Re: [vdr] vdr with control plugin and osd

2008-02-03 Thread Sebastian Dellit
Hello Sebastian and all readers, on Sunday, February 3, 2008 at 9:34:51 AM means Sebastian Dellit: > on Sunday, January 27, 2008 at 2:09:30 PM means Tobi: >> Sebastian Dellit wrote: >>> The options for the control plugin are correct but the >>> >> Are you sure? The control plug-in must be confi

[vdr] [Announce] xxv-1.1 - Feature release (1.2 rc)

2008-02-03 Thread Andreas Brachold
Hello, The xxv project team announce this feature release of xxv-1.1. xxv-1.1 is a release candidate of our next major release for XXV the "Xtreme eXtension for VDR",its containing a large number of bug fixes and enhancements and more. Major changes are : -- Database: Change met

Re: [vdr] Transfer-Mode without remux

2008-02-03 Thread Martin Dauskardt
Hi Klaus, sending TS payload data directly to the device shouldn`t become a generally method. Please be aware that there are other output devices which can`t handle TS data. For example, the decoder of the PVR350 needs a multiplexed Audio/Video PES. Greets, Martin

Re: [vdr] Transfer-Mode without remux

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 10:56, Martin Dauskardt wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > sending TS payload data directly to the device shouldn`t become a generally > method. Please be aware that there are other output devices which can`t > handle TS data. For example, the decoder of the PVR350 needs a multiplexed > Audio/V

[vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
There has been some controversy about my recent decision to move forward and require the "multiproto" driver for VDR in the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear whether the current PES recording format can be kept to handle HDTV, or whether it would make sense (or even be feasible

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Martin Binder (AON)
Hi Klaus, my opinion: the next stable version should contain DVB-S2/H.264 (HDTV) support. So there is no use for a stable version based on 1.5.14. Kind regards Martin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Klaus Schmidinger > Sent: Sunday,

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Martin Binder (AON) wrote: > Hi Klaus, > my opinion: the next stable version should contain DVB-S2/H.264 (HDTV) > support. So there is no use for a stable version based on 1.5.14. > > Kind regards > Martin > > Basically, I agree. But since there are no DVB-S2 drivers in the official kernel I t

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in > version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key features that should be included in the next stabl

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Dave P
On Sunday 03 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? I have no use for HDTV support (the only HDTV available in the UK at present is on the closed $KY system), so freezin

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >> version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jan Exner
>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes. The DVB subtitles are worth it, IMNSHO. Cheers, Jan ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Is the CAM Handling regarding multiple parallel recodings (on the same channel) fixed

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? 1.5 already introduced many new features as freetype, the new i18n, subtitles, ... just t

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:11, Richard F wrote: > Klaus, > > For those of us not 100% up to date with the code, could you list for us > the main changes we are voting for here? > Also, some indication of any known compatibility issues that might arise > (e.g. with Vdradmin, Vomp, Epgsearch... Please take a l

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:06, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: > On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> So, here's the straw poll: >> >>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >>version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Is the CAM Handling regarding

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: >> No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key >> features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB >> subtitling (still missing component type support for the hard of

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:17, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: >>> No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key >>> features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB >>> subtitling (sti

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > > No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key > > features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB > > subtitling (still missing component type support for the hard of > > hearing), EBU

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Richard F
Klaus, For those of us not 100% up to date with the code, could you list for us the main changes we are voting for here? Also, some indication of any known compatibility issues that might arise (e.g. with Vdradmin, Vomp, Epgsearch... Thanks ___ vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:27, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: >>> No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key >>> features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB >>> subtitling (still missing componen

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Sunday 03 February 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? +1 ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-b

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 02/03/08 12:27, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: > > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> On 02/03/08 11:43, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > >>> No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key > >>> features that should be included in the next stable version: DVB > >

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Petri Helin
Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: > In my opinion DVB-S2/H.264 are "nice to have" extra features, but working DVB > subtitling support is a "must have" feature for PVR software like VDR, > because almost everyone needs DVB subtitles around here, but not that many > watch HDTV channels yet. > But the D

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On 03.02.2008 12:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 02/03/08 12:06, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: > > On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> So, here's the straw poll: > >> > >>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in > >>version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:48, Petri Helin wrote: > Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: >> In my opinion DVB-S2/H.264 are "nice to have" extra features, but working >> DVB >> subtitling support is a "must have" feature for PVR software like VDR, >> because almost everyone needs DVB subtitles around here, but not that

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 02/03/08 12:48, Petri Helin wrote: >> once there is support >> for h.264, a new stable release should be made. > > Is this a "Yes" or "No" vote? > > Klaus > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >ver

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Füley István
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in > version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes, I think it would be a good idea to have a stable and up-to-date VDR version in the main distros based on the kernel

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:48, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: > On 03.02.2008 12:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 02/03/08 12:06, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: >>> On 03.02.2008 11:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: So, here's the straw poll: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Petri Helin wrote: > But the DVB subtitling is working, isn't it? At least i have not had any Only partially. The current implementation doesn't differentiate normal and hard of hearing stream components (Table 26 in ETSI EN 300 468). I was going to make a patch for this, bu

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rene Hertell
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? I would vote for a stable release now, cause some time has passed since the latest stable was released. Some

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Patrick Boettcher
Hi Klaus, On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? With H264 support, because some DVB-T channels (at least here in France) are starting to carry H264-channels,

[vdr] [PATCH] DVB API wrapper patch v0.2 for VDR-1.5.14

2008-02-03 Thread Udo Richter
Hi list, Based on the original DVB API patch of last week, I've done a cleaner rewrite of the patch. This time, the changes to the VDR sources are limited to a few #includes and replacements of ioctl calls by the new DVBFE_ioctl wrapper call. All the magic goes into this API wrapper, that tr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Magnus Andersson
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > There has been some controversy about my recent decision to > move forward and require the "multiproto" driver for VDR in > the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear > whether the current PES recording format can be kept to handle > HDTV, or whether it wo

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Mikko Salo
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > >> Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >> version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? >> > > No. The current features in 1.5.14 are still missing some essential key > featu

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Patrick Boettcher
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 02/03/08 13:26, Patrick Boettcher wrote: > > Hi Klaus, > > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in > >>version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? >

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Anssi Hannula
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > There has been some controversy about my recent decision to > move forward and require the "multiproto" driver for VDR in > the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear > whether the current PES recording format can be kept to handle > HDTV, or whether it wo

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 12:40, Füley István wrote: > ... > OT: Klaus, can you tell us anything about future H.264 support? > DVB-S2 & H.264 sounds HDTV, and this means that we'll have an X-based > output instead of FF-card's TV out? VDR will use whatever output device it finds. For H.264 it will have to be

[vdr] VDR, Ubuntu & upstart

2008-02-03 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
Hi! I'm looking how to solve such issue: when I run runvdr script in terminal window of my Ubuntu 7.10 (with russian UTF8 locale), OSD shows correct russian EPG, channel lists, etc... But when I run vdr using upstart's script: exec /ego/vdr/_runvdr console output

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello, in the Linux world, the first stable aren't necessary really stable, it just mean feature freeze. >From my point of view, the inclusion of DVB-S2 and H.264 together with multiproto is a must have before a feature freeze. I feel we are really near of that point, I wish 1.6 could include tho

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jere Malila
At this point no, but yes when dvb-support is completed. -J- ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:26, Patrick Boettcher wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >>version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > With H264 support, because some DVB-T channels (at leas

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:39, Patrick Boettcher wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> On 02/03/08 13:26, Patrick Boettcher wrote: >>> Hi Klaus, >>> >>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in version 1.5.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ales Jurik
On Sunday 03 February 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > > Klaus > Hi Klaus, I vote for DVB-S2/H.264 (HDTV) support. But if

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 14:08, Udo Richter wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >>version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > My answer is a clear and determined 'Maybe'. ;) > > > A new stable release would bring lots of

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:36, Ales Jurik wrote: > On Sunday 03 February 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> So, here's the straw poll: >> >>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >>version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? >> >> Yes or No? >> >> Klaus >> > > Hi K

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 13:43, Gregoire Favre wrote: > Hello, > > in the Linux world, the first stable aren't necessary really stable, it > just mean feature freeze. > >>From my point of view, the inclusion of DVB-S2 and H.264 together with > multiproto is a must have before a feature freeze. I feel we are r

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Udo Richter
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? My answer is a clear and determined 'Maybe'. ;) A new stable release would bring lots of useful features to the end user that is still sitt

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I am against a stable version at this time. Those who wants to use latest vdr can use Udo's wrapper patch (Thanks for this)? The distributors can use this patch too so it is no need for a stable version at this time! Best regards, Halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Alfred Zastrow
Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? Yes, please best regards Alfred ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Morfsta
No! Let's not lose momentum on VDR moving forward. I am intrigued as to whether this move towards TS will improve performance for my H264 channels. BTW, vompserver (CVS) / epgsearch etc all work with latest VDR and multiproto. I use it here. On Feb 3, 2008 1:25 PM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Andrew Herron
Yes On Feb 3, 2008 10:17 AM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been some controversy about my recent decision to > move forward and require the "multiproto" driver for VDR in > the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear > whether the current PES recording fo

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Füley István
> For the final result all votes given here on the ML and on vdrportal.de > will be added up. > > Klaus Shall it definitely be 1.6.0? Can't the 1.5.x improvements (subtitle support, utf, etc) be backported to 1.4 branch and call it 1.4.8? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and danger

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 14:18, Füley István wrote: >> For the final result all votes given here on the ML and on vdrportal.de >> will be added up. >> >> Klaus > > Shall it definitely be 1.6.0? > Can't the 1.5.x improvements (subtitle support, utf, etc) be backported to > 1.4 branch and call it 1.4.8? Apart

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Hannu Tirkkonen
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 11:17:05AM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? NO You would just shoot yourself in the leg ;O I'm

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Carsten Koch
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? My (selfish) vote is No. I do like the fact that 1.5.14 raises some expectation of DVB-S2 support in the (official or dis

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 11:17 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > Yes. The linux kernel development has been through similar arguments about the merits o

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Christoph Haubrich
> So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > I would prefer some other features like ttxtsub before DVB-S2 and H.264 support but as this is not an option I vote

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Rohdewald
On Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >  Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >    version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? yes -- Wolfgang ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.li

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Ernst Herzberg
On Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > Yes. I need UTF-8 support _and_ a stable vdr;-) _

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Andy Carter
On Sunday 03 February 2008 10:17:05 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? Yes ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Mattia Rossi
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:17:05 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > Yes. The HDTV stuff and possibly

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
What are chances that multiproto will be merged to kernel in the nearest time (1-2 months?) If chances are big, I don't think that it is a good time to lose valuable Klaus's time for releasing & supporting new stable version that will freeze another stable 1.8 with multiproto support till 2009 :)

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread derblubber
Am 03.02.2008 um 11:17 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: > So, here's the straw poll: > > Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in > version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > > Klaus yes ___ vdr maili

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread VDR User
On Feb 3, 2008 3:17 AM, Rolf Ahrenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The compile time selection between multiproto and normal drivers (as > done in Udo's dvb-api-emulate patch) could be used from now on. I don't > see any reason to freeze the development at this phase. > > The completition of H.264

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Carsten Koch
Andrey Kuzmin wrote: ... > I don't think that it > is a good time to lose valuable Klaus's time for releasing & > supporting new stable version Absolutely right! A 1.6.0 release now will only slow down progress. Carsten. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linux

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Rainer Marks
Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 11:17:05 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: > Yes or No? YES signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:24:03PM +, Jon Burgess wrote: > The linux kernel development has been through similar arguments about > the merits of the 2.2/2.4/2.6 development models. I can not see any > negatives in releasing a new stable version. It's hard to compare VDR to kernels : VDR is m

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 17:43, Gregoire Favre wrote: > On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:24:03PM +, Jon Burgess wrote: > >> The linux kernel development has been through similar arguments about >> the merits of the 2.2/2.4/2.6 development models. I can not see any >> negatives in releasing a new stable version.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Pasi Juppo
My vote is No. Reason: teletext subtitles are missing and DVB-subtitles are not fully supported. Because of these VDR core needs to be patched therefore I consider it as incomplete regarding subtitling. If stable version is created now there is high risk that subtitling support will remain inc

Re: [vdr] VDR, Ubuntu & upstart

2008-02-03 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
Answering myself. I've changed script to: console output respawn script LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 export LANG

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Stefan Taferner
Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 11:17:05 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > Yes. I am also keen on having HDTV support in VDR. But as things are now it will probably take some

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Thomas Sailer
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 13:34 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > +1 Since I'm using Ville's Packages and he said yes, I also vote for yes. Tom ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 06:07:20PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Well, then documenting that by calling it 1.6.0 now can't be that wrong ;-). Yes, that's a good point :-) > Once a 1.6.0 is out, there will only be bugfixes in it. > No more changes to interfaces, functionality etc. > Develo

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Reiner Buehl
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? I would vote for NO as the current status does not represent enough new functionality to justify a switch from 1.4.7 to th

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Stefan Hußfeldt
Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: > So, here's the straw poll: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > Yes or No? Yes, I'ld prefer a stable 1.6.0 now or soon and DVB-S2 support in the upcoming 1.7.x. -- Und Ts

Re: [vdr] wrong time in tv program

2008-02-03 Thread Martin SCHREIBER
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 16:32 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 01/29/08 20:16, Martin SCHREIBER wrote: > > hello! > > > > the time in the vdr (right bottom) is displayed correctly but the time > > for the tv movies are displayed with a 7 hour displacement. > > > > e.g. the local time is 20:11

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Achim Tuffentsammer
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > > Klaus > > Yes ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linu

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread syrius . ml
Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? No ! I'm still using 1.4.7. It would have been a yes if : - i was using 1.5 already - new dev version 1.

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, fuuu vdr config files in xml Biiitte nicht. BR. Halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Markku Virtanen
Hello Klaus! No. As it has been pointed out generally speaking "texting support" is not complete and if new version is released now, it never will. The problem here is that functionality additions are not finished, only partially and adding new stuff is started simultaneously. Only reason for m

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Rolf Ahrenberg may or may not have written... [snip] > The completition of H.264 support would be nice to have in next stable > version. The H.264 support isn't related only to DVB-S2 as it's used > already in many DVB-C and DVB-T networks nowadays. Then there's DVB-T2, which we

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Theunis Potgieter
No On 03/02/2008, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been some controversy about my recent decision to > move forward and require the "multiproto" driver for VDR in > the developer version. It is also currently rather unclear > whether the current PES recording format can be

[vdr] XXV & UTF-8

2008-02-03 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
Hi! I'm trying to setup XXV (latest SVN version). Everything seems to run OK, except I could not see russian EPG and channel list. Texts look like: Title ЛУЧШИЕ КИНОТРЮКИ-2007 so they are HTML encoded. How to fix that? My system is Ubun

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Manu Abraham
Hi Patrick, Patrick Boettcher wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >>Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >>version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > With H264 support, because some DVB-T channels (at least here

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Pizzak
Yes for version 1.6.0 now :) --- Pizzak Administrator of vdr-italia wiki (http://vdr.spaghettilinux.org/) ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Helmut Auer
Hi > So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > No, The reason is really easy to explain: I am happy with a stable 1.4.7 and I have no problem using a developer

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Arthur Konovalov
Petri Helin wrote: > If the h.264 support is left out, it's a no. Same here. AK ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 02/03/08 20:30, Markku Virtanen wrote: > Hello Klaus! > > No. > > As it has been pointed out generally speaking "texting support" is not > complete and if new version is released now, it never will. By "texting support" I assume you mean teletext subtitles. Well, they won't be implemented be

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jörg Knitter
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Yes or No? > Yes. Although there have not been too many improvements, a lot of plugins had to be updated due to UTF-8 support etc. If you continue with huge things like H.264 and TS recording (yes, yes, yes :)), it might even take longer getting a new stable base f

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > By "texting support" I assume you mean teletext subtitles. > Well, they won't be implemented before DVB-S2/H.264 anyway. > So it doesn't really make much difference whether there is > a version 1.6.0 now ;-). > Implementing also ttxtsubs would be an enormous pro for

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Tobi
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > >From my point of view as a Debian maintainer: YES Tobias ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxt

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Tuomas Jormola
On 3 Feb 2008, at 12:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in > version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? No. I think the next stable version should have complete subtitling support (both DVB and teletext su

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Eddi De Pieri
> So, here's the straw poll: > >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? Yes, However, if most people will vote no, on upcoming version with you should allow user to build vdr without multip

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread VDR User
On Feb 3, 2008 10:47 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * if config files were about to be in XML ! (nah kidding) *g* That's got to be one of the worst ideas I've heard! :\ ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/l

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Malcolm Caldwell
My vote is yes. Release early, Release Often. Perhaps teletext subtitling is missing, however it was missing from 1.4 and so why not release. (Is there a teletext patch for those users who must have this functionality?. Or even better, can a teletext plugin be written) Also, reading between th

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jaakko Kemppainen
On Feb 3, 2008 12:17 PM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > Yes or No? > > Klaus Yet another scandinavian opinion for ttxtsupport here but if you're alr

Re: [vdr] new drivers

2008-02-03 Thread Tony Grant
Le samedi 02 février 2008 à 13:13 +0100, Hans Gustafsson a écrit : > I got rid of the xine blue screen/hang by downgrading libX11 and > libX11-devel to the ones from fedora 7 :) OK it works. It puts CPU usage up about 2-5%. I'll tell the openchrome and xine people. Cheers Tony -- _

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Jukka Vaisanen
I usually lurk here so my vote represents the 'user' community more than the 'dev'.. Yes to stable 1.6.0 with current kernel-drivers - VDR needs new users that can get it running easily out of the box with a debian bare bones install. The people who want HDTV support are going to go with the dev-r

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now?

2008-02-03 Thread Chris Ariyo
Hi, No, i vote to wait for the DVD-S2 and maybe if Klaus can integrate H.264. regards, Chris On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 11:17 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > There has been some controversy about my recent decision to > move forward and require the "multiproto" driver for VDR in > the developer ver

Re: [vdr] Straw poll: stable version 1.6.0 now ?

2008-02-03 Thread Igor
> >Should there be a stable version 1.6.0 now, based on what's in > >version 1.5.14, but without DVB-S2 or even H.264 support? > > > > Yes or No? No. I really want to see in VDR (stable and devel-versions) the fastest implementation the dvb-s2, h.264, ts-recording support. Igor. ___

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