Re: "For Young Coders"

Why, when I hear a phrase that involves the word "Coders" do I feel a bit queasy? Probably because I also feel queasy when I hear words such as "Edutainment" and phrases such as "Learn how to do XXX like the experts in 15 minutes or less." Death By Scratch:

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

I wonder why we have both lockUpdates and boundingRect. They seem very similar. On 6/13/17 7:54 PM, Scott Rossi via use-livecode wrote: Keep in mind, there’s also the lockUpdates property of groups, which while differing mechanically “under the hood”, essentially causes the same perceived

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

What about "keepGroupRect"? Like set the keepGroupRect of grp "xyz" to true That way it explicitly limits it to groups. Or it could be "KeepRect" but that might imply a more general meaning. Bill P William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Jun 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Richard Gaskin via

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Keep in mind, there’s also the lockUpdates property of groups, which while differing mechanically “under the hood”, essentially causes the same perceived result — while enabled, a group’s rect is not changed when its child objects are resized/repositioned. I don’t know how all these are

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

james at thehales.id.au wrote: > Jacque wrote: >> I agree with the concept in general, but the word "crop" implies >> permanent removal. When you crop an image, it permanently erases the >> parts outside the rectangle. Unfortunately I can't think of a better >> term. Maybe something like

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Jacque wrote: > I agree with the concept in general, but the word "crop" implies > permanent removal. When you crop an image, it permanently erases the > parts outside the rectangle. Unfortunately I can't think of a better > term. Maybe something like "prevent auto-resizing"? Actually it

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

> On 14 Jun 2017, at 8:19 am, Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes, in essence. If you have a group and set the clipsToRect property to true > (there’s no way to set it in the PI yet—that’s what I’m going to add), you > can then change the rect of the

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

> Brahmanathaswami. wrote: > I am pretty sure that > > Crops to rect > > would suffice. +1 Even I could follow that argument without reading it twice. ;-) James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

Goodness, I am not sure if it is a good idea to remember (sequence may be off.) HyperCard Supercard Director IShell (as well as the Apple technology it was based on, but whose name I forget..) Oracle Media Objects Metropolis (I really like this) Meta card Revolution .long sojourn "silver

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

On 06/13/2017 03:19 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote: ClipsToRect is the property name. So what “plain language” label do you think would be best for the PI? I always have my preference set to display the LC property rather than the 'description', so I don't really care, but... how

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

AnchorRect? Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

+1 but too late. Bob S > On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:15 , Scott Rossi via use-livecode > wrote: > > > > The most important rule to follow when establishing any new property should > be: Don't use "dont". > > The application of a "negative property" should never

Better way to display code and quotes

One reason I like the forums more than the use-llist is the formatted separation of code and quotes from the body text. Having this information simply part of the post is hard to see and harder to separate visually. Is there no feature of the list to do this at all? Even stack overflow has this

I need help with building standalones ! :-)

Normally I don't build standalones - I simply either run the stack in the IDE, or via stackrunner, so I'm in 'unknown territory' here :-) The app works fine in the IDE, but when I build a standalone, when I do (full code below) put revOpenDatabase(:sqlite",tFileName) into temp I get

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

> On Jun 13, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes, in essence. If you have a group and set the clipsToRect property to true > (there’s no way to set it in the PI yet—that’s what I’m going to add), you > can then change the rect of the

Re: ANN: Widget Wizard

How Clever! I can’t wait to try it. Thank you Mark. Roger > On Jun 13, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > I just posted Widget Wizard to revOnline. > > Widget Wizard is a utility to help in the creation of LiveCode extensions. > You can

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Yes, in essence. If you have a group and set the clipsToRect property to true (there’s no way to set it in the PI yet—that’s what I’m going to add), you can then change the rect of the group, and the group will *not* automatically reset its rect to the size of the child controls + margin. It is

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

(The ? was meant to soften my suggestion, not to indicate that I'm not following - that's that's always a possibility) Phil On 6/13/17 3:11 PM, Phil Davis wrote: So it's about manually updating the rect vs. having it in an auto-update mode? Phil Davis On 6/13/17 3:01 PM, Devin Asay via

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

So it's about manually updating the rect vs. having it in an auto-update mode? Phil Davis On 6/13/17 3:01 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote: So far I’m kind of partial to Scott R’s “Persistent rect”. Conversely, it could be something like “Auto-update rect”, but then the checkbox would

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

So far I’m kind of partial to Scott R’s “Persistent rect”. Conversely, it could be something like “Auto-update rect”, but then the checkbox would be opposite the property setting. That’s almost as bad as something like dontUpdateRect. (Sorry, Scott, plug your ears.) Devin On Jun 13, 2017, at

Re: "For Young Coders"

yes. frootz r us On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have to assume you are referring to the app store of that fruit company > since no platform was specified. :) > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Mike Kerner via

Re: "For Young Coders"

Could it be the company who shamefully strangled HyperCard to death? ;-) On 13 June 2017 at 21:35, Roger Eller via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have to assume you are referring to the app store of that fruit company > since no platform was specified. :) > > > On Tue,

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

On 6/13/17 4:17 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode wrote: or ‘Clip Group to rect’ There are a few others like that, where the explanation is just the original term (or close) with spaces added. I always felt that didn't explain much. But the suggestion does have company in the PI. --

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

or ‘Clip Group to rect’ Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Group crops to rect > Jacque wrote: > I agree with the concept in general, but the word "crop" implies permanent > removal. When you crop an image, it permanently erases the parts outside the > rectangle. Unfortunately I can't think of a better term. Maybe something like > "prevent

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Tks Devin for moving this over here. @ Jacque: OK rignt-- agreed "crop" is wrong.. because, yes, it implies "irrevocably chopping off image data" But "lock" also has the problem of assuming the loc is locked, which it is not. How about a word that really is what it does Constrain rect

Re: "For Young Coders"

I have to assume you are referring to the app store of that fruit company since no platform was specified. :) On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Check out the app store. There is a new section right at the top, called > "for

"For Young Coders"

Check out the app store. There is a new section right at the top, called "for young coders", with a variety of tools... -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did

ANN: Widget Wizard

I just posted Widget Wizard to revOnline. Widget Wizard is a utility to help in the creation of LiveCode extensions. You can define some simple parameters, then click the Create Widget button and Widget Wizard will create a new folder containing a single .lcb file. You can build and test the

Re: Stack Files and Behaviors

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > > 3) By default, all the behaviors were added at the beginning of this project, but, a recent "event" tells me that you *do not* need to add behaviors to the stack files. > >

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Jacque, I moved this tangent to a new thread. See thread "clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)”. FWIW I had the same reaction to “crop”. Devin On Jun 13, 2017, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

On 6/13/17 12:36 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: there is also strong logic for Group crops to rect This also correlates well with the word "clips" in the property name itself. i.e. zero ambiquity I agree with the concept in general, but the word "crop" implies

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

My understanding is, “before” and “after” are really only intended to work with mouse events. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > On Jun 13, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > OK so

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Oh boy, this custom control thing is awesome + external behaviors as text only scripts… What a break through! At 60+ should not get too excited about anything, but this has my brain on fire. I even took all the code out of the control, moved it to a behavior… and then, even for buttons the

clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Good suggestions, Scott and BR. My list now: - Persistent rect - Crop to rect - Lock rect (analogous to lockLoc’s “Lock size and position”) Anyone else want to chime in? Yes, I admit I threw up a little bit in my mouth when I typed “Don’t…”, but in my defense it was pretty far down the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

I thought with “real windows machine” Curry wanted to express that he is not running Windows in a virtual machine. Regards, Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > Am 13.06.2017 um 19:31 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode >

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

I wasn't trying to be "deep", it was the word "real" that threw me off balance. Richmond. On 6/13/17 8:31 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: > What does "a real Windows machine" mean? A machine running Windows. Much like a "Linux machine" is a machine

Stack Files and Behaviors

1) Can someone confirm the end it the description of the stackfile entry in the dictionary seems to be truncated… i.e. someword missing there? 2) Maintaining stack files for the main stack from which the standalone is being built, across a project in active development by a team has caveats.

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

re: label for adding clipsToRect to the PI from a graphic design point of view…where people are frequently doing this very same thing inside some frame|window|div etc. in fact, may be switching back and forth between their image design environment and Livecode… there is also strong logic

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

Richmond Mathewson wrote: > What does "a real Windows machine" mean? A machine running Windows. Much like a "Linux machine" is a machine running Linux. It's not that deep. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

The most important thing is your message is "I remember teaching myself" . . . LiveCode should be banging on about this endlessly; I am trying to teach myself C# and getting thoroughly bogged down. I am also gently teaching myself HyperNext, and because that is Object-based like Hypercard

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

What does "a real Windows machine" mean? I've never heard of Windows machines. I've heard of Macintosh machines, that run Mac OS (and other operating systems). I've heard of IBM compatible machines that run Windows (and other operating systems). I've heard of Archimedes machines that run

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

The most important rule to follow when establishing any new property should be: Don't use "dont". The application of a "negative property" should never have been established (dontWrap, I'm talking to you). Properties should always be non-negative and simply enabled or disabled depending on

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

On Jun 12, 2017, at 11:45 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: On 2017-06-12 22:22, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: For group controls you will find that it is. Try it. It's quite handy. Another useful thing

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2017-06-13 17:37, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> FWIW the clipsToRect property does not appear among the keys of >> "the properties" of a group either. >> >> Should I add a note to that report, or file a separate report for >> that? > > If you could file a

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

On 2017-06-13 17:37, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: I think this might be missing from the PI control definitions: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18945 FWIW this property does not appear among the keys of "the properties" of a group either.

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Mark Waddingham wrote: > I think this might be missing from the PI control definitions: > > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18945 FWIW this property does not appear among the keys of "the properties" of a group either. Should I add a note to that report, or file a separate

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > On 6/12/17, 7:45 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Waddingham wrote: > > Another useful thing which I'm not sure is particularly visible > (but is in the dictionary!) is the group 'clipsToRect' property. ... > Mark …Ha! "OOooh Myy Gawd" > > had I

Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

Ditto… I remember teaching myself HyperCard scripting by writing a speaking clock. Wonder what happened to that bit of code? Good that we’re still here though. Graham > On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode > wrote: > > Sigh, me too I guess.

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2017-06-12 22:22, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> For group controls you will find that it is. Try it. It's quite >> handy. > > Another useful thing which I'm not sure is particularly visible (but > is in the dictionary!) is the group 'clipsToRect'

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

> LiveCode 8.1.5 RC-1 contains 72 bug fixes, new features, as well as > security and stability improvements: > - Several crashes have been fixed. Thanks, I'm liking this version! The crashes, hangups, funky cursors, and other glitches in 813/814 had been a hindrance. I'm on a real Windows

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Mark Waddingham wrote: This might have been mentioned somewhere else in this thread, but its probably worth repeating if so as a group with clipsToRect true, and a resizeControl handler makes a good base for a custom control. BR: indeed confirmed just by setting that one property

Re: Mac PPC

6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if > anyone can tell me the last LC

Mac PPC

I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if anyone can tell me the last LC version to run on Mac PPC? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

On 2017-06-13 08:53, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Mark …Ha! "OOooh Myy Gawd" had I known this from the beginning it would all have "worked out of the box" because the resetting rects and locs of child objects of the group was causing the rect of the group to "jump around"

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

Mark …Ha! "OOooh Myy Gawd" had I known this from the beginning it would all have "worked out of the box" because the resetting rects and locs of child objects of the group was causing the rect of the group to "jump around" hence there no fixed coord system to work from. This is great… right

Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking back... HyperCard Supercard Plus Oracle Media Objects Toolbook MetaCard Revolution Livecode Jeff > Me too. > > Bob S > > >>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode >>>