Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-12-04 00:22, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: There are actually 2 PRs for toast... one LCB and another in the engine itself. 5860 & 5018 Indeed - the LCB one started off as a transliteration of the engine implementation provided by @HedgeHao... It has the advantage of being a

Re: Why is node.js faster than LC server?

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-12-05 18:55, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Can you describe what you mean by fork() here? In a discussion a while back I made reference to an earlier post you'd made about fork(), but the response from the engine team left me with the impression that it's merely the way

Re: Why is node.js faster than LC server?

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Apologies for the top post, but it seemed easier than responding to the rather long single-track thread this has generated. :) On 2017-12-04 12:32, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: In looking at node.js it seems that two things stand out - LC server waits for the database to send a

Re: Specialty Fonts on Mobile -- OK? or Stay Away?

2017-11-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-16 15:53, Andrew Bell via use-livecode wrote: I've had some issues with my custom fonts not being displayed in iOS when I build using LC9. I'm assuming the font files are getting stored in a different location but haven't seen anything in the release notes and haven't had a chance

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-10 18:50, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote: I don't think this would help (below). What is nice is to be able to use professional illustration tools, and then add hypertext links to one of the objects in the svg with built in tools - for instance using Graphic, or OmniGraphl).

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-10 18:25, hh via use-livecode wrote: PLEASE, let us first have the basic enhanced object, probably "canvas". This will need at least a full year (my estimate). Well, let's first have the ability to display SVG :) My current approach (as I said previously) is to integrate SVG

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-10 19:02, hh via use-livecode wrote: @David. You respond to my answer for jbv (relating SVG-animation). The answer for you is two paragraphs upwards, a LC stack: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=129274#p129274 The algorithm there allows you to get the clicked shape. That's

Re: regression bug: corrupt filename at open printing to pdf

2017-11-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-09 11:01, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: Hello, LC 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 on Windows: I create PDFs with "open printing to pdf myFile.pdf". That works fine as far the filename doesn't contains Umlaute. If the filename contains Umlaute 2 PDF files are created (yes 2 files!).

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-09 15:13, hh via use-livecode wrote: @Mark. You wrote several times "... the LCB canvas abilities ..., which are a superset of the HTML5 Canvas abilities" It is just now more "planned to be a superset"? The HTML5 canvas has for example the ability to set and get dataURLs. And LCB

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-08 18:47, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote: By the way, this new control is a LC9 only widget. Right? Yes - SVG abilities will initially appear (in some form) in 9. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-08 23:02, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: I was just reading an article, this morning, about the trainwreck of new gestures to accommodate the X's lack of a home button, and I guess what the author was saying is pretty much what I'm trying to say: If it isn't obvious and easy,

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-07 17:42, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: No, the ERP is written in HP BASIC, so I would want to emulate the language, given the breadth and number of programs. I was thinking about writing wrappers for the various commands and functions of the language, but it won't be easy,

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-07 04:00, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: It's a LOT of code, all of which was originally written 30+ years ago, but we've been maintaining it ever since. Many of the other systems that we have written interface with this core, and extend it, since there are much better tools

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-06 15:34, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: This might be a stupid question, but might it be possible for this new control to completely replace the existing image control? It isn't a stupid question... There aren't very many special properties relating especially to images.

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-05 15:15, hh via use-livecode wrote: Until now I saw it like that: , and are HTML5 tags. And and are different concepts. Roughly is more an XML-based vector graphics format, Yes - SVG is a way of encoding a sequence of vector graphics commands using XML. is more an API

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-05 21:49, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 6 Nov 2017, at 6:24 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: will stop Jacque killing Mark when there is no abbreviation If we go with "canvas" I expect "cv" or similar. :) It did occur to me

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-05 00:59, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote: I like "Canvas" from LCB but unfortunately that is already taken. It would have been my favorite. Hmmm - actually, why not 'canvas'? Certainly there is a Canvas type in LiveCode Builder, but the 'canvas' idea hasn't been used in

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-03 19:33, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote: I like “vectorImage” too! “Picture" has been used for images for a long time, and we don’t want to add more confusion for users. Where do you think the confusion would come from? As I said one of the goals of this control would

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-03 19:02, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode wrote: This is good news!! Is there any reason not to call the control “SVG?” Three main reasons: - SVG is a somewhat human-unfriendly term - SVG is technically a vector graphics interchange format (and so an adjective, not a noun

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-03 14:19, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Hi all, My most recent talk at LCG (in October) was 'Building an SVG Widget' and in order to talk about such a thing, I needed to actually build one - so I did :) So, we are now firmly on the road to full SVG support in LiveCode

Re: JSON import error

2017-11-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-03 13:03, Phil Jimmieson via use-livecode wrote: Or when you’re preparing an example stack for the bug report and realise that it’s not a bug, you’ve been doing it wrong... Recipe stacks for bugs are useful for all kinds of reasons ;) Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~

The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi all, My most recent talk at LCG (in October) was 'Building an SVG Widget' and in order to talk about such a thing, I needed to actually build one - so I did :) So, we are now firmly on the road to full SVG support in LiveCode! At the moment the implementation only supports geometric

Re: JSON import error

2017-11-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-11-02 19:57, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 11/2/17 6:52 AM, Dave Kilroy via use-livecode wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging Yeah. Story of my life. I've since hit another error in the JSON import

Re: DG2 Question

2017-10-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
The latter - we are adding functionality to the existing datagrid, and also improving accelerated rendering mode so that we can ensure we can make the datagrid scroll smoothly on mobile devices (although those improvements are generally applicable and not confined to the dg). Warmest Regards,

Re: libURLLast/xx/headers on mobile?

2017-10-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-10-13 12:15, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: I'm trying to debug a case where making some calls to an external API works fine on desktop, but fails on mobile (both iOS and Android) with "400 bad request". Unfortunately it seems that libURLLastHTTPHeaders() and

Re: [ANN] Release 8.2.0 DP-2

2017-10-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-10-11 19:09, Dan Brown via use-livecode wrote: Any news on the progress of datagrid v2 and enhanced graphics speed? Just to embellish what Panos said... There has been 2-3 of us working on the DG2 project over the last couple of sprints: 1) Monte has been updating the DG to

Re: Atkinson dither algorithm & 'for each' loop

2017-10-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-10-12 19:35, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote: Peter Read wrote: One note of caution regarding the use of the "repeat for each" loop, whilst you will get a loop iteration for every value in the collection (fldhexa3 in your example), you are not guaranteed the order in which they

Repeat For Each Iteration Order (was Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 169, Issue 18)

2017-10-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-10-12 18:38, Peter Reid via use-livecode wrote: I agree that the redundant indexing is an expensive approach, however I have found that this abnormal structure of a repeat for each loop can be a lot faster than the other loop forms in some circumstances. I can't find the reference that

Re: HTTP PUT?

2017-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-10-06 15:38, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: We can perform an HTTP GET using "get URL xxx" We can perform an HTTP POST using "post yy to xxx" How can we perform an HTTP PUT? Using 'put': put zz into url xxx Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~

Grouping Controls in selectGroupedControls mode

2017-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi all, I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this report: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20511 The summary of the report is that when a 'group' operation fails you only get a 'beep' and no indication as to why the failure occurred. Group operations will fail if the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3

2017-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-10-06 06:57, hlowe via use-livecode wrote: As Apple no longer supports running 32 bit apps under iOS 11, would it be possible to make including a 32 bit slice optional, as defaulting to universal binaries almost doubles the size of the app bundle (my app went from 18 MB when built with

Re: Expanded dictionary in LC 9

2017-10-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-10-06 09:41, James At The Hale via use-livecode wrote: I knew there was work behind the scenes with the documentation but not to this extent. While reinstating some formatting on the make docset stack I discovered than under LC 8.2 and below an enquiry to the dictionary yields 3940

Re: MacOS 10.13 crashes LC after color dialog

2017-09-29 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-29 16:15, hh via use-livecode wrote: Reported, of course, #20490. Fixed, of course, https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6012. This patch will be back-ported to 8.1.6 as 8.1.6-gm-3 - this will appear as soon as we can get it built and uploaded - it will appear in the auto

Re: A modest proposal for a new property

2017-09-27 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-27 03:20, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Been there. When they're stacked on top of each other the transparent part of the rect is still the object under the cursor, and so obscures what's underneath. Methinks that could be considered a bug :) The graphic object does do

Re: How to to type bottom to up and right to left in a field

2017-09-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-21 19:48, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: For example, let's say you have a right to left language FOO which has letters A, B, C; compared to a left to right language BAR which has letters X, Y and Z. Hello in FOO is spoken A-B-C; Hello in BAR is spoken X-Y-Z. However

Re: How to to type bottom to up and right to left in a field

2017-09-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-21 18:48, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Indeed it does. At first glance the behavior seems at least unintuitive. It also appears to prevent the Backspace key from having any effect. Is it a bug? A feature? Hmmm... On further consideration it may make sense, since the

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-20 13:15, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode wrote: "Well, if there a simple procedure that we at LiveCode can do that will catch really obvious bugs before sending out a DP, it is not worth doing because it won't catch all the bugs and have 100% percentage coverage." I fail to see the

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-18 08:13, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode wrote: No worries, I always use TTF Courier New, so yes it is monospaced. Ugly? Maybe! But for me very readable, and installed almost everywhere. FWIW I think I fixed this first thing today: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5949

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-14 18:43, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: That would be the best of both worlds for me. We wouldn't need a trigger at all and there would be no visual distraction. Make it so! :) Engage enhancement request - http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20397 :) Warmest

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-14 18:07, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I do think I might use it on those occasions when I can't remember a term, which usually happens with newly introduced features. The suggestion to put a quick toggle into the contextual menu is very tempting for that reason. Another

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-14 17:57, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote: Its a bit ironic that the Ten Thumbs Typing Tutor company is now helping us avoid typing. Hehe - of course, another point of view is that it means you can save your typing effort on using more verbose object, handler and variable

Re: script/engine broken when moved to 64bit server at JaguarPC

2017-09-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Curt, If you email me off list and don't mind sharing your ssh details temporarily with us, we will take a look to see what the problem is. CentOS 7 is one of our supported Linux distros for LiveCode server so we'd like to find out what configuration JaguarPC has to cause the problem and

Re: script/engine broken when moved to 64bit server at JaguarPC

2017-09-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Curt, On 2017-09-08 17:53, Curtis Ford via use-livecode wrote: I tried uploading the 64bit version (from LiveCodeServer-8_1_6-Linux-x86_64.zip) and setting permissions to 755, but without success. JaguarPC isn't familiar with Livecode and hasn't been able to suggest anything; the older,

Re: replace and unicode?

2017-09-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-07 12:59, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi all, so embarrassing, there was no SPACE after the mm2, but a TAB! :-/ So I got it working, thank you for your help. That was going to be my next question - were the 'spaces' actually spaces :) Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark

Re: replace and unicode?

2017-09-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-07 12:35, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi firends, I am trying to replace "mm2" in a unicode text file with "mm(superscript2)" but obviously "replace" does not do what I want or I am missing something!? My effort so far: ... ## Read TXT file and make it LC compatible,

Re: customPropertyless

2017-09-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-05 15:58, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: onmouseEnter putthe customProperties of meintofld "propps" endmouseEnter The 'customProperties' property returns an array... So try: put the keys of (the customProperties of me) into fld "propps" Warmest Regards, Mark. --

Re: Print to PDF output dodgy on Windows

2017-09-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-04 09:20, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: Thanks Mark - I wasn't aware of that setting. I'll try setting it to true before I print each report and see what happens. Based on the dictionary entry it sounds like I'll need to set it back to false again before my script updates all the

Re: Print to PDF output dodgy on Windows

2017-09-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-04 06:43, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: Before I bug report this, has anyone else had problems printing styled text to PDF on Windows? I’ve been printing multipage reports (lots of formatting, graphics etc) to PDF using LC on a Mac for ages without any problems (well, not this

Re: [off]macbook model

2017-09-01 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-01 17:03, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Tim Cook needs a lot of people to shout "Universal System Bus" at him! Well, he must have been listening as the latest MacBook Pro has 4 USB-C ports and a headphone jack - nothing else. At the moment, of course, only the power

Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

2017-08-31 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-31 18:22, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote: As Panos wrote: CMYK images should display correctly if you are using LC >=8.1.3: I am using 7.1.3. This is what I meant that this was a known problem. I just fetched 8.1.6 to check but I won’t habe time to do it until next week.

Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

2017-08-31 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-31 17:46, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote: Mark, if you follow the thread, you will find that I hit a known problem and it was remedied in a newer version of LC8. The comment/tip from Keith is quite useful since the files I produce are printed by different print shops in

Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

2017-08-31 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Robert, Are you able to file a bug with the offending image? The engine does handle colour profiles in many cases so there may be an issue with that kind of profile (if the image has one). Of course, if the image does not have a profile then it might the engine isn't using an appropriate

Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

2017-08-31 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-31 15:34, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: I can work with getting a snapshot just from the browser widget, for my particular case. As long as it also includes the keyboard in the image. Have you tried 'the [[effective] working] screenRect'? I think 'the effect working screenRect'

Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

2017-08-31 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-31 14:25, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiview/1622589-drawviewhierarchyinrect Turns out this works quite well! It certainly manages to capture a browser widget on iOS which is displaying the google homepage. There is still

Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

2017-08-31 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Jonathan, On 2017-08-31 14:09, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: Thanks for checking Paul. It appears that, with a browser widget on screen, I am only getting an image from the parts of the screen with the browser widget. With import snapshot, the non-browser parts of the image are

Re: Corrupted Binaries?

2017-08-29 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-28 11:04, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Sorry I can't provide any more assistance at the moment - we are still trying to work out exactly what the problem is! I think we found the problem: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20308 Apple clearly upgraded

Re: Corrupted Binaries?

2017-08-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Dan, On 2017-08-25 00:16, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Anyone know what they might be talking about? There are no files being copied in (“Copy Files” section of the App Settings).Is this because I checked “Disable ATS”? It would appear as if Apple have 'done something'

Re: Search Values of Array in "One Go"

2017-08-25 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-25 17:43, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: @ Mark Waddingham Awesome! thanks, I will test this later… Yes, my solution, at the urging of our Cohorts of the Round Table LiveCode Data Diggers, who earlier said "Don't go looking for your needles in arrays." ( I just

Re: Search Values of Array in "One Go"

2017-08-25 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-23 17:24, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: We use these arrays with media metadata that is extracted from our database of media metadata. The dbase was originally designed for lots of columns so that "there is nothing we cannot know about a media item" incorporating

Re: Android Security (was Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything)

2017-08-24 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
I must confess I read Jacques post as meaning the Google Play Store (google play services are something else - although related). If the store is now present on that percentage of devices then the problem with OS updates more than justifies the recent tightening of the rules of the store...

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-23 12:04, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I fear that these two parts of code are quite distinct, however, so it isn't a case of do one and get the other free... The image one is probably quite straight-forward (although, I could well be wrong); the group one (judging

Re: Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-22 20:31, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: Basically, only the browser, pointer and help tools will recurse into groups - the paint tools will not ...nor drawing tools or object tools (eg field or button). Well that's a slightly different case

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-22 17:10, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Educate me, what is toast? It pops up a small overlay on the screen with a message, which then fades away after a fixed period of time. A bit like notifications on Mac, and the small bubble that can appear above the taskbar on Windows.

Re: lock screen gotcha revisited

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-22 17:31, hh via use-livecode wrote: @Mark. Say I have 24 copies of the LC clock widget in order to display different time zones. How can I have them in "seconds-sync"? In LC Script, with LCS-clocks I would do a screenLock, update the clocks and then unlock. In LC Builder I even

Paint tools and image creation

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi all, We had an issue come into support about using the paint tools on a grouped image - this has come up before (years ago, at least). Basically, only the browser, pointer and help tools will recurse into groups - the paint tools will not. This means that if you use the paint tools over

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 23:38, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Hmm… nobody told me about a crash… anyway, as Mark said it’s probably best done in LCB now. I wouldn't usually suggest duplicating effort / code - however the Toast function is too hard to resist in this case... If only to show a

Re: lock screen gotcha revisited

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-22 04:41, hh via use-livecode wrote: The real interesting thing is now for me how to lock the screen in LC Builder? I couldn't find a way to do that. Who knows? There isn't one - although you can use 'execute script' to use LCS's lock/unlock screen. Indeed, I should check whether

Re: Array literals and script only stack initialization (was Re: Developing first on android)

2017-08-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-22 00:23, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: I can’t recall getting an explanation of what the dead end was but my guess is that it was fact that a merge conflict would be a nightmare to sort out and it is _very_ hard to write a non-lossy stack file format that won’t have a lot of

Re: lock screen gotcha revisited

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-19 04:41, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Except when it doesn't. There seems to be an override in the lock count if any unlock uses a visual effect. I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not. Internally there is a counter - and only one - the engine uses it too when it needs

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 17:41, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Monte's external works great on newer Android devices but seems to crash on older ones. That's why I had to replace it with a hacked up fake in my Android object library. There's a pull request in git for a native toast that is waiting

Re: acceleratedRendering scope

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 19:13, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: It is on iOS. Turning it on and off as needed has worked perfectly, so it is no problem. Thanks for explaining! Okay - so obviously it hasn't 'got any better' since iOS4 which was when we added acceleratedRendering mode... This is

Re: Array literals and script only stack initialization (was Re: Developing first on android)

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 18:09, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: What about something like import into [objectRef] from array [arrayRef] OR update [objectRef] from array [arrayRef] where the array would be in the format of the export and the object would be an existing object. There are a

Re: acceleratedRendering scope

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 18:51, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: Hi Bob- I can report that accelerated rendering "steals" resources from the browser widget. I have to turn it off when displaying a 3D map in the browser widget, then turn it back on for scrolling groups. Otherwise, the map renders in a

Re: acceleratedRendering scope

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 18:41, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Hi all. Since acceleratedRendering is a stack property, does it only apply to a given stack, and not, for example to a sub stack? What would the advantage be of having it off? If none, why even have it? It is per stack, and not

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 14:55, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: This mislayering is with browser widgets that are grouped into different groups. Would that make a difference? Quite possibly! The engine does extra work to handle grouped widgets which use a native layer (it has to synthesize the

Re: Sending a message to users that floats above everything

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 03:53, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: I have been using "answer", "ask", and the mobile picker because they appear on top. However, these system dialogs are not always pretty, especially on Android. Is there another option? I tried using a browser widget, but that does not

Re: Is tsnet always better?

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 02:25, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: LC gives us multiple ways to connect to online databases. Is TSnet always the best performing method? Generally if you are accessing databases over the internet then fronting them with an HTTP-based gateway is by far the 'best'

Re: Array literals and script only stack initialization (was Re: Developing first on android)

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 12:06, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 21 Aug 2017, at 7:58 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I think its been suggested before that a 'loadStack' message might be quite useful (perhaps it should be 'createStack' - w

Array literals and script only stack initialization (was Re: Developing first on android)

2017-08-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-21 01:31, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Right now you need to handle preOpenStack in stack A and setup the hierarchy because stack B does not retain the behavior property when saved and does not get any kind of message when used as a behavior. It may actually be a good idea

Re: Applescript Fails in Standalone on Mac Built with 8.1.6

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-18 18:14, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: I'm so new I can't address the history but seeing where the fix was implemented it should not fall out unless the build process is significantly changed.It is in the same place all of the language localization files are specified. I

Re: Developing first on android

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-18 18:05, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: What about a non-binary stack file format? Something XML based and derived from the actual in-memory stack object (would need to be integrated with the IDE/engine to be really useful though - to allow seamless/native import/export). I

Re: Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-18 17:18, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: That actually is a great explanation which solves a mystery I've often wondnered about, which is how a handler with a different variable name can contain the *actual* original variable. I thought the engine actually created a new variable

Re: Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-18 17:14, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Not sure I understand this allegory. Do you mean that there might be dragons all over the place waiting to eat me? Or do you mean there may be dragons waiting to eat different bits of me in different places? Or do you mean they were about

Re: Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-18 15:53, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: I understand the difference. I'm just trying to help with the mental arithmetic. I, and others, I'm sure, will constantly forget where the "@" goes, for instance. Okay so - the question to ask is - what would make you forget where to

Re: Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-18 15:21, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: So how about trying to make it a little easier to read, and using "->" instead (a 4D way of identifying pointers)? The position of the symbol indicates if we have are referencing or dereferencing. ->a is a reference to a (pointer to a),

Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-04 17:39, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: May I hijack this thread to have another go at promoting my feature request for a bit of syntax sugar around parameters which I _think_ would not have a very deep implementation requirement?

Re: htaccess rewrite rule to https let my apps stop working

2017-08-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-18 13:58, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: Hello, I attached a certificate to our domain and started switching our domain / web from http to https, because of the security alerts of some browsers saying that our site isn't safe. So far so good. Our web hoster recommended

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-15 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-15 14:26, hh via use-livecode wrote: But better stop manual deletion now. As long as you do that probably nothing will improve/change. It would be an action of 2 minutes to enable you and some others (Richard) to do that in a few seconds. I have asked Heather about this, but

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-14 11:14, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Hmm… so say merge(“ string “, resolve escapes) = ` string ` ? I’ve got to say I wasn’t thinking of interpolation as I thought that merge does that sufficiently well. Seeing 'special tokens' as syntactic sugar is definitely the way to

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-14 10:38, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Oh, please not backtick! The character is awkward to type (its one of the ones that moves around a lot on keyboard layouts) and difficult to read (and always makes me think something more is going on - e.g. as in bash scripts!).

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-13 23:26, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Ha “(and may not be)” should really be “(and is really really unlikely to be)” but still it was an interesting thing to have a play with. In its current form - yes - it is unlikely. There are several (some orthogonal, some not)

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the relevant privileges. I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis and having others who are willing to assist can only help. Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Aug 2017, at 21:26, Richard

Re: Livecode Mobile App in Background

2017-08-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
One of things the engine doesn't give you notifications on suspend and resume - it is something on the todo list, however the last time we tried it turned out to be considerably harder than we thought (although that could be that we were overthinking things...). In reality these kinds of

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
age size (since these LC binaries as pure view can be as small as 50 K) > and then we just use side loading for what really *is* only *data* > > this would be playing it very safe, and in someways, guard against ad hoc dev > CMS which is too easy to do with LC > > > BR >

Re: [OT] Draconian computer company policies, was: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
A very interesting read - thanks Curry :) I guess I was very much focused on the specific clauses on downloading executable code - which is no longer just an Apple thing - Google's is now very similar (i.e. Stricter than it used to be) and I suspect the other app stores on android will follow

Re: Speed of control lookup (Was Re: Parent of Target)

2017-08-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 23:58, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: That would mean speed improvements could be done on an object reference that is relatively robust to changes in the object tree and unless you are creating an IDE you would be very unlikely to need to do the LCB object reference

Re: [OT] Draconian computer company policies, was: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 19:22, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: So, I wonder why there is not a way of putting one's iPad app onot the web in a way (and I don't mean via Cydia) that will allow people to download it onto their tablets independently, as one can do on an Android device? There is

Re: [OT] Draconian computer company policies, was: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 18:49, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: Richmond, this may be rare but I'm 100% in agreement with you! My device, my management. I don't have the right to do something illegal or endanger others, but otherwise, I call the shots. Indeed - you are free to do whatever you

Re: [OT] Draconian computer company policies, was: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 18:54, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Now putting a LiveCode standalone onto an iPad that does thing that Apple doesn't like isn't always the same thing as putting things onto an iPad that is unsafe. I've already pointed out that you can put whatever you want onto

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 18:00, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is while telling everyone to control themselves is good, removing these capabilities from LC is bad, so if the time comes where it is necessary to do something to stop someone from behaving

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