Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-11 Thread jori.hamalainen
I believe JJussi is mixing things up a bit. What he describes is audio subtitling, which YLE has chosen to send labelled as a Dutch audio track. It seems that they have started to use Dutch also for Finnish subtitling for Finnish spoken programs. They would have selected some African

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
Schmidinger wrote: On 03/07/08 18:46, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: info.vdr is below. Your problem most likely has the same cause as the other one. Please try the patch I posted earlier today. Klaus _ Alkuperäinen viesti _ Aihe: Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Hi, Your patch didn't fix this problem although it changed behaviour. Subtitle language selection is now kind of inversed in replay mode. I mean that when I select finnish subtitles (suomi) I'll get swedish ones (during finnish talk and nothing

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Petri Helin
Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Hi, Your patch didn't fix this problem although it changed behaviour. Subtitle language selection is now kind of inversed in replay mode. I mean that when I select finnish subtitles (suomi) I'll get swedish ones (during finnish talk and nothing during swedish talk)

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: On 09 Mar 2008, at 21:32, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: ... Everything was OK in live mode (I got finnish subtitles as I had selected them) but during replay I got swedish subtitles. If I selected swedish

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: On 09 Mar 2008, at 21:32, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: ... Everything was OK in live mode (I got finnish subtitles as I had selected them) but during replay I got swedish subtitles. If I

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Anssi Hannula
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: [...] changing pids of channel 8 from 514+514:670=eng:0:2321 to 514+514:670=eng:3028=sve,3027=fin:2321 and info.vdr: C C-0-1-5 YLE FST5 E 471 1205093700 3419 4E 10 T Jools Holland show S Brittiläistä musiikkiviihdettä.

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 09 Mar 2008, at 23:54, Petri Helin wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: On 09 Mar 2008, at 21:32, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: ... Everything was OK in live mode (I got finnish subtitles as I had selected them)

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Jouni Karvo
Klaus Schmidinger kirjoitti: However, there still would be the problem that VDR couldn't even tell that the dut track is for the hard of hearing, because it is not properly marked. Or am I missing something here? I think you are right - YLE uses dut for a synonym of hearing impaired. Go

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: None of these two is specified as for the hard of hearing. Well, as Jouni already told, the Dutch is used here on YLE channels for hard of hearing purposes. :) Maybe this is what's causing the problems here. While this makes sense for audio, it

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: From what I was able to see in the clip you provided, the dut track is there from the very beginning (don't know if it actually contains Dutch texts, though - my guess would have been it is Finnish), and the fin track only appears when the

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread JJussi
On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: The info.vdr file contains X 3 11 fin X 2 03 fin X 3 03 dut which indicates that audio is in Finnish, and there are two subtitle tracks. The one with type 03 looks like any other subtitle track I've seen so far, like That dut

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Pertti Kosunen
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: I guess this kind of small change would be enough. IMO, the subtitles should be shown only if a preferred language matches. I vote this for 1.6.0. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 12:26, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: None of these two is specified as for the hard of hearing. Well, as Jouni already told, the Dutch is used here on YLE channels for hard of hearing purposes. :) Maybe this is what's causing the

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 11:07, Jouni Karvo wrote: Klaus Schmidinger kirjoitti: However, there still would be the problem that VDR couldn't even tell that the dut track is for the hard of hearing, because it is not properly marked. Or am I missing something here? I think you are right - YLE uses

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 06:21, JJussi wrote: On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: The info.vdr file contains X 3 11 fin X 2 03 fin X 3 03 dut which indicates that audio is in Finnish, and there are two subtitle tracks. The one with type 03 looks like any other subtitle

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/07/08 06:21, JJussi wrote: On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: The info.vdr file contains X 3 11 fin X 2 03 fin X 3 03 dut which indicates that audio is in Finnish, and there are two subtitle tracks. The one with type 03 looks like

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 17:26, Petri Helin wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/07/08 06:21, JJussi wrote: On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: The info.vdr file contains X 3 11 fin X 2 03 fin X 3 03 dut which indicates that audio is in Finnish, and there are two subtitle

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
info.vdr is below. _ Alkuperäinen viesti _ Aihe: Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles Tekijä: Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivämäärä: 7. maaliskuuta 2008 0:39:48 On 03/06/08 06:58, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Klaus, I have sample for the problem explained below

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Markku Virtanen
Maybe slightly off topic, but plain cable digital receiver Topfield TF6000COC seems to get confused as well with this DUT-setting. Sometimes these subtitles gets activated by itself allthough not preselected. This activation by itself is fairly new feature, because receiver has been working

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 18:46, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: info.vdr is below. Your problem most likely has the same cause as the other one. Please try the patch I posted earlier today. Klaus _ Alkuperäinen viesti _ Aihe: Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles Tekijä: Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
Klaus, I have sample for the problem explained below. Do you want/need it? It is unfortunately 68M and I don't know where to put it. Cheers, Kimmo On 04 Mar 2008, at 22:21, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: I tested 1.5.17 without any patches and only plugin I used was xineliboutput. I was lucky to

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread JJussi
On Thursday, 6. Marchta 2008 07:58:49 Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Klaus, I have sample for the problem explained below. Do you want/need it? It is unfortunately 68M and I don't know where to put it. Cheers, Kimmo Can you use vdr's cut feature and cut it to much shorter.. I gues that 30 second

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/04/08 21:17, Petri Helin wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/04/08 19:55, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Hi, I switched recently to vdr 1.5 series and noticed an annoying feature/ bug with DVB subtitles that was not present in vdr 1.4 series using subtitles plugin. The problem is that

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/06/08 06:58, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Klaus, I have sample for the problem explained below. Do you want/need it? It is unfortunately 68M and I don't know where to put it. For starters, can you please just post the info.vdr file of this recording? Klaus On 04 Mar 2008, at 22:21, Kimmo

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-04 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/04/08 19:55, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Hi, I switched recently to vdr 1.5 series and noticed an annoying feature/ bug with DVB subtitles that was not present in vdr 1.4 series using subtitles plugin. The problem is that the subtitles for hearing impaired

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-04 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 04 Mar 2008, at 21:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 03/04/08 19:55, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Hi, I switched recently to vdr 1.5 series and noticed an annoying feature/ bug with DVB subtitles that was not present in vdr 1.4 series using subtitles plugin. The problem is that the subtitles

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-04 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 04 Mar 2008, at 22:21, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: Another program (danish speaking series) from same channel. In live mode I got finnish subtitle and in replay mode subtitles were in swedish. This case is not repeatable. As I now checked this recording the subtitles were in finnish.