Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-17 Thread John Mellor
With X being a completely unmaintainable mess, all new and bugfix development stopped about 2 years ago.  Most disturbing is that for the last 2 years there have been essentially no security fixes as a result.  A couple of distros have done some critical bugfixes to try to keep the dead horse

Re: NVMe sector size ?

2024-01-10 Thread John Mellor
Almost all NVMe drives use 4k sectors.  Its actually hard on the drive to use 512 byte sectors, as when you write a block and sync it, it has to read and then rewrite the rest of the 4k block. That's unnecessary writes, shortening your drive life.  Most Linux platforms will read the natural

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-12-08 12:56 p.m., Tim Evans wrote: Since tine immemorial (I first touched a UNIX system circa 1984), I have used the venerable 'dump' utility to do automated full and incremental backups to an NFS-mounted network storage appliance (NAS). Now, with a brand new laptop, with fresh

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-06 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-12-05 22:59, home user wrote: . . . I almost always use Gnome with X, not wayland.  Even the test I reported in my previous post (in response to Richard) was KDE with X, not wayland.  Should thunderbird-wayland be installed and used by us X users? X is no longer maintained properly,

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

2023-12-05 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-12-05 8:45 p.m., home user wrote: (Fedora 38; home workstation; Thunderbird 115.5.0) In early October, I upgraded from Fedora-37 to Fedora-38.  Since then, I've been consistently experiencing two types of misbehavior in Thunderbird. 1. When I switch e-mail accounts or folders within

Re: multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

2023-09-25 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-09-25 09:39, George N. White III wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 2:34 AM Dave Close wrote: I wrote: > I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode > (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the > startx command. But I

Re: GPT Partition

2023-09-15 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-09-15 2:07 p.m., Peter Boy wrote: Am 15.09.2023 um 17:23 schrieb Bill Cunningham : WHat is the reason Peter behind xfs being used on the server edition and btrfs on the workstation? I pretty much stick with ext3. I don't even use ext4 really. I've never used xfs. It is basically about

Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??

2023-08-21 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-08-21 12:55, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/21/2023 07:03 AM, Chris Adams wrote: This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power certifications

Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

2023-07-30 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-07-30 17:39, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote: Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen since the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or Thunderbird issue. When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size,

Re: stress testing

2023-05-31 Thread John Mellor
stress and stress-ng and the gui versions all do a pretty good job of heating up the cpu, and a marginal job of finding memory issues.  However, the rest of the motherboard and disks get almost nothing. On 2023-05-31 4:51 p.m., Geoffrey Leach wrote: In anticipation of the arrival of a new

Re: [solved] Re: Thunderbird black at first launch with F38

2023-05-04 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-05-04 12:11, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/4/23 05:53, John Mellor wrote: On 2023-05-04 02:01, Frederic Muller wrote: On 04/05/2023 12:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/3/23 21:07, Frederic Muller wrote: Installed F38 about a week ago from scratch (wayland & GNOME). When I launch Thunder

Re: [solved] Re: Thunderbird black at first launch with F38

2023-05-04 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-05-04 02:01, Frederic Muller wrote: On 04/05/2023 12:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/3/23 21:07, Frederic Muller wrote: Installed F38 about a week ago from scratch (wayland & GNOME). When I launch Thunderbird the first time at every session it starts as a black screen except for the title

Re: I have not been able to install F37 on a computer that has RAID1

2023-05-01 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-05-01 1:05 p.m., Peter Boy wrote: Am 01.05.2023 um 18:33 schrieb David Woodyard : the server is what I need to install. OK, o I guess Server will be the only Operating System on the device. And because you ‚see‘ sda and sdb, you don’t have a hardware raid but use a software raid.

Re: software or hardware raid?

2023-03-01 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-03-01 4:37 p.m., Peter Boy wrote: Am 01.03.2023 um 21:45 schrieb John Mellor : BTRFS is massively faster and safer than all other implementations other than perhaps ZFS, is at least partially error compensating, does not demand identical drives, and can be easily converted

Re: software or hardware raid?

2023-03-01 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-03-01 3:01 p.m., Ranjan Maitra wrote: I would like to RAID two of my disks, and I was wondering if the recommendation is to do software or hardware RAID? Don't even consider hardware RAID solutions that became out-of-favour 25 years ago.  You can easily do it with LVM/MDR

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
Comments inline in blue (sorry to any monocolour readers on this list): On 2023-02-24 12:20 p.m., Go Canes wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote: 1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is no longer required, as the boot process has been able

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-02-24 12:46 p.m., GianPiero Puccioni wrote: On 24/02/2023 15:31, John Mellor wrote: Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes anyway. We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora. However, there has been almost nothing done

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote: . . . (snipped) 1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is no longer required, as the boot process has been able to use BTRFS for years now. . . . (snipped) On 2023-02-24 09:38, Bill C wrote

Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes anyway. We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.  However, there has been almost nothing done to take advantage of its capabilities.  This leads to some obvious questions about future work:

Re: Upgraded from 35 to 36, and noticed that VirtualBox wasn't working with 6.0.15, but would with 6.0.14?

2022-12-26 Thread John Mellor
instead of a kvm solution frontended by boxes or virtmanager? -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https

Re: Backup data from Firefox

2022-11-29 Thread John Mellor
On 2022-11-29 09:41, Andreas Fournier wrote: I'm wondering what would be best practice in how to backup the user data from Firefox on a Fedora desktop? I'm thinking mostly about saved logins and bookmarks and how it could be scheduled. Any current version of Firefox has built-in "cloud"

Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for,>,> the old rc.local? - still an issue

2022-07-20 Thread John Mellor
since (d) above will bite you when you least expect it. Just my 3 cents... -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https:

Re: hardware RAID1 NVMe card?

2022-06-24 Thread John Mellor
directly into hundreds of times better reliability numbers.  Best of all, you do not need matching drives or drive sizes to implement RAID-1.  For a long time now, the only reason to run hardware RAID has been underneath back-level versions of Windows or VMware. -- John Mellor

Re: Connecting to printer on Windows 10 System

2022-04-21 Thread John Mellor
my main wifi router. As an aside, the driver for this automatic connection is just plain broken, and can never connect to actually print anything. Deleting the found printer and discovering it again always fixes the problem. -- John Mellor ___ users m

Re: OT: laptop SSD(?) makes screeching sounds

2022-04-15 Thread John Mellor
you should order the failing fan from their parts list, and replace it instead. -- John Mellor On 2022-04-14 23:05, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu Apr14'22 12:22:14PM, Go Canes wrote: From: Go Canes Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:22:14 -0400 To: Community support for Fedora users Reply

Re: ssd keeps dying (OT)

2022-02-24 Thread John Mellor
lly threw the machine out because it was something on the motherboard.  Its cheaper to pick up a refurb machine at Staples or your local computer store than it is to start swapping parts to identify the real problem. -- John Mellor ___ users mail

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-13 Thread John Mellor
, and am still happy with it.  Its now my go-to email client across multiple platforms, even (gasp!) Windows.  Its heavyweight, but very capable. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-13 Thread John Mellor
the headers and not the bodies.  You only download the bodies on mails that you read, so unless you don't get any spam or if you actually read every single message that you get, your bandwidth usage will normally appreciably be lower with IMAP. -- John Mellor

Re: Bad workloads for RAID0?

2022-02-10 Thread John Mellor
ild times with a controller are also generally so bad that you have excellent odds that you will probably experience a second drive failure while rebuilding with the drive sizes sold today. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorap

Re: why are / and /home the same filesystem?

2022-02-07 Thread John Mellor
if you define it as btrfs. Maybe its time to ask the stupid question: Why is not /var in its own subvolume, and why does it not have a quota by default?  That would almost trivially resolve the issue of runaway logs making the system unusable. -- John Mellor

Re: Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?

2022-02-04 Thread John Mellor
ols that are built to do this right. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/proje

Re: F35 - zram on auto install?

2022-01-16 Thread John Mellor
is ~10x faster than SSD and 100x faster than spinning disk.  Unless your system is so ancient and CPU-constrained that you are unable to afford the relatively low compression costs, making use of all available RAM at all times seems like a better move than stopping ZRAM swap. -- John Mellor

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread John Mellor
hogging all that memory. Do a top and sort by RSS and see what the real problem app is. -- John Mellor On 2022-01-11 12:30 p.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote: The specs for my Lenovo x140e is 8GB, which I have and it seems to be not enough. $ free    total    used    free

Re: Problems with disk? apps failed, then reboot failed. Needed fsck

2021-12-26 Thread John Mellor
instead of the default download. With fast networks today, it makes little sense to download every email. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-29 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-11-29 10:44 a.m., Fulko Hew wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:01 AM Bob Marcan wrote: Why we just don't buy any hardware which have Nvidia? If they ignore us, we can do the same. What is wrong with AMD video, except it works out of the box? :-) Because there is no CUDA

Re: Startup recovery

2021-10-22 Thread John Mellor
, except more elegantly.  One thing that btrfs does NOT do only on Fedora at this time is fs encryption, which is super useful on a laptop. I'm unsure why Fedora is still using the clunky old encryption layer mechanism instead of the builtin one. -- John Mellor

Re: Startup recovery

2021-10-22 Thread John Mellor
move at this point. -- John Mellor On 2021-10-22 07:58, Roger Heflin wrote: run "systemd-analyze critical-chain home.mount"   and it will show you the requirements. I would suspect something going wrong with the activation of the home lv. On boot up do a "lvs" post that in

Re: Does the program llvm break all the hardware or only some of it ?

2021-10-18 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-10-18 6:12 p.m., Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 14:50 -0400, John Mellor wrote: Llvm is a compiler suite, and has nothing to do with VMs.  This does not make sense on multiple levels. I was about to say the same thing, but: $ dnf info llvm ... Summary : The Low

Re: Does the program llvm break all the hardware or only some of it ?

2021-10-18 Thread John Mellor
ipts" got to do with Fedora crashing?  It sounds like you corrupted your machine or broke some hardware more than anything else. Llvm is a compiler suite, and has nothing to do with VMs.  This does not make sense on multiple levels. -- John Mellor __

Re: Does the program llvm break all the hardware or only some of it ?

2021-10-16 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-10-16 12:03 p.m., Dorian ROSSE wrote: I had installed llvm ask by the program clamav finaly i have a question : Does the program llvm break all the hardware or only some of it ? ???   Llvm is a compiler suite.  How does that break any of your hardware?

Re: NVMe Health check?

2021-10-13 Thread John Mellor
and tests (including benchmarking the drive).  The work fine on SSDs.  Unless your drive is highly non-standard, that should do the same thing as the Samsung app. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: TPM Module

2021-09-13 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-09-13 5:55 p.m., ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 9/13/21 6:31 AM, John Mellor wrote: The reaction is so rare that "Everyone around these parts knows of someone" is ridiculously impossible. So I guess the customs that have called me and told me they were in the hospital fo

Re: TPM Module

2021-09-13 Thread John Mellor
only read selective extreme newsgroups or are members of extremist groups spreadinig this Russian disinformation. "Is that true, or did you hear it on Fox News?" -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread John Mellor
you are attempting, make the machines diskless and put everything in a RAMdisk for a big reliability improvement and a small power and cost reduction. That seems like a much better way to do this. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- us

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread John Mellor
You do not need to do anything fancy at all with a Fedora USB install media.  Fedora comes with both UEFI and legacy boot mechanisms, so it just works on all machines.  Instead, you have a BIOS setting problem, that is preventing you from seeing the USB key.  Fix that, and everything should

Re: umask for root

2021-08-24 Thread John Mellor
ave to set a root password just for this scenario in order to recover your machine. Hopefully this little mess gets fixed in the upcoming F35 release. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Extreme startup delay on F34

2021-08-15 Thread John Mellor
addresses. The newer ACPI firmware is no longer providing bogus addresses, and the problem has gone away -- something for the kernel people to think about and identify the faulty/missing checks. I'm still waiting and watching, but the machine is now highl

Re: scanner no longer detected?

2021-08-03 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-08-02 6:50 p.m., Cameron Simpson wrote: On 02Aug2021 09:04, John Mellor wrote: On 2021-08-01 7:08 p.m., Cameron Simpson wrote: We've got a few unmanaged netgear switches here and have had some weirdness ourselves. I have lossely discovered that having my Mac on both ethernet and wifi

Re: scanner no longer detected?

2021-08-02 Thread John Mellor
on two interfaces is not legal, so you should expect to break something on any router or machine that I can think of.  If it works, then that router is broken. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Expired Fedora Webpage Cert?

2021-07-28 Thread John Mellor
Is it just me, or is the web page cert expired this morning at https://askbot.fedoraproject.org/ ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Extreme startup delay on F34

2021-07-28 Thread John Mellor
r.  It would probably be better to work like ZFS and remount it using your nifty "usebackuproot" option, and get the machine up so that you can figure out what was lost instead of keeping it unusable. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list --

Re: Extreme startup delay on F34

2021-07-27 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-07-27 5:35 p.m., old sixpack13 wrote: ... is your GPU from intel ? if so: - I get it too, sometimes while browsing with FF. - Crtl+Alt+F3 to get a console (?) and do dmesg => ...GPU Crash dump ... GPU hang... +++ EDIT +++ I should have read the first thread again: it's an Intel GPU.

Re: Extreme startup delay on F34

2021-07-27 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-07-27 9:08 a.m., old sixpack13 wrote: ping Chris Murphy, John Mellor is this theme solved and if so, how I ran the extended built-in BIOS diagnostics on this Lenovo P300 machine again last week for half a day, and no faults were found. I also ran the GTKstresstest

Re: Extreme startup delay on F34

2021-07-18 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-07-17 1:18 p.m., Joe Zeff wrote: On 7/17/21 8:35 AM, John Mellor wrote: What's wrong here?  This is a fully up-to-date and stock F34 machine with a good i5 processor, lots of RAM and a fast SSD, with a very long and inexplicable time delay during boot.  It appears to be idle for 2

Extreme startup delay on F34

2021-07-17 Thread John Mellor
What's wrong here?  This is a fully up-to-date and stock F34 machine with a good i5 processor, lots of RAM and a fast SSD, with a very long and inexplicable time delay during boot.  It appears to be idle for 2 minutes during every startup, with no known cause.  This machine used to boot in 8

Re: Modem WiFi

2021-07-10 Thread John Mellor
password has been set on the remote machine. Enter it. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en

Re: scilab

2021-06-27 Thread John Mellor
t I should do That sounds like /usr/lib64/gtk-3.0/modules/libpk-gtk-module.so is not in LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Add it on the command line and run scilab from command line with it added.  Let's see if that resolves the issue. -- John Mellor ___ users ma

Re: issue before update

2021-06-06 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-06-05 6:13 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote: I planed to update a multiboot machine (all fedora 32) . . . You do realize that F32 is past its EOL date and is unsupported now, right? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

How do I recover from BTRFS issues?

2021-05-31 Thread John Mellor
loss.  I did an offline btrfs check on my F33 machine that left the machine unbootable, so its probably not an option either.  I'm stuck at this point.  Should I just stop using the default BTRFS filesystem and go back to ext4? Help appreciated! -- John Mellor

Re: Strange VPN behaviour

2021-05-19 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-05-19 5:52 p.m., Anca, Tibor wrote: I'm using Fedora 34. For some services I need to connect to my corporate VPN (Cysco). I use openconnect with NetworkManager, which connects fine to the vpn server. But there is a weird problem and I can not figure out, where to change something. If I

Re: Honest Questions -- Trying to decide on version of linux/os

2021-05-19 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-05-19 12:23 p.m., Dave Ihnat wrote: On 19 May at 11:16, Terry Polzin wrote: Actually you may be better off with CENTOS for stability. Except Redhat has dropped CentOS. They announced it in December; lessee...here's an article:

Re: automatic updates corrupting grub loader

2021-05-09 Thread John Mellor
in that crud that can mess up your machine. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code

Fedora 34 Works on a T500

2021-04-01 Thread John Mellor
Kudos to the Fedora 34 and Gnome teams!!! My Lenovo Thinkpad T500 runs Linux very well.  Its a beat-up, 12-year-old, well-equipped dual-core laptop with 8GB ram, a Core2 Duo cpu with an AMD Rv635 gpu.  Its a good machine for meetings, as it is quite rugged and mostly survives being dropped,

Re: btrfs system slow down with 100GB file

2021-03-24 Thread John Mellor
With Fedora being intended as a desktop platform, why are these settings not the default? The highest priority for a desktop system is to keep the user experience flowing smoothly, not to maximize disk i/o rates. Can this be fixed in time for F34?  Do we need a bug report? On 3/23/21 2:26

Re: USB SSD disk speed question

2021-03-02 Thread John Mellor
that your use of BTRFS or ZFS will at least prevent disk corruption in this situation. Note that the drive cost is not related to the answer, as e.g. expensive Samsung EVO drives are known to have this issue. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing lis

Re: Btrfs performance

2021-02-15 Thread John Mellor
the extents problem.Single-threading the logrotate seems like a good idea as well. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https

Re: [F31] Cannot boot from time to time due to systemd-cryptsetup

2021-01-15 Thread John Mellor
and reliable.  Manual rebooting seems to get past this. It feels like something is incorrectly asynch in the update mechanism that leaves /boot in a weird state.  Maybe with different machine timing, your bug has the same root cause... -- John Mellor

Re: Problems with conflicts on today's updates (f33)

2021-01-08 Thread John Mellor
For interests sake, how come the new packages were promoted and their unpromoted dependencies were not?  Isn't that a serious promotion mechanism failure? Just asking, as a build/release practitioner with 45 years of release experience. On 2021-01-08 4:57 p.m., linux guy wrote: I've got

Re: btrfs RAID 5?

2021-01-05 Thread John Mellor
Is there a Fedora doc coming out with all this btrfs minutia? Its great stuff, but without the doc its also a college-level course in how to do things the right way.  In the heat of the moment, this missing doc would be ultra-handy. On 2021-01-05 1:30 p.m., Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Jan

Re: Do you disable IPV6? - Fedora Workstation

2020-12-29 Thread John Mellor
addresses upstream, giving you the NAT-like isolation that you desire. -- John Mellor On 2020-12-29 8:53 a.m., Neal Becker wrote: Let me say up front I'm not very knowledgeable about  v6 yet.  One reason I don't want to enable it is the exact flip side of the address scarcity of v4.  Because

Re: Do you disable IPV6? - Fedora Workstation

2020-12-29 Thread John Mellor
-scanning attempts/day, and now I go weeks without an intrusion-detection hit.  I don't think the bad guys have figured out how to attack IPv6 addresses yet. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Use iSCSI for remote /home?

2020-12-25 Thread John Mellor
t they are the same for the user(s) that you want to have common on the two machines. 3. The selinux policy for the home disk had better be pretty much the same for the two machines.  Any differences between the capabilities on disk will produce strange blocking behaviour

Re: Fedora 33 latency

2020-12-07 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-12-06 9:21 p.m., Earl Ramirez wrote: After performing a few clean install I continue to experience poor read . Initially I installed with BTRFS with RAID1 and after a few minutes I started experiencing delays when I use any application and try to open an existing file. For example, if I

Re: bugzilla.gnome.org is closing

2020-11-14 Thread John Mellor
Gnome bugzilla is absolutely useless, as nobody is doing any bugfixes.  I don't think that a single one of my bugs has been resolved ever since Fedora started using Gnome.  Its a very strong indication of a broken system, and probably a very broken development organization. So, maybe moving

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-11-01 Thread John Mellor
isk corruption (bit rot), both ZFS and BTRFS will also correct it on the next read of that data if you are running the filesystem in one of the RAID-z configurations (multiple copies stored), or upon running a filesystem integrity check. -- John Mellor ___ us

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-15 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-10-14 3:18 p.m., Andrew J. Caines wrote: Anyone have a favorite GUI that will give me accurate CPU usage? Use gkrellm.  Its in the repo, small, stable and accurate.  It can also give you dynamic network, disk, fan and temp readouts for everything, including your GPU.  Best of all, it

Re: install package from a list

2020-07-03 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-07-03 7:18 a.m., Patrick Dupre wrote: I wish to install a list of packages from a list. What is the best option? Assuming that you are working from CLI, how about: $ sudo xargs dnf install https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines:

Re: Installing new SSD drive

2020-06-07 Thread John Mellor
the machine and you.  Or is the machine so overloaded that you need more than max RAM? -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-05-14 8:08 a.m., Richard Hughes wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 13:28, John Mellor wrote: That just stumps me. How can Vim possibly be an update requiring a system reboot? All package updates are scheduled for offline installation. There's no safe way to update packages at runtime

Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-13 Thread John Mellor
tem reboot? So, is there a problem in the dependencies lists of the packages, or is it a bug in the Gnome updater app? -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-12 Thread John Mellor
, and therefore have the kernel upgrade bug. -- John Mellor On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:41 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/12/20 5:15 AM, John Mellor wrote: > > On 2020-05-09 5:53 p.m., Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 2020-05-09 21:01, John Mellor wrote: > >>> Now I need to wait for th

Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-12 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-05-09 5:53 p.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-09 21:01, John Mellor wrote: Now I need to wait for the next kernel upgrade, and see if that change fixes my  crash/panic issue. Of course you could boot to the previous kernel, remove the latest one, reboot again to the previous kernel

Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-09 Thread John Mellor
have a journal, after the umount+above tune2fs+remount the data=ordered will be gone. On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:53 AM John Mellor wrote: Interesting! This machine does reboot in about 5secs and the other machines take longer, so it makes sense. My /boot is mounted just like /home

Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-08 Thread John Mellor
tune2fs+remount the data=ordered will be gone. Interesting. I have a box which have been running for years with /dev/sdb1 /boot ext4 rw,seclabel,noatime,barrier=1,stripe=32,data=ordered,discard 0 0 and so far never borked on me. On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:53 AM John Mellor wrote

Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-08 Thread John Mellor
a reliable solution.There were some detailed posts on this several years ago with reliable commenters confirming the behavior. I have also personally seen the issue a number of times and mount /boot and/or fscking corrects it (replays journal). On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 8:52 AM John Mellor wrote:

Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-08 Thread John Mellor
around in the fedora bugs, but not knowing what to look for, I'm basically blind.  Its a pretty serious bug, especially if the machine is remote.  Does anyone have a way out of this? -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users

Re: fc25 --> fc31

2020-04-16 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-04-15 7:52 p.m., Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/15/20 4:40 PM, John Mellor wrote:   On 2020-04-15 16:13, José Abílio Matos wrote:  > . . .  > The only profile he has it Firefox.  I do not think he even has any docs or pictures, but I will check. Firefox can be tricky to restore, as i

Re: fc25 --> fc31

2020-04-15 Thread John Mellor
stored to a thumbdrive. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guid

Re: New Laptop - Fedora compatibility

2020-03-30 Thread John Mellor
The fingerprint reader is probably useless, as the proprietary library is only developed for Windows. Support in Linux is very poor. I'm not sure why you want TPM, as its another insecurity pathway designed by Intel. `nuff said, just disable it. How much does this beast weigh? I'd bet it weighs

VideoConference Package?

2020-03-30 Thread John Mellor
In this extended period of Covid-19 isolation, is there a videoconference package available? Hosted systems like Zoom are not opensource, do not use a browser as a client, feed connection data to Facebook, only allow 2 participants for free, and not available for a local install. I thought

Re: laptop thoughts/suggestions

2020-03-27 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-03-26 3:26 p.m., bruce wrote: Hi. thinking of a new laptop base specs at least 4 core at least 8-12G with ability to expand to 16/32 1TB and SSD would be ok bluetooth 17" usb/hdmi of course i'd prefer new, as opposed to used and of course as cheap as possible thoughts/comments

Re: rescue mode needs rescuing!

2020-03-19 Thread John Mellor
slots are probably getting too hot. If this is a custom build as stated, are you using a big enough cooler, or one for a less-hungry processor? -- John Mellor On 2020-03-19 7:53 a.m., George N. White III wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 00:58, home user <mailto:mattis...@comcast.net>&

Re: rescue mode needs rescuing!

2020-03-18 Thread John Mellor
the Arctic Silver interface goop? -- John Mellor On 2020-03-17 4:13 p.m., home user wrote: (On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 06:17, George wrote) > You need to rule out hardware. Impossible. Good testing can make a really good case that it's not the hardware (nor the driver). Complete testing, 100% rul

Re: rescue mode needs rescuing!

2020-03-14 Thread John Mellor
"home user" asked: > How do I rescue the rescue mode? I think the root cause of the problem is that you have upgraded multiple times, and somewhere along the way (maybe around the F25 timeframe), the management of the rescue image and its grub entry got lost by the release and testing teams, and

Failed Delta RPMs observed in repo

2020-02-09 Thread John Mellor
Question for the repo managers, Why do I sometimes see invalid checksums for drpm downloads? E.g: This excerpt from the update this morning: /var/cache/dnf/updates-7fc4c739b3909d9f/packages/selinux-policy-targeted-3.14.4-46.fc31_3.14.4-47.fc31.noarch.drpm: md5 mismatch of resultSome

Re: usb thermometer?

2020-01-20 Thread John Mellor
. Of course, this will not work if you're trying to  measure the oven or outside temperature for instance. -- John Mellor ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: Is This Windows?.....

2020-01-01 Thread John Mellor
On 2019-12-30 5:52 p.m., Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 8:02 AM John Mellor wrote: I've complained about this issue before. Its a defective design decision made by the Gnome people, some of whom I suspect to be ex-Windows people trying to sabotage the desktop;^0 https

Re: Is This Windows?.....

2019-12-30 Thread John Mellor
On 2019-12-30 12:57 p.m., Richard Hughes wrote: . . . You're hilarious, and you you clearly don't actually understand how rpm deployment works, UXIX locking semantics, or modern Linux service or application design. Please self moderate your opinions in the future. Look who is being offensive. 

Re: Is This Windows?.....

2019-12-30 Thread John Mellor
decision to put the update code in the boot sequence instead of just doing the simpler and easier code in the update app. -- John Mellor On 2019-12-29 3:50 p.m., Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: kI'm just gonna ask this: Why is it now that when I get notifications for updates I'm being

Re: Windows??.....

2019-12-09 Thread John Mellor
situation.  And even then, unless its the kernel, it should require a user logout/login instead of a reboot. The bogus Gnome requirement to reboot is IMHO based upon faulty thinking, and needs to be corrected. -- John Mellor, Build/Release Engineer __

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