Re: Issues with Yahoo/AOL emails and RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO

2018-07-31 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 29/07/18 19:21, RW wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:00:56 +0100 Dominic Raferd wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 at 18:33, RW wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:28:08 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: On Sunday 29 July 2018 at 12:17:07, Sebastian Arcus wrote yet another email that's guaranteed to fail

Re: Issues with Yahoo/AOL emails and RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO

2018-07-29 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 29/07/18 19:00, Dominic Raferd wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 at 18:33, RW <mailto:rwmailli...@googlemail.com>> wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:28:08 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 29 July 2018 at 12:17:07, Sebastian Arcus wrote yet another > email th

Re: Issues with Yahoo/AOL emails and RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO

2018-07-29 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 29/07/18 14:36, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Sunday 29 July 2018 at 12:17:07, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I've been having a number of emails recently from Yahoo and AOL senders hitting the RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO rule. I'm trying to understand what is going on: 1. First off, the rule hits

Re: Issues with Yahoo/AOL emails and RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO

2018-07-29 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 29/07/18 11:28, Antony Stone wrote: On Sunday 29 July 2018 at 12:17:07, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I've been having a number of emails recently from Yahoo and AOL senders hitting the RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO rule. I'm trying to understand what is going on: 1. First off, the rule hits on the EHLO

Issues with Yahoo/AOL emails and RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO

2018-07-29 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I've been having a number of emails recently from Yahoo and AOL senders hitting the RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO rule. I'm trying to understand what is going on: 1. First off, the rule hits on the EHLO line - which means the it is an authenticated SMTP submission. Is the correct HELO format important

Re: SPF_HELO_FAIL triggers on domain with valid SPF record and HELO settings

2018-06-11 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 11/06/18 08:56, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I am running SA 4.0.0-r1823176 on Perl 5.26.2. On a number of domains I administer, outbound mail triggers the SPF_HELO_FAIL rule - but the regular SPF check passes. I am struggling to see why this is happening, as the HELO name is set to the same

Re: SPF_HELO_FAIL triggers on domain with valid SPF record and HELO settings

2018-06-11 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 11/06/18 10:20, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.06.2018 um 10:57 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: On 11/06/18 09:39, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 11.06.18 08:56, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I am running SA 4.0.0-r1823176 on Perl 5.26.2. On a number of domains I administer, outbound mail triggers

Re: SPF_HELO_FAIL triggers on domain with valid SPF record and HELO settings

2018-06-11 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 11/06/18 09:39, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 11.06.18 08:56, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I am running SA 4.0.0-r1823176 on Perl 5.26.2. On a number of domains I administer, outbound mail triggers the SPF_HELO_FAIL rule - but the regular SPF check passes. I am struggling to see why

SPF_HELO_FAIL triggers on domain with valid SPF record and HELO settings

2018-06-11 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I am running SA 4.0.0-r1823176 on Perl 5.26.2. On a number of domains I administer, outbound mail triggers the SPF_HELO_FAIL rule - but the regular SPF check passes. I am struggling to see why this is happening, as the HELO name is set to the same value as the name of the server/dns name, it

Re: FP with URI_TRY_3LD on get.adobe.com

2018-04-29 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 27/04/18 16:22, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2018, Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 27/04/18 10:49, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I am getting some FP's with URI_TRY_3LD hitting the url get.adobe.com in the body of emails: Apr 27 10:45:39.330 [32173] dbg: rules: ran uri rule URI_TRY_3LD

Re: FP with URI_TRY_3LD on get.adobe.com

2018-04-29 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 27/04/18 16:19, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2018, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I am getting some FP's with URI_TRY_3LD hitting the url get.adobe.com in the body of emails: Apr 27 10:45:39.330 [32173] dbg: rules: ran uri rule URI_TRY_3LD ==> got hit: "http://get.adobe.com;

Re: FP with URI_TRY_3LD on get.adobe.com

2018-04-27 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 27/04/18 10:49, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I am getting some FP's with URI_TRY_3LD hitting the url get.adobe.com in the body of emails: Apr 27 10:45:39.330 [32173] dbg: rules: ran uri rule URI_TRY_3LD ==> got hit: "http://get.adobe.com; Would it be possible to add some e

FP with URI_TRY_3LD on get.adobe.com

2018-04-27 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I am getting some FP's with URI_TRY_3LD hitting the url get.adobe.com in the body of emails: Apr 27 10:45:39.330 [32173] dbg: rules: ran uri rule URI_TRY_3LD ==> got hit: "http://get.adobe.com; Would it be possible to add some exception to this rule - as many legitimate emails

Re: URI_TRY_3LD fp's with QuickBooks Intuit emails

2018-04-13 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 13/04/18 16:39, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Giovanni Bechis wrote: On 04/13/18 09:06, Sebastian Arcus wrote: But when it hits, it still adds 2.0 to the score (and I haven't customized

Re: URI_TRY_3LD fp's with QuickBooks Intuit emails

2018-04-13 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 13/04/18 11:36, Giovanni Bechis wrote: On 04/13/18 09:06, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Hello all. I am getting some fp's with emails from QuickBooks / Intuit with the above rule: Apr 13 08:00:30.853 [5768] dbg: rules: ran uri rule URI_TRY_3LD ==> got hit: "https://myturbotax.in

URI_TRY_3LD fp's with QuickBooks Intuit emails

2018-04-13 Thread Sebastian Arcus
Hello all. I am getting some fp's with emails from QuickBooks / Intuit with the above rule: Apr 13 08:00:30.853 [5768] dbg: rules: ran uri rule URI_TRY_3LD ==> got hit: "https://myturbotax.intuit.com; On a slightly different note, and mainly for my curiosity to understand SA rules

[OT] Re: Check for valid MX of sender and rspamd testing

2018-04-10 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 10/04/18 08:41, Daniele Duca wrote: On 09/04/2018 20:40, Sebastian Arcus wrote: This might not really answer your question, but I've had really good results leaving all this to the MTA (Exim in my case). I actually go for the whole hog full callout verification - checking with the MX

Re: Check for valid MX of sender and rspamd testing

2018-04-09 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 09/04/18 15:24, David Jones wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows of an SA plugin or another method to determine if the envelope-from domain has a valid MX record that is listening on TCP port 25.  I don't think it would be a major scorer but it could be useful in meta rules. This might

Re: MSGID_SPAM_CAPS fp's hitting messages from The Pension Regulator in UK

2018-04-09 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 08/04/18 13:41, David Jones wrote: On 04/07/2018 10:42 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I'm not entirely sure what is the cause of this - notification emails from The Pension Regulator in UK (a government body overseeing pensions) have the destination email in upper case as part of the Message

Re: MSGID_SPAM_CAPS fp's hitting messages from The Pension Regulator in UK

2018-04-08 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 07/04/18 21:20, Bill Cole wrote: On 7 Apr 2018, at 11:42 (-0400), Sebastian Arcus wrote: Do the standards really require a message id to be in all lower case? Of course not, and that's also not an accurate description of MSGID_SPAM_CAPS. A small minority of rules in SA are based

Re: MSGID_SPAM_CAPS fp's hitting messages from The Pension Regulator in UK

2018-04-08 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 07/04/18 17:22, Antony Stone wrote: On Saturday 07 April 2018 at 18:10:18, Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 07/04/18 16:52, Reindl Harald wrote something. Thank you for answering, but really, in effect you haven't answered at all my question. And the way I customise the scores are based

Re: MSGID_SPAM_CAPS fp's hitting messages from The Pension Regulator in UK

2018-04-08 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 07/04/18 17:14, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: And the way I customise the scores are based on the type of emails received at this particular site. It might seem "idiotic" to you, but there are reasons for those scores. Not everyone receive

Re: MSGID_SPAM_CAPS fp's hitting messages from The Pension Regulator in UK

2018-04-07 Thread Sebastian Arcus
seem "idiotic" to you, but there are reasons for those scores. Not everyone receives the same mix of email - so it isn't constructive to start calling other people's scoring "idiotic" just because they are not the same as your own or the defaults. Am 07.04.2018 um 17:42 sch

MSGID_SPAM_CAPS fp's hitting messages from The Pension Regulator in UK

2018-04-07 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I'm not entirely sure what is the cause of this - notification emails from The Pension Regulator in UK (a government body overseeing pensions) have the destination email in upper case as part of the Message-ID. I don't know if the user has input their email address in caps when creating the

Re: FUZZY_XPILL FP hitting all Travelodge emails

2018-04-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 02/04/18 14:58, RW wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 08:26:27 -0500 David Jones wrote: On 04/02/2018 07:18 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Thank you - one example here: https://pastebin.com/UGStfCys It found "xon, OX" in "Aylesbury Road, Thame, Oxon, OX9 3AT" It's an aggres

Re: FUZZY_XPILL FP hitting all Travelodge emails

2018-04-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 02/04/18 14:26, David Jones wrote: On 04/02/2018 07:18 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Thank you - one example here: https://pastebin.com/UGStfCys On 02/04/18 13:10, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Pastebin a sample(s). On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 08:06 Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk <mailt

Re: FUZZY_XPILL FP hitting all Travelodge emails

2018-04-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 02/04/18 13:35, Pedro David Marco wrote: Sebastian, can you run spamassassin -D -t &1 | grep got | grep FUZZY_XPILL and post the result, please? Hi Pedro. Please find the output below: Apr 2 15:45:59.961 [6928] dbg: rules: ran body rule FUZZY_XPILL ==> got hit: "xon, OX"

Re: FUZZY_XPILL FP hitting all Travelodge emails

2018-04-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
Thank you - one example here: https://pastebin.com/UGStfCys On 02/04/18 13:10, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Pastebin a sample(s). On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 08:06 Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk <mailto:s.ar...@open-t.co.uk>> wrote: I have a client which handles a lot of ho

FUZZY_XPILL FP hitting all Travelodge emails

2018-04-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I have a client which handles a lot of hotel bookings as part of their work - and all hotel booking confirmations coming from Travelodge (a UK hotel chain) hit FUZZY_XPILL. I've tried looking at the regex of the rule, but can't quite get my head around what it is supposed to do, and can't

Re: BODY custom rule not working if text and html parts are different?

2018-04-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 01/04/18 19:18, John Hardin wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2018, John Hardin wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2018, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 01.04.18 05:47, Pedro David Marco wrote: This is a problem i see oftenly... what if the URL is only in the TEXT part  and not in the HTML?  many email

Re: BODY custom rule not working if text and html parts are different?

2018-04-01 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 01/04/18 07:10, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 01.04.18 05:47, Pedro David Marco wrote: This is a problem i see oftenly... what if the URL is only in the TEXT part  and not in the HTML?  many email aplications show those URLs as clickable as if they were valid HTML HREFs when they are

Re: BODY custom rule not working if text and html parts are different?

2018-03-31 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 31/03/18 22:39, John Hardin wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2018, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have a really simple rule looking for custom text string contained in spam urls in the body of the email, like so: body  SHORT_BITCOIN_DATING    /specific_string_here/i score SHORT_BITCOIN_DATING

BODY custom rule not working if text and html parts are different?

2018-03-31 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I have a really simple rule looking for custom text string contained in spam urls in the body of the email, like so: body SHORT_BITCOIN_DATING/specific_string_here/i score SHORT_BITCOIN_DATING3.0 describe SHORT_BITCOIN_DATINGBody URL signature of spam I just realised that

Re: T_DKIM_INVALID false positives with Gmail

2018-03-19 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 19/03/18 15:53, Bill Cole wrote: On 19 Mar 2018, at 11:29, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I've been seeing a number of false positives recently from T_DKIM_INVALID with Gmail emails. Are some Gmail servers misconfigured, or could something be going on at my end? The DKIM record which is flagged

T_DKIM_INVALID false positives with Gmail

2018-03-19 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I've been seeing a number of false positives recently from T_DKIM_INVALID with Gmail emails. Are some Gmail servers misconfigured, or could something be going on at my end? The DKIM record which is flagged as invalid is below: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;

Re: Extremely persistent sex/make money spam with very little text in the body

2018-03-07 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 07/03/18 11:25, Leandro wrote: 2018-03-07 5:52 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk <mailto:s.ar...@open-t.co.uk>>: 6. The links they include in the body of the email are almost never flagged up either by Clam or Spamassassin - and they point to a diff

Re: Extremely persistent sex/make money spam with very little text in the body

2018-03-07 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 07/03/18 09:08, Daniele Duca wrote: On 07/03/2018 09:52, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have this one email account receiving, for more than a year, a very specific type of spam which I find very difficult to block: 1. The messages are all kept very short, generally below 20 words - I assume

Extremely persistent sex/make money spam with very little text in the body

2018-03-07 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I have this one email account receiving, for more than a year, a very specific type of spam which I find very difficult to block: 1. The messages are all kept very short, generally below 20 words - I assume so that Bayes is less efficient at classifying them? 2. Although they are all

Re: IADB whitelist - again

2018-03-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 01/03/18 19:50, David Jones wrote: On 03/01/2018 12:29 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I know I have brought up this issue on this list before, and sorry for the persistence, but having 7 different rules adding scores for the IADB whitelist still seems either ridiculous, or outright suspect

Re: IADB whitelist - again

2018-03-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 01/03/18 19:04, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I know I have brought up this issue on this list before, and sorry for the persistence, but having 7 different rules adding scores for the IADB whitelist still seems either ridiculous, or outright suspect

IADB whitelist - again

2018-03-01 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I know I have brought up this issue on this list before, and sorry for the persistence, but having 7 different rules adding scores for the IADB whitelist still seems either ridiculous, or outright suspect: -0.2 RCVD_IN_IADB_RDNS RBL: IADB: Sender has reverse DNS record

Re: Spamassassin DNS problems

2018-01-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Just a follow-up and clarification on this issue - after more testing, it seems that it was the Spamassassin version which was the problem. I have had to upgrade SA on 7 servers running 3.4.1 on Slackware - as the dns rbl's weren't working on any of them. The only server I

Re: IADB whitelist

2017-12-26 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 25/12/17 23:57, Bill Cole wrote: On 25 Dec 2017, at 3:28 (-0500), Sebastian Arcus wrote: Also, any idea why are there 6 different rules associated with this particular whitelist? IADB has many independent return codes that each have distinct meaning. See http://www.isipp.com/email

Re: IADB whitelist

2017-12-25 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 25/12/17 10:45, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.12.2017 um 09:28 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: On 23/12/17 10:01, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: The 1st step is that a representaive of the rbl asks us to consider for inclusion. Thank you. If enough people receive spam sanctioned by a particular

Re: IADB whitelist

2017-12-25 Thread Sebastian Arcus
idea why are there 6 different rules associated with this particular whitelist? Regards, KAM On December 23, 2017 3:03:26 AM EST, Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk> wrote: What is the process of including whitelists in SA default configs? It is not the first time I see

IADB whitelist

2017-12-23 Thread Sebastian Arcus
What is the process of including whitelists in SA default configs? It is not the first time I see pretty obvious mailing list spam which has quite high minus scores from 2-3 whitelists included in SA: -1.5 RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN RBL: IADB: All mailing list mail is opt-in

Re: HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* generating too many FP's

2017-12-05 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 02/12/17 18:45, David Jones wrote: On 12/02/2017 11:22 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 02/12/17 13:06, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12/01/2017 11:17 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: -0.2 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2  RBL: Average reputation (+2) [212.227.126.131 listed

Re: HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* generating too many FP's

2017-12-02 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 02/12/17 13:06, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12/01/2017 11:17 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: -0.2 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2  RBL: Average reputation (+2) [212.227.126.131 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.4 MIME_HTML_MOSTLY   BODY: Multipart message mostly text

Re: HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* generating too many FP's

2017-12-01 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 01/12/17 10:54, Axb wrote: On 12/01/2017 11:17 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 30/11/17 12:45, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 28.11.17 19:39, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I'm having more and more problems with the HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* set of rules recently generating false positives. Plenty

Re: HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* generating too many FP's

2017-12-01 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 30/11/17 12:45, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 28.11.17 19:39, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I'm having more and more problems with the HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* set of rules recently generating false positives. Plenty of business emails will include a logo at the bottom - and not everybody

HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* generating too many FP's

2017-11-28 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I'm having more and more problems with the HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_* set of rules recently generating false positives. Plenty of business emails will include a logo at the bottom - and not everybody is a graphics expert to make their logo a tiny optimised gif or png - so some of these are slightly

Re: The rise of highly targeted spam emails

2017-11-16 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 16/11/17 12:16, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Thu, 2017-11-16 at 09:15 +, Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 15/11/17 18:11, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 14:44 +, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I initially decided that an archive was A Good Thing to have, simply because retrieving

Re: The rise of highly targeted spam emails

2017-11-16 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 15/11/17 18:11, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 14:44 +, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I initially decided that an archive was A Good Thing to have, simply because retrieving mail from it should be a lot faster than searching through huge mail folders. This turned out

Re: The rise of highly targeted spam emails

2017-11-16 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 15/11/17 15:16, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.11.2017 um 15:47 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: On 15/11/17 09:56, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.11.2017 um 09:41 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: I can't really train the bayesian filter on these emails, as it would start to affect ham emails classification

Re: The rise of highly targeted spam emails

2017-11-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 15/11/17 09:56, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.11.2017 um 09:41 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: I can't really train the bayesian filter on these emails, as it would start to affect ham emails classification this is a unproven claim! we have here phishings in bayes which are classified

Re: The rise of highly targeted spam emails

2017-11-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 15/11/17 09:55, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 08:41 +, Sebastian Arcus wrote: The emails often contain links to various popular cloud platforms - such as SharePoint, DropBox etc. Most of the emails come from clean domains, or from large webmail providers. I'd say

The rise of highly targeted spam emails

2017-11-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I have noticed in the last half a year or so the rise in much more focused email campaigns. I have some solicitor and accountant clients who receive these scam emails which are a notch above the rest. The English is good and correctly spelled. The footers look professional and just like the

Re: OT - Hotmail/Outlook.com marking most of our email as Junk

2017-09-26 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 21/09/17 11:13, Zulma Pape wrote: It means that your ip is greylisted in their end. There are many solutions to fix this issue, but the easiest and cheapest one is the get a new ip, and refill the form and see their feedback about it. If it qualifies for mitigation then you'll start

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-21 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 19/09/17 15:05, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/19/2017 9:11 AM, David Jones wrote: I have had these in place for years.  Maybe Kevin can consolidate and integrate this into his KAM.cf so I could remove them or we could eventually get them into the default SA ruleset after some testing. Hi

Re: OT - Hotmail/Outlook.com marking most of our email as Junk

2017-09-21 Thread Sebastian Arcus
it. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk <mailto:s.ar...@open-t.co.uk>> wrote: On 19/09/17 10:29, Zulma Pape wrote: There are tons of ways to get your IP a good reputation with Hotmail. Start setting up the SNDS, th

Re: OT - Hotmail/Outlook.com marking most of our email as Junk

2017-09-21 Thread Sebastian Arcus
about it.   More info here: https://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx On 19/09/2017 07:25, Sebastian Arcus wrote: This is a bit off topic as it is not directly related to SA, but I'm hoping that with the email and spam expertise on this group, someone might throw in a useful idea - which

Re: OT - Hotmail/Outlook.com marking most of our email as Junk

2017-09-21 Thread Sebastian Arcus
. Has this form been removed? On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk <mailto:s.ar...@open-t.co.uk>> wrote: This is a bit off topic as it is not directly related to SA, but I'm hoping that with the email and spam expertise on this gr

MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I've had a number of emails with no subject not triggering the MISSING_SUBJECT rule - only to discover that the spammers have added a white space after 'Subject:' - which appears to fool the code into thinking that there is an actual subject. Would it be possible to 'smarten up' the code a bit

OT - Hotmail/Outlook.com marking most of our email as Junk

2017-09-19 Thread Sebastian Arcus
This is a bit off topic as it is not directly related to SA, but I'm hoping that with the email and spam expertise on this group, someone might throw in a useful idea - which would be much appreciated. I have this problem on one site where most emails we send to Hotmail/Outlook.com/Live.com

Re: FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD still causing false positives

2017-09-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 15/09/17 14:34, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/15/2017 8:26 AM, RW wrote: The rule was created and scored when spoofing Yahoo was very common, but it isn't any more. I don't think it's worth keeping as it is - high maintenance and error prone. Agreed.  Score FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD to zero

Re: SA not receiving fixed FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA update?

2017-09-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 15/09/17 12:21, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/15/2017 6:54 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Thank you for the reply. Does that mean that no new rules have been pushed to SA installations in the past 5 months - or only some rules get pushed through? The system has been "down" sinc

Re: SA not receiving fixed FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA update?

2017-09-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 15/09/17 11:41, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/15/2017 6:11 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I am having problems with false positives for FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA for Yahoo emails. I see this has been already dealt with here and pushed to the 3.4 and trunk branches: https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin

FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD still causing false positives

2017-09-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I see this has come up again and again. Since FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD seems to work by checking the address of the Yahoo smtp server in the headers against a predefined list of Yahoo servers in SA, and Yahoo seems to add new servers all the time - which causes false positives, is there much point to

SA not receiving fixed FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA update?

2017-09-15 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I am having problems with false positives for FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA for Yahoo emails. I see this has been already dealt with here and pushed to the 3.4 and trunk branches: https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7411 However, even after running sa-update, the file 20_meta_tests.cf

Re: In anyone else getting 325KB spams from cont...@cron-job.org?

2017-09-14 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 14/09/17 19:59, Loren Wilton wrote: Should be easy to block.  Just block the cron-job.org domain. As someone else mentioned that address is an obvious joe-job. And scoring it high doesn't help that much. It worked for the first few weeks, then they went to contact@ to presumably get

Re: Config option to skip pyzor check on empty body emails?

2017-09-12 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 12/09/17 12:33, RW wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:41:01 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: The confusing part is that left to its devices, Pyzor creates a .pyzor dir in the home dir of the user it is run as. But if --homedir is specified, it dumps stuff directly there, instead of creating

Re: Config option to skip pyzor check on empty body emails?

2017-09-12 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 12/09/17 00:56, RW wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:37:40 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 11/09/17 20:20, RW wrote: This is why pyzor has the local_whitelist command. At very least it's a good idea to pipe an empty string through "pyzor local_whitelist" (probably as the us

Re: Config option to skip pyzor check on empty body emails?

2017-09-11 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 11/09/17 20:20, RW wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:39:16 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: Is there any way to tell SA to skip pyzor checks on emails with an empty body (even if there are attachments). I've noticed for a while now that emails which don't contain any text in their bodies seem

Config option to skip pyzor check on empty body emails?

2017-09-11 Thread Sebastian Arcus
Is there any way to tell SA to skip pyzor checks on emails with an empty body (even if there are attachments). I've noticed for a while now that emails which don't contain any text in their bodies seem to automatically trigger PYZOR_CHECK (even if they have an attachment) - although they are

Re: SA not performing DNSBL queries correctly

2017-05-20 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/05/17 18:11, Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 17/05/17 16:53, David Mehler wrote: Hi, I don't see your SA issue here, but since your running 3.41 can I get a look at your SA configuration to compare against mine? Thanks. Dave. Yes - you are correct. As I pointed out in my last email

Re: SA not performing DNSBL queries correctly

2017-05-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
with the package supplied by Slackware at slackbuilds.org - and I am chasing it up with them there. But thanks to the advice on this list, I've managed to narrow things down - so I am grateful for the hints. On 5/17/17, Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk> wrote: On 17/05/17 14:54, Seb

Re: SA not performing DNSBL queries correctly

2017-05-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/05/17 14:54, Sebastian Arcus wrote: On 17/05/17 14:21, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 5/17/2017 8:22 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have 2 servers with SA 3.4.1 running on Slackware, with Bind in caching/recursive mode. For months one of them has been unable to correctly do dns blocklists

Re: SA not performing DNSBL queries correctly

2017-05-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/05/17 14:21, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 5/17/2017 8:22 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have 2 servers with SA 3.4.1 running on Slackware, with Bind in caching/recursive mode. For months one of them has been unable to correctly do dns blocklists (but the queries are not blocked). I have

SA not performing DNSBL queries correctly

2017-05-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I have 2 servers with SA 3.4.1 running on Slackware, with Bind in caching/recursive mode. For months one of them has been unable to correctly do dns blocklists (but the queries are not blocked). I have pored over the logs, and the main difference is that, although both of them pick up on the

Re: Dns Blocklists always returning 0 records

2017-03-27 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 27/03/17 11:10, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 3/27/2017 5:28 AM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: And yet, no dns block lists make it to the final scores I have only filed the thread briefly but check your versions of Net::DNS. The good server has Net::DNS 0.83 - so way out of date. The problem

Re: Dns Blocklists always returning 0 records

2017-03-27 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 26/03/17 14:12, David Jones wrote: From: Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 4:23 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Dns Blocklists always returning 0 records I have a server with SA where I just can't seem to get DNS based block lists

Dns Blocklists always returning 0 records

2017-03-26 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I have a server with SA where I just can't seem to get DNS based block lists / RBL working. I have tested the same email message against another server, and it gets hits from DNS block lists. But on this particular server they just don't seem to work - but the dns queries are not blocked

Re: Different bayes results from command line and through MTA

2016-12-23 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 23/12/16 17:02, Andrzej A. Filip wrote: Sebastian Arcus <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk> wrote: On 23/12/16 10:12, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I know this hot potato has been discussed before - but I'm afraid it's back to haunt me and I can't fathom it out. I'm getting again different bayes result

Re: Different bayes results from command line and through MTA

2016-12-23 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 23/12/16 17:18, Paul Stead wrote: On 23/12/2016, 13:35, "Sebastian Arcus" <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk> wrote: As soon as I manually delete the SA headers and report in the .eml file, and pass the message again through spamc, I get identical Bayes scores to the ones

Re: Different bayes results from command line and through MTA

2016-12-23 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 23/12/16 10:12, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I know this hot potato has been discussed before - but I'm afraid it's back to haunt me and I can't fathom it out. I'm getting again different bayes results if I test a message on the command line, compared to it going through exim -> spamassas

Different bayes results from command line and through MTA

2016-12-23 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I know this hot potato has been discussed before - but I'm afraid it's back to haunt me and I can't fathom it out. I'm getting again different bayes results if I test a message on the command line, compared to it going through exim -> spamassassin. The header of the message received in the

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 14:49, RW wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:07:33 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: Site-wide bayes files are owned by spamd. Regarding the daemon, it is started with --socketowner=spamd and socketpath=spamd. Is this enough, or should it be actually started with "su" as &q

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 16/06/16 18:46, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when it goes through exim/spamd. I run everything (both the spamd daemon and the manual tests) as user spamd. I checked the permissions

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 04:46, Bill Cole wrote: On 16 Jun 2016, at 13:46, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have a particular server running spamd Which must run on a particular platform. Since SpamAssassin and Exim can run on a decade's worth of versions of at least 9 different OSs and one of those (Linux) has

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 13:42, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.06.2016 um 14:29 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: On 17/06/16 00:03, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.06.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 00:03, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.06.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when it goes through exim/spamd then you need to run it as the correct user or train

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 03:46, Yu Qian wrote: you can use spamd -D to check the log for exactly what bayes db path your spamd was using. Thank Yu. Based on the output below, it appears to find and use the sitewide bayes files ok: # spamd -D 2>&1 | grep -i bayes Jun 17 13:32:51.719 [4380] dbg: plugin:

Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-16 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when it goes through exim/spamd. I run everything (both the spamd daemon and the manual tests) as user spamd. I checked the permissions on the bayes database. I use a global bayes

[Solved] Re: Error when trying to re-use Bayes database from one server to another

2016-02-14 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 13/02/16 18:58, Bill Cole wrote: On 13 Feb 2016, at 3:49, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Thank you. The donor machine has db42, db44 and db44 packages installed, Based on the question below, I'll assume the second db44 above was a typo for db48, i.e. a Berkeley DB v4.8.x package. Tangentially

Re: Error when trying to re-use Bayes database from one server to another

2016-02-13 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 13/02/16 18:58, Bill Cole wrote: On 13 Feb 2016, at 3:49, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Thank you. The donor machine has db42, db44 and db44 packages installed, Based on the question below, I'll assume the second db44 above was a typo for db48, i.e. a Berkeley DB v4.8.x package. Yes - sorry

Re: Error when trying to re-use Bayes database from one server to another

2016-02-13 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 13/02/16 04:32, Bill Cole wrote: On 12 Feb 2016, at 17:34, Sebastian Arcus wrote: Thanks for that suggestion. I think we might be getting somewhere. On original machine: #file bayes_seen bayes_seen: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 9, native byte-order) # file bayes_toks bayes_toks: Berkeley

Error when trying to re-use Bayes database from one server to another

2016-02-12 Thread Sebastian Arcus
As per advice from this list, I have been re-using my bayes databases on several different servers running SA. On one of the servers though, the database is not accepted. I re-transferred them several times over ssh, to make sure they were not corrupted. The database files are in the correct

Re: Error when trying to re-use Bayes database from one server to another

2016-02-12 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 12/02/16 16:59, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2016 um 17:29 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: As per advice from this list, I have been re-using my bayes databases on several different servers running SA. On one of the servers though, the database is not accepted. I re-transferred them several

Re: Error when trying to re-use Bayes database from one server to another

2016-02-12 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 12/02/16 16:59, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2016 um 17:29 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: As per advice from this list, I have been re-using my bayes databases on several different servers running SA. On one of the servers though, the database is not accepted. I re-transferred them several

Re: Error when trying to re-use Bayes database from one server to another

2016-02-12 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 12/02/16 19:14, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Marc Perkel: Any chance that the parent directory structure doesn't have enough permissions? The error message says it can't access it so there's your clue. Since the files themselves seem to have good permissions I would

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