Re: [U2] Unidata error message

2007-05-10 Thread Doug Miller
This error has to do with the filesystem not being mounted while UD is started and accessing dynamic files later on that filesystem. Later releases handle this better but introduce other problems. IIRC (df timeouts) So, have all your UniData filesystems mounted prior to starting UniData or

RE: [U2] Redirect printer to file

2007-05-10 Thread Rod Hills
Jerry, I am doing something similar, but I am using the USEROPT parameter, which is passed as argument 11 to the print driver. I have a question on your scenario. Since universe won't run the print driver script until the FORM on the print job matches the FORM currently set on the printer queue,

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative. I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into install problems. Beefing up PE would be the best advertizing that IBM could hope for... --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [U2] Locks

2007-05-10 Thread Brutzman, Bill
How do I rollback a U2 transaction? Right now, all I know to do is to restore the entire data file from tape. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread BNeylon
Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for instance? Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/09/2007 11:39 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Anthony Youngman
I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half :-) When I succeed I'll likely try and create an ebuild to install UVPE. Be nice to get that officially into portage :-) (I want to get a WordPerfect 8 ebuild working, too :-) Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From:

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread karlp
Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product. Much easier to make a business case expanding the IBM product line than any third party products. My 2 bits Karl quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for instance?

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Gabriel Green
Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? Anyone want to write one? ;-) Is the MV market expanding, shrinking, or staying stagnant? Does IBM plan to really start promoting U2 or is it just something they acquired to get a few large customers? Anybody? Gabe

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Vance E Alspach (JL - SFD)
My version of UVPE and UDPE came with Dymanic Connect (a streamlined version of Wintegrate). It serves all of my emulation needs. Actually, we have deployed it here instead of our proprietary emulation. Vance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Ken Hall
At 08:39 PM 5/9/2007, you wrote: Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Thomas Derwin
Last I looked, Dynamic Connect was bundled with the PE editions. It was included in the clients zip file, rather than the pe zip file. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/07 11:24 AM Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product. snip Karl quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Gabriel Green
Good luck with that. All I have to say about Gentoo is be careful with compiler flags going a little too crazy and ports (or whatever they call them, I forget) getting out of sync. Would be nice to get UV on FreeBSD but it seems to work beautifully on Windows.. no complaints so far =) Microsoft

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread David Murray
The basic 'Direct Connect' terminal emulator is bundled with the U2 windows client package. What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the capabilities of SB+ can be demonstrated. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [U2] Redirect printer to file

2007-05-10 Thread Jerry
When the jobs are spooled they stay in the queue until we change the form type on the printer queues. We also have a paragraph that is run periodically during the day that sets the form type on the print queues using the usa command (SH -c /ibm/uv/bin/usa -p HP2132 -F FILE). - Original

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Martin Phillips
Would be nice to get UV on FreeBSD Can't resist the plug OpenQM runs on FreeBSD. Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems Ltd --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread Brutzman, Bill
IBM has this already... U2 Personal Editions and Trials (IBM U2 SB+ Personal Edition for UniVerse on Windows) --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Murray Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread robwills_u2list
It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc. could

RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread David Wolverton
Actually, I can't imagine giving a new user UD/UV **without** SB+ as a front end. It helps users visualize the system use (via the somewhat icky SBDEMO) and gives a usuable character-based Editor (SE) that is more intuitive to new users. But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Normandin, Jerry
As a gentoo user and contributor I can say make sure you are using a current valid profile for your platform and make sure you properly configured your /etc/make.conf. There are many advantages to running Gentoo. 1st off it's compiled and optimized for your architecture, this means it's

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Dave Taylor
Chuck, Stepping up on my soap box As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged that they got over 2000 downloads of their eval. product per month. When I asked him, how

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Kevin King
From: David Murray What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the capabilities of SB+ can be demonstrated. Not likely going to happen, but DC works fine with SB+ in character mode. Well, fine following a small patch to SB+. -Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PrecisOnline.com ** Check

RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread David Wolverton
I have to correct myself!! SBClient **is** included in the package - but as a 'demo license' that expires in 60 days. But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is sort of sad, as all anyone can see is UniData/UniVerse in all their character-based glory. --- u2-users

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread karlp
Might I also suggest that all the extras, like the recommended list of VARs (very good idea), etc. be placed on u2ug.org's website so they are located in one location, and can be updated once? There's nothing less maintainable than a software release with all the packages included, but which is

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Thomas Derwin
Very well said, Dave. And thanks for your generous offers. The incubator is a great idea and hopefully IBM will be as lenient with the PE licensing and expiration terms as they are with their free DB2 Express-C database. The installer is going to be an amazing piece of code, considering all

[U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?

2007-05-10 Thread Thomas Derwin
Hi Gabe, Some quick thoughts: The Internet has dramatically reduced the need for printed materials, especially on fast-changing technical subjects. Even PC Magazine is a fraction of its former size. In the late '80s - early '90's (what I'd consider the heyday of Pick / MV so far), there were

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Marc Harbeson
Well, for distribution - this would need to be Linux - as I doubt Microsoft will grant re-dist rights on Win32. IBM seems to support Linux... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:13 PM To:

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Jerry
Dave, Very well said. But one thing I might add, and I've been bitten by this myself, I think that the reduced file sizes are probably a good enough of a deterrent to users trying to use the PE version for regular use and you don't need the expiration date. I have downloaded PE versions,

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread BNeylon
Reminds me of the good old days when I was the programmer at TAB books in Blue Ridge Summit, PA. We published The PICK Library edited by Jonathan Sisk. Still have some of those books somewhere. Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group Gabriel Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL

RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread Kevin King
You found an SBClient demo? Where? -Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PrecisOnline.com ** Check out our FREE support forum at http://www.PrecisOnline.com/forum/. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, May 10,

RE: [U2] Incubator

2007-05-10 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Microsoft SQL and Oracle free downloads allow for 2-GB. What year is it... 1907 ? --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the

RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread David Wolverton
AH --- well isn't that stupid of me! I looked at the download page for SystemBuilder 5.4.1 here http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/preconfig.jsp?id=2005-03-31+14 %3A19%3A42.178111RS_TACT=104CBW71S_CMP= And it says IBM SystemBuilder (SB+ and SBClient) enables rapid application

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread David Murray
What about a fully installed, configured and ready to run VMWare image of U2 on linux? VWmare now have a free runtime/player and there are already a number of linux and such images available under their 'Virtual Appliances Marketplace' - http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/ All that has to be

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Normandin, Jerry
Sounds like a great Idea! I'm willing to put together a tuned cookie cutter vmplayer image. This will yield a usable demo that can run on windows and linux. ... as the guiness commercial goes... A VM of U2 on Linux, BRILLIANT! Jerry Normandin | System Level II Intuit Eclipse

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Dave
Anthony Youngman wrote: I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half :-) When I succeed I'll likely try and create an ebuild to install UVPE. Be nice to get that officially into portage :-) (I want to get a WordPerfect 8 ebuild working, too :-) Cheers, Wol I

RE: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?

2007-05-10 Thread Tony Gravagno
Gabe asked why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? (Weird that I didn't get the original note - forum flaky???) This question is asked in many forums over time, so I decided to write a blog entry on it. Comments always welcome:

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread David Wolverton
But you can't do that due to the IBM License on the PE version - the end user *must* navigate through that license during the installation was my understanding. They HAVE to pull the PE from the IBM site directly. Meaning, no way to build ready-to-run PE Virtual Machines DW -Original

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Charles Barouch
All, Let me respond to some of these... but first: MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact U2UG President Brian Leach with specific offers to help. We need code examples, well reasoned tutorials, and more. These packs are a big part of making the incubator

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread karlp
Thanks. I've seen broken links so many times using install routines that I could be rich, if finder's fees were applicable. Well, not rich. Karl quote who=Charles Barouch All, Let me respond to some of these... but first: MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread David Murray
I was assuming that IBM would do this. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:49 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator

RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Marc Harbeson
Why can't the unpacking of the VM have the IBM license agreement in it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:49 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-10 Thread Richard Brown
Yep, I live on that same clock. Richard - Original Message - From: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Dave, Very well said. But one thing I might add, and I've been bitten

Re: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?

2007-05-10 Thread MAJ Programming
I've never seen MV books in any bookstore. We've been a pretty well-kept secret. MV is hard to illustrate with words and/or drawings as itself is DOS-like and character based. Perhaps that's a stumbling block on create a book that's easy to read. Most books that I've come across are similar to

Re: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?

2007-05-10 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
As some of you already know, if you have a new person either in management or development in a U2 (or other Pick) shop, you can have them read my little MultiValue Trilogy at http://www.tincat-group.com/mv/trilogy.html These are flash cards and they were written with readers to help with