Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-07 Thread Travel Factory S.r.l.
Isn't that the fun part of it? I don't watch much TV, but I like fiddling and tuning the VDR! What you said here is absolutely right, i totally agree :) I also agree... for my part... but my wife doesn't !! She wants to turn on the pc and switch to euronews... or record a film...

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-06 Thread Füley István
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Morfsta wrote: Isn't that the fun part of it? I don't watch much TV, but I like fiddling and tuning the VDR! What you said here is absolutely right, i totally agree :) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-05 Thread Arthur Konovalov
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 12:06, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: Is the CAM Handling regarding multiple parallel recodings (on the same channel) fixed? Have you tried version 1.5 yet? It can do multiple parallel recordings with the same CAM (if the CAM supports this). I still

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-05 Thread Peter Münster
On Sun, Feb 03 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Yes or No? No, because 1.4.7 is quite good enough today for most users and distributions, and those who need more can compile 1.5.X with additional kernel drivers. So you don't need to bother with 2 branches (1.6 and 1.7). Cheers, Peter --

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-05 Thread Antti Hartikainen
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 09:06:13PM +0200, Arthur Konovalov wrote: Have you tried version 1.5 yet? It can do multiple parallel recordings with the same CAM (if the CAM supports this). I still have problem with it. Recording on crypted channel is not possible when watching FTA DVB-C on

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Patrick Rother
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 11:17:05AM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Yes. pgptdi5ZvSAJN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/04/08 09:46, Ludwig Nussel wrote: Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: I've been using VDR for about a year and a half now and it's great. But with all due respect, I think you're doing this the wrong way around. At least here in Finland, decent DVB subtitles support is pretty much the only thing

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes. It would be pity if that means that the stable version stays at 1.6.0 and doesn't receive any more bugfixes though. cu Ludwig -- (o_

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread DD ---
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:06:19 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vdr@linuxtv.org Subject: Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now? I usually lurk here so my vote represents the 'user' community more than the 'dev'.. Yes to stable 1.6.0 with current kernel-drivers - VDR needs

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: I've been using VDR for about a year and a half now and it's great. But with all due respect, I think you're doing this the wrong way around. At least here in Finland, decent DVB subtitles support is pretty much the only thing VDR needs to be usable out-of-the-box

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/04/08 09:46, Ludwig Nussel wrote: Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: I've been using VDR for about a year and a half now and it's great. But with all due respect, I think you're doing this the wrong way around. At least here in Finland, decent DVB subtitles

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Tobi
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: I believe there is a patch for that, but that's not the way I want to implement it. Yes we have this patch in the (unofficial!) Debian package to support the ttxtsubs plug-in. The Patch is maintained by Rolf Ahrenberg. http://www.saunalahti.fi/~rahrenbe/vdr/patches/

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Ed Hein
On Sunday 03 February 2008 11:17:05 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Yes. Cya, Ed -- When the stars threw down their spears, AAh!

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Klaus Schmidinger a écrit : Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? 1) a stable release shouldn't stop the current development for a long time, thus shouldn't delay the S2/H264 and other neat

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? yes Best regards, Matthias -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Matthias Schwarzott
On Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008, Andrey Kuzmin wrote: What are chances that multiproto will be merged to kernel in the nearest time (1-2 months?) If chances are big, I don't think that it is a good time to lose valuable Klaus's time for releasing supporting new stable version that will freeze

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/04/08 18:11, Füley István wrote: I'm not sure about that. At least the ZDF here in Germany uses DVB subtitles now, but I don't think the other broadcasters will follow very fast. I believe the ARD is also looking into this. At any rate, using DVB subtitles would be the optimal

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Füley István
You're absolutely right. But: UPC Direct removed couple of days ago the Czech and Hungarian DVB subtitle from BBC Prime (on S19.2E) and now it only has teletext subtitles :( This means that after about a year I have to install teletext subtitle plugin again. Did they give any reason why

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now? - Result!

2008-02-04 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
In any case - thanks to Klaus that community were involved in this process. IMHO feature requests polls will also be useful. As we see now, teletext subtitles are also important feature for many of VDR users, may be there are others too :) ___ vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Sebastien Lucas
On Feb 3, 2008 11:17 AM, Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? In my opinion, Yes (a stable release never hurts).

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread VDR User
On Feb 4, 2008 12:06 AM, Jukka Vaisanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes to stable 1.6.0 with current kernel-drivers - VDR needs new users that can get it running easily out of the box with a debian bare bones install. The people who want HDTV support are going to go with the dev-releases anyway.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Füley István
I'm not sure about that. At least the ZDF here in Germany uses DVB subtitles now, but I don't think the other broadcasters will follow very fast. I believe the ARD is also looking into this. At any rate, using DVB subtitles would be the optimal solution. Klaus You're absolutely right.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Lauri Tischler
Ludwig Nussel wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes. It would be pity if that means that the stable version stays at 1.6.0 and doesn't receive any more bugfixes

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Petri Helin
On Feb 4, 2008 7:15 PM, Sebastien Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Totally off topic and only my opinion A side note : I think most of the No answer comes from people who were expecting specific modifications (txtsub, full dvb subtitle, dvb-s2, h264, ts recording, ...). IMHO answering no in

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-04 Thread Philippe Gramoullé
Hello Klaus, On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:17:05 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So, here's the straw poll: | |Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in |version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? | | Yes or No? | |

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Martin Binder (AON)
Hi Klaus, my opinion: the next stable version should contain DVB-S2/H.264 (HDTV) support. So there is no use for a stable version based on 1.5.14. Kind regards Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus Schmidinger Sent: Sunday,

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Martin Binder (AON) wrote: Hi Klaus, my opinion: the next stable version should contain DVB-S2/H.264 (HDTV) support. So there is no use for a stable version based on 1.5.14. Kind regards Martin Basically, I agree. But since there are no DVB-S2 drivers in the official kernel I think

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that should be included in the next stable

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Dave P
On Sunday 03 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? I have no use for HDTV support (the only HDTV available in the UK at present is on the closed $KY system), so freezing

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Is the CAM Handling regarding multiple parallel recodings (on the same channel) fixed? I

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? 1.5 already introduced many new features as freetype, the new i18n, subtitles, ... just to

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:11, Richard F wrote: Klaus, For those of us not 100% up to date with the code, could you list for us the main changes we are voting for here? Also, some indication of any known compatibility issues that might arise (e.g. with Vdradmin, Vomp, Epgsearch... Please take a look

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:06, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Is the CAM Handling regarding multiple

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB subtitling (still missing component type support for the hard of

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:17, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB subtitling (still missing

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB subtitling (still missing component type support for the hard of hearing), EBU

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Richard F
Klaus, For those of us not 100% up to date with the code, could you list for us the main changes we are voting for here? Also, some indication of any known compatibility issues that might arise (e.g. with Vdradmin, Vomp, Epgsearch... Thanks ___

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:27, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB subtitling (still missing component type

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Sunday 03 February 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? +1 ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 12:27, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB subtitling

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Petri Helin
Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: In my opinion DVB-S2/H.264 are nice to have extra features, but working DVB subtitling support is a must have feature for PVR software like VDR, because almost everyone needs DVB subtitles around here, but not that many watch HDTV channels yet. But the DVB

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On 03.02.2008 12:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 12:06, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:48, Petri Helin wrote: Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: In my opinion DVB-S2/H.264 are nice to have extra features, but working DVB subtitling support is a must have feature for PVR software like VDR, because almost everyone needs DVB subtitles around here, but not that many

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 12:48, Petri Helin wrote: once there is support for h.264, a new stable release should be made. Is this a Yes or No vote? Klaus Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Füley István
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes, I think it would be a good idea to have a stable and up-to-date VDR version in the main distros based on the kernel

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:48, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: On 03.02.2008 12:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 12:06, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Petri Helin wrote: But the DVB subtitling is working, isn't it? At least i have not had any Only partially. The current implementation doesn't differentiate normal and hard of hearing stream components (Table 26 in ETSI EN 300 468). I was going to make a patch for this,

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rene Hertell
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? I would vote for a stable release now, cause some time has passed since the latest stable was released. Some

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Patrick Boettcher
Hi Klaus, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? With H264 support, because some DVB-T channels (at least here in France) are starting to carry H264-channels,

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Mikko Salo
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Patrick Boettcher
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 13:26, Patrick Boettcher wrote: Hi Klaus, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? With H264

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Anssi Hannula
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: There has been some controversy about my recent decision to move forward and require the multiproto driver for VDR in the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear whether the current PES recording format can be kept to handle HDTV, or whether it would

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:40, Füley István wrote: ... OT: Klaus, can you tell us anything about future H.264 support? DVB-S2 H.264 sounds HDTV, and this means that we'll have an X-based output instead of FF-card's TV out? VDR will use whatever output device it finds. For H.264 it will have to be one

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello, in the Linux world, the first stable aren't necessary really stable, it just mean feature freeze. From my point of view, the inclusion of DVB-S2 and H.264 together with multiproto is a must have before a feature freeze. I feel we are really near of that point, I wish 1.6 could include

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jere Malila
At this point no, but yes when dvb-support is completed. -J- ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:26, Patrick Boettcher wrote: Hi Klaus, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? With H264 support, because some DVB-T channels (at least here

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:39, Patrick Boettcher wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02/03/08 13:26, Patrick Boettcher wrote: Hi Klaus, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 14:08, Udo Richter wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? My answer is a clear and determined 'Maybe'. ;) A new stable release would bring lots of useful

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:36, Ales Jurik wrote: On Sunday 03 February 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Klaus Hi Klaus, I vote for

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:43, Gregoire Favre wrote: Hello, in the Linux world, the first stable aren't necessary really stable, it just mean feature freeze. From my point of view, the inclusion of DVB-S2 and H.264 together with multiproto is a must have before a feature freeze. I feel we are really

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Udo Richter
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? My answer is a clear and determined 'Maybe'. ;) A new stable release would bring lots of useful features to the end user that is still

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I am against a stable version at this time. Those who wants to use latest vdr can use Udo's wrapper patch (Thanks for this)? The distributors can use this patch too so it is no need for a stable version at this time! Best regards, Halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail:

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Alfred Zastrow
Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Yes, please best regards Alfred ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Morfsta
No! Let's not lose momentum on VDR moving forward. I am intrigued as to whether this move towards TS will improve performance for my H264 channels. BTW, vompserver (CVS) / epgsearch etc all work with latest VDR and multiproto. I use it here. On Feb 3, 2008 1:25 PM, Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Andrew Herron
Yes On Feb 3, 2008 10:17 AM, Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has been some controversy about my recent decision to move forward and require the multiproto driver for VDR in the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear whether the current PES recording format

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Füley István
For the final result all votes given here on the ML and on vdrportal.de will be added up. Klaus Shall it definitely be 1.6.0? Can't the 1.5.x improvements (subtitle support, utf, etc) be backported to 1.4 branch and call it 1.4.8? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 14:18, Füley István wrote: For the final result all votes given here on the ML and on vdrportal.de will be added up. Klaus Shall it definitely be 1.6.0? Can't the 1.5.x improvements (subtitle support, utf, etc) be backported to 1.4 branch and call it 1.4.8? Apart from a lot

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Hannu Tirkkonen
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 11:17:05AM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? NO You would just shoot yourself in the leg ;O I'm

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Carsten Koch
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? My (selfish) vote is No. I do like the fact that 1.5.14 raises some expectation of DVB-S2 support in the (official or

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 11:17 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Yes. The linux kernel development has been through similar arguments about the merits of

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Christoph Haubrich
So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? I would prefer some other features like ttxtsub before DVB-S2 and H.264 support but as this is not an option I vote for:

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Rohdewald
On Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:  Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in    version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? yes -- Wolfgang ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Andy Carter
On Sunday 03 February 2008 10:17:05 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Mattia Rossi
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:17:05 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Yes. The HDTV stuff and possibly a new

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
What are chances that multiproto will be merged to kernel in the nearest time (1-2 months?) If chances are big, I don't think that it is a good time to lose valuable Klaus's time for releasing supporting new stable version that will freeze another stable 1.8 with multiproto support till 2009 :)

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread derblubber
Am 03.02.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Klaus yes ___ vdr mailing list

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread VDR User
On Feb 3, 2008 3:17 AM, Rolf Ahrenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The compile time selection between multiproto and normal drivers (as done in Udo's dvb-api-emulate patch) could be used from now on. I don't see any reason to freeze the development at this phase. The completition of H.264

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Carsten Koch
Andrey Kuzmin wrote: ... I don't think that it is a good time to lose valuable Klaus's time for releasing supporting new stable version Absolutely right! A 1.6.0 release now will only slow down progress. Carsten. ___ vdr mailing list

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rainer Marks
Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 11:17:05 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Yes or No? YES signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:24:03PM +, Jon Burgess wrote: The linux kernel development has been through similar arguments about the merits of the 2.2/2.4/2.6 development models. I can not see any negatives in releasing a new stable version. It's hard to compare VDR to kernels : VDR is

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 17:43, Gregoire Favre wrote: On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:24:03PM +, Jon Burgess wrote: The linux kernel development has been through similar arguments about the merits of the 2.2/2.4/2.6 development models. I can not see any negatives in releasing a new stable version.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Pasi Juppo
My vote is No. Reason: teletext subtitles are missing and DVB-subtitles are not fully supported. Because of these VDR core needs to be patched therefore I consider it as incomplete regarding subtitling. If stable version is created now there is high risk that subtitling support will remain

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Stefan Taferner
Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 11:17:05 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes. I am also keen on having HDTV support in VDR. But as things are now it will probably take some

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Thomas Sailer
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 13:34 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: +1 Since I'm using Ville's Packages and he said yes, I also vote for yes. Tom ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 06:07:20PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Well, then documenting that by calling it 1.6.0 now can't be that wrong ;-). Yes, that's a good point :-) Once a 1.6.0 is out, there will only be bugfixes in it. No more changes to interfaces, functionality etc.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Reiner Buehl
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? I would vote for NO as the current status does not represent enough new functionality to justify a switch from 1.4.7 to the

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Stefan Hußfeldt
Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Yes, I'ld prefer a stable 1.6.0 now or soon and DVB-S2 support in the upcoming 1.7.x. -- Und

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Achim Tuffentsammer
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? Klaus Yes ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread syrius . ml
Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? No ! I'm still using 1.4.7. It would have been a yes if : - i was using 1.5 already - new dev version 1.7 was

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, fuuu vdr config files in xml Biiitte nicht. BR. Halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Markku Virtanen
Hello Klaus! No. As it has been pointed out generally speaking texting support is not complete and if new version is released now, it never will. The problem here is that functionality additions are not finished, only partially and adding new stuff is started simultaneously. Only reason for me

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Rolf Ahrenberg may or may not have written... [snip] The completition of H.264 support would be nice to have in next stable version. The H.264 support isn't related only to DVB-S2 as it's used already in many DVB-C and DVB-T networks nowadays. Then there's DVB-T2, which we

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Theunis Potgieter
No On 03/02/2008, Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has been some controversy about my recent decision to move forward and require the multiproto driver for VDR in the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear whether the current PES recording format can be kept to

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Manu Abraham
Hi Patrick, Patrick Boettcher wrote: Hi Klaus, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? With H264 support, because some DVB-T channels (at least here in

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Pizzak
Yes for version 1.6.0 now :) --- Pizzak Administrator of vdr-italia wiki (http://vdr.spaghettilinux.org/) ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Helmut Auer
Hi So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes or No? No, The reason is really easy to explain: I am happy with a stable 1.4.7 and I have no problem using a developer

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Arthur Konovalov
Petri Helin wrote: If the h.264 support is left out, it's a no. Same here. AK ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 20:30, Markku Virtanen wrote: Hello Klaus! No. As it has been pointed out generally speaking texting support is not complete and if new version is released now, it never will. By texting support I assume you mean teletext subtitles. Well, they won't be implemented before

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jörg Knitter
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Yes or No? Yes. Although there have not been too many improvements, a lot of plugins had to be updated due to UTF-8 support etc. If you continue with huge things like H.264 and TS recording (yes, yes, yes :)), it might even take longer getting a new stable base

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