Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-29 Thread John Jenkins
-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: 28 September 2012 21:53 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication? In the UV account UV_UDRPUB has 6 items. UV_UDRSUB and UV_UDRSYS are empty. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM, John Thompson jthompson

Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-28 Thread Manu Fernandes
hi, on 10.3, we talk about UVReplication vs. U2Replication available o r11. UVRep is set file by file using UniAdmin, the gui tool delivered on UVClient CD. Before RESIZE; you must unset the replication flag from the file header. Use UniAdin to achieve it. see Replication branch. After

Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-28 Thread John Jenkins
Yes - the tool is part of the client software. U2 replication is quite a different architecture, and the replication tool is part of XAdmin, or you can use the command line. Manu summed it quite nicely. Regards , JayJay Sent from my iPad On 28 Sep 2012, at 01:45, John Thompson

Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-28 Thread John Thompson
Ok. I believe I see what you guys are talking about. So the story goes, they tried to use old style UV replication and it did not work for what they wanted to do... SO they abandoned it. Right now, UDRMODE is set to 0 and the output of smat -t says UDRMODE is 0 In Uniadmin, do I unpublish the

Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-28 Thread John Thompson
In the UV account UV_UDRPUB has 6 items. UV_UDRSUB and UV_UDRSYS are empty. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote: Ok. I believe I see what you guys are talking about. So the story goes, they tried to use old style UV replication and it did not work for

[U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-27 Thread John Thompson
Has anyone ever seen this error while trying to resize a file. RESIZE CUSTOMER RESIZE attempt on a replicated file. I've never seen it and I was trying to do a bit of maintenance. -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list

Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-27 Thread John Jenkins
The file has been marked for replication. Depending on your UniVerse version this is either old style replication, or the newer U2 replication. If it should not be replicated then use the Replication configuration tool or XAdmin to turn this off for the file. You may also want to check your

Re: [U2] RESIZE error - Replication?

2012-09-27 Thread John Thompson
Its Universe 10.3.1 on Red Hat 5, so I'm guessing its the old style? Is the replication tool a part of the UVClient windows software? On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:43 PM, John Jenkins u2g...@btinternet.com wrote: The file has been marked for replication. Depending on your UniVerse version this is

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-06 Thread Israel, John R.
it take to initially populate the file. John -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles Stevenson Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:41 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Chris

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/12 23:58, Rick Nuckolls wrote: Oops, I would of thought that if a file had, say 100,000 bytes, @ 70 percent full, there would be 30,000 bytes empty or dead. Are you suggesting the there would be 70,000 bytes of data and 42,000 bytes of dead space? Do you mean 100,000 bytes of disk

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-06 Thread Chris Austin
you gain anything by reducing overflow? Chris To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org From: wjhon...@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:12:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files A BASIC SELECT cannot use criteria at all. It is going to walk through every record in the file, in order

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-06 Thread Wjhonson
-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Jul 6, 2012 10:23 am Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files o is there a performance increase in BASIC SELECTS by reducing overflow? Some eople are saying to reduce disk space to speed up the BASIC SELECT hile others say to reduce overflow.. I'm a bit

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-06 Thread Rick Nuckolls
ignore the bs and use the defaults. :) -Rick -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:56 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-06 Thread Susan Lynch
- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: 07/06/2012 12:56 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files So is there a performance increase in BASIC SELECTS by reducing overflow? Some

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-06 Thread Wjhonson
Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Logically, the graphed solution to varying the split.load value with an -axis=modulus, y-axis=time_to_select__read_the_whole_file is going to be arabolic, having very slow performance at modulus=1 and modulus = # of records. If you actually want to find

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Austin
, I think this is all starting to make sense. Chris From: ro...@stamina.com.au To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 01:36:26 + Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I would suggest that then actual goal is to achieve maximum performance for your system, so knowing

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Austin
...@datacom.co.nz To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 14:05:02 +1200 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Doug may have had a key bounce in his input Let's do the math: 258687736 (Record Size) 192283300 (Key Size) The key size is actually 19283300

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Martin Phillips
] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: 05 July 2012 15:19 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I was able to drop from 30% overflow to 12% by making 2 changes: 1) changed the split from 80% to 70% (that alone reduce 10% overflow) 2) changed the MINIMUM.MODULUS

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Rick Nuckolls
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: 05 July 2012 15:19 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I was able to drop from 30% overflow to 12% by making 2 changes: 1) changed the split from 80% to 70% (that alone

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Austin
the performance I need to write a ton of records and then capture the output and compare the output using timestamps. Chris From: r...@lynden.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:22:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Chis, I still am wondering what

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Rick Nuckolls
, July 05, 2012 11:21 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Rick, You are correct, I should be using the smaller size (I just haven't changed it yet). Based on the reading I have done you should only use the larger group size when the average record size

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Wjhonson
...@lynden.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Jul 5, 2012 2:29 pm Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Chris, For the type of use that you described earlier; BASIC selects and reads, educing overflow will have negligible performance benefit, especially compared o

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Charles Stevenson
Chris, I can appreciate what you are doing as an academic exercise. You seem happy how it looks at this moment, where, because you set MINIMUM.MODULUS 118681, you ended up with a current load of 63%. But think about it: as you add records, the load will reach 70%, per SPLIT.LOAD 70, then

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/12 16:12, Martin Phillips wrote: A file without overflow is not necessarily the best solution. Winding the split load down to 70% means that at least 30% of the file is dead space. The implication of this is that the file is larger and will take more disk reads to process

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/12 14:49, Chris Austin wrote: Disk space is not a factor, as we are a smaller shop and disk space comes cheap. However, one thing I did notice is when I increased the modulus to a very large number which then increased my disk space to about 3-4x of my record data, my SELECT

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Rick Nuckolls
- From: Rick Nuckolls r...@lynden.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Jul 5, 2012 2:29 pm Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Chris, For the type of use that you described earlier; BASIC selects and reads, educing overflow will have negligible performance benefit

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Wjhonson
: Thu, Jul 5, 2012 4:43 pm Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Most disks and disk systems cache huge amounts of information these days, and, epending on 20 factors or so, one solution will be better than another for a iven file. For the wholesale, SELECT F WITH, The fewest disk records

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Rick Nuckolls
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:12 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files A BASIC SELECT cannot use criteria at all. It is going to walk through every record in the file, in order. And that's the sticky wicket. That whole

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Austin
. Chris To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org From: wjhon...@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:12:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files A BASIC SELECT cannot use criteria at all. It is going to walk through every record in the file, in order. And that's the sticky wicket. That whole

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Brian Leach
All the other groups effectively get 1 added to their number Not exactly. Sorry to those who already know this, but maybe it's time to go over linear hashing in theory .. Linear hashing was a system devised by Litwin and originally only for in-memory lists. In fact there's some good

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Charles Stevenson
Good explanation, Brian! To anyone who skipped it because it looked long: read it anyway. cds On 7/4/2012 5:26 AM, Brian Leach wrote: Sorry to those who already know this, but maybe it's time to go over linear hashing in theory .. Linear hashing was a system devised by Litwin and originally

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Rick Nuckolls
This makes it sound as if you might need to search two groups for a record, which is not correct. If the initial hash is based on the larger modulo, and the group exists, then the key will be in the higher number group. If the result of the first hash is larger than the modulus of the of the

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Charles Stevenson
SMAT -d (or ANALYZE.SHM -d) see uv/bin/smat[.exe] uv/bin/analyze.shm[.exe] Dynamic Files: Slot # Inode Device Ref Count Htype Split Merge Curmod Basemod Largerec Filesp Selects Nextsplit 0 1285128087 209307792516208050 4001 2048 3267 2782736

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/07/12 11:26, Brian Leach wrote: All the other groups effectively get 1 added to their number Not exactly. Sorry to those who already know this, but maybe it's time to go over linear hashing in theory .. Linear hashing was a system devised by Litwin and originally only for in-memory

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Rick Nuckolls
I believe PiOpen used a directory with two files in it ‘$0’ and ‘$1’ corresponding to DATA.30 and OVER.30. If the numbers went up from there, I think that they corresponded to alternate keys, ie ‘$2’ and ‘$3’ represented DATA.30 and OVER.30 for the first alternate key. I do not think that

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/07/12 19:59, Rick Nuckolls wrote: I believe PiOpen used a directory with two files in it ‘$0’ and ‘$1’ corresponding to DATA.30 and OVER.30. If the numbers went up from there, I think that they corresponded to alternate keys, ie ‘$2’ and ‘$3’ represented DATA.30 and OVER.30 for the

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/07/12 17:44, Charles Stevenson wrote: SMAT -d (or ANALYZE.SHM -d) see uv/bin/smat[.exe] uv/bin/analyze.shm[.exe] Dynamic Files: Slot # Inode Device Ref Count Htype Split Merge Curmod Basemod Largerec Filesp Selects Nextsplit 0 1285128087 209307792516

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Brett Callacher
NN4 6DB, England +44 (0)1604-709200 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: 02 July 2012 20:22 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
above I'm just trying to get an idea of what these should be set at. Thanks, Chris From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:28:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Doug, When I do the math I come up with a different # (see

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Doug Averch
Yep, I added an extra 2 in the key value. Oh, the perils of cut and paste... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
to be bigger than the number of groups (92,776 in this case)? Chris Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 11:04:53 -0600 From: dave...@gmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Yep, I added an extra 2 in the key value. Oh, the perils of cut and paste

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Doug Averch
See comment interspersed... Using the record above, how would I calculate the following? 1) MINIMUM.MODULUS (Is there a formula to use or should I add 20% to the current number)? Should be less the the current size, if you want the file to merge 2) SPLIT - would 90% seem about right?

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
(~ 13 vs ~ 7 ), and a little slower keyed access. -Rick -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:21:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files (record + id / 4096 or 2048) You need to factor in overhead the split factor: (records + ids) * 1.1 * 1.25 / 4096(for 80%) If you use a 20% merge factor and a 80% split factor, the file will start merging

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
Doug, The data is growing over time with this file. Does that mean I should ignore the formula? Or should I still use a lower MINIMUM.MODULO than the actual modulo #.. Is the idea to reduce overflow by lowering the split? What is this 'overflow' referring to? 2) SPLIT - would 90% seem

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
records. Chris From: r...@lynden.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:21:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files (record + id / 4096 or 2048) You need to factor in overhead the split factor: (records + ids) * 1.1 * 1.25 / 4096(for 80

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Jeff Schasny
. Chris From: r...@lynden.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:21:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files (record + id / 4096 or 2048) You need to factor in overhead the split factor: (records + ids) * 1.1 * 1.25 / 4096(for 80%) If you use a 20

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Using the formula below, and changing the split to 90% I get the following: File name .. GENACCTRN_POSTED Pathname ... GENACCTRN_POSTED File type .. DYNAMIC File style and revision

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
of record IDs ... 21508521 bytes Unused space ... 213343528 bytes Total space for records 522252288 bytes From: r...@lynden.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 13:10:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files The split load is not affecting

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
: r...@lynden.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 13:10:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files The split load is not affecting anything here, since it is more than the actual load. What your overflow suggests is that you lower the split.load value to 70

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
group, not unreasonably shallow, and it's likely to be a while before you have to resize again. From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 15:23:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I guess what I need to know is what's

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 16:57:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files One rule of thumb is to make sure that you have an average of 10 or less items in each group. Going by that, you'd want a minimum mod of 130k or more. I've also noticed

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
Austin Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Dan, I changed the MINIMUM.MODULUS to the value of 23 as you suggested and my Actual Load has really gone down (as well as overflow). See below for the results: File name

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
I should have said 60% more disk records, to be clear. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rick Nuckolls Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:24 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
Austin Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Dan, I changed the MINIMUM.MODULUS to the value of 23 as you suggested and my Actual Load has really gone down (as well as overflow). See below for the results: File

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Wjhonson
Disks get bigger much faster than the rate they get faster. So the overflow is the thing to minimize. -Original Message- From: Chris Austin cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2012 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files his

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
, 2012 2:38 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files This is why I'm confused.. Is the goal here to reduce 'overflow' or to keep the 'Total size' of the disk down? If the goal is to keep the total disk size down then it would appear you would want your actual

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Susan Lynch
, Inc. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: 07/03/2012 5:38 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files This is why I'm confused.. Is the goal here to reduce

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Austin
the split.load? What should my SPLIT.LOAD be around, and how do you come up with that %? Chris From: r...@lynden.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 14:45:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files 37% is a very low load. Reading disk records takes much longer than

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I set the split load based on what Dan suggested: I'd take the merge down a little, to maybe 30% or even less, and maybe knock the split up a bit - say, 90% - to cut down on the splitting. I thought this would cut down

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Charles Stevenson
Chris, Let's back way up. I take it your original question is a general one, not specific to one poorly performing problematic file. Is that right? If so, generally speaking, you just don't get a lot out of fine-tuning dynamic files. Tweaking the default parameters doesn't usually make a

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Nuckolls
: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Chris, Let's back way up. I take it your original question is a general one, not specific to one poorly performing problematic file. Is that right? If so, generally speaking, you just don't get a lot out of fine-tuning dynamic files. Tweaking the default

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Ross Ferris
Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 7:38 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files This is why I'm

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-03 Thread Keith Johnson [DATACOM]
Doug may have had a key bounce in his input Let's do the math: 258687736 (Record Size) 192283300 (Key Size) The key size is actually 19283300 in Chris' figures Regarding 68,063 being less than the current modulus of 82,850. I think the answer may lie in the splitting process.

[U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Chris Austin
I was wondering if anyone had instructions on RESIZE with a dynamic file? For example I have a file called 'TEST_FILE' with the following: 01 ANALYZE.FILE TEST_FILE File name .. TEST_FILE Pathname ... TEST_FILE File type .. DYNAMIC File

[U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Chris Austin
I was wondering if anyone had instructions on RESIZE with a dynamic file? For example I have a file called 'TEST_FILE' with the following: 01 ANALYZE.FILE TEST_FILE File name .. TEST_FILE Pathname ... TEST_FILE File type .. DYNAMIC File

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Martin Phillips
: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: 02 July 2012 20:22 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I was wondering if anyone had instructions on RESIZE with a dynamic file? For example I

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Chris Austin
of record IDs ... 19283300 bytes Unused space ... 171626404 bytes Total space for records 449597440 bytes Thanks, Chris From: cjausti...@hotmail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:55:21 -0500 Subject: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:55:21 -0500 Subject: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files I was wondering if anyone had instructions on RESIZE with a dynamic file? For example I have a file called 'TEST_FILE' with the following: 01 ANALYZE.FILE TEST_FILE File name

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Chris Austin
tuning a dynamic file? Chris From: martinphill...@ladybridge.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 20:56:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files Hi Chris, The whole point of dynamic files is that you don't do RESIZE. The file will look after itself

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Doug Averch
Hi Chris: You cannot get away with not resizing dynamic files in my experience. The files do not split and merge like we are led to believe. The separator is not used on dynamic files. Your Universe file is badly sized. The math below will get you reasonably file size. Let's do the math:

Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files

2012-07-02 Thread Rick Nuckolls
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Chris Austin Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 2:07 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RESIZE - dynamic files The dynamic file I'm working with is below. What do 'overflowed' and 'badly' refer to under MODULUS? Is the goal of the RESIZE to eliminate

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-05 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 000501caa516$38b303c0$aa190b...@com, Andrew E. Tegenkamp and...@g3.com writes Thanks again for taking the time to help me out. I have been researching this all day as I did not want to bother the list anymore. I am still looking up and reading commands to try to find the right

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-05 Thread jpb-u2ug
of dictionaries used. Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:57 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Resize Question Hi Andrew Because UniVerse

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-05 Thread u2ug
We have a process that works strictly with I D type dictionary items. The fewer I-types we have the better. One scenario where we can drop I-types in favour of D-Types is : DATA.VALUE D multi part '*' delimited : date / time 2 ... DATA.VALUE.DATE

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-05 Thread Charles Stevenson
Before you go too far down that path, make sure your sorting selecting works like you want. Are you more familiar with Pick-style A- S-items? If so, you realize how, if you put a correlative or a conversion into the wrong spot, your sorts and selection criteria are goofy. The same will

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Leach
, www.brianleach.co.uk. [/AD] Regards Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Andrew E. Tegenkamp Sent: 02 February 2010 4:17 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Resize Question Thank you very much! That has

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-03 Thread Andrew E. Tegenkamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:57 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Resize Question Hi Andrew Because UniVerse dictionaries contain not only solid column definitions, but also synonyms and virtual fields, you have to choose which of these will be exposed for ODBC or similar relational

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-03 Thread Andrew E. Tegenkamp
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Andrew E. Tegenkamp Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:17 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Resize Question Thanks again for taking the time to help me out. I have been researching this all day as I did not want to bother the list

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-02 Thread Andrew E. Tegenkamp
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:55 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Resize Question Okay, a few things here... First the index issue. When UniVerse creates an index on a file, it puts the absolute pathname to the index into the file header. You

[U2] Resize Question

2010-02-01 Thread Andrew E. Tegenkamp
I'd like to preface this by saying I am a UniVerse newbie. Ideally, I am trying to import some data into a personal edition UniVerse database but I am having some trouble. One example is a ZIP code lookup called ZIP. First, I copied the files in from a UNIX system to a Windows install of

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-01 Thread Brian Leach
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Andrew E. Tegenkamp Sent: 01 February 2010 4:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Resize Question I'd like to preface this by saying I am a UniVerse

Re: [U2] Resize Question

2010-02-01 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Resize Question I'd like to preface this by saying I am a UniVerse newbie. Ideally, I am trying to import some data into a personal edition UniVerse database but I am having some trouble. One example is a ZIP code lookup called ZIP. First, I copied the files in from a UNIX

[U2] Resize of large dynamic file

2009-05-28 Thread Andrew Nicholls
Hi All I am trying to resize a large dynamic Unidata file for a customer but am struggling to determine the best modulo/seperation figures to use. I was under the impression that I should try and minimise the amount of overflow files but my latest attempt just seems to have made the file worse.

RE: [U2] Resize of large dynamic file

2009-05-28 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Try the HASH.HELP command (and related commands) --B -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Nicholls Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:17 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Resize of large

RE: [U2] Resize of large dynamic file

2009-05-28 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
Subject: [U2] Resize of large dynamic file Hi All I am trying to resize a large dynamic Unidata file for a customer but am struggling to determine the best modulo/seperation figures to use. I was under the impression that I should try and minimise the amount of overflow files but my latest

[U2] Resize VOC

2007-05-04 Thread iggchamp
Hi all, UV 10 on HPUX Can someone tell me how to resize the VOC? Also, where do I go to search the archives? Thanks and have a great weekend. Scott --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] Resize VOC

2007-05-04 Thread John Hester
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:38 AM To: u2-Users Subject: [U2] Resize VOC Hi all, UV 10 on HPUX Can someone tell me how to resize the VOC? I've never needed to do

RE: [U2] Resize VOC

2007-05-04 Thread Ron Sharcott
with Universe. Ron Sharcott (3635) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:18 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Resize VOC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [U2] Resize VOC

2007-05-04 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
, Jeff Fitzgerald Fitzgerald Long, Inc. AD Or you could use FAST! ;-) /AD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:38 PM To: u2-Users Subject: [U2] Resize VOC Hi all, UV 10 on HPUX Can someone tell

RE: [U2] Resize VOC

2007-05-04 Thread John Jenkins
Of Ron Sharcott Sent: 04 May 2007 22:31 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Resize VOC If I remember correctly the best way is to resize the VOC from a UNIX script (assuming UNIX). When the script exits you should be able to start up Unidata with no problem. If you are in UniData

[U2] RESIZE Error

2007-04-24 Thread Baruch Salamander
I'm trying to RESIZE a file, but I'm getting a RESIZE error. RESIZE: Error on [filename]. File not resized. As a follow-up, an attempt was made to copy the content to a temporary file, delete the old one, re-create it, and copy the content back, but the system refuses to delete the old one due

Re: Spam:[U2] RESIZE Error

2007-04-24 Thread Jerry
@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Spam:[U2] RESIZE Error I'm trying to RESIZE a file, but I'm getting a RESIZE error. RESIZE: Error on [filename]. File not resized. As a follow-up, an attempt was made to copy the content to a temporary file, delete the old one, re-create

Re: [U2] RESIZE Error

2007-04-24 Thread Richard Nuckolls
Windows or Unix? Universe or Unidata? NFS mounted file system? On Apr 24, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Baruch Salamander wrote: I'm trying to RESIZE a file, but I'm getting a RESIZE error. RESIZE: Error on [filename]. File not resized. As a follow-up, an attempt was made to copy the content to a

RE: Spam:[U2] RESIZE Error

2007-04-24 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
There's a resize bit you can reset with filepeek. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:31 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: Spam:[U2] RESIZE Error If you were able to copy all of the records

Re: [U2] RESIZE Error

2007-04-24 Thread Baruch Salamander
Universe on Windows 2000 u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org writes: Windows or Unix? Universe or Unidata? NFS mounted file system? On Apr 24, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Baruch Salamander wrote: I'm trying to RESIZE a file, but I'm getting a RESIZE error. RESIZE: Error on [filename]. File not resized. As

RE: [U2] RESIZE Error

2007-04-24 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baruch Salamander Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:17 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RESIZE Error I'm trying to RESIZE a file, but I'm getting a RESIZE error. RESIZE: Error on [filename]. File not resized. As a follow-up, an attempt was made

[U2] RESIZE DYNAMIC FILES

2006-06-12 Thread Dave S
Does anyone have any tech tips on how to select parameters when resizing dynamic files ? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list

RE: [U2] RESIZE DYNAMIC FILES

2006-06-12 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RESIZE DYNAMIC FILES Does anyone have any tech tips on how to select parameters when resizing dynamic files ? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http

Re: [U2] RESIZE DYNAMIC FILES

2006-06-12 Thread Timothy Snyder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/12/2006 10:24:51 AM: Does anyone have any tech tips on how to select parameters when resizing dynamic files ? The following is from a published tech tip. It provides guidelines, but of course the nature of MV files makes it difficult to predict optimal sizing.

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