Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/19/2017 06:54 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE CANDIDATE version #2? Why are significant features being added at all to the 8.x branch? What standard (if any) do Livecode version numbers follow? I was wondering along the same lines. I

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:50, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/19/2017 04:49 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I'm honestly struggling to understand the problem here Do this on linux: (might be a good idea to have a terminal window running already) (especially on a second monitor)

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 19:04, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: On 7/19/17 7:15 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: I had never heard of backdrop before, and would have had no idea to try to deal with it in the message box. That's funny; that backdrop goes back to at least the Free

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:59, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-19 18:32, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: All this talk about the background has me wondering: would it be useful to anyone here if we had a way to: - set the layer of a stack below all other LC stacks (opposite

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/19/2017 04:49 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I'm honestly struggling to understand the problem here Do this on linux: (might be a good idea to have a terminal window running already) (especially on a second monitor) install rc2 launch a virgin installation of rc2 see the

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"Virgin" on the ridiculous . . . sorry, that one was just too good to resist. Richmond. On 7/19/17 7:50 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/19/2017 04:49 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I'm honestly struggling to understand the problem here Do this on linux: (might

a picture is shown in a player object instead of a movie when using a streaming url

2017-07-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Hi, i am trying to stream the URL https://zdf1314-lh.akamaihd.net/i/de14_v1@392878/master.m3u8 in an player object. I´ve set the filename of the player object to the streaming url, but the video is not played, but only a still image

Export SVG as PNG?

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Hello! Is it possible to export a svg widget to a png and retain the transparency? If so, how would you go about doing that? Thanks! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: Export SVG as PNG?

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Klaus, Ali and Richmond, Thank you for the replies! Perfecto! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 7/19/17 7:15 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: > >> >> I had never heard of backdrop before, and would have had no idea to try to >> deal with it in the message box. >> > >

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Looking at the PR it was meant to only set the backdrop if users were > still in the first run mode of the start center. Uhm . . . why would anyone think that that would be a *good*

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > However, in context of my post - I was more talking about 'not being able > to see the problem with the idea of putting the backdrop on by default for > first-run users to ensure that the

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 7/19/17 7:15 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Looking at the PR it was meant to only set the backdrop if users were still in the first run mode of the start center. Uhm . .

Re: Export SVG as PNG?

2017-07-19 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Dan, > Am 19.07.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode > : > > Hello! Is it possible to export a svg widget to a png and retain the > transparency? If so, how would you go about doing that? yes, syntax is like for a snapshot of a group

Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
All this talk about the background has me wondering: would it be useful to anyone here if we had a way to: - set the layer of a stack below all other LC stacks (opposite of palette) - set the layer ouf a stack below all other windows (opposite of systemWindow) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/18/2017 10:51 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: Just out of interest, if it is not having the dictionary that makes them 'unusable', does it launch correctly in a browser if you change the script of revIDEBrowserWidgetUnavailable to return true? Well, the CEF problem is one of the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-19 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
Cool, yeah I can see how the I-beam issue is a bit of a show-stopper! revIDEBrowserWidgetUnavailable is in the IDE library, line 4696: https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript#L4696 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:33 PM Mark Wieder via

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
Thanks, Panos! That worked. I changed the arrangement of my Mac screens, so I guess it was stranded. ~Roger On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:42 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > @Roger: > > Could it be the case that the Preferences stack does open,

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:44, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/19/2017 06:54 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE CANDIDATE version #2? Why are significant features being added at all to the 8.x branch? What standard (if any) do Livecode version

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/19/2017 09:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: However, in context of my post - I was more talking about 'not being able to see the problem with the idea of putting the backdrop on by default for first-run users to ensure that the tutorials are as easy to follow as possible

Re: Export SVG as PNG?

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I would simplfy that to: export snapshot of widget "XXX" to file "XXX.png" as PNG no need to mess around with "the rect of". Richmond. On 7/19/17 6:44 pm, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: export snapshot from rect (the rect of widget 1) of widget 1 to file ( specialfolderpath("desktop") &

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:59, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: - set the layer ouf a stack below all other windows (opposite of systemWindow) It might be useful - although probably not implementable (judging by how hard it is to get the backdrop to work reliably on all platforms). This case

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
My 2c, Mark Waddingham deserves promotion to a state of eternal bliss for his magnificent command of the virtue of patience. Best, Bill P William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Jul 19, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
Do your keyboard shortcuts work Mark? You could use Ctrl+M to pop open the message box, and set the backdrop to none, then toggle it on and off via the View menu, then hopefully it should be gone from your preferences. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:25 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread hh via use-livecode
The backdrop is a problem for the linux platform since I'm with LiveCode (4 years now). If you ever click on linux into the backdrop you are lost. That's why this was my first Raspi stack: a 'work-around' for that. (Raspi stacks collection #1) ___

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"only set the backdrop if users were still in the first run mode of the start center." Even that is a "load of old Bollo"; I'm sure that a lot of people trying out LiveCode for the first time are going to go "gae quair" when they see their desktop vanish. I really wonder if anyone, anywhere

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 08:56, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Even that is a "load of old Bollo"; I'm sure that a lot of people trying out LiveCode for the first time are going to go "gae quair" when they see their desktop vanish. Possibly - but until you test such a thing, a statement

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
Personally, I have always liked, and often used a light gray backdrop to minimize distractions from the OS. It makes LiveCode feel more like a unified environment. ~Roger On Jul 19, 2017 4:55 AM, "Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-07-19 08:56,

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I got that as well ; not good. Richmond. On 7/19/17 2:37 am, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: I haven't seen this type of user abuse since StarOffice 4 . . . Opening 8.1.6-rc2 turns on a backdrop. (Mac Sierra) Even worse, it sets a default so that launching RC1 has that backdrop. It took

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 7/19/17 2:32 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-19 13:25, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: "the question is this:" How many new users of LiveCode are actually "brand new" in the sense that they have NO computer programming experience at all? A significant

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:40, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: How many of those brand new users are going to start teaching themselves LiveCode at home, and how many are going to go through a guided course in LiveCode in some kind of classroom setting? Most are going to be going through it

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"the question is this:" How many new users of LiveCode are actually "brand new" in the sense that they have NO computer programming experience at all? And a few supplementary questions: How many brand new users are going to be "freaked out" when the desktop "they know and love" vanishes

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
I am sorry, but my French is not so good. Google translate gave me the following translation to English: * Everyone to his taste but this, o, ent it is not a choice! I would like a digestive. But still wondering what you wanted to say. (The German translation was even more confusing)

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
In English: Each to his own taste, but this is not a choice. I want a short, alcoholic French drink to settle my stomach. In Lallans (Scots): Ilka mon mun dree his ain wierd, but its nae his ain juist nou, an Ahm ettlin fae sic tae settle masen. I do not stretch very far with German, I'm

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:25, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: "the question is this:" How many new users of LiveCode are actually "brand new" in the sense that they have NO computer programming experience at all? A significant enough percentage to make it worthwhile a vector to consider.

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I've just run 8.1.6 past "my kiddos" (even though their summer classes have finished it is amazing what happens when I write "ice cream" on Facebook) and about half of them liked the backdrop, but none of them like the backdrop "as a boring colour". This is where we get all Shakespearian and

[OT] Lumpy Custard

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
My grandmother never made custard; mainly because she knew I had a strongly developed revulsion towards all types of milk puddings. But many, many school dinners were made even more disgusting than they already were by the presence of lumpy custard. Way back when (i.e. before the descent of

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:19, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I've just run 8.1.6 past "my kiddos" (even though their summer classes have finished it is amazing what happens when I write "ice cream" on Facebook) and about half of them liked the backdrop, but none of them like the backdrop "as

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
When I toggle the backdrop ON, why is it black, rather than something like "lightgray" which is more like the Tools and menu portion of the IDE? Black as the default feels like a mistake? ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:58, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: When I toggle the backdrop ON, why is it black, rather than something like "lightgray" which is more like the Tools and menu portion of the IDE? Black as the default feels like a mistake? The backdrop color can be configured as a

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/18/2017 10:59 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: Do your keyboard shortcuts work Mark? You could use Ctrl+M to pop open the message box, and set the backdrop to none, then toggle it on and off via the View menu, then hopefully it should be gone from your preferences. Interesting. That

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
from what I can tell Vorbis works with WebM but then you get into the browser problem. The proprietary browsers appear to not support the OSS media without extra stuff added by the user.. It's also hard to get a decent encoding software... you might have to roll your own. it's the 'all

Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

2017-07-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Forgot a setence. Maybe he is willing to share it. Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > Am 19.07.2017 um 22:18 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > >: > > Zryip created a little

Re: Swipe transitions

2017-07-19 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/19/17 2:10 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: But that would only take care of the swipe of the current card. We'd also need some way to assign the destination card for each swipe direction. What should that syntax look like, and how do we discern swipe events from others on

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I understand your point completely! HOWEVER, why not make it slightly easier to make the backdrop to disappear? Erm . . . how about a button on the far right of the revMenubar stack? Richmond. On 7/19/17 10:06 pm, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM Dr. Hawkins

Swipe transitions

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
The deeper I get into mobile design the more it becomes clear that true swipe transitions are somnething users expect, and by extension something new developers would expect to be supported. Having used LC a long time, I can come up with all sorts of ways of crating groups for this, but

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
That is a rather good suggestion! On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 8:10 PM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I understand your point completely! > > HOWEVER, why not make it slightly easier to make the backdrop to disappear? > > Erm . . . how about a button on

IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

2017-07-19 Thread Todd Fabacher via use-livecode
One of the single largest problems we face is resistance to LiveCode in the corporate is developers. One, they are not eager to learn a new language. But once I show them LiveCode, they see the simple ease and simplicity and become open to the prospect. I even explain it as a way of prototyping

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
The copyright for x264 is GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE, but I don’t know if that means you can encode video for sale. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"Assault" . . . Woof. "The screen seizure indicates a mindset catering to the simplistic, unsophisticated, and non-programming user" Well . . . I'm not sure why favouring a backdrop blocking out a desktop indicates that one is 'simplistic' . . . Until I went to the US in 1993 I had never

[OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Seems most folks use h.264 for encoding video, but being patent-encumbered it requires negotiating a license with MPEGLA for commercial use. I have a batch of files I need to re-encode - what non-patent-encumbered codec could I use that will be supported on all platforms? -- Richard Gaskin

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Are you sure that a license is needed for H.264 playback? That could seriously impact the viability of YouTube or Vimeo, if all users had to pay a license fee. My hope is that the license is just paid by the encoder tool maker. If you’re using Adobe Media Encoder you don’t have to pay a

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Which means every network and independent film-maker is breaking the law... because I guarantee that they're not looking at the EULA when sending off their work for broadcast or theater.I see this every day. Kinda like "don't ask don't tell" if you ask me. And unenforceable. They'd have to

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Surely the most sensible route here is to decide on defaults and see if > people for whom those defaults are relevant have any objections? I'm not > sure it is necessary to be offended on

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/19/2017 10:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: > On 2017-07-19 18:59, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: >>> - set the layer ouf a stack below all other windows (opposite >>> of systemWindow) >> >> It might be useful - although probably not implementable (judging by >> how

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Colin Holgate wrote: > Are you sure that a license is needed for H.264 playback? No, encoding. > My hope is that the license is just paid by the encoder tool maker. Would be nice, but not always so. E.g., Apple's Final Cut "Pro" (which only allows for non-pro use): 15. H.264/AVC

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:32, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: All this talk about the background has me wondering: would it be useful to anyone here if we had a way to: - set the layer of a stack below all other LC stacks (opposite of palette) - set the layer ouf a stack below all other

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
In about 2003 I did exactly that with RunRev 2.2.1, using a Palette as a faux backdrop, but I can neither find that stack nor remember how I did it. The stack might be on the OLD revOnline if there is any way to access that. Richmond. On 7/19/17 7:59 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
+1 > On Jul 19, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode > wrote: > > Uhm . . . why would anyone think that that would be a *good* thing? I > react to my screen being seized as a hostile act. ___ use-livecode

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Me too. Especially when my desktop is once again messy. And that happens quite often. The backdrop function in LC even made me write a little tool which does something similar and layers over the whole desktop to hide the mess. Very useful when i demonstrate something to others on my computer.

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 7/19/17 11:55 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-19 08:56, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Even that is a "load of old Bollo"; I'm sure that a lot of people trying out LiveCode for the first time are going to go "gae quair" when they see their desktop vanish.

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
*Chacun à son gôut mais à ce ,o,ent c'est pas un choix! Je voudrais un digestif. Richmond. * On 7/19/17 1:17 pm, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Me too. Especially when my desktop is once again messy. And that happens quite often. The backdrop function in LC even made me write a

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
As Mark Waddingham expressed, it was only a test. At least it wasn't tested in a GM release. All the fuss about it making LC unusable is a stretch. Matthias gave me an idea, so I made a small stack containing the image which is applied to my desktop as a background, and I saved that to my

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 12:50, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Lumpy custard! Just like your grandmother used to make?* ;) Other people who have commented on this are all "on this list"; otherwise they would have been unable to comment. Indeed - my point was simply that due to a bug which

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Dunno: I get grey. Richmond. On 7/19/17 2:58 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: When I toggle the backdrop ON, why is it black, rather than something like "lightgray" which is more like the Tools and menu portion of the IDE? Black as the default feels like a mistake? ~Roger

What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Admittedly, this was perhaps a slightly riskier test then something like the > handler menu; I’ve been scratching my head of late with Livecode version numbers. They don’t seem to

Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

2017-07-19 Thread Tim Selander via use-livecode
Richard, Have never written a CGI in my life but you got me thinking; a quick Google found me a php script to "print" a folder listing. So now my .lc script on my on-rev serve puts the url of the .php page on the server with the mp3s into a variable -- which gives me the list of file names

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:58 PM Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > How about *offering* to put up the backdrop for the tutorial, rather than > imposing it? > Well, we were acting in direct response to a whole lot of feedback from new users who didn't seem to

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Video codecs [edit ] - *x264 * – H.264/MPEG-4 AVC implementation. x264 is not a

Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

2017-07-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Zryip created a little intellisense plugin some years ago. http://www.aslugontheroad.com/in-progress/9-intellisense-plugin It´s free for users of the Excel Library. Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Simon Smith wrote: > I would stay with h.264 if possible - its popular and supported by > most platforms. Having to trouble shoot video issues on an ongoing > basis is not really fun. But yes - there is a licencing requirement > if its being used commercially - no idea how actively it is

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Stephen Barncard wrote: > Which means every network and independent film-maker is breaking the > law... > because I guarantee that they're not looking at the EULA when > sending off their work for broadcast or theater.I see this every > day. > > Kinda like "don't ask don't tell" if you ask

Re: Swipe transitions

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 7/19/17 2:10 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> But that would only take care of the swipe of the current card. >> We'd also need some way to assign the destination card for each >> swipe direction. >> >> What should that syntax look like, and how do we

Re: Export SVG as PNG?

2017-07-19 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
export snapshot from rect (the rect of widget 1) of widget 1 to file ( specialfolderpath("desktop") & "/test.png") as png The 'of widget 1' part is the important part - that takes the object in isolation rather than snapshotting the background of the card. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:36 PM Dan

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Why worry? When I release a new version of my Devawriter Pro I think of a number, multiply it by 3.3 recurring, subtract 7 and claim it was all the result of a mystical experience, and, so far, no one has complained. With the shining examples of Microsoft . . . as a kid said to me the other

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 7/19/17 7:15 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Microsoft don't count ME or Vista. They were bug test releases that proved to be more buggy than the bugs they were claiming to repair, so that 7,8,9,10 work consecutively from 1,2,3,95 (9-5=4),98 (v4+ (9-8)=5),XP(abs(ascii-x - ascii-P)=24;2+4=6) ;) Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well . . . My Devawriter Pro has an optional faux backdrop stack (it's called "DESKER") with this stackScript: *on**preOpenStack* ** ***put**((item 3 **ofthescreenRect**) + 20) **into**WIDD* ** ***put**((item 4 **ofthescreenRect**) + 20) **into**HITE* **

Swipe transitions

2017-07-19 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
It would be cool if LiveCode could tap into underlying OS animation functions. For example, at WWDC 2017 Apple showed how UI KIT can support interactive and interruptible animations. These are very handy for doing smooth and interactive transitions. LiveCoders are used to building things like

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
It's unlikely that there will be an 8.2.0 release unless they add in the Obj-C/Java stuff into v8. Version numbers have been described in the past. I can't find the post but, as I remember it, it is something like: v8 = Major change to Engine and IDE that would cause current projects to

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
Every version I have, 6.x, 7.x, 8.x, all black, Mac or Windows. Odd thing though, on OS X 10.11.6, versions 8.1.4 and 8.1.5 will not open Preferences. ~Roger On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dunno: I get grey. > >

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
@Roger: Could it be the case that the Preferences stack does open, but somehow it goes offscreen? - Open Prefs - If you don't see the window, type in the msg box: set the loc of stack revpreferencesGUI to the screenloc Best, Panos -- On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Roger Eller via

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 15:54, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Admittedly, this was perhaps a slightly riskier test then something like the handler menu; Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE

Re: Swipe transitions

2017-07-19 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Swipe detection would be useful for other than the whole card too.DG2 is supposed to have that piece.Think of the way you can delete an email on the iPhone.From a detection perspective, it is the same motion.You would need the direction and position to take the correct

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 16:26, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: Every version I have, 6.x, 7.x, 8.x, all black, Mac or Windows. Odd thing though, on OS X 10.11.6, versions 8.1.4 and 8.1.5 will not open Preferences. Have you opened 8.1.6-rc-2? Prior to 8.1.6-rc-2 the default set in the IDE (if it

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Proof of concept: https://www.dropbox.com/s/suhwepaw39tqlp8/Backdropper.livecode.zip?dl=0 Richmond. On 7/19/17 2:55 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-19 13:19, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I've just run 8.1.6 past "my kiddos" (even though their summer

Re: Export SVG as PNG?

2017-07-19 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
If you have a complex svg that needs a browser to display it, you can do this through JavaScript. On LiveCode Share, the SVG- powered images stack does this. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Simon Smith via use-livecode
I would stay with h.264 if possible - its popular and supported by most platforms. Having to trouble shoot video issues on an ongoing basis is not really fun. But yes - there is a licencing requirement if its being used commercially - no idea how actively it is policed. Are the video's going to