date:20060913

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Hello,

With FF, after msg3,

Sec := FPSFT^.AcceptSecurityContext(@FHCred,
   pHCtx,
   @InBuffDesc,
   ASC_REQ_SEQUENCE_DETECT, // 
context requirements
   SECURITY_NATIVE_DREP,
   @FHCtx,
   @OutBuffDesc,
   ContextAttr,
   Lifetime);
if Sec < 0 then
begin // enters here with Sec = -2^31
{$IFDEF DEBUG_EXCEPTIONS}
raise Exception.CreateFmt('Init context failed: %d', [Sec]);
{$ELSE}
Result := '';
FState := lsDoneErr;
Exit;
{$ENDIF}
end;

Arno, do you have any idea?

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Here is the full log:
:
: FireFox 1.5.0.6:
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 Connection Opened
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Local
: GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
: (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
: Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
: en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
: windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
: keep-alive
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Remote
: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: 
NTLM..Content-Length:
: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
: Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
: ...
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Local
: GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
: (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
: Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
: en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
: windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
: keep-alive..Authorization: NTLM
: TlRMTVNTUAABB4IIAAA=
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Remote
: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM
: 
TlRMTVNTUAACDAAMADgFgooC/difEScUAFYAAEwATABEBQEoCg9MAEEAUABUAE8AUAACAAwATABBAFAAVABPAFAAAQAMAEwAQQBQAFQATwBQAAQADABsAGEAcAB0AG8AcAADAAwAbABhAHAAdABvAHAABgAEAAEA..Content-Length:
: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
: Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
: ...
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Local
: GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
: (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
: Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
: en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
: windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
: keep-alive..Authorization: NTLM
: 
TlRMTVNTUAADGAAYAGIYABgAegBAFgAWAEAMAAwAVgAABYIIAEcAbwByAGsAZQBtACAAQQB0AGUAcwBsAGEAcAB0AG8AcABc2JyvFDVzpwBShNO+26e7kFH0QwISJYTrsG5Xb3lYZkM=
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Remote
: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM
: ..Content-Length: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection:
: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ Reverse Proxy401
: ...
:
: Still asking for password hereForever...
:
: IE6XP:
:
: 13.09.2006 21:48:06 Connection Opened
:
: 13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Local
: GET / HTTP/1.1..Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, 
image/pjpeg,
: application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, 
application/msword,
: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*..Accept-Language: tr..Accept-Encoding:
: gzip, deflate..User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
: 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..Connection:
: Keep-Alive..Cookie: IQDomain="NAME=949BB1BDF325862423C53938CEA5EB6D
:
: 13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Remote
: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: 
NTLM..Content-Length:
: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: Keep-Alive..Server: Fastream IQ
: Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
: ...
:
: 13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Local
: GET / HTTP/1.1..Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, 
image/pjpeg,
: application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, 
application/msword,
: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*..Accept-Language: tr..Accept-Encoding:
: gzip, deflate..User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
: 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)..Hos

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Here is the full log:

FireFox 1.5.0.6:

13.09.2006 21:50:09 Connection Opened

13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
keep-alive

13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM..Content-Length:
629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
...

13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
keep-alive..Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAABB4IIAAA=

13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAACDAAMADgFgooC/difEScUAFYAAEwATABEBQEoCg9MAEEAUABUAE8AUAACAAwATABBAFAAVABPAFAAAQAMAEwAQQBQAFQATwBQAAQADABsAGEAcAB0AG8AcAADAAwAbABhAHAAdABvAHAABgAEAAEA..Content-Length:
629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
...

13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
keep-alive..Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAADGAAYAGIYABgAegBAFgAWAEAMAAwAVgAABYIIAEcAbwByAGsAZQBtACAAQQB0AGUAcwBsAGEAcAB0AG8AcABc2JyvFDVzpwBShNO+26e7kFH0QwISJYTrsG5Xb3lYZkM=

13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM
..Content-Length: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection:
keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ Reverse Proxy401
...

Still asking for password hereForever...

IE6XP:

13.09.2006 21:48:06 Connection Opened

13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*..Accept-Language: tr..Accept-Encoding:
gzip, deflate..User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..Connection:
Keep-Alive..Cookie: IQDomain="NAME=949BB1BDF325862423C53938CEA5EB6D

13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM..Content-Length:
629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: Keep-Alive..Server: Fastream IQ
Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
...

13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*..Accept-Language: tr..Accept-Encoding:
gzip, deflate..User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..Connection:
Keep-Alive..Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAABB7IIogkACQAuBgAGACgFASgKD0xBUFRPUFdPUktHUk9VUA==..Cookie:
IQDomain="NAME=949BB1BDF325862423C53938CEA5EB6D

13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAACDAAMADgFwoqi1rIk+abQsBfodhAAAEwATABEBQEoCg9MAEEAUABUAE8AUAACAAwATABBAFAAVABPAFAAAQAMAEwAQQBQAFQATwBQAAQADABsAGEAcAB0AG8AcAADAAwAbABhAHAAdABvAHAABgAEAAEA..Content-Length:
629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: Keep-Alive..Server: Fastream IQ
Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
...

13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, */*..Accept-Language: tr..Accept-Encoding:
gzip, deflate..User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..Connection:
Keep-Alive..Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAADAEgASABIAEgASABIBcKIogUBKAoP..Cookie:
IQDomain="NAME=949BB1BDF325862423C53938CEA5EB6D

13.09.2006 21:48:06 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 200 OK..Content-Typ

[twsocket] Interesting connect problem

2006-09-13 Thread Erich Kuba

Hi all,

I have recently noticed a couple of interesting entries in one of my system
logs from a Mail Relay Agent written using the TSMTPCli component, which
raises a few interesting questions.

Firstly here is a small extract from the system log

> 19:26:28 - Connecting to mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com
> 19:26:47 - Disconnected from mail server - mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com
> 19:26:47 - Connecting to mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com
> 19:41:57 - Disconnected from mail server - mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com
> 19:41:57 - Connecting to mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com
> 19:57:06 - Disconnected from mail server - mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com

The line that starts with "Connecting to" is written to the log as the
connect method is called.  The line that starts with "Disconnected from mail
server" is written when the OnSessionClosed event handler is fired.  So you
can see, particularly from the last two lines, it took 16min 9sec to fire
the event handler.

Now, this is NOT a TWSocket problem.  You can reproduce the problem from the
DOS command line with "telnet mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com 25".  However, it is
important to find a solution to this problem as the relay engine is
effectively being held up by this strange behaviour.  What should be said is
that the fact that the relay engine is even going to mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com
as a result of spam, so it's possible that the spammer has found this
interesting behaviour, and is exploiting it.

Any suggestions on how I can prevent this behaviour from holding up my
system in the future ??

Cheers

Erich


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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Maurizio Lotauro

Scrive Fastream Technologies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello,
> 
> Here is the problematic FF log:

[...]

A file version would be better, and of both browser.

> The IE6 response has a different WWW-authenticate. If NTLM is like Digest, 
> then they should not be expected to be similar anyway (due to hashing).

But they should not differ in the domain/user part.


Bye, Maurizio.


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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

News! Opera 9.01 available online from www.opera.com supports NTLM! :) Yet 
the bug also occurs on that software... :(

Arno, can you try my exe with Opera?

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: To sum up: we have just one bug/problem left. It is the FF compatibility 
and
: with IE it works fine now. However, Arno claims the code runs well on his
: FF1.5.0.6 but the same browser fails here to authenticate. I thought maybe
: that's because of my Turkish locale but neither my username nor my 
password
: contains any language-specific characters. Also user "a" with a blank
: password also fails. I have just one other browser that is Opera and it 
does
: not support NTLM. I tried with FlashGet and it worked fine in login mode
: though. So either this is a FF bug or what?
:
: Thanks to all who helped me today: Arno, Benjamin, Maurizio and everybody
: else who simply took our traffic!
:
: Best Regards,
:
: SZ
:
: - Original Message - 
: From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "ICS support mailing" 
: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:04 PM
: Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:
:
:: Hello,
::
:: Here is the problematic FF log:
::
:: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 Connection Opened
::
:: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Local
:: GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
:: (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
:: Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
::
: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
:: en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
:: windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
:: keep-alive
::
:: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Remote
:: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate:
: NTLM..Content-Length:
:: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
:: Reverse Proxy401
:: ...
::
:: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Local
:: GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
:: (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
:: Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
::
: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
:: en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
:: windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
:: keep-alive..Authorization: NTLM
:: TlRMTVNTUAABB4IIAAA=
::
:: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Remote
:: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM
::
: 
TlRMTVNTUAACDAAMADgFgooC/difEScUAFYAAEwATABEBQEoCg9MAEEAUABUAE8AUAACAAwATABBAFAAVABPAFAAAQAMAEwAQQBQAFQATwBQAAQADABsAGEAcAB0AG8AcAADAAwAbABhAHAAdABvAHAABgAEAAEA..Content-Length:
:: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
:: Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
:: Required401
:: ...
::
::
:: The IE6 response has a different WWW-authenticate. If NTLM is like 
Digest,
:: then they should not be expected to be similar anyway (due to hashing).
::
:: Regards,
::
:: SZ
::
:: - Original Message - 
:: From: "Maurizio Lotauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: To: "ICS support mailing" 
:: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:06 PM
:: Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
::
::
::: Scrive Fastream Technologies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
:::
::: [...]
:::
::: > Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue
: at
::: > least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?
:::
::: But does IE work? In that case compare the log made with ethereal.
:::
:::
::: Bye, Maurizio.
:::
:::
::: 
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

To sum up: we have just one bug/problem left. It is the FF compatibility and 
with IE it works fine now. However, Arno claims the code runs well on his 
FF1.5.0.6 but the same browser fails here to authenticate. I thought maybe 
that's because of my Turkish locale but neither my username nor my password 
contains any language-specific characters. Also user "a" with a blank 
password also fails. I have just one other browser that is Opera and it does 
not support NTLM. I tried with FlashGet and it worked fine in login mode 
though. So either this is a FF bug or what?

Thanks to all who helped me today: Arno, Benjamin, Maurizio and everybody 
else who simply took our traffic!

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Hello,
:
: Here is the problematic FF log:
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 Connection Opened
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Local
: GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
: (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
: Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
: en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
: windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
: keep-alive
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Remote
: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: 
NTLM..Content-Length:
: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
: Reverse Proxy401
: ...
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Local
: GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0
: (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728
: Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept:
: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
: en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset:
: windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection:
: keep-alive..Authorization: NTLM
: TlRMTVNTUAABB4IIAAA=
:
: 13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Remote
: HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM
: 
TlRMTVNTUAACDAAMADgFgooC/difEScUAFYAAEwATABEBQEoCg9MAEEAUABUAE8AUAACAAwATABBAFAAVABPAFAAAQAMAEwAQQBQAFQATwBQAAQADABsAGEAcAB0AG8AcAADAAwAbABhAHAAdABvAHAABgAEAAEA..Content-Length:
: 629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ
: Reverse Proxy401 Authorization
: Required401
: ...
:
:
: The IE6 response has a different WWW-authenticate. If NTLM is like Digest,
: then they should not be expected to be similar anyway (due to hashing).
:
: Regards,
:
: SZ
:
: - Original Message - 
: From: "Maurizio Lotauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "ICS support mailing" 
: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:06 PM
: Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:
:
:: Scrive Fastream Technologies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
::
:: [...]
::
:: > Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue 
at
:: > least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?
::
:: But does IE work? In that case compare the log made with ethereal.
::
::
:: Bye, Maurizio.
::
::
:: 
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Hello,

Here is the problematic FF log:

13.09.2006 21:50:09 Connection Opened

13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 
Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
 
en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset: 
windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection: 
keep-alive

13.09.2006 21:50:09 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM..Content-Length: 
629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ 
Reverse Proxy401
...

13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Local
GET / HTTP/1.1..Host: fastream.homeip.net:82..User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 
Firefox/1.5.0.6..Accept: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5..Accept-Language:
 
en-us,en;q=0.5..Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate..Accept-Charset: 
windows-1254,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7..Keep-Alive: 300..Connection: 
keep-alive..Authorization: NTLM 
TlRMTVNTUAABB4IIAAA=

13.09.2006 21:50:17 From Remote
HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required..WWW-Authenticate: NTLM 
TlRMTVNTUAACDAAMADgFgooC/difEScUAFYAAEwATABEBQEoCg9MAEEAUABUAE8AUAACAAwATABBAFAAVABPAFAAAQAMAEwAQQBQAFQATwBQAAQADABsAGEAcAB0AG8AcAADAAwAbABhAHAAdABvAHAABgAEAAEA..Content-Length:
 
629..Content-Type: text/html..Connection: keep-alive..Server: Fastream IQ 
Reverse Proxy401 Authorization 
Required401
...


The IE6 response has a different WWW-authenticate. If NTLM is like Digest, 
then they should not be expected to be similar anyway (due to hashing).

Regards,

SZ

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To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Scrive Fastream Technologies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
:
: [...]
:
: > Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue at
: > least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?
:
: But does IE work? In that case compare the log made with ethereal.
:
:
: Bye, Maurizio.
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Stadin, Benjamin

Fastream Technologies schrieb:
>
> Arno,
>
> You have the option to enter the NTLM domain name in msg1 of NTLM (base64
> encoded). That's what I mean.
I'm not Arno but again, in the browser a domain is only specified in the
form domain\user in the user field of the browser's login window *if* the
user's account you want to use is in another domain which is trusted by the
"server application domain". This is a special case.
I think this is not what you are trying to work with, so forget about it for
the moment.
Normally you may not be able (depends on security settings) to specify
another domain in the user field when the server application is running with
a user from a different domain than the user's specified domain name, or the
server app is using a local user. The auth request may fail then.
What sense would it make to use any domain you like? Why should the server
trust you?


> Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue at
> least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?
>
> Regards,
>
> SZ

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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Maurizio Lotauro

Scrive Fastream Technologies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

[...]

> Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue at 
> least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?

But does IE work? In that case compare the log made with ethereal.


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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Arno,
>> 
>> You have the option to enter the NTLM domain name in msg1 of NTLM
>> (base64 encoded). That's what I mean.

> Again: NTLM message 1 is sent by the the client/browser!!

The job was clearly "Implement NTLM support to THttpSrv" and not
"make my reverse proxy working with NTLM".

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> 
> Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue
> at least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stadin, Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Normally you won't have a reason to use another domain, the server
>> appplication uses the domain of the user account it is running with.
>> Make sure your application is running with the domain account you
>> want to use AND sufficent privileges (needed to query the user
>> database). 
>> 
>> You have to give a domain user using domain\user - if, an only if,
>> the server
>> you're sending this information to is in *another* domain (with
>> domain trustship) than the server application is working with.
>> 
>> So that's necessary when domains are set up to trust each other. The
>> Outlook web access I'm writing this email from prompts only for user
>> name and password. I use this webmailer for years and it has always
>> be the same, it looks the same with every browser that supports NTLM
>> auth (IE, Firefox, konqueror, countless others on Unix and Solaris).
>> 
>> I give you an example:
>> My user account is in the default domain "g" where the server is in,
>> but other users from a domain (ie "d") that is trusted by domain "g"
>> have to write d\myusername. The difference is that Windows will
>> query the trusted domain instead to look in it's own user database.
>> Only in this special case you need to specify another domain.
>> 
>> - You will need hm... I don't remember ...years ago.. (not admin
>> rights but at least "helper" privileges) to be able to query for
>> other domain users than yourself. It's the credentials from the
>> logged in (server) application user, if you are running with a local
>> account you won't be able to query the domain controller.
>> - You can *not* just give specify another domain in the user field
>> if the serevrs are not set up to trust each other
>> - You can also *not* authenticate users of another trusted domain,
>> if you use trusted domains, without your application user having
>> privileges in every of the trusted domains
>> 
>> Benjamin Stadin
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies schrieb:
>>> 
>>> Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to
>>> understand. 
>>> 
>>> There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not
>>> asked of any NTLM-domain name! And assuming that it is like IE-FTP
>>> client, I cannot find the log in change option in any menu! Does
>>> anybody know the logic behind this? I have seen the words of
>>> Francois but I am opting for just the opposite--instead of auto
>>> logging in, I want the _option_ to be able to select the NTLM-
>>> domain. 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Ok. I am trying to understand why the FF does not work...

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > Arno,
: > 
: > You have the option to enter the NTLM domain name in msg1 of NTLM
: > (base64 encoded). That's what I mean.
: 
: Again: NTLM message 1 is sent by the the client/browser!!
: 
: 
: > 
: > Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue
: > at least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?
: > 
: > Regards,
: > 
: > SZ
: > 
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Stadin, Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:38 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: > 
: > 
: >> Normally you won't have a reason to use another domain, the server
: >> appplication uses the domain of the user account it is running with.
: >> Make sure your application is running with the domain account you
: >> want to use AND sufficent privileges (needed to query the user
: >> database). 
: >> 
: >> You have to give a domain user using domain\user - if, an only if,
: >> the server
: >> you're sending this information to is in *another* domain (with
: >> domain trustship) than the server application is working with.
: >> 
: >> So that's necessary when domains are set up to trust each other. The
: >> Outlook web access I'm writing this email from prompts only for user
: >> name and password. I use this webmailer for years and it has always
: >> be the same, it looks the same with every browser that supports NTLM
: >> auth (IE, Firefox, konqueror, countless others on Unix and Solaris).
: >> 
: >> I give you an example:
: >> My user account is in the default domain "g" where the server is in,
: >> but other users from a domain (ie "d") that is trusted by domain "g"
: >> have to write d\myusername. The difference is that Windows will
: >> query the trusted domain instead to look in it's own user database.
: >> Only in this special case you need to specify another domain.
: >> 
: >> - You will need hm... I don't remember ...years ago.. (not admin
: >> rights but at least "helper" privileges) to be able to query for
: >> other domain users than yourself. It's the credentials from the
: >> logged in (server) application user, if you are running with a local
: >> account you won't be able to query the domain controller.
: >> - You can *not* just give specify another domain in the user field
: >> if the serevrs are not set up to trust each other
: >> - You can also *not* authenticate users of another trusted domain,
: >> if you use trusted domains, without your application user having
: >> privileges in every of the trusted domains
: >> 
: >> Benjamin Stadin
: >> 
: >> 
: >> 
: >> Fastream Technologies schrieb:
: >>> 
: >>> Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to
: >>> understand. 
: >>> 
: >>> There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not
: >>> asked of any NTLM-domain name! And assuming that it is like IE-FTP
: >>> client, I cannot find the log in change option in any menu! Does
: >>> anybody know the logic behind this? I have seen the words of
: >>> Francois but I am opting for just the opposite--instead of auto
: >>> logging in, I want the _option_ to be able to select the NTLM-
: >>> domain. 
: >>> 
: >>> Best Regards,
: >>> 
: >>> SZ
: >> 
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Arno,
> 
> You have the option to enter the NTLM domain name in msg1 of NTLM
> (base64 encoded). That's what I mean.

Again: NTLM message 1 is sent by the the client/browser!!


> 
> Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue
> at least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stadin, Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Normally you won't have a reason to use another domain, the server
>> appplication uses the domain of the user account it is running with.
>> Make sure your application is running with the domain account you
>> want to use AND sufficent privileges (needed to query the user
>> database). 
>> 
>> You have to give a domain user using domain\user - if, an only if,
>> the server
>> you're sending this information to is in *another* domain (with
>> domain trustship) than the server application is working with.
>> 
>> So that's necessary when domains are set up to trust each other. The
>> Outlook web access I'm writing this email from prompts only for user
>> name and password. I use this webmailer for years and it has always
>> be the same, it looks the same with every browser that supports NTLM
>> auth (IE, Firefox, konqueror, countless others on Unix and Solaris).
>> 
>> I give you an example:
>> My user account is in the default domain "g" where the server is in,
>> but other users from a domain (ie "d") that is trusted by domain "g"
>> have to write d\myusername. The difference is that Windows will
>> query the trusted domain instead to look in it's own user database.
>> Only in this special case you need to specify another domain.
>> 
>> - You will need hm... I don't remember ...years ago.. (not admin
>> rights but at least "helper" privileges) to be able to query for
>> other domain users than yourself. It's the credentials from the
>> logged in (server) application user, if you are running with a local
>> account you won't be able to query the domain controller.
>> - You can *not* just give specify another domain in the user field
>> if the serevrs are not set up to trust each other
>> - You can also *not* authenticate users of another trusted domain,
>> if you use trusted domains, without your application user having
>> privileges in every of the trusted domains
>> 
>> Benjamin Stadin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies schrieb:
>>> 
>>> Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to
>>> understand. 
>>> 
>>> There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not
>>> asked of any NTLM-domain name! And assuming that it is like IE-FTP
>>> client, I cannot find the log in change option in any menu! Does
>>> anybody know the logic behind this? I have seen the words of
>>> Francois but I am opting for just the opposite--instead of auto
>>> logging in, I want the _option_ to be able to select the NTLM-
>>> domain. 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Maurizio Lotauro

Scrive Fastream Technologies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I think there is a misundestanding. Yes that's what the page says and I 
> mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF displays domain
> 
> as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" 
> should be displayed there.

Why? A domain name is not the name of a PC nor an IP address.


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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Arno,

You have the option to enter the NTLM domain name in msg1 of NTLM (base64 
encoded). That's what I mean.

Second, I still cannot get the FF to work. I believe this is an issue at 
least some customers would complain if I deploy now, wrong?

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Stadin, Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Normally you won't have a reason to use another domain, the server
: appplication uses the domain of the user account it is running with.
: Make sure your application is running with the domain account you want to
: use AND sufficent privileges (needed to query the user database).
:
: You have to give a domain user using domain\user - if, an only if, the
: server
: you're sending this information to is in *another* domain (with domain
: trustship) than the server application is working with.
:
: So that's necessary when domains are set up to trust each other. The 
Outlook
: web access I'm writing this email from prompts only for user name and
: password. I use this webmailer for years and it has always be the same, it
: looks the same with every browser that supports NTLM auth (IE, Firefox,
: konqueror, countless others on Unix and Solaris).
:
: I give you an example:
: My user account is in the default domain "g" where the server is in, but
: other users from a domain (ie "d") that is trusted by domain "g" have to
: write d\myusername. The difference is that Windows will query the trusted
: domain instead to look in it's own user database. Only in this special 
case
: you need to specify another domain.
:
: - You will need hm... I don't remember ...years ago.. (not admin rights 
but
: at least "helper" privileges) to be able to query for other domain users
: than yourself. It's the credentials from the logged in (server) 
application
: user, if you are running with a local account you won't be able to query 
the
: domain controller.
: - You can *not* just give specify another domain in the user field if the
: serevrs are not set up to trust each other
: - You can also *not* authenticate users of another trusted domain, if you
: use trusted domains, without your application user having privileges in
: every of the trusted domains
:
: Benjamin Stadin
:
:
:
: Fastream Technologies schrieb:
: >
: > Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to understand.
: >
: > There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not asked
: of
: > any NTLM-domain name! And assuming that it is like IE-FTP client, I 
cannot
: > find the log in change option in any menu! Does anybody know the logic
: > behind this? I have seen the words of Francois but I am opting for just
: the
: > opposite--instead of auto logging in, I want the _option_ to be able to
: > select the NTLM-domain.
: >
: > Best Regards,
: >
: > SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok but let's say the server is running on multiple domains using a
> domain 
> controller. 

Then I guess that the default authenticating authority will be the DC, 
someone  needs to test that, anybody out there with a domain environment? 

> At simplest, a normal domain and the local domain.

I've never heard of a local domain, either your webserver box is a member of a 
domain
or it is a standalone box (in this case you have to ensure that any account is 
locally,
physically available on the webserver box).

> How
> does the 
> client decides which one of them to log on to? 

The client cannot know that in the firstplace, it only gets the WWW-Authenticate
headers, they do not include any domain information.

And why don't you fill
> in the 
> domain field in the NTLM msg 1?

I don't fill it in, the client fills it in!!

> 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to
>> understand. 
>> 
>> There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not
>> asked of
>> any NTLM-domain name!
> 
> Because there's no Domain information anywhere, The server just sends
> HTTP header "WWW-Athenticate: NTLM". The client the initiates
> NTLM authentication by sending the NTLM message 1 (which has a domain
> field, but that's mostly not filled)
> 
> 
>> And assuming that it is like IE-FTP client, I
>> cannot
>> find the log in change option in any menu! Does anybody know the
>> logic behind this? I have seen the words of Francois but I am opting
>> for just the
>> opposite--instead of auto logging in, I want the _option_ to be able
>> to
>> select the NTLM-domain.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I mean the base64 message not the HTTP header.
>> 
>> I'll give it up soon...
>> THIS IS A CLIENT ISSUE!!
>> The same happens when you try to access a protected page on
>> IIS.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Again,
>>> 
>>> I think there is a misunderstanding. Yes that's what the page says
>>> and I
>>> mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF
>>> displays domain
>>> as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or
>>> "127.0.0.1"
>>> should be displayed there.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 I do not believe the empty domain implementation is correct!!
>>> 
>>> What do you mean by that? A missing Domain HTTP header field?
>>> At least in my environment both IE as IIS do not sent any HTTP
>>> Domain header. AND M$ invented NTLM, it is undocumented.
>>> 
 Regards,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Francois,
> 
> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not
> let me
> inspect:
 
 AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
 problem
 has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
 Netscape
 as well.
 
 
> 
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>> includes a space. Could this matter?
> 
> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
> yourself?
> I created one including a space as well as including German
> spezific characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü,
> and ß which is another form of ss.
> 
> 
>> Should there be made any
>> encoding/decoding?
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [tws

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Thank you for the explanation Benjamin! I got it now. BTW, one note for 
others: Opera does not support NTLM. :(

- Original Message - 
From: "Stadin, Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

: Normally you won't have a reason to use another domain, the server
: appplication uses the domain of the user account it is running with.
: Make sure your application is running with the domain account you want to
: use AND sufficent privileges (needed to query the user database).
:
: You have to give a domain user using domain\user - if, an only if, the
: server
: you're sending this information to is in *another* domain (with domain
: trustship) than the server application is working with.
:
: So that's necessary when domains are set up to trust each other. The 
Outlook
: web access I'm writing this email from prompts only for user name and
: password. I use this webmailer for years and it has always be the same, it
: looks the same with every browser that supports NTLM auth (IE, Firefox,
: konqueror, countless others on Unix and Solaris).
:
: I give you an example:
: My user account is in the default domain "g" where the server is in, but
: other users from a domain (ie "d") that is trusted by domain "g" have to
: write d\myusername. The difference is that Windows will query the trusted
: domain instead to look in it's own user database. Only in this special 
case
: you need to specify another domain.
:
: - You will need hm... I don't remember ...years ago.. (not admin rights 
but
: at least "helper" privileges) to be able to query for other domain users
: than yourself. It's the credentials from the logged in (server) 
application
: user, if you are running with a local account you won't be able to query 
the
: domain controller.
: - You can *not* just give specify another domain in the user field if the
: serevrs are not set up to trust each other
: - You can also *not* authenticate users of another trusted domain, if you
: use trusted domains, without your application user having privileges in
: every of the trusted domains
:
: Benjamin Stadin
:
:
:
: Fastream Technologies schrieb:
: >
: > Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to understand.
: >
: > There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not asked
: of
: > any NTLM-domain name! And assuming that it is like IE-FTP client, I 
cannot
: > find the log in change option in any menu! Does anybody know the logic
: > behind this? I have seen the words of Francois but I am opting for just
: the
: > opposite--instead of auto logging in, I want the _option_ to be able to
: > select the NTLM-domain.
: >
: > Best Regards,
: >
: > SZ
:
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Stadin, Benjamin

Normally you won't have a reason to use another domain, the server
appplication uses the domain of the user account it is running with.
Make sure your application is running with the domain account you want to
use AND sufficent privileges (needed to query the user database).

You have to give a domain user using domain\user - if, an only if, the
server
you're sending this information to is in *another* domain (with domain
trustship) than the server application is working with.

So that's necessary when domains are set up to trust each other. The Outlook
web access I'm writing this email from prompts only for user name and
password. I use this webmailer for years and it has always be the same, it
looks the same with every browser that supports NTLM auth (IE, Firefox,
konqueror, countless others on Unix and Solaris).

I give you an example:
My user account is in the default domain "g" where the server is in, but
other users from a domain (ie "d") that is trusted by domain "g" have to
write d\myusername. The difference is that Windows will query the trusted
domain instead to look in it's own user database. Only in this special case
you need to specify another domain.

- You will need hm... I don't remember ...years ago.. (not admin rights but
at least "helper" privileges) to be able to query for other domain users
than yourself. It's the credentials from the logged in (server) application
user, if you are running with a local account you won't be able to query the
domain controller.
- You can *not* just give specify another domain in the user field if the
serevrs are not set up to trust each other
- You can also *not* authenticate users of another trusted domain, if you
use trusted domains, without your application user having privileges in
every of the trusted domains

Benjamin Stadin



Fastream Technologies schrieb:
>
> Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to understand.
>
> There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not asked
of
> any NTLM-domain name! And assuming that it is like IE-FTP client, I cannot
> find the log in change option in any menu! Does anybody know the logic
> behind this? I have seen the words of Francois but I am opting for just
the
> opposite--instead of auto logging in, I want the _option_ to be able to
> select the NTLM-domain.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ

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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Ok but let's say the server is running on multiple domains using a domain 
controller. At simplest, a normal domain and the local domain. How does the 
client decides which one of them to log on to? And why don't you fill in the 
domain field in the NTLM msg 1?

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to understand.
>
> There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not
> asked of
> any NTLM-domain name!

Because there's no Domain information anywhere, The server just sends
HTTP header "WWW-Athenticate: NTLM". The client the initiates
NTLM authentication by sending the NTLM message 1 (which has a domain
field, but that's mostly not filled)


> And assuming that it is like IE-FTP client, I
> cannot
> find the log in change option in any menu! Does anybody know the logic
> behind this? I have seen the words of Francois but I am opting for
> just the
> opposite--instead of auto logging in, I want the _option_ to be able
> to
> select the NTLM-domain.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I mean the base64 message not the HTTP header.
>
> I'll give it up soon...
> THIS IS A CLIENT ISSUE!!
> The same happens when you try to access a protected page on
> IIS.
>
>>
>>
>> Again,
>>
>> I think there is a misunderstanding. Yes that's what the page says
>> and I
>> mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF displays
>> domain
>> as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or
>> "127.0.0.1"
>> should be displayed there.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I do not believe the empty domain implementation is correct!!
>>
>> What do you mean by that? A missing Domain HTTP header field?
>> At least in my environment both IE as IIS do not sent any HTTP Domain
>> header. AND M$ invented NTLM, it is undocumented.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> SZ
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>>
>>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Hello Arno and Francois,

 I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not
 let me
 inspect:
>>>
>>> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
>>> problem
>>> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
>>> Netscape
>>> as well.
>>>
>>>

 http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png

 Best Regards,

 SZ

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
> includes a space. Could this matter?

 Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
 yourself?
 I created one including a space as well as including German
 spezific characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü,
 and ß which is another form of ss.


> Should there be made any
> encoding/decoding?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Did you try a non-80 port?
>>
>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>
>>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>
> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>
> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running o

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to understand.
> 
> There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not
> asked of 
> any NTLM-domain name! 

Because there's no Domain information anywhere, The server just sends
HTTP header "WWW-Athenticate: NTLM". The client the initiates 
NTLM authentication by sending the NTLM message 1 (which has a domain
field, but that's mostly not filled)


> And assuming that it is like IE-FTP client, I
> cannot 
> find the log in change option in any menu! Does anybody know the logic
> behind this? I have seen the words of Francois but I am opting for
> just the 
> opposite--instead of auto logging in, I want the _option_ to be able
> to 
> select the NTLM-domain.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I mean the base64 message not the HTTP header.
> 
> I'll give it up soon...
> THIS IS A CLIENT ISSUE!!
> The same happens when you try to access a protected page on
> IIS.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Again,
>> 
>> I think there is a misunderstanding. Yes that's what the page says
>> and I
>> mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF displays
>> domain
>> as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or
>> "127.0.0.1"
>> should be displayed there.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I do not believe the empty domain implementation is correct!!
>> 
>> What do you mean by that? A missing Domain HTTP header field?
>> At least in my environment both IE as IIS do not sent any HTTP Domain
>> header. AND M$ invented NTLM, it is undocumented.
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Hello Arno and Francois,
 
 I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not
 let me
 inspect:
>>> 
>>> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
>>> problem
>>> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
>>> Netscape
>>> as well.
>>> 
>>> 
 
 http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
 
 Best Regards,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
> includes a space. Could this matter?
 
 Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
 yourself?
 I created one including a space as well as including German
 spezific characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü,
 and ß which is another form of ss.
 
 
> Should there be made any
> encoding/decoding?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Did you try a non-80 port?
>> 
>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>> 
>>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question) 
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Everybody,
> 
> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
> 
> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
> Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work
> group. It does not let
> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
> stated ("") and asked for!
 
 I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
 successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
 The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Ok, thank you for tolerating my insistence. I am trying to understand.

There is just one issue left: under IE6XP, when I log in, I am not asked of 
any NTLM-domain name! And assuming that it is like IE-FTP client, I cannot 
find the log in change option in any menu! Does anybody know the logic 
behind this? I have seen the words of Francois but I am opting for just the 
opposite--instead of auto logging in, I want the _option_ to be able to 
select the NTLM-domain.

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I mean the base64 message not the HTTP header.

I'll give it up soon...
THIS IS A CLIENT ISSUE!!
The same happens when you try to access a protected page on
IIS.

>
>
> Again,
>
> I think there is a misunderstanding. Yes that's what the page says
> and I
> mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF displays
> domain
> as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or
> "127.0.0.1"
> should be displayed there.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I do not believe the empty domain implementation is correct!!
>
> What do you mean by that? A missing Domain HTTP header field?
> At least in my environment both IE as IIS do not sent any HTTP Domain
> header. AND M$ invented NTLM, it is undocumented.
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Francois,
>>>
>>> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
>>> me
>>> inspect:
>>
>> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
>> problem
>> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
>> Netscape
>> as well.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> SZ
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>>
>>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
 includes a space. Could this matter?
>>>
>>> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
>>> yourself?
>>> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
>>> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
>>> is another form of ss.
>>>
>>>
 Should there be made any
 encoding/decoding?

 Best Regards,

 SZ

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Did you try a non-80 port?
>
> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>
>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Hello Arno and Everybody,

 Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
 http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.

 This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
 Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
 It does not let
 me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
 stated ("") and asked for!
>>>
>>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in
>>> FF.
>>>
>>>

 Best Regards,

 SZ

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>
> BTW: In

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I mean the base64 message not the HTTP header.

I'll give it up soon...
THIS IS A CLIENT ISSUE!!
The same happens when you try to access a protected page on
IIS.

> 
> 
> Again,
> 
> I think there is a misunderstanding. Yes that's what the page says
> and I 
> mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF displays
> domain 
> as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or
> "127.0.0.1" 
> should be displayed there.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I do not believe the empty domain implementation is correct!!
> 
> What do you mean by that? A missing Domain HTTP header field?
> At least in my environment both IE as IIS do not sent any HTTP Domain
> header. AND M$ invented NTLM, it is undocumented.
> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Francois,
>>> 
>>> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
>>> me
>>> inspect:
>> 
>> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
>> problem
>> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
>> Netscape
>> as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
 includes a space. Could this matter?
>>> 
>>> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
>>> yourself?
>>> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
>>> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
>>> is another form of ss.
>>> 
>>> 
 Should there be made any
 encoding/decoding?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Did you try a non-80 port?
> 
> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
> 
>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Hello Arno and Everybody,
 
 Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
 http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
 
 This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
 Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
 It does not let
 me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
 stated ("") and asked for!
>>> 
>>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in
>>> FF. 
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
> 
> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though
> this is most likely not the problem here.
> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>> question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 
>>> Please check my private message.
>>> 
>>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>>> 
 
 Rgrds,
>>>

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

I mean the base64 message not the HTTP header.


Again,

I think there is a misunderstanding. Yes that's what the page says and I
mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF displays domain
as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or "127.0.0.1"
should be displayed there.

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I do not believe the empty domain implementation is correct!!

What do you mean by that? A missing Domain HTTP header field?
At least in my environment both IE as IIS do not sent any HTTP Domain
header. AND M$ invented NTLM, it is undocumented.

> Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Francois,
>>
>> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
>> me
>> inspect:
>
> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
> problem
> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
> Netscape
> as well.
>
>
>>
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>>> includes a space. Could this matter?
>>
>> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
>> yourself?
>> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
>> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
>> is another form of ss.
>>
>>
>>> Should there be made any
>>> encoding/decoding?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> SZ
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Did you try a non-80 port?

 No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?

> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>>
>>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>>
>>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
>>> Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>>> It does not let
>>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>>> stated ("") and asked for!
>>
>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> SZ
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!

 BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though
 this is most likely not the problem here.

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
> question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>>
>> Please check my private message.
>>
>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>>
>>>
>>> Rgrds,
>>>
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or
> "127.0.0.1" 
> should be displayed there.

Ask the FireFox developer to fix it.


> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> In this site: http://www.innovation.ch/personal/ronald/ntlm.html the
>> domain
>> names (both the HTTP and NTLM domains) are said to be transmitted in
>> the
>> base64 encoding msgs.
> 
> Where have you read that? Give us a search string, not everybody is
> willing 
> to study the this page from the beginning.
> 
> Domain fields exists in the NTLM messages, not in any other HTTP
> header. 
> AND I've never seen a client/browser that fills the Domain field in
> NTLM 
> message 1.
> 
> 
> Could you check this out? I do not believe the
>> empty
>> domain implementation is correct!!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Francois,
>>> 
>>> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
>>> me
>>> inspect:
>> 
>> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
>> problem
>> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
>> Netscape
>> as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
 includes a space. Could this matter?
>>> 
>>> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
>>> yourself?
>>> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
>>> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
>>> is another form of ss.
>>> 
>>> 
 Should there be made any
 encoding/decoding?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Did you try a non-80 port?
> 
> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
> 
>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Hello Arno and Everybody,
 
 Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
 http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
 
 This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
 Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
 It does not let
 me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
 stated ("") and asked for!
>>> 
>>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in
>>> FF. 
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
> 
> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though
> this is most likely not the problem here.
> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>> question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 
>>> Please check my private message.
>>> 
>>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>>>

Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I do not believe the empty domain implementation is correct!!

What do you mean by that? A missing Domain HTTP header field?
At least in my environment both IE as IIS do not sent any HTTP Domain
header. AND M$ invented NTLM, it is undocumented.  
 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Francois,
>> 
>> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
>> me
>> inspect:
> 
> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
> problem 
> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
> Netscape 
> as well.
> 
> 
>> 
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>>> includes a space. Could this matter?
>> 
>> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
>> yourself?
>> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
>> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
>> is another form of ss.
>> 
>> 
>>> Should there be made any
>>> encoding/decoding?
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Did you try a non-80 port?
 
 No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
 
> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>> 
>>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>> 
>>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
>>> Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>>> It does not let
>>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>>> stated ("") and asked for!
>> 
>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question) 
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
 
 BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though
 this is most likely not the problem here.
 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
> question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> 
>> Please check my private message.
>> 
>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>> 
>>> 
>>> Rgrds,
>>> 
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

I think there is a misundestanding. Yes that's what the page says and I 
mean: the "msg" contains the domain BUT in your code, the FF displays domain 
as "" (null). That needs to be fixed. At least "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" 
should be displayed there.

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In this site: http://www.innovation.ch/personal/ronald/ntlm.html the
> domain
> names (both the HTTP and NTLM domains) are said to be transmitted in
> the
> base64 encoding msgs.

Where have you read that? Give us a search string, not everybody is willing
to study the this page from the beginning.

Domain fields exists in the NTLM messages, not in any other HTTP header.
AND I've never seen a client/browser that fills the Domain field in NTLM
message 1.


Could you check this out? I do not believe the
> empty
> domain implementation is correct!!
>
> Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Francois,
>>
>> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
>> me
>> inspect:
>
> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
> problem
> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
> Netscape
> as well.
>
>
>>
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>>> includes a space. Could this matter?
>>
>> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
>> yourself?
>> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
>> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
>> is another form of ss.
>>
>>
>>> Should there be made any
>>> encoding/decoding?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> SZ
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Did you try a non-80 port?

 No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?

> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>>
>>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>>
>>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
>>> Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>>> It does not let
>>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>>> stated ("") and asked for!
>>
>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> SZ
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!

 BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though
 this is most likely not the problem here.

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
> question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>>
>> Please check my private message.
>>
>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>>
>>>
>>> Rgrds,
>>>
>>> SZ
>> --
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> In this site: http://www.innovation.ch/personal/ronald/ntlm.html the
> domain 
> names (both the HTTP and NTLM domains) are said to be transmitted in
> the 
> base64 encoding msgs. 

Where have you read that? Give us a search string, not everybody is willing
to study the this page from the beginning. 

Domain fields exists in the NTLM messages, not in any other HTTP header.
AND I've never seen a client/browser that fills the Domain field in NTLM
message 1.


Could you check this out? I do not believe the
> empty 
> domain implementation is correct!!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Francois,
>> 
>> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
>> me
>> inspect:
> 
> AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your
> problem 
> has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try
> Netscape 
> as well.
> 
> 
>> 
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>>> includes a space. Could this matter?
>> 
>> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
>> yourself?
>> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
>> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
>> is another form of ss.
>> 
>> 
>>> Should there be made any
>>> encoding/decoding?
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Did you try a non-80 port?
 
 No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
 
> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>> 
>>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>> 
>>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a
>>> Windows XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>>> It does not let
>>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>>> stated ("") and asked for!
>> 
>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question) 
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
 
 BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though
 this is most likely not the problem here.
 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
> question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> 
>> Please check my private message.
>> 
>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>> 
>>> 
>>> Rgrds,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>> --
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

IE makes some assumptions which is not the correct way to test against 
server software!

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Francois,
>
> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
> me
> inspect:

AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your problem
has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try Netscape
as well.


>
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>> includes a space. Could this matter?
>
> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
> yourself?
> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
> is another form of ss.
>
>
>> Should there be made any
>> encoding/decoding?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Did you try a non-80 port?
>>>
>>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>>
 Maybe that requires a domain in the header?

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>
>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>
>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
>> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>> It does not let
>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>> stated ("") and asked for!
>
> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>
>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>>>
>>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>>> is most likely not the problem here.
>>>

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>
> Please check my private message.
>
> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>
>>
>> Rgrds,
>>
>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Hello,

In this site: http://www.innovation.ch/personal/ronald/ntlm.html the domain 
names (both the HTTP and NTLM domains) are said to be transmitted in the 
base64 encoding msgs. Could you check this out? I do not believe the empty 
domain implementation is correct!!

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Francois,
>
> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
> me
> inspect:

AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your problem
has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try Netscape
as well.


>
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>> includes a space. Could this matter?
>
> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
> yourself?
> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
> is another form of ss.
>
>
>> Should there be made any
>> encoding/decoding?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Did you try a non-80 port?
>>>
>>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>>
 Maybe that requires a domain in the header?

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>
>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>
>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
>> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>> It does not let
>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>> stated ("") and asked for!
>
> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>
>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>>>
>>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>>> is most likely not the problem here.
>>>

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>
> Please check my private message.
>
> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>
>>
>> Rgrds,
>>
>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Francois,
> 
> I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let
> me 
> inspect:

AFAIK it's not possible to do that, and BTW I don't believe your problem
has to do with the ICS server. IE works for you, right? You may try Netscape
as well. 


> 
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>> includes a space. Could this matter?
> 
> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
> yourself?
> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
> is another form of ss.
> 
> 
>> Should there be made any
>> encoding/decoding?
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Did you try a non-80 port?
>>> 
>>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>> 
 Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>> 
>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>> 
>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
>> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>> It does not let
>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>> stated ("") and asked for!
> 
> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>>> 
>>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>>> is most likely not the problem here.
>>> 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> 
> Please check my private message.
> 
> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
> 
>> 
>> Rgrds,
>> 
>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Could anybody else also try it? We cannot be the only people using this http 
server component--this is for all users!

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I created an admin user with the name "a" and no password still no
> luck! :(

My test user has just limited privileges (User), it also works fine when
I run the server just as User with limited privileges.

>
> Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>> includes a space. Could this matter?
>
> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
> yourself?
> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
> is another form of ss.
>
>
>> Should there be made any
>> encoding/decoding?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Did you try a non-80 port?
>>>
>>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>>
 Maybe that requires a domain in the header?

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>
>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>
>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
>> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>> It does not let
>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>> stated ("") and asked for!
>
> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>
>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> SZ
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>
>>
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>>>
>>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>>> is most likely not the problem here.
>>>

 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)


> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>
> Please check my private message.
>
> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>
>>
>> Rgrds,
>>
>> SZ
> --
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I created an admin user with the name "a" and no password still no
> luck! :( 

My test user has just limited privileges (User), it also works fine when 
I run the server just as User with limited privileges.

> 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
>> includes a space. Could this matter?
> 
> Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
> yourself?
> I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
> characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
> is another form of ss.
> 
> 
>> Should there be made any
>> encoding/decoding?
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Did you try a non-80 port?
>>> 
>>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>> 
 Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>> 
>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>> 
>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
>> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>> It does not let
>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
>> stated ("") and asked for!
> 
> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>>> 
>>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>>> is most likely not the problem here.
>>> 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
 question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> 
> Please check my private message.
> 
> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
> 
>> 
>> Rgrds,
>> 
>> SZ
> --
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Hello Arno and Francois,

I cannot debug Arno's demo: It stops at breakpoints but does not let me 
inspect:

http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot2.png

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
> includes a space. Could this matter?

Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
yourself?
I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
is another form of ss.


> Should there be made any
> encoding/decoding?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Did you try a non-80 port?
>>
>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>
>>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>
> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>
> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
> It does not let
> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
> stated ("") and asked for!

 I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
 successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
 The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.


>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>>
>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>> is most likely not the problem here.
>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
>
 Please check my private message.

 Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!

>
> Rgrds,
>
> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

I created an admin user with the name "a" and no password still no luck! :(

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
> includes a space. Could this matter?

Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
yourself?
I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
is another form of ss.


> Should there be made any
> encoding/decoding?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Did you try a non-80 port?
>>
>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>>
>>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>
> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>
> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
> It does not let
> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
> stated ("") and asked for!

 I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
 successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
 The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.


>
> Best Regards,
>
> SZ
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>
>
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>>
>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>> is most likely not the problem here.
>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question)
>>>
>>>
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
>
 Please check my private message.

 Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!

>
> Rgrds,
>
> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username
> includes a space. Could this matter? 

Why don't you create a new account w/o a space and try that out by
yourself?
I created one including a space as well as including German spezific
characters above 128 such as so called Umlauts like Ü,ü, and ß which
is another form of ss. 


> Should there be made any
> encoding/decoding? 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Did you try a non-80 port?
>> 
>> No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
>> 
>>> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Everybody,
> 
> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
> 
> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows
> XP Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
> It does not let
> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not
> stated ("") and asked for!
 
 I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
 successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
 The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
 
 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>> 
>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>> is most likely not the problem here.
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM
>>> question) 
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> 
 Please check my private message.
 
 Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
 
> 
> Rgrds,
> 
> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Ok. It is not related with port. One idea: my Windows username includes a 
space. Could this matter? Should there be made any encoding/decoding?

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > Did you try a non-80 port?
:
: No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?
:
: > Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
: >>>
: >>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
: >>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
: >>>
: >>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows XP
: >>> Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
: >>> It does not let
: >>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not stated
: >>> ("") and asked for!
: >>
: >> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
: >> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
: >> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
: >>
: >>
: >>>
: >>> Best Regards,
: >>>
: >>> SZ
: >>>
: >>> - Original Message -
: >>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
: >>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >>>
: >>>
:  Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
: 
:  BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
:  is most likely not the problem here.
: 
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>>
: >> Please check my private message.
: >>
: >> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
: >>
: >>>
: >>> Rgrds,
: >>>
: >>> SZ
: >> --
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Did you try a non-80 port? 

No I haven't, have you tried the standard port?

> Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Hello Arno and Everybody,
>>> 
>>> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
>>> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
>>> 
>>> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows XP
>>> Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
>>> It does not let
>>> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not stated
>>> ("") and asked for!
>> 
>> I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
>> successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
>> The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
 
 BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
 is most likely not the problem here.
 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> 
>> Please check my private message.
>> 
>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>> 
>>> 
>>> Rgrds,
>>> 
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Here is what we are talking about with Arno for others:

http://www.fastream.com/ics/OverbyteIcsWebServBCB.zip (includes exe, 412KB)

Use the URL: http://localhost/demo.html

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Did you try a non-80 port? Maybe that requires a domain in the header?
: 
: - Original Message - 
: From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "ICS support mailing" 
: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
: Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: 
: 
:: Fastream Technologies wrote:
:: > Hello Arno and Everybody,
:: > 
:: > Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
:: > http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
:: > 
:: > This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows XP
:: > Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
:: > It does not let
:: > me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not stated
:: > ("") and asked for!
:: 
:: I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
:: successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
:: The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.  
:: 
:: 
:: > 
:: > Best Regards,
:: > 
:: > SZ
:: > 
:: > - Original Message -
:: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
:: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
:: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:: > 
:: > 
:: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
:: >>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
:: >> 
:: >> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
:: >> is most likely not the problem here.
:: >> 
:: >>> 
:: >>> - Original Message -
:: >>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: >>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
:: >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
:: >>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:: >>> 
:: >>> 
::  Fastream Technologies wrote:
:: > 
::  Please check my private message.
::  
::  Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
::  
:: > 
:: > Rgrds,
:: > 
:: > SZ
::  --
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Did you try a non-80 port? Maybe that requires a domain in the header?

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > Hello Arno and Everybody,
: > 
: > Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
: > http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
: > 
: > This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows XP
: > Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
: > It does not let
: > me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not stated
: > ("") and asked for!
: 
: I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
: successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
: The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.  
: 
: 
: > 
: > Best Regards,
: > 
: > SZ
: > 
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: > 
: > 
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
: >> 
: >> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
: >> is most likely not the problem here.
: >> 
: >>> 
: >>> - Original Message -
: >>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
: >>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >>> 
: >>> 
:  Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > 
:  Please check my private message.
:  
:  Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
:  
: > 
: > Rgrds,
: > 
: > SZ
:  --
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Hello Arno and Everybody,
> 
> Could you look at this screenshot carefully:
> http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.
> 
> This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows XP
> Pro with no domain controller and just a work group.
> It does not let
> me authenticate and there is no domain information--both not stated
> ("") and asked for!

I tried the same config, both your bin and FF locally on XP Pro
successfully. Sure the account must be on the same box.
The NTLM 401 doesn't send a domain header, so you see ("") in FF.  


> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
>> 
>> BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
>> is most likely not the problem here.
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> 
 Please check my private message.
 
 Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
 
> 
> Rgrds,
> 
> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Hello Arno and Everybody,

Could you look at this screenshot carefully: 
http://www.fastream.com/ics/arnoscreenshot.png.

This is Arno's demo compiled with BCB2k6 and running on a Windows XP Pro 
with no domain controller and just a work group. It does not let me 
authenticate and there is no domain information--both not stated ("") and 
asked for!

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!
:
: BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
: is most likely not the problem here.
:
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>>
: >> Please check my private message.
: >>
: >> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
: >>
: >>>
: >>> Rgrds,
: >>>
: >>> SZ
: >> --
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[twsocket] Documenttation effort

2006-09-13 Thread Francois Piette

Currently we have two new "writers" for http://wiki.overbyte.be :
- Markus Humm
- Ken Bradford
They are actively enhancing the wiki.
Big thank to them and all other writers.

Anyone else willing to write into the wiki ?
No need to know everything. There is work for all level of knowledge. Just
write what you know and someone else will complete it. You can even simply
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!

BTW: In FF you may enter a user name like Host\User, though this
is most likely not the problem here.

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> 
>> Please check my private message.
>> 
>> Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
>> 
>>> 
>>> Rgrds,
>>> 
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

I also tested with FF/1.5.0.6! Something's wrong somewhere!

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > 
: Please check my private message.
: 
: Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!
: 
: > 
: > Rgrds,
: > 
: > SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> 
Please check my private message.

Your EXE works fine using Firefox/1.5.0.6!

> 
> Rgrds,
> 
> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Also, in IE, as Francois said, it auto logs in to a domain. Where is the 
selection?

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > Ok. Your demo worked fine with the SECURITY_WIN32 trick YET it still
: > does not work under Firefox. Please test it under Firefox as well!
:
: Works fine with Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6.
: However their are plenty of different versions available, probably some
: of them are buggy. Check with ethereal!
:
: > Best Regards,
: >
: > SZ
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:22 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Arno,
: >>
: >> I just tried with your demo.html and it gives the same problem!
: >> Please refine your code under BCB personality (perhaps that's
: >> related?). It gives no compile time error--just does not let it
: >> authenticate!
: >>
: >> Regards,
: >>
: >> SZ
: >>
: >> - Original Message -
: >> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >> To: "ICS support mailing" 
: >> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:09 PM
: >> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >>
: >>
: >>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
:  Please reply my private messages as well.
: >>>
: >>> This is plenty of C code, and I have to do my work as well!
: >>> I'll take a look at it later.
: >>>
: 
:  Thanks,
: 
:  SZ
: 
:  - Original Message -
:  From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:  To: "ICS support mailing" 
:  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
:  Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: 
: 
: > Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >> - Original Message -
: >> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >> To: "ICS support mailing" 
: >> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
: >> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >>
: >>
: >>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
:  It does not ask for domain then!
: >>>
: >>> BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
: >>> auth-dialog!
: >>
: >> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
: >
: > Try the demo, it works!
: >
:  I thought this would look like a NT-
:  log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log
:  in??
: >>>
: >>> ??
: >>
: >> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
: >> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
: >
: > If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
: > authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain
: > where the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the
: > hood, is unknown to me.
: >
: >
: >>
: >>>
:  Regards,
: 
:  SZ
: 
:  - Original Message -
:  From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:  To: "ICS support mailing" 
:  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
:  Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: 
: 
: > Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets
: >> in! I wrote,
: >>
: >> localhost\User (a windows user)
: >> and my password but it does not work!
: >
: > Do not include host/domain in the username!
: >
: > ---
: > Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
: > http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
: >
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > C and Pascal are close relatives and the code is not complex since
: > you know the Pascal-correspondent. I know you are a busy coder but
: > please give high priority for this. I really do not see where the C++
: > conversion mistake is. It simply does not ask for NTLM-domain
: > information!! 
: 
: I looked at your source (which is hard to read since there are no
: indentations), but cannot find the error.
: Obviously you override the two most important routines,
: THttpConnection.AuthCheckAuthenticated as well as 
: THttpConnection.Answer401 and also use a slightly different
: logic.
: 
: Debug by setting the apropriate break points and single step
: thru the code.
: The difference of NTLM compared to the other auth-methods
: is that it needs one more step in the sequence, means the
: server must always send a 401 response containing the
: NTLM message 2.
: Also helpfull is logging the traffic with ethereal.  

What is the difference wrt Digest? Please check my private message.

Rgrds,

SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Ok. Your demo worked fine with the SECURITY_WIN32 trick YET it still
> does not work under Firefox. Please test it under Firefox as well!

Works fine with Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6.
However their are plenty of different versions available, probably some
of them are buggy. Check with ethereal! 

> Best Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Arno,
>> 
>> I just tried with your demo.html and it gives the same problem!
>> Please refine your code under BCB personality (perhaps that's
>> related?). It gives no compile time error--just does not let it
>> authenticate! 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> SZ
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Please reply my private messages as well.
>>> 
>>> This is plenty of C code, and I have to do my work as well!
>>> I'll take a look at it later.
>>> 
 
 Thanks,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>> 
>> 
>>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
 It does not ask for domain then!
>>> 
>>> BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
>>> auth-dialog!
>> 
>> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
> 
> Try the demo, it works!
> 
 I thought this would look like a NT-
 log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log
 in??
>>> 
>>> ??
>> 
>> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
>> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
> 
> If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
> authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain
> where the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the
> hood, is unknown to me.
> 
> 
>> 
>>> 
 Regards,
 
 SZ
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "ICS support mailing" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
 Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
 
 
> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets
>> in! I wrote,
>> 
>> localhost\User (a windows user)
>> and my password but it does not work!
> 
> Do not include host/domain in the username!
> 
> ---
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> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> C and Pascal are close relatives and the code is not complex since
> you know the Pascal-correspondent. I know you are a busy coder but
> please give high priority for this. I really do not see where the C++
> conversion mistake is. It simply does not ask for NTLM-domain
> information!! 

I looked at your source (which is hard to read since there are no
indentations), but cannot find the error.
Obviously you override the two most important routines,
THttpConnection.AuthCheckAuthenticated as well as 
THttpConnection.Answer401 and also use a slightly different
logic.

Debug by setting the apropriate break points and single step
thru the code.
The difference of NTLM compared to the other auth-methods
is that it needs one more step in the sequence, means the
server must always send a 401 response containing the
NTLM message 2.
Also helpfull is logging the traffic with ethereal.  

 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> Please reply my private messages as well.
>> 
>> This is plenty of C code, and I have to do my work as well!
>> I'll take a look at it later.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> It does not ask for domain then!
>> 
>> BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
>> auth-dialog!
> 
> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
 
 Try the demo, it works!
 
>>> I thought this would look like a NT-
>>> log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log
>>> in??
>> 
>> ??
> 
> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
 
 If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
 authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain
 where the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the
 hood, is unknown to me.
 
 
> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
>>> Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets
> in! I wrote,
> 
> localhost\User (a windows user)
> and my password but it does not work!
 
 Do not include host/domain in the username!
 
 ---
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 http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
 
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Ok. Your demo worked fine with the SECURITY_WIN32 trick YET it still does 
not work under Firefox. Please test it under Firefox as well!

Best Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Arno,
:
: I just tried with your demo.html and it gives the same problem! Please
: refine your code under BCB personality (perhaps that's related?). It gives
: no compile time error--just does not let it authenticate!
:
: Regards,
:
: SZ
:
: - Original Message - 
: From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "ICS support mailing" 
: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:09 PM
: Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:
:
:: Fastream Technologies wrote:
:: > Please reply my private messages as well.
::
:: This is plenty of C code, and I have to do my work as well!
:: I'll take a look at it later.
::
:: >
:: > Thanks,
:: >
:: > SZ
:: >
:: > - Original Message -
:: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
:: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
:: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:: >
:: >
:: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
:: >>> - Original Message -
:: >>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: >>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
:: >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
:: >>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:: >>>
:: >>>
::  Fastream Technologies wrote:
:: > It does not ask for domain then!
:: 
::  BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
::  auth-dialog!
:: >>>
:: >>> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
:: >>
:: >> Try the demo, it works!
:: >>
:: > I thought this would look like a NT-
:: > log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log
:: > in??
:: 
::  ??
:: >>>
:: >>> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
:: >>> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
:: >>
:: >> If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
:: >> authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain where
:: >> the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the hood, is
:: >> unknown to me.
:: >>
:: >>
:: >>>
:: 
:: > Regards,
:: >
:: > SZ
:: >
:: > - Original Message -
:: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
:: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
:: > Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
:: >
:: >
:: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
:: >>> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
:: >>> wrote,
:: >>>
:: >>> localhost\User (a windows user)
:: >>> and my password but it does not work!
:: >>
:: >> Do not include host/domain in the username!
:: >>
:: >> ---
:: >> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
:: >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
:: >>
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Arno,

I just tried with your demo.html and it gives the same problem! Please 
refine your code under BCB personality (perhaps that's related?). It gives 
no compile time error--just does not let it authenticate!

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > Please reply my private messages as well.
:
: This is plenty of C code, and I have to do my work as well!
: I'll take a look at it later.
:
: >
: > Thanks,
: >
: > SZ
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> - Original Message -
: >>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
: >>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >>>
: >>>
:  Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > It does not ask for domain then!
: 
:  BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
:  auth-dialog!
: >>>
: >>> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
: >>
: >> Try the demo, it works!
: >>
: > I thought this would look like a NT-
: > log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log
: > in??
: 
:  ??
: >>>
: >>> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
: >>> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
: >>
: >> If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
: >> authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain where
: >> the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the hood, is
: >> unknown to me.
: >>
: >>
: >>>
: 
: > Regards,
: >
: > SZ
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
: > Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
: >>> wrote,
: >>>
: >>> localhost\User (a windows user)
: >>> and my password but it does not work!
: >>
: >> Do not include host/domain in the username!
: >>
: >> ---
: >> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
: >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
: >>
: >> --
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[twsocket] Fw: bytes lost with PUT FTP

2006-09-13 Thread Arnold FLUTEAUX

Ok sorry sorry ! Ive found my error. Ive put a processmessage in «
progress » event.

Thanks.

 

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De : Arnold FLUTEAUX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : mercredi 13 septembre 2006 11:22
À : 'twsocket@elists.org'
Objet : Re: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP

 

Ive checked side server in StorDataAvailable event and I dont receive all.
So my problem comes side client but I dont know where. 

I m in Async  mmode end binary mode (TYPE = I).

Thanks for help

 

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De : Arnold FLUTEAUX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : mercredi 13 septembre 2006 10:20
À : 'twsocket@elists.org'
Objet : Re: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP

 

Hi,

 

With the same file (its a text file)  of 

 Kb, I receive always 8760 bytes in RAS connection only at 56 kb speed not
in LAN. 

You talk about message pump, what message pump; I dont understand. Sorry

 

Arnold.

 

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One very common programming error which could create file corruption is to 
call the message pump directly or indirectly from one of the ICS component 
event handler.
 
Would be interesting to compare received file and sent file.
Are the files always corrupted in the same way or is there some random 
patern ?
 
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From: "Arnold FLUTEAUX" < 
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To: <  twsocket at
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP
 
 
> Hi
> 
> 
> 
> I've a problem with FTP client component. I'm using with .NET. I want to 
> put
> a file with small size (equal to 12 kb for example). It's ok in LAN but
> doesn't in RAS connexion. I lost bytes. With my sample file, I upload only
> 8760 BYTES on 11 kb. I'm using the component with putasync method. Have 
> you
> got an idea ?
> 
> And on server side, all seems happened good => storDataAvalable and
> storsessionclosed OK.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Arnold

 

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Re: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP

2006-09-13 Thread Arnold FLUTEAUX

Ive checked side server in StorDataAvailable event and I dont receive all.
So my problem comes side client but I dont know where. 

I m in Async  mmode end binary mode (TYPE = I).

Thanks for help

 

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De : Arnold FLUTEAUX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : mercredi 13 septembre 2006 10:20
À : 'twsocket@elists.org'
Objet : Re: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP

 

Hi,

 

With the same file (its a text file)  of 

 Kb, I receive always 8760 bytes in RAS connection only at 56 kb speed not
in LAN. 

You talk about message pump, what message pump; I dont understand. Sorry

 

Arnold.

 

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One very common programming error which could create file corruption is to 
call the message pump directly or indirectly from one of the ICS component 
event handler.
 
Would be interesting to compare received file and sent file.
Are the files always corrupted in the same way or is there some random 
patern ?
 
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From: "Arnold FLUTEAUX" < 
arnold.fluteaux at scj.fr>
To: <  twsocket at
elists.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP
 
 
> Hi
> 
> 
> 
> I've a problem with FTP client component. I'm using with .NET. I want to 
> put
> a file with small size (equal to 12 kb for example). It's ok in LAN but
> doesn't in RAS connexion. I lost bytes. With my sample file, I upload only
> 8760 BYTES on 11 kb. I'm using the component with putasync method. Have 
> you
> got an idea ?
> 
> And on server side, all seems happened good => storDataAvalable and
> storsessionclosed OK.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Arnold

 

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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

C and Pascal are close relatives and the code is not complex since you know 
the Pascal-correspondent. I know you are a busy coder but please give high 
priority for this. I really do not see where the C++ conversion mistake is. 
It simply does not ask for NTLM-domain information!!

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > Please reply my private messages as well.
:
: This is plenty of C code, and I have to do my work as well!
: I'll take a look at it later.
:
: >
: > Thanks,
: >
: > SZ
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> - Original Message -
: >>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
: >>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >>>
: >>>
:  Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > It does not ask for domain then!
: 
:  BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
:  auth-dialog!
: >>>
: >>> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
: >>
: >> Try the demo, it works!
: >>
: > I thought this would look like a NT-
: > log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log
: > in??
: 
:  ??
: >>>
: >>> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
: >>> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
: >>
: >> If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
: >> authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain where
: >> the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the hood, is
: >> unknown to me.
: >>
: >>
: >>>
: 
: > Regards,
: >
: > SZ
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
: > Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
: >>> wrote,
: >>>
: >>> localhost\User (a windows user)
: >>> and my password but it does not work!
: >>
: >> Do not include host/domain in the username!
: >>
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Please reply my private messages as well.

This is plenty of C code, and I have to do my work as well!
I'll take a look at it later.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> It does not ask for domain then!
 
 BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
 auth-dialog!
>>> 
>>> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
>> 
>> Try the demo, it works!
>> 
> I thought this would look like a NT-
> log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log
> in?? 
 
 ??
>>> 
>>> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
>>> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
>> 
>> If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
>> authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain where
>> the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the hood, is
>> unknown to me.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
> Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
>>> wrote,
>>> 
>>> localhost\User (a windows user)
>>> and my password but it does not work!
>> 
>> Do not include host/domain in the username!
>> 
>> ---
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>> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Please reply my private messages as well.

Thanks,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: > 
: > 
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> It does not ask for domain then!
: >> 
: >> BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
: >> auth-dialog!
: > 
: > I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.
: 
: Try the demo, it works! 
: 
: >>> I thought this would look like a NT-
: >>> log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log in??
: >> 
: >> ??
: > 
: > When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
: > include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name
: 
: If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
: authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain where
: the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the hood, is
: unknown to me. 
: 
: 
: > 
: >> 
: >>> Regards,
: >>> 
: >>> SZ
: >>> 
: >>> - Original Message -
: >>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
: >>> Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >>> 
: >>> 
:  Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
: > wrote,
: > 
: > localhost\User (a windows user)
: > and my password but it does not work!
:  
:  Do not include host/domain in the username!
:  
:  ---
:  Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
:  http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> It does not ask for domain then!
>> 
>> BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
>> auth-dialog!
> 
> I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.

Try the demo, it works! 

>>> I thought this would look like a NT-
>>> log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log in??
>> 
>> ??
> 
> When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT
> include a domain name, how does it understand the domain name

If the browser does not send a domain SSPI uses the default logon
authority, this may be either the local computer or the domain where
the computer is a member. How it works exactely under the hood, is
unknown to me. 


> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
>>> Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
> wrote,
> 
> localhost\User (a windows user)
> and my password but it does not work!
 
 Do not include host/domain in the username!
 
 ---
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > It does not ask for domain then!
:
: BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their
: auth-dialog!

I tried with both Firefox and IE6XP.

:
: There's a boolean var Allow, set it to FALSE in order to
: reject the user.

The domain property was null when I did not enter the domain name as I said.

:
: > I thought this would look like a NT-
: > log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log in??
:
: ??

When there is NO domain edit box, and when the user name does NOT include a 
domain name, how does it understand the domain name

:
: > Regards,
: >
: > SZ
: >
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
: > Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
: >>> wrote,
: >>>
: >>> localhost\User (a windows user)
: >>> and my password but it does not work!
: >>
: >> Do not include host/domain in the username!
: >>
: >> ---
: >> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
: >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
: >>
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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> It does not ask for domain then! 

BTW: Not all browsers provide a domain field in their 
auth-dialog!

There's a boolean var Allow, set it to FALSE in order to
reject the user. 

> I thought this would look like a NT-
> log on screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log in??

??
 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
> Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I
>>> wrote, 
>>> 
>>> localhost\User (a windows user)
>>> and my password but it does not work!
>> 
>> Do not include host/domain in the username!
>> 
>> ---
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>> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
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[twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> It is a bit strange design for me, I would pass the domain as a var const 
> parameter. That's why I hesitated. Because the sole purpose of the event is 
> to pass the domain and wait for input.

Sorry I cannot follow, the sole purpose of the event is to be able to cancel the
authentication before the final, NTLM message is being processed thru SSPI.
 

> Regards,
> 
> SZ

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Re: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

It does not ask for domain then! I thought this would look like a NT-log on 
screen!! How does it understand which NTLM-domain to log in??

Regards,

SZ

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From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: [twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I wrote,
: >
: > localhost\User (a windows user)
: > and my password but it does not work!
:
: Do not include host/domain in the username!
:
: ---
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: http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
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[twsocket] Fw: Urgent (Another simple NTLM question)

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote: 
> I have another problem: it never authenticates! Never lets in! I wrote,
> 
> localhost\User (a windows user)
> and my password but it does not work!

Do not include host/domain in the username!

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Re: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP

2006-09-13 Thread Arnold FLUTEAUX

Hi,

 

With the same file (it's a text file)  of 

 Kb, I receive always 8760 bytes in RAS connection only at 56 kb speed not
in LAN. 

You talk about "message pump", what message pump; I don't understand. Sorry

 

Arnold.

 

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Would be interesting to compare received file and sent file.
Are the files always corrupted in the same way or is there some random 
patern ?
 
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To: <  twsocket at
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: [twsocket] bytes lost with PUT FTP
 
 
> Hi
> 
> 
> 
> I've a problem with FTP client component. I'm using with .NET. I want to 
> put
> a file with small size (equal to 12 kb for example). It's ok in LAN but
> doesn't in RAS connexion. I lost bytes. With my sample file, I upload only
> 8760 BYTES on 11 kb. I'm using the component with putasync method. Have 
> you
> got an idea ?
> 
> And on server side, all seems happened good => storDataAvalable and
> storsessionclosed OK.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> I also did not understand why you made USE_NTLM_AUTH deifne! 

It is defined by default so why do you care?
NTLM/SSPI requires a Windows OS, I like to be able to undefine
features especially when they are still beta.

> I do not
> like defines much as they decrease the readability of the code! Let's
> remove it IMO. All the browsers support NTLM now and it should be a
> property's job to select which AUTH_TYPE to use.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Here is my problem: Let's say I have two domains to let whose
> members to authenticate:
> 
> LOCALHOST
> FASTREAM
> 
> Now, what if the end user enters some domain in the dialog box
> that is equivalent to one of these but with a different alias??
 
 I have no idea how virtual domains/hosts are implemented, but isn't
 it just mapping host names provided in the header to different root
 folders or in case of a (reverse) proxy redirecting the request to
 some HTTP server which will the authenticate the user as necessary?
>>> 
>>> This is a reverse proxy which when configured will handle
>>> authentication by itself.
>> 
>> Has it to handle authentication for any protected page on the HTTP
>> servers, or is it just a general authentication to traverse the
>> proxy? 
>> 
>> ---
>> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
>> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
>> 
>> 
>>> When configured otherwise, it will forward
>>> the request to be authenticated by the web servers. I need to handle
>>> all! :(
>> 
>> I still not got the type of authentication the proxy server needs to
>> perform, is it a general authentication
>> 
>>> Any other ideas?
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question

2006-09-13 Thread Arno Garrels

Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Where is the domain information in,
> 
> AuthNtlmSession->OnBeforeValidate = AuthNtlmSessionBeforeValidate;

Property AuthNtlmSession.Domain

> 
> ?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SZ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ICS support mailing" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question
> 
> 
>> Fastream Technologies wrote:
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "ICS support mailing" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question
>>> 
>>> 
 Fastream Technologies wrote:
> Here is my problem: Let's say I have two domains to let whose
> members to authenticate:
> 
> LOCALHOST
> FASTREAM
> 
> Now, what if the end user enters some domain in the dialog box
> that is equivalent to one of these but with a different alias??
 
 I have no idea how virtual domains/hosts are implemented, but isn't
 it just mapping host names provided in the header to different root
 folders or in case of a (reverse) proxy redirecting the request to
 some HTTP server which will the authenticate the user as necessary?
>>> 
>>> This is a reverse proxy which when configured will handle
>>> authentication by itself.
>> 
>> Has it to handle authentication for any protected page on the HTTP
>> servers, or is it just a general authentication to traverse the
>> proxy? 
>> 
>> ---
>> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
>> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
>> 
>> 
>>> When configured otherwise, it will forward
>>> the request to be authenticated by the web servers. I need to handle
>>> all! :(
>> 
>> I still not got the type of authentication the proxy server needs to
>> perform, is it a general authentication
>> 
>>> Any other ideas?
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> SZ
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Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question

2006-09-13 Thread Fastream Technologies

Where is the domain information in,

AuthNtlmSession->OnBeforeValidate = AuthNtlmSessionBeforeValidate;

?

Regards,

SZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question


: Fastream Technologies wrote:
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "Arno Garrels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "ICS support mailing" 
: > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:22 PM
: > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Simple NTLM question
: >
: >
: >> Fastream Technologies wrote:
: >>> Here is my problem: Let's say I have two domains to let whose
: >>> members to authenticate:
: >>>
: >>> LOCALHOST
: >>> FASTREAM
: >>>
: >>> Now, what if the end user enters some domain in the dialog box that
: >>> is equivalent to one of these but with a different alias??
: >>
: >> I have no idea how virtual domains/hosts are implemented, but isn't
: >> it just mapping host names provided in the header to different root
: >> folders or in case of a (reverse) proxy redirecting the request to
: >> some HTTP server which will the authenticate the user as necessary?
: >
: > This is a reverse proxy which when configured will handle
: > authentication by itself.
:
: Has it to handle authentication for any protected page on the HTTP 
servers,
: or is it just a general authentication to traverse the proxy?
:
: ---
: Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
: http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
:
:
: > When configured otherwise, it will forward
: > the request to be authenticated by the web servers. I need to handle
: > all! :(
:
: I still not got the type of authentication the proxy server needs to
: perform, is it a general authentication
:
: > Any other ideas?
: >
: > Best Regards,
: >
: > SZ
: -- 
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