[TV orNotTV] NFL Post-Season Flex

[Ben Scripps]

Sunday's Steelers at Buffalo game gets delayed to Monday at 4:30 (CBS) thanks 
to the massive winter storm pummeling the region:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/jan/13/pittsburgh-steelers-buffalo-bills-game-postponed-winter-storm
 


(Here in Michigan, we're still digging out from a foot of snow overnight, with 
50+ mph winds and more snow predicted for later today.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

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Nope--"@fter" is a full hour.

> On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on 
> Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume 
> either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep 
> repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
> 
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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Re: [TV orNotTV] J! contestants fail to recognize Led Zeppelin... X reacts

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The second to last clue in my first game was a map which popped up on the 
screen; I buzzed, but had difficulty making out the details enough to respond 
correctly.  (Also, my brain didn't work correctly, but it's much easier to 
blame technology.)

The only other problem I had with the monitor was when a picture clue came up 
and Alex read the clue, but nothing ever showed up on the screen.  They had to 
stop tape and reload a new clue for us.

BTW, when they have video clues of celebrities reading the clue, the 
appropriate box on the game board displays about the last half or so of the 
text of the clue.



> On Dec 2, 2023, at 1:24 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> The failure to identify Garth Brooks is also mentioned in the article that 
> Bob linked.
> 
> I've heard some "Jeopardy!" contestants say (or complain) that they can't see 
> the video clues as well as the home viewers, since they're looking across the 
> stage at monitors on either side of the game board.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
>> 
>> I watch Jeopardy! clips on TikTok and no contestant could identify Garth 
>> Brooks in a $200 clue.
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 7:01 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>> mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> Not sure that the complete societal failure referenced in the URL is the 
>> Triple Stumper (or whatever the unofficial name for that is called) on the 
>> Zep, given the continued existence of 'X'
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 06:51:58 PM PST, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>> mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.fox5ny.com/news/jeopardy-fans-dumbfounded-when-contestants-cant-recognize-legendary-rockers-a-complete-societal-failure
>>  
>> 
>>  (link)
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox's Mid-Season

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Once or twice a season, I'll drop in for an episode.  I typically go in with 
the same expectations I have with SNL: tired, unoriginal, past its prime, 
treading water.  Unlike SNL, I usually come out thinking it was better than I 
expected, but still nothing I need to have back in my life on a weekly basis.


> On Nov 22, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone in this group still watching new episodes of The Simpsons? I’ve 
> always liked the show, but I feel like I’ve watched enough of it. On rare 
> occasions, I’ll dig back into the “classic” episodes from the first decade or 
> so, but I don’t think I’m missing much if I choose to not watch let alone not 
> rewatch anything from the last 15 or so years. I think the only new episode 
> I’ve seen in the last decade was the Futurama crossover. 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 2:54 PM Jim Ellwanger  > wrote:
> “The Simpsons” has already been airing new episodes this season, so that’s 
> not really a season premiere, more like “a return after ‘Grimsburg’ has been 
> in its regular time slot for a while.”
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 10:49 AM, Tom Wolper > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> I was a bit thrown by no mention of The Simpsons so I went to the Fox press 
>> release to see what was going on. The new season will premiere on February 
>> 18.
>> 
>> https://www.foxflash.com/releases/view/fox-announces-premiere-dates-for-new-and-returning-series-to-launch-winter-2024
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:20 PM Mark Jeffries > > wrote:
>> It always says something when there's only one night of all-live action 
>> scripted programming on the schedule and it won't be until March.
>> 
>> Meanwhile, according to Too Much TV, Fox's post-strikes schedule begins 
>> similar to the current schedule on Tues. Jan. 2 with the new game show from 
>> "Voice" creator John DeMol "The Floor," hosted by Rob Lowe and shot in 
>> Ireland, following "Name That Tune." The next night, it's a new season of "I 
>> Can See Your Voice" followed by "We Are Family," a new 
>> guess-the-singing-celebrity-relative show hosted by Anthony Anderson and 
>> with his mother Doris Bowman, who helped to ruin the ABC reboot of "To Tell 
>> the Truth."
>> 
>> On Sun. Jan. 7 coming out of the NFL at 8 p.m. (but against SNF and the 
>> Golden Globes) will be the premiere of the Jon Hamm cartoon "Grimsberg" 
>> (already renewed for a second season, produced in-house with animation by 
>> Fox-owned Bento Box) and a new season of "The Great North" at 9:30 after 
>> "Krapopolis" and "Bob's Burgers." However, the second episodes will not air 
>> until after the Super Bowl, with "Great North" at 9 and "Grimsberg" at 9:30.
>> 
>> On Mon. Jan. 22, the "TMZ Investigates" docuseries (TMZ now owned by Fox) 
>> that's been airing off and on in prime time gets a weekly slot, followed by 
>> the "America's Most Wanted" reboot. On Thursdays starting Feb. 1, "Gordon 
>> Ramsay's Next Level Chef" (shot in Ireland this year) will air followed by 
>> the bucolic dating show "Farmer Wants a Wife" ("Chef"'s premiere will come 
>> out of the NFC championship on Sun. Jan. 28).
>> 
>> And finally,  on Tues. Mar. 5 comes that one night of live-action scripted 
>> with the season premieres of "Cleaning Lady" and "Alert," followed the next 
>> night by the season premiere of "Masked Singer" (with Rita Ora filling in on 
>> the panel for Nicole Scherzinger while she's playing Nora Desmond in the 
>> "Sunset Boulevard" revival on the West End), followed by a new season of 
>> "Animal Control" (a show that must have enough Canadian content to air on 
>> the CBC in prime time, on a network that the Canadian government generally 
>> does not allow to air U.S. shows in prime time) and the biggest 
>> surprise--the moving of "Family Guy" out of the Sunday Animation Domination 
>> block, which may be an indication that the contract with Disney is about to 
>> run out, Fox is not renewing it and the show is either going to end or move 
>> to ABC or Hulu.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: No Bull: Richard Moll dead at 80

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I’ve got Ellen Foley on line 1…On Oct 27, 2023, at 8:03 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV  wrote:Yup.BBrad Beam, Oct 27th:This leaves Dan and Roz, right?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/richard-moll-dead-night-court-bull-1235630482/



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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Only" fans of quiz shows

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Nitpicky, but the connecting wall is actually the penultimate round; th y ndw 
th th m ssn gvwls rnd.

I'd always wondered what an American version of OC would be like.  Today's 
puzzle took me all of two minutes to solve with no mistakes, and the bulk of 
that time was spent in an ultimately futile search for the red herrings that 
make the original so challenging and enjoyable.  


> On Jun 15, 2023, at 7:36 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> 
> The NY Times has just launched a "new" puzzle called "Connections". Nothing 
> to do with the old James Burke series of yesteryear (which I loved), but 
> others have noted that it seems to be extraordinarily similar to the final 
> round of the UK quiz show "Only Connect"
> 
> The "new" game: https://www.nytimes.com/games/connections 
> 
> Deadline story including a Tweet from host Victoria Coren Mitchell: 
> https://deadline.com/2023/06/bbc-victoria-coren-mitchell-accuses-new-york-times-clone-only-connect-1235417841/
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:59 AM Brad Beam  > wrote:
> As part of The Ringer’s series of articles commemorating the BBC’s 
> centennial, Claire McNear does a deep dive on transatlantic quiz cultures via 
> “Only Connect.”
> 
> https://www.theringer.com/tv/2022/10/21/23415489/only-connect-bbc-two-hardest-quiz-show
>  
> 
>  
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> _   _
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS Fall Annotated (Maybe)

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> On May 10, 2023, at 4:39 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> 10:00--ELSBETH--Carrie Preston's attorney character from "The Good Wife/Good 
> Fight" moves to New York from Chicago to offer her unique observations to the 
> NYPD.  The Kings wrote the pilot and will be involved, although no idea if 
> they're showrunners.

>From the CBS pee-arr: "Robert King, Michelle King, Liz Glotzer and Jonathan 
>Tolins are executive producers. Tolins will serve as showrunner. Robert King 
>directed the pilot from a script he wrote with Michelle King."

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Inside Jeopardy podcast

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On Oct 11, 2022, at 6:02 AM, JW  wrote:
> 
> I'll leave it to those of you who've been there to tell me how much producers 
> discourage regular contestants from making comments

As I recall, they didn't really say anything either way about it.  Looking back 
at my notes, the only real guidance they gave us in my taping session in terms 
of responses (aside from the technicalities like dropping definite articles) 
was to be economical with words; don't say "Alex, I'd like to take 'Academy 
Award Winning Actresses of the 1980s' for two thousand, please" when "Actresses 
for two" works just as well but saves time. And saved time means more game 
play.  

The producers may or may not like it, but based on the generic promo they put 
out for my week of shows, their editors sure do; I think every goofy little 
thing I did made it into that :30 promo.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's carriage-dispute time again... ya sh*ts!

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Anndd...they're back.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/dish-network-announces-disney-espn-channels-restored-network-following-contract-dispute

> On Oct 1, 2022, at 9:48 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Mouse, in all its forms, is off Dish and Sling. The dispute had been 
> brewing since the Fox deal closed, when questions arose over FX and NatGeo 
> carriage...
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/abc-espn-fx-pulled-dish-sling-carriage-dispute-disney-1235231292/
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>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Greatest game show on Earth" returns to Britain, on The Beeb

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I shudder to think what would replace the hieroglyphs.

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 12:20 PM, Jon Delfin  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 12:06 PM Adam Bowie  > wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> Now if some US network took on "Only Connect", then I'd be interested!
> 
> I'm pretty sure that interest would vanish before the end of the first 
> episode. (You saw the US "Would I Lie to You?," right?)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Two teams, three networks

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Sort of.  They're preempted for the West Coast and "some Mountain stations".  
Stations have the option of recording the EDT feeds and making good in the 
overnight hours.

> On Apr 25, 2022, at 10:34 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:
> 
> I assume CBS reschedules Y for the left coast, given the noon kickoff.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 22:07, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> But I assume it won't be conflicting with the goings on in Genoa City.
>> 
>> Mark Jeffries
>> spotligh...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 7:22 PM Brad Beam > > wrote:
>> From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Tom Wolper
>> 
>> 
>> >Outside of the NFL it’s getting tough to find major league team sports on 
>> >OTA TV. The NBA has some games on ABC, ABC has a few NHL games between 
>> >early February and the end of the season, and FOX has a baseball game on 
>> >Saturday between late May and early July. Then there will be some playoff 
>> >games aired.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> With the new NHL deal, the complete Stanley Cup Final series will be on 
>> American broadcast television for the first time (even years only; TNT gets 
>> the odds).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Meanwhile, seeing Euro-football scheduled for weekday afternoons on CBS, I 
>> can only imagine how those of us concerned with the goings-on in Oakdale 
>> and/or Springfield would’ve reacted to that being done 15-20 years ago….
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sinclair Ransomware Attack

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Almost a week later and our local Sinclair (WPBN and WGTU, NBC and ABC 
respectively) is still unable to run any local commercials, but they've at 
least gotten some of their programming back.  J! and Wheel reappeared on 
Wednesday night, with local commercial pods filled by their weather camera 
looking at the Mackinac Bridge and news music running in the background.  
(Curiously, in one of the Jeopardy! breaks, they switched off of the camera to 
about five seconds of what appeared to be a political commercial featuring Tim 
Kaine being asked about abortion.  Perhaps there's a Sinclair in Virginia 
that's been feeding copies of their shows up to Traverse City?)

Their newscasts are still limited to a single anchor standing in front of a 
monitor with a static logo in it.  Their weather graphics appear to have been 
either unaffected or fully restored, but those are the only graphics they have. 
 It's pretty pitiful.  And I'm sure market #118 is nowhere near the top of 
Sinclair's list of priorities.

> On Oct 22, 2021, at 11:48 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> Correction. "Jeopardy!" episodes are now distributed the night before. 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 5:54 PM Kevin M.  <mailto:drunkbastar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 5:29 PM Mark Jeffries  <mailto:spotligh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> But Sinclair loves Trump.  Why would Putin love to go after Sinclair?   
> Wouldn't he want to go after, say, Comcast?
> 
> I sense you’re being a bit sarcastic, but Putin will target anything and 
> anyone if it serves his own interest. Could be for money, could be to 
> embarrass another American media empire. 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com <mailto:spotligh...@gmail.com>
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:37 PM Kevin M.  <mailto:drunkbastar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It turns out that when you don’t hold oligarchs accountable for crimes 
> against us as a nation, he and his thugs (note that little if anything 
> nefarious occurs in Russia without Putin either condoning it, ordering it, or 
> profiting from it) will feel emboldened and get progressively worse. 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 4:29 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
> mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> Attacker believed to be Russian gangsters Evil Corp, a researcher familiar 
> with them told CNN... no confirms...
> 
> https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/20/media/sinclair-broadcast-evil-corp-ransomware/index.html
>  
> <https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/20/media/sinclair-broadcast-evil-corp-ransomware/index.html>
>  (link)
> 
> B
> 
> Ben Scripps, in part, Oct 20th:
> I didn't see any mention of this 'round this list; over the weekend, Sinclair 
> was hit by a "cybersecurity incident":
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[TV orNotTV] Sinclair Ransomware Attack

[Ben Scripps]

I didn't see any mention of this 'round this list; over the weekend, Sinclair 
was hit by a "cybersecurity incident":
https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7844a/sinclair-broadcast-disrupted-by-ransomware-attack
 


Whatever it was, it hit our local Sinclair stations really hard.  As near as I 
can tell, they haven't been running *any* local commercial breaks during 
network time since Sunday morning, letting ABC fill with promos and NBC with 
the animated peacock logo they put up during local breaks.  They've apparently 
also been unable to download syndicated programming for air; this week's 
episodes of Wheel and Jeopardy! have been replaced with programming from the 
station's subchannels, and this afternoon's Kelly Clarkson talk show looked a 
lot more like an episode of "Knight Rider", all presumably to avoid sitting in 
black for an hour.  (It also apparently knocked out their phone system, which 
has resulted in *our* phone at work ringing off the hook from people who can't 
call *them* to complain.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] And the new “Jeopardy!” host is rumored to be…

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We also didn't get together as a group after our taping, although we were all 
friendly with one another (I'm still FB friends with eight or nine of the 
people at our taping).  Dad, Angela and I ended up dining at the glamorous 
Olive Garden at the mall across the street from the hotel.

But things were also getting weird that week with Covid--the topic of 
conversation at breakfast the next morning was contingency plans for getting 
home should an air travel shutdown occur--so not getting together didn't really 
seem that odd.


> On Sep 21, 2021, at 6:19 PM, davesik...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The things that most strike me about this is that Amodio seems like a nice 
> enough guy and that the contestants interviewed were all friendly at the 
> hotel and afterward. I tried setting up getting together for drinks after my 
> tape day and got only crickets as a repsonse. I must have been with a group 
> of duds.
> 
> --Dave Sikula
> 
> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 07:32:41 AM PDT, Tom Wolper 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:25 PM Jim Ellwanger  > wrote:
> On Mayim's first show as kinda-sorta permanent host, she managed to cut way 
> back on the chuckling when telling a contestant they were correct. That was 
> my one major complaint about her guest-hosting stint.
> 
> New article from The Ringer about the new Jeopardy season:
> 
> https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/9/20/22679773/matt-amodio-jeopardy-champion-win-streak-mike-richards-host
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ‘CBS This Morning’s’ out-of-the-box hire is a smart one

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Fake mews?

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Just following up that the morning show used a picture of someone else’s cats 
> today. They referred to them using my cat’s names and they said they were my 
> cats; they were not.
> 
> That’s tv news for ya!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:40 AM Kevin M.  > wrote:
> Only because you posted about the CBS Morning Show, I am compelled to mention 
> that  tomorrow morning during Amber Lee’s 6:40am weather segment during the 
> show in Los Angeles, our emotional support kittens Jax & Lego are going to be 
> featured. I’m hoping this will be their springboard to becoming social media 
> influencers, so that my wife and I can retire early and buy a speed boat.
> 
> www.Instagram.com/stackablecats  
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:22 AM Steve Timko  > wrote:
> Take a look at this story from the Poynter Institute 
> https://www.poynter.org/newsletters/2021/cbs-this-mornings-out-of-the-box-hire-is-a-smart-one/
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Morning show hires usually aren’t a reason to rise up and cheer. But ‘CBS 
> This Morning’s’ hiring of NFL star Nate Burleson as a co-host is brilliant.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] An upcoming Jeopardy! guest host

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On Mar 25, 2021, at 4:59 PM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> I do agree with much of the piece, but I disagree with using this to make a 
> point:
> 
>> Those seeking to find fault in his first couple of episodes by looking 
>> closely at his interjecting himself into the gameplay, adding unwanted or 
>> unneeded context after correct answers, will find it.
> 
> Trebek would add frequently add context after contestants' answers (for 
> example, a first name if the contestant had only given a last name), at what 
> seems to me about the same rate that Dr. Oz has been doing it. I suspect what 
> one viewer finds "unwanted or unneeded," another viewer will find to be 
> something that helps them remember, "oh, yeah, it's THAT person."

I'm gonna disagree with you on that one.  I've no problem whatsoever with the 
expansion of a last name only response to first and last names, but it seems to 
me like both Oz and Katie Couric have added more "explainers" in their time--if 
a player rings in and says "Who was Lincoln?", I don't want the host to say 
"That's right--he was at Ford's Theatre seeing 'Our American Cousin' when Booth 
shot him".  I don't recall Trebek doing that very often, and when he did, it 
was usually during Final, where it doesn't really disrupt the rhythm of the 
game.  When I was on, the contestant coordinator flat out told us when 
selecting clues to shorten the category names and values ("Rivers for sixteen" 
instead of "South American Rivers for sixteen hundred") and to not say "please" 
because every second counts when you're playing the game--those little host 
tidbits could literally change the outcome of the game.

One thing I'd really, really like to see is a guest host capable of even a 
moderate understanding of the scoring.  Alex understood the scoring system 
well--you could hear the disapproval in his voice when a player down by $9,000 
in Double would hit a late Daily Double and wager too small ("Just $1200?  
Okay."), and you could hear the approval when a third place player in Final 
would wager just enough to get into a strategic position ("Interesting wager; 
we'll see if it works out").  In tonight's Final, Oz sounded positively 
astonished when the third place player revealed he'd wagered everything, which 
would put him into first place with a correct response.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] How I would fix the Jeopardy tiebreaker

[Ben Scripps]

On my first episode, I finished the DJ! round with $9,400; Megan was in the 
lead with $18,800.  My correct response in FJ! put us into a tie, and if she 
hadn't wagered anything, we would have gone to a tiebreak.  I'm forever 
grateful we didn't, 'cause she owned me on the button all day.

Looking at my contestant agreement, it doesn't appear to specifically exclude 
collusion between players, though there is an "I am aware that it is a Federal 
offense punishable by fine and/or imprisonment for anyone to rig the outcome of 
the Program with the intent to deceive the viewing public" and an "I shall not 
share, or make any agreement or promise to share, any prize or any portion of 
any prize with any other contestant".  It feels like even a mildly-competent 
lawyer could get his client off collusion charges if that was the crux of the 
show's case, but there's also plenty of opportunity throughout to allow the 
show to withhold prize money if you do something they feel is wrong.

Contestants who have yet to tape sit together in the first few rows of the 
audience section stage left.  I can't really speak to what it's like during the 
shows; I was on the first episode we taped that day, so I never got the 
experience of sitting in the audience and being nervous.  (Having lost on the 
Wednesday show, I also never got the experience of lunch in the Sony 
commissary.)  There's some down time in the green room while everyone takes 
turns in the makeup chair and going over which stories go on the card for Alex, 
but you're still within earshot of the contestant coordinators.  The only real 
opportunity to set something up would be in the van on the way to the 
studio--the 2-1/2 mile trip from the hotel to the studio in the rain took, 
rather remarkably, about 20 minutes--but at that point, you don't know anyone, 
and if you're gonna collude with someone, you're gonna need to trust them.  
(And trust that none of the the four or five other people in the van who 
overheard your plotting will tattle to the contestant coordinators.)


On Jan 30, 2021, at 3:28 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:
> 
> There's a possible angle to this issue that didn't come up in the article.  
> Collusion.
> 
> I know that the contestants are kept separated from the host, but how about 
> from each other?
> 
> A recent episode of a podcast I listen to had a guest who'd been on Wheel of 
> Fortune.  She mentioned that a lot of the prep before taping was on ways to 
> cheat.  The contestant wranglers specifically mentioned making sure people 
> didn't agree to play a certain way and split the winnings later.
> 
> Since, according to the article, the J! tiebreaker was prompted in part by 2 
> ties on shows taped the same day, I wouldn't be surprised if someone thought 
> of the possibility.  I really wouldn't be surprised if it was a lawyer who 
> thought about it.
> 
> David
> 
> On Saturday, January 30, 2021, 7:40:54 AM PST, Diner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> And here's why they added the tiebreaker:
> https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/1/23/22245900/jeopardy-tiebreaker-scenario-rules-changes
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ACM Awards overrun question

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On Sep 17, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> Same in Chicago.  Sounds like WUSA was using the overrun as an excuse to run 
> over.

This.  CBS has a long-standing policy under which if live primetime programming 
runs long on a weeknight, Colbert and British Jimmy slip and affiliates are 
given their full 35 minute news window (and usually a little extra to round up 
to the nearest minute).  The timings they sent last night do indeed show a 
revised start time for Colbert of 11:37:00.  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] well, that changes everything

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On Sep 15, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> As a kid, my favorite vinyl record store chain was Music+
> 
> Can we bring that back too, please?

 It's not just Password... 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy! this week

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Public service announcement: about seventeen minutes in, you'll see me do what 
could only generously be referred to as "the Twist".  If you have small 
children, you may want to take them out of the room...

> On Aug 31, 2020, at 8:07 AM, JW  wrote:
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> It looks like the Ben Scripps era will be rerun from Monday-Wednesday.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Blazing Saddles' Gets Disclaimer Treatment at HBO Max

[Ben Scripps]

On Aug 16, 2020, at 11:39 AM, PGage  wrote:
> 
>  BS is not racist

As someone who’s lived with those initials his entire life, and as someone who 
within the past few days was called a racist by a friend for saying Kamala 
Harris wasn’t my first choice for Biden’s running mate but I thought she was 
still a good choice, I’d like to thank you for those four words, even if I am 
taking them out of context... 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[Ben Scripps]

I was in middle school English when Challenger happened; they ended up sending 
us home early that day.

Like Kevin, I slept through the first couple of hours of 9/11.  When I woke up 
around 11, I had a breathless message from a friend telling me to turn on the 
TV because something terrible had happened.  Once the tube warmed up, whatever 
channel I was on was showing the Pentagon, and as I stepped up through the 
channels to get to my station, each channel along the way happened to be either 
on the Pentagon or in-studio anchors, leaving me to think “Well, a plane 
crashing into the Pentagon certainly is tragic, but it’s not that big a deal."  
Then I hit the Home Shopping Channel and saw they’d shut down and knew there 
must be more than what I’d seen.  One of the weirdest days I’ve ever had at 
work.

And Stan, I got the reference as soon as I saw “Texxon”.  Still one of my 
favorite bits of SNL of all time.

> On Jul 23, 2020, at 3:41 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> As I look back, I wasn’t watching TV during any of the big moments.
> 
> Challenger disaster: I was in Catholic school. We were in the habit of 
> watching shuttle launches in the classroom to the point where it had become 
> monotonous, so we didn’t even watch it live. It wasn’t until the principal 
> came into the classroom and told the teacher the turn on the TV that we saw 
> it replayed. However, a camera crew from KABC 7 went to my sister’s high 
> school to get reaction from young people. If anybody has that videotape, 
> please send it my way.
> 
> 9/11: I was working a graveyard shift at a Kinkos-like copy store and had 
> gotten home from work. Maybe an hour after I fell asleep, a friend called me 
> and asked if I was watching. I asked what channel, and he replied “Every 
> channel... we are at war.”
> 
> Colombia disaster: I was in the Peace Corps in an Internet cafe in 
> Kazakhstan. There was undoubtedly a mix of over-bass techno music playing 
> overhead. One stranger walked over to me and patted me on the shoulder and 
> said “I’m sorry” in Russian. A few seconds later another stranger did the 
> same. I didn’t even know why they were offering condolences at that moment.
> 
> Addendum: I recently bought and watched an episode of Kojak on the iTunes 
> Store, specifically because the episode was originally broadcast the exact 
> day and year I was born. If you ever get the chance, do some research and 
> find media from your actual date of birth. There is no way anything remotely 
> resembling that hour of television could be broadcast today. The treatment of 
> women, the portrayals of minorities and drug use... oh my.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:29 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
> mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> Aug 8th 1974, around 9:00pm east... "The Mac Davis Show," whose star was 
> riding the Billboard charts at the time, got its ending cut off when on came 
> whichever anchor (I'm guessing Reasoner) ready to throw it to the White 
> House, where President Nixon would shortly announce his resignation.  (I 
> don't recall being able to watch the moon landing live.)
> 
> B
> 
> daniel anderson, today (7/23):
> I was watching the World Series in 1989 when the Earthquake happened. I can 
> still remember hearing Al Michaels say "I'll tell you what, we're having an 
> earth-" before the feed cut out. I remember ABC airing something else for a 
> few minutes, before Ted Koppel came on form Washington(where he was hosting 
> Nightline).
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ratings: ‘Celebrity Family Feud’ Drops to Season Low, Still Leads ABC to Easy Win

[Ben Scripps]

On Jul 19, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> (sidebar: I know the show knows the wagers going into the FJ clue. Does 
> anyone see, in real-time, what the contestants are writing? I'd have to 
> assume the control room does with a judge in there to confirm a curveball 
> answer)

Yep.  Control room video of the finals of the Ultimate Tournament of Champions, 
from the J! DVD a few years back:
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Ben Scripps]

I never did hear a reason for why the check takes so long, but I don’t think 
it’s to keep us from gabbing spoilers in advance.  I would imagine it has 
something to do with bureaucracy and paperwork and yadda.

The job definitely helped a lot.  As part of my broadcasting major, I had to 
take at least one class in performance, and I’ve been around the business for 
almost a quarter of a century now, so while I wouldn’t say I’m an expert, I’d 
say I’m certainly comfortable.  Apologies again if I’ve told this story here 
before, but my dad and step-mom came out to see the taping, and my dad was 
worried I’d be nervous.  No matter how many times I told him I’d be okay, he 
kept telling me I should go out to our news set and sit in front of the cameras 
with the lights on, just to get used to being under the lights.  After the 
taping was done, he told me that the moment he heard me respond “What is 
Canada, eh?!”, he knew he’d been wrong and that I was perfectly fine.



> On May 21, 2020, at 10:04 AM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> I didn’t realize they don’t pay until after the episodes show; I would have 
> assumed they gave you a check on your way out the door. Is that to enforce 
> your silence until air time?
> 
> We have talked a bit before about how Alex can be a bit of a dick at times, 
> but he clearly liked you. Why not, you were likable, but I think in 
> particular you had the talent of being comfortable and verbal, without 
> threatening his control or the time limits of any interaction. I imagine Alex 
> really doesn’t like contestants who are either so nervous they hardly talk, 
> or so loquacious they take over. Do you think your job helped prepare you to 
> comfortably occupy the short windows for talking on television, or is that 
> just your personality (I suspect I would be weirdly and obnoxiously both too 
> cryptically nervous and too controllingly Over-talking). 
> 
> Congratulations again on a very successful, entertaining and engaging run. 
> Your three games explored almost the full range of the Jeopardy experience, 
> as Alex kind of foreshadowed in his introduction last night. To win a good 
> chunk of change, show off your J-Skills and schmooze with Alex is a dream 
> come true I’m sure, and well deserved.
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:58 AM Ben Scripps  <mailto:b...@benscripps.com>> wrote:
> There’s a delay between your last episode’s air date and when you actually 
> get the check, so getting the finances sorted for a trip this year was never 
> really in the cards.  
> 
> But that’s the nice thing about the Proms; they seem to be able to survive 
> and thrive from year to year…:-) 
>  
> 
>> On May 20, 2020, at 4:04 AM, Adam Bowie > <mailto:a...@adambowie.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never been to The Last Night of the Proms, but I have been to other 
>> Proms and they're always good fun. 
>> 
>> I fear that the Last Night... trip will have to wait until at least 2021. 
>> The BBC may not have confirmed it yet, but there's no way the Proms will be 
>> going ahead in their usual guise. 
>> 
>> But great fun watching - and cheers Jim, once again, for sharing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:40 AM John Edwards > <mailto:jedward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> The BBC won't announce a decision on that until the end of the month. 
>> (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/384LXFP6B13d4q2GnLx8HGy/an-update-on-the-2020-proms
>>  
>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/384LXFP6B13d4q2GnLx8HGy/an-update-on-the-2020-proms>)
>>  The UK finally got around to imposing a two-week quarantine on incoming 
>> visitors, so unless that doesn't go long, the Last Night of the Proms would 
>> become the Last Fortnight of the Proms. :-)
>> 
>> I was supposed to go over in early August for a cricket match, and I'm 
>> waiting for confirmation that it is officially off. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 1:53 AM PGage > <mailto:pga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Win or lose in Game 2, I guess the first question for Ben is, are you going 
>> to try to go to the last night of The Proms? Are they even having it this 
>> year 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:40 PM Jim Ellwanger > <mailto:train...@ellwanger.tv>> wrote:
>> Here is Tuesday's show:
>> 
>> http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200519.mp4 
>> <http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200519.mp4>
>> 
>> (As a bonus, it begins with the Ben-centric episodic promo, which I managed 
>> to capture during "World News Tonight.")
>> 
>> 
>> > On May 18, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Jim Ellwanger >

Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Ben Scripps]

When they called me, I actually had a two-part phone call; after I confirmed my 
station isn’t a J! affiliate, the contestant coordinator said she still needed 
to run it past her boss to make sure I was good.  So I got the call, then had 
to sit on that information for about four hours waiting to hear if I’d be 
approved or shot down.

We haven’t promoted on-air at my station at all; the station that carries it in 
my market is an NBC affil, and there isn’t really anything on NBC I watch, so I 
haven’t seen if they’ve done anything local.  I know they ran the promo Sony 
produced which featured me heavily, but I haven’t heard anything directly from 
them.  I did do a radio interview with my old friend from college (we’re both 
game show nerds), the local paper did a front-page story on me (small town 
America…), but that’s it so far.  I’ve watched each episode at work with the 
few co-workers in the building and on a Zoom meeting with much of the remaining 
staff at home.  (BTW, here’s the video from Final on night #1: 
http://www.benscripps.com/transfer/reax.mp4 
 )

As for the $1,042—the thousand part was ‘cause I had some wiggle room for 
wagering and didn’t want to be one of those people who wagers nothing.  The $42 
was a pure call-out to “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”.



> On May 21, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Brad Beam > > wrote:
>> 
>> -Does your station air “Jeopardy!”?
> 
> I can answer this part based on the paperwork I've filled out every time I've 
> tried out for the show -- if he worked for a station that aired "Jeopardy!", 
> he would have been ineligible.
> 
> Sorry I don't have Wednesday's episode to share with the list, but I had some 
> apparent reception problems that are causing my DVR software to not be able 
> to export a complete file.
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Ben Scripps]

There’s a delay between your last episode’s air date and when you actually get 
the check, so getting the finances sorted for a trip this year was never really 
in the cards.  

But that’s the nice thing about the Proms; they seem to be able to survive and 
thrive from year to year…:-) 
 

> On May 20, 2020, at 4:04 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> 
> I've never been to The Last Night of the Proms, but I have been to other 
> Proms and they're always good fun. 
> 
> I fear that the Last Night... trip will have to wait until at least 2021. The 
> BBC may not have confirmed it yet, but there's no way the Proms will be going 
> ahead in their usual guise. 
> 
> But great fun watching - and cheers Jim, once again, for sharing.
> 
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:40 AM John Edwards  > wrote:
> The BBC won't announce a decision on that until the end of the month. 
> (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/384LXFP6B13d4q2GnLx8HGy/an-update-on-the-2020-proms
>  
> )
>  The UK finally got around to imposing a two-week quarantine on incoming 
> visitors, so unless that doesn't go long, the Last Night of the Proms would 
> become the Last Fortnight of the Proms. :-)
> 
> I was supposed to go over in early August for a cricket match, and I'm 
> waiting for confirmation that it is officially off. 
> 
> John
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 1:53 AM PGage  > wrote:
> 
> Win or lose in Game 2, I guess the first question for Ben is, are you going 
> to try to go to the last night of The Proms? Are they even having it this 
> year 
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:40 PM Jim Ellwanger  > wrote:
> Here is Tuesday's show:
> 
> http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200519.mp4 
> 
> 
> (As a bonus, it begins with the Ben-centric episodic promo, which I managed 
> to capture during "World News Tonight.")
> 
> 
> > On May 18, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Jim Ellwanger  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Just in case any members of the list didn't get a chance to see Ben on 
> > today's "Jeopardy!"...
> > 
> > http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200518.mp4 
> > 
> > 
> > (I'll probably only keep this up for a couple of days.)
> > 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Ben Scripps]

First off, a blanket thanks to everyone who sent kind words—I knew there’d be a 
lot of attention after this, but holy crap have my social media and text 
messages exploded!

And I still feel a little bad about missing that DD; I took three semesters of 
Russian in college, and to this day I think the best I could do is count to 
ten. 

BTW, and I can’t remember if I’ve told this here or not (I’ve told these 
stories so many times over the past couple of days, so apologies if I’m 
repeating myself), but I had absolutely zero awareness of the scores when I got 
that last clue correct.  My dad in the audience said he was watching the scores 
and knew what needed to happen, but the look of surprise on my face is 100% 
genuine.

> On May 19, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:
> 
> From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Diner
> 
> >And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy - the 
> >fact that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote Angels in 
> >America. :)
>  
> I would be worried if word got out to my Russian-born stepsister-in-law that 
> I didn’t exactly light up that category last night….
>  
> _   _
> |_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV
> |_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Ben Scripps]

On May 19, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> By pure luck, I'm up, and it's after 11:00 PM ET so...
> 
> First off, the heartiest of congratulations! Helluva comeback!
> 
> What I want to desperately know is what Ben was thinking when they revealed 
> Nancy's wager. Because I was looking at the clock watching live and I thought 
> to myself as they went to break before Final "This seems kinda early. They're 
> going to the tiebreaker." Ben's response was revealed, and I said to my 
> six-year-old "Tiebreaker coming up." Alex made his comment about Nancy not 
> looking happy, and I thought "Well, at least she's got the tiebreaker." And 
> then...there was no tiebreaker.

When Ken lost his 75th, they had Nancy Zerg on an iso cam and were able to cut 
to her reaction when Ken’s response was revealed.  I really wish they had the 
same for me when Alex said that about Megan, ‘cause I’d love to see the look on 
my own face.  In the diary of notes I wrote after getting back to the hotel, 
all I wrote was that Alex said “Megan's not looking happy" and all I could 
think was “Wait, what?!?”  

Megan really had a tough decision on her wager; on the one hand, if she’s 
confident in “America in the 1700’s”, play for the win, and if not, maybe play 
for the tie.  I don’t envy her for having to make that decision.  If our roles 
had been reversed, you would have seen a tiebreaker; I wouldn’t have wagered a 
penny on that category if I didn’t have to.

And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I really 
honestly don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit running 
through your head at that moment...

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[TV orNotTV] Dave Foley (was: So long, Fred Willard)

[Ben Scripps]

Just starting a new thread; I didn’t want to hijack Fred’s…

The night after I saw Fred, I had tickets to see Tig Notaro, followed by a show 
called “The Set List”.  Paul Provenza would come out and introduce a series of 
standups one at a time, and each would be given a series of goofball topics on 
which they had to ad-lib a standup set.

In line outside the State Theater, waiting in zero degree weather for whatever 
the 8pm show was to finish so they could let us in, a small group of people 
walked past us loudly saying something (in jest) about how they were much 
better than us because they didn’t have to wait outside in the cold.  It was 
Dave Foley and Tim Meadows (both had performed at the festival that year), and 
a couple of other people.  Both comics seemed…less than “fully ebriated.”  We 
all had a good chuckle as they continued on their way.

Inside the theater, Provenza started the show, brought out two or three comics, 
and then came back out and said we had a special guest who would be performing. 
 Out comes Dave.  He did a little rambling comedy for a minute, and then they 
flashed a topic on the screen.  Dave tried his best on whatever the topic was, 
but between the difficulty of ad-libbing standup and his level of sobriety, he 
just rambled for another minute.  Then he turned back to the screen, and the 
next topic appeared: “Door-to-Door Skinny Dipping”.  This alone got a good 
laugh from the audience, particularly when Dave just stood there for a few long 
seconds with his back to us staring at the screen.  Then the mic just fell out 
of his hand as he continued to try to process this topic.  Another big laugh.  
He slowly turned back to the audience for another big laugh, and just as it was 
starting to die down, a female voice at the back of the theater shouted out 
“Take off your pants!”  Big laugh.

And Dave just shrugged his shoulders and started unfastening his belt.  More 
big laughs.  Down came his pants.  The group of women at the back were now 
whooping and encouraging him to keep going.  He picked up the mic and said “You 
know I’m Canadian; you know I’ll do it.”  They kept whooping.  So Dave shrugged 
his shoulders again, down went the shorts, and out came his…Canuck.

Huge laughs.  He eventually put his pants back on, Provenza came out to pull 
him off the stage, and the show went on.

Afterward, the closing event at the festival was in a performance space in the 
bookstore next to the theater; all of the comics from the week would gather for 
a freeform panel discussion that usually ran for a couple of hours.  As I’m 
sitting there, Tim Meadows arrives, and Michael Moore who was moderating 
explains that Dave was supposed to have arrived with Tim, but he 
was…unavailable.  Turns out he was having a chat with the local police, who 
were entertaining the notion of running him in on indecency charges.  
Fortunately, they never did; he eventually showed up for the last portion of 
the panel, still just as plastered as he’d been on stage.

But whenever I see “Kids” or “NewsRadio” or see him pop up in something, that’s 
all I’ll ever be able to see anymore.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Fred Willard

[Ben Scripps]

On May 16, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Of course he will always be remembered for his performances in Spinal Tap and 
> Best In Show. I have two ACE Trucking Company vinyl records, and bootlegs of 
> Fernwood Tonight (if they released it on DVD I’d buy it). So lots of his art 
> to cherish. 

Several years ago, I had the opportunity to see Fred in person when he was the 
guest of honor at the Traverse City Winter Comedy Arts** festival.  (He was 
supposed to have been interviewed by Jeff Garlin, but when he couldn’t make it, 
co-founder Michael Moore stepped in to host.)  Fred was a helluva funny guy, 
and judging solely by the reaction in the room when he just casually mentioned 
“Fernwood 2 Night”, it’s a wonder it’s never made it to an official release.

**I’ve got another story about this festival, but I’ll save it for the next 
time someone mentions Dave Foley.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] TCM Intro

[Ben Scripps]

On May 6, 2020, at 5:48 AM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:
> 
> We were supposed to have taped in front of an audience at the TCM Festival 
> last month, but, well ... (to quote Elaine Stritch on her dumping Ben Gazzara 
> for Rock Hudson) "We know what a bum idea THAT turned out to be!" In spite of 
> my desperate need for a haircut, we did the intro and the outro over an 
> online feed. While the experience was actually quite pleasant, I'm hopeful I 
> don't come off as too much of a boob. It'll probably end up being a total of 
> about five minutes, so I won't look -too- bad.

Looking forward to seeing it!

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Re: [TV orNotTV] J! to replay "GOAT" tourney

[Ben Scripps]

On May 6, 2020, at 5:38 AM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:
> 
> And it really, truly IS all in the buzzer. 

This needs to be in big flashing neon letters at the audition.  Going in, I 
thought I’d have a natural advantage, what with being a technical director and 
being used to timing things down to a 30th of a second on a regular basis, but 
there just aren’t enough words to describe how tough buzzing at the right 
moment is.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] J! to replay "GOAT" tourney

[Ben Scripps]

On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:59 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
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> 
> May 4th to 15th, bookended by Jennings' first and last episodes as a daily 
> contestant...
> 
> https://ew.com/tv/jeopardy-to-re-air-ken-jennings/ 
> 
>  (link)

I guess I’ve sat on this long enough…when new episodes resume on Monday the 
18th, I’ll be at the center lectern trying to dethrone Mr. Sikula as the 
reigning TV or Not TV Jeopardy! champion.  (I don’t think we have any other 
past champions, do we?)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: congrats

[Ben Scripps]

Congratulations Kevin!

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> I saw on The Book of Face that one of our long term members has become 
> engaged to be married this year.  Announced on today on Valentine's Day.   I 
> great big congrats to that Long Term Outspoken Opinionated member of the list.
> 
> Shannon Doherty should now be relieved.
> Dick Clark will not be hosting a reception for them.
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Viacom is CBS and CBS is Viacom... again

[Ben Scripps]

We ran a promo for “Evil” tonight where it appeared briefly; that was local, so 
it’s on the promos they feed to stations on the daily piping.  

They typically send a PR email when there’s some big thing they’re hyping, but 
I haven’t seen anything for this, so whatever the purpose, it’s pretty clear 
they’re keeping it low-key.  For now.  If they’re starting this early though, 
I’d imagine once we get closer to P-Stew’s "Get Off My Lawn” in January, the 
hype machine will shift into hyperspeed.

(Sorry if I triggered any Trek fans by not calling it “warp speed”.)


> On Dec 5, 2019, at 9:21 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since I've only noticed it during "Young Sheldon" promos, I didn't think much 
> of it (especially since Sheldon's in Spock costume for part of the latest 
> promo)
> 
> It's possible the inclusion of the Starfleet delta shield reflects the 
> reunion of the Paramount TV and film divisions (split up when Viacom and CBS 
> split near the beginning of the century).  Does anyone have a handle on the 
> other images at the end of the promo?
> 
> David
> 
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 11:58:36 AM EST, M-D November 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Speaking of CBS...has anyone else noticed that they've started tagging all of 
> their promos with Starfleet insignias?  I noticed it last night during 
> "Survivor" - separate promos for "Mom" and "Evil" ended with the CBS logo, 
> which quickly blipped into the Starfleet insignia before the promo ended.  If 
> this is promotion for "Star Trek Discovery" or "Picard", it's...unusual to 
> say the least.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Didn't we have a member in Wisconsin...

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On Oct 24, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> I wish my CBS channel was still WWTV from Alpena, etc.  Sadly our cable 
> carrier here gives me the Detroit feed (as of 5-10) years ago.
> 
> #oldman #harkingBackToTheOldDays

Just to clarify our reputation, we’re not Alpena.  Alpena used to have the 
dubious distinction of being the smallest television market in the country, and 
they do have a CBS affiliate, WBKB, known by every broadcaster in the state of 
Michigan as “We Barely Know Broadcasting”.  (I first heard that joke when I was 
in *high school*, just starting to learn about television.)  With the exception 
of Alpena, we’re everything north of Mt. Pleasant (fire up Chips!) and the 
eastern third of the U.P., roughly 35 counties’ worth of coverage area.  Made 
for some long days back when I was a photog and had to drive that stupid live 
truck around.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Didn't we have a member in Wisconsin...

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On Oct 23, 2019, at 7:03 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:
> 
> (I'll bet that when the Tribune TV stations division broke up, Mr Scripps got 
> at least a little ribbing from colleagues... :-D)

No more than all the other days…:-)  (The station (WXMI) where I did my 
internship in college is one of the former Trib stations now owned by “the 
other Scripps”, which is, at least as far as I’ve been told, no relation.)

Back to the original question, we (WWTV/WFQX) did a repack switchover last 
Friday (channel 21, with a PSIP of channel 45, simulcasting channel 32—try 
explaining that to a confused viewer).  We had some delays over the summer with 
coordinating tower crews and good weather, but we fortunately weren’t off the 
air for any longer than necessary to do the work.  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] long shot question: Real People / That's Incredible!

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thetvdb.com  lists about ten of the episodes of “TI” in 
its database (with segment names), but apparently not even an entry for “RP”.

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:06 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> I’m pretty sure Fran Tarkenton has every episode on tape and watches them 
> over and over in his basement. Maybe if you wrote to him?
> 
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 6:03 PM Jon Delfin  > wrote:
> Wiki, IMDb and tv.com  have failed me. Anybody know if 
> there's an online (i.e. searchable) segments list for these two shows? 
> Specifically wondering if either show ever did anything about crosswords. 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Colbert Blooper?

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On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> The Trevor Noah clip also aired in place of the cold open in Los Angeles, so 
> I assume this was a problem with CBS's Pacific time zone feed, not a local 
> issue.

ISTR there’s at least one affiliate somewhere out west that airs Colbert half 
an hour off the normal schedule.  Stations used to “tape and turn” (that is, 
start recording the show, then air the front half while the back half is still 
recording), but they might have set it up now where there’s a separate 
half-hour offset feed on which Colbert starts at :05 past the hour instead of 
:35.  CBS Satellite Control in NYC controls all of the affiliate satellite 
receivers**, and it wouldn’t be the first time they had affiliates tuned to the 
wrong feed.  My guess is that they had PacNet stations accidentally set up on 
this offset feed and happened to switch everyone back to the “correct” feed 
just as the show open was starting.  (It’s also very possible that the live 
“Celebrity Big Bother” had something to do with it; they’ve got a lot of hoops 
to jump through when there’s a live show in prime.)

**Based on my phone calls to them over the years, I believe they may also 
control a couple of the thickest New York accents in the world.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Crank Yankers" revival on the way

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On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
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> David Spade? "Crank Yankers"? Can't wait for Comedy Central to announce 
> revivals of "The Vacant Lot" and "Short Attention Span Theater.”

Only if Penn Jillette is doing the announcing.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The NFL may have to punish Fox...

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On Sep 9, 2018, at 9:33 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
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> 
> GG web struck this one too, but I was able to open it in IE...
> 
> Awful Announcing (link): Fox's equipment suffered from power-supply problems, 
> but they were resolved by the 4th.

Reminds me of the great Harry Coyle directing a Brewers/Red Sox game in ’82 
with just one camera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PC8w2WZwfo 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:57 PM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:50 PM, PGage  wrote:
>> 
>> NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This 
>> occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a 
>> little unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary 
>> game in a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off 
>> before it ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did.
> 
> It wasn’t until kickoff of the Sunday night game that Fox had to cut away 
> (i.e., about 5:38). I’m positive that Fox got to stay with the game until its 
> conclusion in Dallas and Denver. I’m also positive that they had to cut away 
> in markets that had aired the Rams-Redskins or 49ers-Seahawks. What I’m not 
> sure about is the many markets besides Dallas and Denver that aired 
> Broncos-Cowboys from the beginning, i.e., everything in red on this map...
> 
> http://506sports.com/2017/02-FOX-L-V2.png
> 
> …any reports from other members of the list?

Here in Northern Michigan (well and truly in the red zone on that map), Fox 
moved us to the Washington game during the delay, then switched back once 
things picked back up in Denver.  We got DAL-DEN all the way through to the 
end, with “The Orville” starting around 8:51 or so (and running in its 
entirety).  The 9pm “Family Guy” rerun was dropped, and the 9:30 “Simpsons” ran 
until about 10:21.

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[TV orNotTV] BBC "News at 10" Idles for Four Minutes

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Viewers Tuesday night expecting to see the start of the Huw Edwards newscast 
instead got four minutes of him sitting stoically as techs in the control room 
were dealing with a “technical systems crash”:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40350006

HuwTube for the four minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWcQ2nZVg4

(Even if you don’t watch the whole thing, it’s worth looking at the 2:10 mark 
as the glasses-wearing producer in the background right of Huw notices what’s 
happening.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NCAA Tournament question

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> On Mar 12, 2017, at 12:22 PM, daniel anderson  
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> Isn't CBS not allowed to pick up any of the west coast sites in the first 
> round because of local news, or can that be modified if the Salt Lake or 
> Sacramento sites have some good matchups?( this would also apply if  CBS 
> wants to protect "60 Minutes”

As a director of local news now in his 20th year of dealing with abbreviated, 
late, and/or tape-delayed newscasts during March Madness, I can tell you 
first-hand that local news is, by all appearances, nowhere on their radar.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] I noticed something about the LDS...

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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 9:44 PM, daniel anderson  
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> Watching the Panthers/Saints game i noted that FOX warned viewers in the home 
> markets of the late games that they owuld be cutting away from the 
> Panthers/Saints game soon(didn't happen here as we are in the Panthers home 
> market). I've never heard the in-game announcers metion that- NBC used to do 
> that on site a lot back in the 80s- but i don't remember CBS doing that.

CBS and Fox both do it when necessary.  The agreements between the NFL and the 
networks require local games to be aired in their local markets in their 
entirety, even if it means cutting away from a “Heidi” game to do so.  It’s 
also why if a local game is a blowout in the third quarter, most of the country 
gets switched to a better game while the local markets still have to watch the 
Lions—er, stay with the bad game.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: My dad is gone

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My deepest sympathies to you and your family, Bob.

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
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> Found him this morning collapsed on the floor going into the bathroom off our 
> kitchen. 83.
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sounds like the zebras or CBS goofed up...

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On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:44 AM, daniel anderson  
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> It happened again last night with the Broncos Chargers game, where CBS 
> accidentally rolled a promo in the middle of play. How that can happen?

Human beings sometimes press the wrong button.  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] This week's J! test

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> On Oct 6, 2016, at 11:49 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
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> Once again I tripped up on a river question.  I really need to review my 
> mountain ranges and rivers before the test each time.  At least I got the 
> mountain question right.
> 
> Did anyone else take the plunge this week?  I think I did well enough make 
> the audition, but I still have to be randomly selected.

I took the Tuesday exam; reviewing the recording I made of myself taking the 
test, I think I scored 41/50, my best score yet.  The normal 
assortment--answers I knew, a couple I guessed correctly on, and a couple I 
knew but brain farted on (seriously, I knew what city hosted the World’s Fair 
in 1893, but I couldn't come up with where the 2008 Olympics were held?)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Jeopardy! October Test

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> On Sep 13, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Bill Partsch  wrote:
> 
> I registered for the test last night but have yet to receive a confirmation. 
> Is that typical in others' experiences? Thanks. 
> 
> —Bill

I had an e-mail confirmation from "nore...@email.jeopardy.com 
” within a minute when I registered around 
6:30 ET last night.  

Best of luck to Dave’s wife, and here’s hoping I can do better than the 
high-30’s I’ve tallied in the past and at least earn an in-person test...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sports/network news question

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> On Jul 28, 2016, at 11:10 PM, Doug Eastick <east...@mcd.on.ca> wrote:
> Ben Scripps may have a bit of an answer on this.
> 
A bit of a myopic answer, as I can only really speak to CBS, and even then only 
in the eastern time zone, but the rule of thumb for 11pm shows is that we get a 
35-minute hole to fill between the end of whatever (Thursday football, 
political convention, whatever) and the start of Colbert.  CBS is usually 
generous about rounding up to the next minute--tonight’s convention coverage 
ended, IIRC, sixteen seconds past the minute; they rounded up and stations 
ended up with a 35:44 hole for local news, much to the joy of newscast 
producers east of the Mississippi.  But not always; for example, an overage of 
under a minute, which we usually only see on awards shows or “Survivor” reunion 
shows, sometimes has to be eaten by the station’s newscast, much to the chagrin 
of those same producers.

But on the weekends, if there’s an overrun that ends before 6:30pm, the network 
newscast still starts at 6:30; some stations will run an abbreviated local 
newscast and go to the network news at 6:30, while others will preempt and run 
their full newscast, either joining the network when the local show is done, or 
adding material to preempt it entirely.  If the sports runs past 6:30, then 
network just starts their newscast at the end of sports, and ends on time.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Possibly The Single Worst Wager In Jeopardy History...

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On Jan 19, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> Obviously they have extra eligible contestants. But what happens if you get 
> the call, fly out, and you don't get drawn?

Ken Jennings wrote briefly about this in his first book, “Brainiac”:

“I’d forgotten this tidbit from the contestant orientation: all ‘Jeopardy!’ 
contestants are responsible for paying their own way out to California, 
including plane tickets, hotel and rental car, but if you have to fly out more 
than once (for example, if you keep winning), ‘Jeopardy!’ at least pays for the 
additional plane ticket.”

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Curious Case Of Nura

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> On Nov 12, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> 1. I'm assuming somewhere off camera the contestants can see the full game 
> totals. I'm curious how frequently they're updated (i.e., could Nuna see in 
> real time what the totals were, or could she only see what the totals were 
> after the toss up round that preceded it?). 

I don’t know if they can see this or if it’s only visible to Sajak, but here’s 
a screencap from the first million dollar winner a few years ago:

http://benscripps.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/wof.png 


One would assume the box filled with the cash value is a running score and the 
bottom box is for the current round’s score.  I can’t imagine there’s any 
reason not to update in real time, especially if it’s electronic.

One also assumes whomever made their cue cards is an expert in neither 
geography nor spelling.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon deal: Batman TOS, remastered

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 On Jul 12, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:
 
 Till 12mid (Adam) west tonight 
 http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_11823855011_gbsl_rlm_l-1_4822_1d86e52e?rh=i%3Amovies-tv%2Cn%3A11823855011%2Cn%3A11823855011ie=UTF8node=11823855011
  (link), DVD $ 86.99, an imported region-free Blu-ray $ 89.99, and the 
 domestic Blu for $101.99.
 
 B

FWIW, I just bought this set two weeks ago through Amazon Italy 
(http://amzn.to/1JZJwAY http://amzn.to/1JZJwAY).  Tthe region-free Blu-ray 
there is currently 39.34€ (roughly $44 USD), with shipping to the US around $10 
or $12.  Took about two weeks to arrive, but aside from the synopsis label on 
the back of the case, it’s all in English and plays fine.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Only Episode Of Only In Monroe You Need

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 On Jul 4, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:
 
 I just now noticed that one of the normal hosts is a former Miss America.  
 They still irritate some of my relatives.

She’s also the pageant winner ambushed in a parade by Michael Moore in “Roger  
Me”.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Adult Jeopardy! Test in April

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 Speculation is that it was delayed due to fallout from the Sony hack.

I choose to believe that Sony hacked **my** e-mail to find out exactly
when I would be going on my first real vacation in four years and timed it
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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: My mother is gone

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My deepest condolences on the loss of your mother.

-Ben


 On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:
 
 Congestive heart failure, with pulmonary edema. Just in the last hour. 79 
 last November.
 
 She was 79.
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Cowboys fan sues NFL for $88+mil

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On Jan 23, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:
 
 My optometrist, who shares a surname with a famous Amurcan political figure I 
 will not name, suggested I have a second pair of glasses made just for the 
 computer screen.

Growing up in Grand Rapids, my optometrist was Gerald Ford’s brother.  

No, it doesn’t really add anything to the discussion.  It's just one of those 
things that’s hard to work into conversation, so when the moment presented 
itself...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: CSI: Cyber is still alive?

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Original Recipe CSI: apparently brings its current season to an end
February 15, while CSI: Cyber debuts March 4 (Wed):

https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=41420

Also included in the above pee-arr: the March 1 (Sun) premiere of the
Vince Gilligan-helmed Battle Creek.  I saw the rough cut of this that
was fed to affiliates over the summer; it certainly wasn't at Breaking
Bad level, but there was enough there to make me want to see more. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Simpsons' ripped off my 'Goodfellas' character, actor charges in suit

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 Heck, at least half the members of this list probably have a case for
 saying Comic Book Guy is based on them.

Worst. Reply. Ever.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

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Most CBS affiliates have multiple (typically at least three) satellite IRD's 
which feed into a small routing switcher controlled by CBS Satellite Operations 
in New York.  They keep primary control for localizing feeds for affiliates 
(i.e. NFL Sundays or regionalized commercials during prime time) and have 
control over what feed each affiliate is receiving; the weekly e-mails we 
receive with procedures and whatnot always contain a reminder to call air 
control immediately if we have to switch to a secondary or tertiary feed of the 
network for some reason so that they can retune the IRD remotely to get us on 
the correct regional feed.  

Not having seen it directly, I'd guess that since it happened at the 30 minute 
mark of Scorpion, whatever station PGage was watching was maybe running 30 
minutes off the clock (i.e. prime started at 8:30 local time instead of 8:00) 
while the rest of the network was on time, and CBS sent a trigger to switch 
that affiliate back to the normal network thinking they were out of prime at 
that point and into local programming.  Just a guess...



 On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All stations are digital now, and switching tends to operate remotely from 
 one of about 30 to 40 engineering hubs/routing stations across the country. 
 Such a gaffe would take place at one of those hubs. A computer is supposed to 
 be programed to know which router to select, which vyvx (or other dedicated 
 land line) feed to use, and when to make such a switch. It's basic programing 
 error that causes it. 
 
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whatever was the cause of the glitch, it wasn't national. Didn't happen in 
 NYC. My first guess would be a screw-up at your local station. Also my second 
 guess. 
 
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:58 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com 
 mailto:pga...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I decided to check out episode 2 on my DVR this morning while going 
 through some email. At the 30 minute mark it suddenly shifts to a promo for 
 Dave, and then the very start of NCIS:LA (starting with the Previously on). 
 It continues with the opener for the episode, goes to commercial, and then 
 returns to Scorpion - elapsed time on my DVR of 4 minutes. I was able to go 
 to On Demand and see the missing portion. While it cut out prior to Scorpion 
 breaking for commercial, it seems to have rejoined at the point where 
 Scorpion returned from commercial.
 
 Over the many years of participating in this list I think have learned that 
 things like this happen because someone punched the wrong button in some kind 
 of switching station or something (or maybe it was just a computer glitch) 
 and the start of NCIS:LA was selected instead of the next segment of 
 Scorpion. But I have a couple of questions. One, why would Scorpion have cut 
 out prior to going to its commercial? Does that suggest that someone not only 
 punched the wrong button, but punched it too soon? Two - did this happen 
 nation wide, just in the Pacific Time zone, or maybe just in the San 
 Francisco area? Or could the mistake have been with my cable provider 
 (Comcast)?
 
 The mom looked a little different this week but I could not put my finger on 
 it. I am starting to resent the emotional manipulativeness of this show a 
 lot. I could put up with it, and maybe even appreciate it, if the makers put 
 half as much effort into the plots and character developments and paying off 
 on the promise that their characters are super smart as they did into yanking 
 on heart strings - but they seem intent on not.
 
 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 8:46 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com 
 mailto:pga...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I like Sneakers too, though every time I watch it I find I am mostly 
 frustrated I am not watching The Hot Rock instead.
 
 Afghanistan banana stand. 
 
 Exactly. 
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC mulling LIVE sitcom

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 On Sep 8, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote:
 
 M-D made a comment of perform the show on the day it airs, send it up to the 
 satellite. which made me wonder in the new-age world of fibre, how 
 often is satellite used in comparison to fibre nowadays?

I wish I were in a position to offer a better generalized assessment, but all I 
can do is tell you what it’s like here in small-market world.  Fibre isn’t 
everywhere yet, though it’s getting there.  For us, we still get all 
programming via satellite.  The difference now is that it’s almost exclusively 
file-based rather than video.  The days of any yahoo with a C-band dish in his 
backyard being able to watch the 1600ET feed of “Entertainment Tonight” are 
well and truly gone; PitchBlue handles content distribution, both for 
programming and national advertising.  Their box downloads the video file, 
transcodes it into MPEG4, and hands it off to our playback system along with a 
cue sheet to segment it for local insertion.  No tapes, no generation loss, 
pure digital from start to finish, but it all still comes down over satellite.  

As far as actual live content (i.e. sporting events, etc), that’s definitely 
all still satellite.  

Me, I’m still trying to get over the fact that satellite for local news 
gathering is going the way of the dinosaur and being replaced with cellular 
transmitters.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC mulling LIVE sitcom

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 On Sep 6, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't see it succeeding. I understand why a network would find the idea 
 attractive, people are more likely to watch TV done live in real time. And 
 doing it live sets it apart from other sitcoms. But outside of SNL shows have 
 done live episodes only as a sweeps gimmick. Doing it week after week is 
 another story.

FWIW, Fox tried it in 1992-93; after a sweeps gimmick live episode was 
well-received, the entire second season of “Roc” was done live to the east 
coast. 

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[TV orNotTV] Cops Crew Member Shot in Omaha

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Sound man Bryce Dion was killed during a shootout Tuesday night between
police and an armed robbery suspect at a fast food restaurant.  The AP
says Dion was killed by police gunfire.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/27/cops-employee-shot/14669517/


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi-NotTV: Car Racing Death

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On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Finally, there have been incidents where drivers have moved towards the 
 racing line under a caution to express their extreme displeasure at another 
 driver. After this I'll bet Grandma's pearls Nascar makes it abundantly clear 
 that behavior will no longer be considered acceptable.
 

No worries on the pearls then...
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/in-aftermath-of-stewart-ward-incident--nascar-bans-drivers-from-confronting-cars-133833022.html

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Re: [TV orNotTV] One more Robin Williams note

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On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:32 AM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I happened to be watching the CBS Evening News at 7:00 Monday, which is 
 (usually) the rebroadcast of the newscast that was done live at 6:30. (All 
 times eastern.) They broke in a couple of times with special reports to 
 announce Williams' death. It makes sense for stations that showed the 
 newscast at 6:30, but it's odd to have the newscast interrupted for breaking 
 news, and then be rejoined in progress.

We air the 6:30 edition here; Pelley didn't report anything on the story until 
the very last moment in the show, when there was just enough time to basically 
say We've got breaking news--Robin Williams has died.  Good night.  (It 
wasn't really that abrupt, but you get the idea.)  My guess is that, had word 
come down even three minutes earlier, Pelley would have skipped the fluff PKG 
at the end of the show, done more coverage on Williams, and there wouldn't have 
been a special report.  

As for special reports during the 7:00 show--they do that occasionally, and 
it's always as awkward as it sounds.  I can't say as I've ever seen them do it 
during the 6:30 show.  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Shep Smith and Todd Bridges regret remarks about Williams

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On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As God is my witness, I thought Todd Bridges has been dead at least a decade.

You and me both.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

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 I seem to remember Adam Carolla having a show in the Post-Daily Show
 Timeslot prior to Colbert. I remember it being some weird call-in show but
 I struggle to remember what the point of the show was.

Too Late with Adam Carolla, a call-in talk show notable for an episode
in which a ridiculously inebriated Steve-O (of Jackass fame) tackled
Carolla and smashed a glass coffee table.  The Wikipedia says it started
at 11:30 in August 2005, but was pushed back to midnight when it failed to
find an audience, and was finally cancelled in November.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Letterman retiring in 2015, supposedly

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 CNN is just relating the Tweet at the moment.  Tonight's musical guest is
 REM, and Mike Mills has been credited with passing on the nugget.

CBS's news site has details from the taping:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/david-letterman-makes-big-announcement/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dave gets the JIP treatment?

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On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:03 AM, stannc sta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've never seen this before. College basketball here in the south caused a 
 delay in late local news. After the news, Late Show was joined 20 minutes in, 
 as he introduced his first guests. 
 
 Since when do they join in progress rather than pushing it back?  The 
 8:30-11:00 part of CBS primetime is in the DVR overnight zone here. 
 
 Wait, as I was typing this at 12:00 the cut back to the monologue.  
 
 Is someone at WBTV letting the interns run the equipment again?
 
Edumacated speculation here, but since whatever college basketball wasn't 
national, WBTV probably rolled tape* on Dave at 11:35; at the end of the show, 
master control switched back to the live net feed instead of the tape playback. 
 Given the amount of automation present in master control rooms these days, it 
was probably just a default switch to Net line in the playlist that didn't 
get taken out with the late start, and the sort of easy little thing to 
overlook that just didn't get caught.

*No, not really tape; no one uses tape anymore.  But it rolls off the tongue 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Blink (twice) and you'll miss Conan

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On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:22 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Johnny Carson estate posted another full episode tonight, which first 
 aired on this day 25 years ago. Yes the monologue is good, yes I laughed 
 loudly at the desk bit, yes Jimmy Stewart blew the roof off the place when he 
 revealed his New Year's resolution (talk slower), yes Bob Saget was 
 quick-witted and odd, but the musical act is what has me preoccupied this 
 evening. His name was Preston Smith, and he had a song I hesitate to call a 
 hit on the soundtrack for the Tom Cruise movie Cocktail. And I've been 
 cracking myself up all night at the thought of what he chose to do on what 
 was apparently his national TV debut. Specifically, he performed his own 
 cowbell during the song. That is to say he held a guitar, but by the time the 
 chorus hit, he let it hang off his shoulder so he could bang the cowbell to 
 his immediate right. And he did so with such fervor that he just screamed 
 dig me and my awesome cowbell skills! to the world. Maybe it doesn't seem 
 amusing to you, and maybe I'm just in a goofy mood, or maybe I just want to 
 take any attention away from Jimmy Fallon, but Mr. Smith decided what would 
 win over the American people was if he played cowbell during his song. The 
 cowbell, as we all know, is a complex musical instrument requiring seconds to 
 master. This predates the more cowbell SNL sketch by at least a decade, and 
 the reality of this guy thinking the cowbell made him look -- I don't know -- 
 sexy maybe? is just amazingly funny to me. Anyway, this episode is a 
 must-watch for anyone who likes laughter. 
 
 http://youtu.be/CvKYN4kTNWg

To be fair, he's also got a drum and cymbal he's hitting as well.  But I'm all 
in favor of taking attention away from Jimmy Fallon.  (Hell, I'm in favor of 
NBC skipping Fallon and just airing repeats from the Carson estate.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Question for old-timers on this list

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 I was curious if any of the longtime members who date back to the
 TVBarn2 days remember what I'm talking about.

Definitely remember the discussion, but I can't come up with the title. 
The best I could find on short notice was a Wikipedia list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Christmas_television_specials

I gave that a quick perusal, but nothing jumped out at me...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] TV orNotTV] NOTTV: Harvard Dialect Survey in NYT

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On Dec 22, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Melissa Pollak takingupspace...@gmail.com wrote:

 Third time, still no answer(s).  I suspect that in my case, there are no 
 answers.  Although I’ve now lived in the Washington, DC area most of my life, 
 I was born and raised in the Deep South – to European parents.

It took me several attempts in both Safari and Firefox to get it to complete as 
well.  I had to let the results page sit for about 30 seconds before anything 
appeared.

The color contours on the generated map were darkest red in the areas where 
I've spent the most time; the highlighted cities were Grand Rapids, where I 
grew up; Detroit, where I've never spent more than a night; and Buffalo, where 
I've never been.  I expected a little more New England flavor to my results; 
I'm from Massachusetts, my mom grew up there and much of my speech I took from 
her (enough that, when in a college linguistics class, the professor wrote the 
words 'Stu' and 'stew' on the board, and I was the only person in the room to 
say them differently; he immediately pegged me as being from somewhere in New 
England.)

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[TV orNotTV] Jay Thomas Skipping Late Show Christmas Finale

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He says recovery from a recent surgery is keeping him off this year's show
for the first time in 14 years.  Darlene Love still ends the year with the
best Christmas song ever performed.

http://goo.gl/LDxwFg
-or-
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Tweaking my handle

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On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:

 I hope this doesn't mean I have to have a ing Google+ page. To me it's no 
 different from FB, which I despise.

You would appear to not be the only person who feels this way...

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/youtube-cofounder-breaks-8-year-absence-on-site-to-gripe-about-comment-policy/

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[TV orNotTV] Cartoon Producer Lou Scheimer Dead

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Lou Scheimer, half of the literally-rotating EP credit seen on Filmation 
cartoons of the 70's and 80's (Fat Albert, the animated Star Trek, 
He-Man), died two days before his 85th birthday:

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/animators/r-i-p-filmation-co-founder-lou-scheimer-89971.html

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Re: [TV orNotTV] sitcom teasers on CBS

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On Oct 4, 2013, at 1:31 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

 All networks run promos for the following week's episode.  It's just that 
 this season, for reasons I don't understand, the CBS sitcoms are including a 
 title card with a VO from one of the show's stars saying On the next 
 title, which then leads into the split screen promo/credit roll.  It's 
 very jarring.

In seasons prior, CBS has used the production company logos to separate program 
content from credits when there's no final internal break.  For whatever 
reason, they've bumped the production company logos to after credits starting 
this season.  I suspect someone there figured it would be jarring to go 
straight from program content to the promo and credits, so they decided to add 
the Next week on bit.  It's definitely not working.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] More than just a good breakfast

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The whole concept sounds a bit flakey, but I'm sure they can fix it in Post.

On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Your humor is awfully rye. (Not corny.)
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Diner bwayst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:39:15 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:
 Battle Creek, Michigan, still the home of a leading food-products producer, 
 will apparently be the locale for a new cops-and-criminals project being 
 drawn up by a post-Breaking Bad Vince Gilligan and a post-House, MD David 
 Shore... CBS intends to add it in fall '14...
 
 http://www.thewrap.com/breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-and-david-shore-land-battle-creek-drama-with-cbs/
 
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 It's about cops investigating cereal killers.
  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy Judges Make Biggest D--k Move In Show's History

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On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know we've discussed in the past that the clue must be legible. Yes,
 spelling matters. Yes, I know it didn't affect the outcome. But if
 *anyone* would like to step up to explain this ruling, I'm all ears.

It's a game.  Games have rules.  Within the confines of the given
rules of this game, the response was not correct.

Yes, it was heartbreaking and awful to watch it happen.  It's awful to
have to tell the kid it's wrong.  But it's unfair to the other ten or
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy Judges Make Biggest D--k Move In Show's History

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On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 The rule (as I'm aware of it) is that a misspelling is okay as long as
 what's written could be pronounced in the way the correct answer sounds. I
 could easily argue it's a silent t.

I understand the rule the same way.  But I look at the word he wrote
and pronounce it ih-MAN-cip-TAY-shun.  Which is incorrect.  If this
is Millionaire, where it's the kid versus the house, I side with the
kid.  But this is a competition between kids, and it's unfair to the
other contestants to say Hey, close enough, we know what you meant.

Call me an asshole if you will (and I know you're not), but were I in
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Yesterday's Great Moment In Local Broadcasting

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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote:


 Not sure if they're still doing it this way, but they used to put graphics
 up on the network feed around 15 minutes before the start of Leno that
 listed the local break times for the late-night shows, so that the stations
 could program their automation from that.

 Date on this graphic is correct:  http://i.imgur.com/jks4WOe.jpg


FWIW, CBS still does the same thing with Letterman timings; a
similar-looking graphic with break times pops up on the network feed at
about 11:01 and typically stays up for 15 or 20 minutes.  They still send
the timings over their BAS system so it prints out a hard copy in
affiliates' master control rooms, but if the printer dies, this makes for a
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS Pulls 'Mike Molly' Ep Tonight

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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote:

 The season finale was about a tornado hitting Mike and Molly's home town
 of Chicago--of course, this is in response to the tornadoes in Oklahoma, a
 rerun will be shown and I suspect the episode will be the season-opener in
 September:


CBS sez this Thursday at 8:30, replacing a repeat of Two and a Half Fart
Jokes.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Season's Damage So Far (Annotated)

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On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote:

 FOX:  ...there are probably some unaired Cops eps that may air in
 syndication or on cable first.


Didn't see this mentioned here earlier, but Spike TV picked up Cops for a
fall debut in its Saturday 8pm slot:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/business/media/cops-is-moving-to-spike-tv.html?_r=0

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[TV orNotTV] Studio Problems for SCG

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Tweets he tonight on @craigyferg:

A/C in the studio broke  flooded half the lighting rig. Had to move 1/2
the audience to where the band aren't. One of those shows.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Roger Ebert

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On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Sun Times website keeps crashing, clearly overloaded, but here is
 their obit:


 http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/17320958-418/roger-ebert-dies-at-70-after-battle-with-cancer.html


NPR has a brief obit up as well, citing the Sun-Times:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/04/04/176261560/roger-ebert-legendary-film-critic-dies

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Newtown memorial live on local FOX affiliate

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On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:44 PM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote:


 All four broadcast networks are airing the president right now.

 Their schedule is really funky tonight, if the on-screen Eye-lerts are
 to be believed.

 I'm still not sure what CBS's schedule is supposed to be tonight. By my
 clock, the game ended at 7:57 ET. There was an on-screen Eye-lert saying
 that Survivor would start at 8:38 ET. 60 went to break at 34 or 35 past
 and, after a lengthy commercial break punctuated by the usual roundup of
 NFL scores, the special report for POTUS started at 38 past with Scott
 Pelley saying that Survivor would resume where it left off, even though
 it hadn't started yet.


 I saw the intro to 60 Minutes. They said it was a special short edition
 with only 2 stories: one on Newtown and one on raising the Costa Concordia.


CBS has the ability to run many separate net feeds out of New York--I'm not
positive of the number, but during training on a new switcher many years
ago, I believe our trainer (who'd trained directors at CBS) had it at 27
individual network feeds that could be generated).  So for an early
regional game that ended earlier than the Pittsburgh/Dallas game, they
almost certainly would have dumped out of NFL coverage ASAP to get to the
Survivor finale as close to on-time as possible (which meant some viewers
were already seeing Survivor when Pelley cut in, while others were still
in 60 Minutes).

Which means if you're watching Survivor in the east, you may want to
start avoiding social media around 10:30 or so...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Today's That Can't Be Right, Can It? Item

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On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 23 October 2012 10:33, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to The Guardian today, when Scandal launched in April, it
 marked the end of a 37-year drought of a black female lead on a TV
 series (going back to that 1974 classic Get Christie Love!).

 That Can't Be Right, Can It?


 I have just two words in response: Claire Huxtable. Although I suppose you
 could argue that The Cosby Show was an ensemble cast without any real leads.

1986's short-lived Melba certainly would qualify as having a black
female lead.  Not very successful, granted, but it counts.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] West Coast TVorNotTV-Watchers, How Do They Handle the Debate?

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Wesley (in Texas)
wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 These presidential debates start at 9pm eastern. What do the networks do on
 the West Coast. I know the news nets air it live and then rebroadcast it.
 (Fox and CNN close to 9pm PT, I presume.) How do the broadcast networks
 handle it? Do they air it live? Delay it to prime-time? Both?

CBS aired it live at 6pm on the west coast.  At 8:00, they ran the
8:00 ET episode of NCIS: Los Angeles, and at 9:00, an NCIS:LA
repeat with PSA's in place of commercials; local affils could replace
the PSA's with local breaks as desired.  At 10:00, stations were left
to fill with local programming until the start of Late Show at
11:35.

Or at least that's what they said they were gonna do.  Hard to pick up
KPIX in Michigan...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Space Shuttle Parade...

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On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 For those not in the LA area, not sure how much national coverage is
 being given to the Endeavour's final journey.

CBS Evening News did a piece on it last night.  While I was directing
our 6:00 news, CBS was running the raw video on the network line, and
I pretty much put my show on auto-pilot to watch their video.  Their
camera was on top of a building a block or two away, panning along as
Endeavour travelled down the street.  As it passed between taller
buildings, all you could see was the vertical stabilizer rising up
above the rooflines; it looked like a slow-motion recreation of the
opening of Airplane!.   Very cool; really wish I'd been there to see
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Is Thomas Szasz's Death a Myth?

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FWIW, the Wikipedia entry on Szasz was just protected after numerous
edits to report him as dead; the only source ever quoted was
reason.com, which was dismissed as not being a reliable source.

Don't know, but it looks like neither does anyone else...

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, reason.com has three blog posts on him today, but they're also
 going back to the same source you note. I'd lean towards dead.

 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:22 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have received a few emails this morning from various mental health
 contacts that Thomas Szasz, famous critic of standard psychiatry,
 libertarian gadfly and author of The Myth of Mental Illness died in New
 York on September 8 (see:
 http://www.tributes.com/show/Thomas-Stephen-Szasz-94416283).

 However, I have not been able to find confirmation of this in regular news
 outlets using a google search, or searching places like the NYT and CNN. I
 guess this is not as big a death in the general population as it is in my
 field, but still he was a notable person, and I would think the kind of guy
 that would rate an obit in the NYT, and he was old enough that they probably
 had one ready to go. I am wondering if anyone else has heard anything about
 this, or am I being suckered somehow?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Today's braintrust question...

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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv wrote:
 Military recruiting pitches such as this are paid ads, not PSAs.

Only recently have they transitioned to being paid spots; way back
when, the Chess spot was a mainstay on our PSA break reels in
college.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] On Today's (Thursday 5/31) Final Jeopardy

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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 - Original Message - From: Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com


 While understanding the decision of the judge is final, I still feel like
 the contestant got a raw deal on this. Anyone else feel that way?


 Looking off of my DVR:
 While I can assume her intent, the correct response (we'll leave it at a
 familiar brand name) was five letters long, and a reasonable person at best
 would likely deduce only four, and even then, her A more resembled a / \.
 While the show sometimes gives leeway for spelling, this instance probably
 wouldn't qualify.

I'd agree wholeheartedly.  The contestants are given 30 seconds to
write the correct response, after which the electronic pens are
disabled.  In her 30 seconds, she failed to write the correct
response.  End of game.

Two days ago, I finished reading a book on the history of the entity
referenced in tonight's question; it devoted a page or two to the
exact event referenced in the clue.  An odd feeling, to say the
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Re: [TV orNotTV] PBS Memorial Day Concert interrupted

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On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I happened to turn it on about ten seconds before it went off the air
 and was replaced by the video of last year's concert.

 Anybody hear what happened?

Perhaps it wasn't as seamless as they thought...
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WASHINGTON, May 27, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Due to severe
weather, the live broadcast of the NATIONAL MEMORIAL DAY CONCERT on
PBS slated for May 27 was cancelled and the Capitol grounds were
evacuated.

As a result, the 8pm broadcast on PBS aired lived for the first half
of the show, then transitioned seamlessly to footage from the 2011
NATIONAL MEMORIAL DAY CONCERT.

The 9:30-11 PM broadcast will feature the first half of the 2012
concert that aired live, followed by a seamless transition to footage
of the 2012 concert taped during the full dress rehearsal on Saturday,
May 26.

Safety is our first priority for audience, service men and women, and
performers on the West Lawn of the U.S. Capitol, said Michael
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Three LA TV Stations Can't Get LA Hockey Current Team Logo Right

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On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Though I assume they shouldn't have to use the
 website to get a logo, as they should have the recent press kit somewhere to
 reference.

I can speak from experience here; MLB and the NFL have nice,
extensively stocked press sites, including bitmap and vector graphics
of all the team logos, logos for special games (Super Bowl, All-Star
Game, etc.), color specifications, and everything a graphic artist
could ever ask for.  As far as I've been able to find (and admittedly
it's been a couple years since I went looking), neither the NHL nor
NBA have anything similar.  You're pretty much on your own.  When I
needed the new Pistons logo a couple of years ago, it was easy enough
to download a .PDF of their press kit, open it in Illustrator and find
the vector version of their logo.  But that takes work, and most local
news people (even those in the second largest market) seem to be
allergic to work.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Three LA TV Stations Can't Get LA Hockey Current Team Logo Right

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On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM, John Edwards jedward...@gmail.com wrote:
 media.nhl.com seems to be what you might be thinking of.

Which was, the last time I tried, completely devoid of anything useful
to a graphic artist.  No, scratch that; it was pretty much devoid of
anything useful period.  But they did start spamming me, so I got
something out of it...

 But even if one hasn't set up an account there, surely a 30-second e-mail to
 the PR department gets you the logo quickly, assuming they didn't already
 have it.

You'd think.  And in my experience, you'd be wrong.  Maybe they've
gotten better since then.

But it all still comes back to a lack of good people doing good work.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Wiig's SNL Swan Song

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On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wasn't Eddie Murphy nominated for Dream Girls?

In addition to Murphy, Murray and Wiig, Wikipedia sez:

Dan Aykroyd - Nomination for Supporting Actor in Driving Miss Daisy
George Coe (1975) - Nomination for Short Subject De Düva (The Dove)
Joan Cusack (1985) - Nominations for Supporting Actress in Working
Girl and In and Out
Robert Downey, Jr. (1985) - Nominations for Chaplin (Actor) and
Tropic Thunder (Supporting Actor)
Michael McKean (1994) - Nominated with Annette O'Toole for Best Song
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Problems on the Community set

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Ken Levine weighs in on his blog today:

http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2012/04/chevy-chase-vs-dan-harmon.html

Fun game: try and guess which side the former showrunner came down on.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Best Spring Training Graphic Ever

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On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM, televisiongirl
televisiong...@gmail.com wrote:
 Based on the graphics, I think it probably belongs to the St. Louis
 Cardinals's television folks.  The SNY graphics look different
 (un-FOX-like).

 https://twitter.com/#!/BradGorson/status/184018938626187264/photo/1

Fox Sports indeed--Ken Levine posted the same thing earlier today, but
a different frame from the same point in the game:

http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2012/03/sunday-funny-fotos.html  (last
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi-TV: Genuine Dragon Tattoo DVD looks Pirated.

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On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sony Pictures made The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo DVDs look like burned
 DVD-Rs with printing that looks like a Sharpie-written title. It is so
 convincing that Redbox had to post a note telling people that Sony sent them
 like that, and this is not a case of them attempting to get around a 56-day
 rental block.

Borat did the much the same thing, but took it a step further; the
disc sold with an outer sleeve for the DVD case that looked like a
standard DVD slipcover, but when you slide the case out, the insert in
the case sleeve is a photocopied version of the outer sleeve in
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Re: [TV orNotTV] afternoon baseball game ran long?

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On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote:
 For NFL
 coverage, doesn't CBS usually can 60 Minutes if a game goes after about
 7:45?

They actually kill CSI: Miami at 10 across the whole network and
slip the rest an hour late.  (West coast and mountain time zones get a
repeat episode instead of the originally-planned new episode.)  The
official cut-off time is 7:57:56, though they've been known to
ignore that.

 On a the topic of CBS and delays due to sports, I like the graphics they're
 using this football season with a specific start time. Even though I only
 see them on padded DVR recordings, knowing that The Amazing Race starts at
 8:33 tells me exactly how long I have to skip.

Agreed--they're not too obtrusive, though it seems like it pops up
every three freakin' minutes...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: msnbc sez buh-bye, Cenk Uygur

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On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I understand there is a lot of logistics that went into deciding when
 the shuttle should land, but would it have been so bad to land
 Atlantis during the day when more Americans could have watched it,
 either in person or live on TV? I set my alarm and watched it as it
 happened, but at 3am PST I was basically watching it half-awake and
 out of one bloodshot eye. That said, I watched it live on NASA's free
 iPad app, with no commentary by any network blowhard. None of the
 networks have science editors anymore, let alone experts on space, so
 what would have been the point of hearing any of them speak?

For the record, CBS News still has Bill Harwood, who consults on space
news for them (and runs their obsessively-detailed CBS News Space
Place webpage).  He's also a contributor to spaceflightnow.com, where
Miles O'Brien landed after getting bounced from CNN.  Considering
O'Brien was going to become the first journalist to travel to the ISS
(NASA and CNN supposedly had come to an agreement just before Columbia
was destroyed in 2002), when I wanted commentary on shuttle flights
(which wasn't often), that's where I went.

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