06:56:09 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let's do ahs. Get me a price and I will exchange
yeh..i see yer
point, Pastor..and though similarly lightheaded as BB,DavidM may not run
quiteas fast
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 07:00:34 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps I should have attached my request to a Miller post -
just to enhance the impact of the rising myth.
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