Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > I'd like to insert an SMTP filter proxy between tcpserver and qmail > (or, in my case: rblsmtpd) that reads a file or cdb containing > all of the domains in my rcpthosts file, and REJECTS messages that are > addressed FROM one of those domains UNLESS the RELAYCLIENT > environment varia

Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > I'm a little confused about this myself... > Does 'open-smtp' not get created if you have mysql support enabled? No; IP adresses that are allowed to relay are written into the "relay" table. Jonas

RE: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > His ~vpopmail/etc/open-smtp a file I should have manually created at > some point in time (touch open-smtp)? No. As you use the MySQL backend, there is no need for that file. You should have mentioned in your first post that you're using MySQL as a backend. Rule of thumb: If

Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > I may just be mouthing off again, but I gather from the last paragraph in > INSTALL that vpopmail may not even bother with vpopmail/etc/tc.smtp and > open-smtp anymore. vpopmail never writes to tcp.smtp. It need read access to that file when building tcp.smtp.cdb. vpopmail writes ope

[vchkpw] vpopmail and tcpserver-mysql (was: Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp fileperms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?)

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi again, > > However, I strongly > > disagree with the INSTALL wording if that's the case! It makes it sound > > like Matt's patch is only "suggested", but it honestly seems to be REQUIRED > > when mysql support is enabled in vpopmail. > > The INSTALL file is right. Short note; quoting the INST

Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vpopmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy > Hi Jesse, > > > I'd like to insert an SMTP filter proxy between tcpserver and qmail > > (or, in my case: rblsmtpd

Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users? > Hi Jesse, > > > His ~vpopmail/etc/open-smtp a file I should have manually created

[vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Kari Suomela
Saturday March 08 2003 14:14, Charles Sprickman wrote to Tren Blackburn: CS> Personally, I think your billing system should be taking care of CS> the CS> removal/suspension of accounts... How would you do it with vpopmail? System accounts are a different story. KS KARICO Business Se

[vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Kari Suomela
Saturday March 08 2003 13:53, Tren Blackburn wrote to All: TB> Also, how many other people would be interested in a feature like TB> this? My company doesn't offer lifetime accounts either. When TB> their TB> contract is up, we remove the domain. Manually? The idea is to set them up once

Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > First off, I didn't write the text you just replied to. That was written by the > other gentleman. You're absolutely right; my further posting should have been started with "Hi Benjamin". :-) > -- begin -- > 4. How do I allow roaming users to use our smtp server without opening >

Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> Manually? The idea is to set them up once, and if they don't bother > renewing, they'll be gone automatically. Exactly. As in when your people add the new user, your billing table has an expiry date. Every week/month/whatever, a cron script runs which spits out a list of users to be deleted,

Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> Exactly. As in when your people add the new user, your billing table has > an expiry date. Every week/month/whatever, a cron script runs which spits > out a list of users to be deleted, and that list is handed off to a cron > script running on the mail system which vdeluser's each one. I shoul

Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > Will qmail-queue give me access to the RELAYCLIENT environment variable? It should, as it's a subsequent process of tcpserver -> qmail-smtpd. You should ask the author of the QMAILQUEUE patch; we're on the vpopmail list, and this is a non-issue here. > I'm talking about spam in my us

Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Kari, > CS> Personally, I think your billing system should be taking care of > CS> the > CS> removal/suspension of accounts... > > How would you do it with vpopmail? System accounts are a different > story. He was talking about "accounts", not "system accounts". It could have meant "vpop

Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users? > Hi Jesse, > > > First off, I didn't write the text you just replied to. That was written b

Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Andrew Kohlsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19 > > Exactly. As in when your people add the new user, your billing table has > > an expiry date. Every week/month/whatever

Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vpopmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy > Hi Jesse, > > > Will qmail-queue give me access to the RELAYCLIENT environment variable? > > It should, as it's a

Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > But I don't think it would break functionality for you, and it would > probably add functionality that people with less friendly billing > programs (or no billing program at all) could appreciate. You have much bigger problems if you are trying to make

Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Charles Sprickman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jesse Guardiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19 > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > > > But I don't think it would bre

Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.3.19

2003-03-09 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > You're probably right. My billing system does suck. But hey, what am I > supposed to do? I help run a small ISP with just over 1K users. I didn't > ask for the billing system. It came with my job. And I don't think we > have enough money for a better bi

Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp file perms/owns for -enable-roaming-users?

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > It seems to me that the whole ./configure autodetect of tcp.smtp is > hokey. I think it would make more sense to specify in the > INSTALL docs and in the configure script that there is a DEFAULT > location for tcp.smtp. The configure script does that, if you run "./configure --help".

Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > If I don't allow email to come into my network with forged FROM > headers(or even forged envelope sender headers if they're relevent) Here's already an error in your idea - you can't reliably see if a sender address is forged, and therefore: > how would that NOT prevent the spam from

Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vpopmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy > Hi Jesse, > > > If I don't allow email to come into my network with forged FROM > > headers(or even forged envelo

Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Jesse, > > > If I don't allow email to come into my network with forged FROM > > > headers(or even forged envelope sender headers if they're relevent) > > > > Here's already an error in your idea - you can't reliably see if a > > sender address is forged, and therefore: > > But I can. It's sim

Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

2003-03-09 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vpopmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy > Hi Jesse, > > > > > If I don't allow email to come into my network with forged FROM > > > > headers(or even forge