Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-15 Thread Stone
On 10/9/07, VDR User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was hoping some of these ideas would have made it into the next release. But, since it didnt, does anyone have a patch put together? Best Regards. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-09 Thread VDR User
Yesturday I had the same problem where a very bad but short storm caused my signal to drop and vdr again performed an emergency exit when it wasn't wanted. I already commented out the EmergencyExit request in recorder.c but this time it was generated in remux.c by: if (!synced && skipped >= 0)

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-09 Thread Kartsa
Rainer Zocholl: > That's long time ago and IMHO only a problem on unmodded v1.3 cards or > "not perfect" ARM firmware at that time, 3 or more years ago > (At least i got rid of the problem by -expensive- upgrading to 2.0 cards. > (Someone interessted in 1.3 cards, 220E each?)). > (see http://vdr-w

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread Rainer Zocholl
[EMAIL PROTECTED](Ludwig Nussel) 01.10.07 14:28 >Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 09/29/07 09:30, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: >>> I don't know about it restarting. The crashing with loss of signal >>> is suposed to be a safe guard against creating blank recordings. >>> Seems like a bad idea to me to. J

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread Rainer Zocholl
[EMAIL PROTECTED](VDR User) 30.09.07 13:37 >On 9/30/07, Jouni Karvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> VDR User wrote: >>> I like these ideas... NO SIGNAL image in recording during no >>> signal. Or that if no signal then no writing to disk. And a >>> warning in the log about a possible incomplete r

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread VDR User
There are some great suggestions in the beginning of this thread, please let's not create a complicated solution where it's unnecessary to have one. Let the user decide the behavior he wants and leave it at that. No need/want for vdr to try auto-tuning this channel or that transponder, or emergen

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread Stone
> > > > > Maybe a solution for all the ideas in here ? Let vdr call a command and > decide based on exit status ? This could be simply set to /bin/false for > never restart or any sophisticated logic for everything else ? The main problem for me is that my reception is not that great. During ba

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread Steffen Barszus
Walter Koch schrieb: > Moin, > > >> The solution with three options sounds best: restart always, if no other >> (working) recordings, never. >> > > But this doesn't stop the "VDR started to restart itself every minute"- > problem completely. If there was already one emergency exit shortly >

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread Walter Koch
Moin, > The solution with three options sounds best: restart always, if no other > (working) recordings, never. But this doesn't stop the "VDR started to restart itself every minute"- problem completely. If there was already one emergency exit shortly before and the stream didn't come back, it do

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread Jouni Karvo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> How does that sound? > >> Complicated. And you did not even consider cases such as: ... > Because I've seen this restart cycle many times, and only way > out of it is editing via [your favorite editor] the timers.conf > file. I have seen the problem too. Just remov

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread jori.hamalainen
>> How does that sound? > Complicated. And you did not even consider cases such as: > The card is receiving perfectly another channel on the same mux, > so tuning to another mux would not be an option. This was the FIX1. Transponder = mux = 'kanavanippu'. The tests was for VDR to better und

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread Jouni Karvo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How does that sound? Complicated. And you did not even consider cases such as: The card is receiving perfectly another channel on the same mux, so tuning to another mux would not be an option. Although it is easy to add conditions like this to the code, it would mean

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-03 Thread jori.hamalainen
> What is point to that, that VDR do restart IF there is no > stream what it should record.. That affected to all other > recordings too because vdr was restarting itself constantly. > Not good! > Is there "setting" somewhere where you can say that "do not" > restart if there is no stream. This

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-02 Thread syrius . ml
Ludwig Nussel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> [...] > I wonder whether reloading modules is still an appropriate action. > Nowadays it's possible for example to bind/unbind drivers to/from > specific devices. Ie if you have multiple dvb-ttpci cards it should > be possible to reset a specific one.

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-10-01 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 09/29/07 09:30, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > > I don't know about it restarting. The crashing with loss of signal is > > suposed to be a safe guard against creating blank recordings. Seems like a > > bad idea to me to. Just delete the bad recordings, don't crash the system

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread VDR User
On 9/30/07, Jouni Karvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > VDR User wrote: > > I like these ideas... NO SIGNAL image in recording during no signal. > > Or that if no signal then no writing to disk. And a warning in the > > log about a possible incomplete recording cuz of lost signal + > > identified in

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Jouni Karvo
VDR User wrote: > I like these ideas... NO SIGNAL image in recording during no signal. > Or that if no signal then no writing to disk. And a warning in the > log about a possible incomplete recording cuz of lost signal + > identified in recordings menu by a special char like ? maybe. > I do no

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
] Not good behaviour from vdr I like the idea of appending the "?" symbol to every recording that triggers the "no signal" flag. Best Regards. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Stone
On 9/30/07, VDR User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like these ideas... NO SIGNAL image in recording during no signal. > Or that if no signal then no writing to disk. And a warning in the > log about a possible incomplete recording cuz of lost signal + > identified in recordings menu by a speci

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Udo Richter
JJussi wrote: > How about, when there is no stream - no writing to HD.. OK, if there is 15 > minutes break middle of stream, then recording "jump" those 15 minutes during > playback. To clear things up: Of course, if there's no stream for whatever reasons, VDR already does NOT write anything to

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread VDR User
I like these ideas... NO SIGNAL image in recording during no signal. Or that if no signal then no writing to disk. And a warning in the log about a possible incomplete recording cuz of lost signal + identified in recordings menu by a special char like ? maybe. These are all good options and woul

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Thomas Creutz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: > On 09/29/07 09:30, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: >> Locate the line in recorder.c and comment it out. >> >>esyslog("ERROR: video data stream broken"); >> - ShutdownHandler.RequestEmergencyExit(); >> + //

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Stone
On 9/30/07, JJussi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday, 30. Septemberta 2007 10:35:07 Stone wrote: > > Since the recording is scheduled, I would assume the user has room on > the > > disk (so disk space usage is not really the problem). The only problem > I > > can see is that you might get a

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Pasi Juppo
JJussi wrote: > On Sunday, 30. Septemberta 2007 10:35:07 Stone wrote: >> Since the recording is scheduled, I would assume the user has room on the >> disk (so disk space usage is not really the problem). The only problem I >> can see is that you might get a blank recording if the signal goes out (

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread JJussi
On Sunday, 30. Septemberta 2007 10:35:07 Stone wrote: > Since the recording is scheduled, I would assume the user has room on the > disk (so disk space usage is not really the problem). The only problem I > can see is that you might get a blank recording if the signal goes out (and > you think its

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-30 Thread Stone
Since the recording is scheduled, I would assume the user has room on the disk (so disk space usage is not really the problem). The only problem I can see is that you might get a blank recording if the signal goes out (and you think its recorded but its not). So, perhaps vdr should NOT do a emerg

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-29 Thread VDR User
Coincidently, I just had this "broken video stream" emergency exit the other day because of bad weather that came & went. I don't run some kind of auto-restart script so vdr stayed unloaded and coincidently caused several other timers to be missed. For those who would say 'just add auto-restart',

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-29 Thread Udo Richter
dom.plu wrote: > It can be interresting to use the emergency shutdown only when there are no > other records running at the same time Sounds like a good idea: Emergency exit on failing to record: * Never * Only if this doesn't break other recordings * Always Maybe this could even be based on reco

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-29 Thread dom.plu
Hi thanks for this future option, I have the same problem not caused directly by card or drivers but in a multiple frontend system (dvb-s + dvb-t) if at least one provider did not send signal , you loose all other concurrent records It can be interresting to use the emergency shutdown only when t

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-29 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 09/29/07 09:30, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: > I don't know about it restarting. The crashing with loss of signal is > suposed to be a safe guard against creating blank recordings. Seems like a > bad idea to me to. Just delete the bad recordings, don't crash the system. Well, let me just comment on t

Re: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-29 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
st" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:49 PM Subject: [vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr > Hi! > > Yesterday, here at Southern Finland one of the TV channels had "cut out" at > DVB stream (like half hour). And because that stream disapeared little after > than recoding

[vdr] Not good behaviour from vdr

2007-09-29 Thread JJussi
Hi! Yesterday, here at Southern Finland one of the TV channels had "cut out" at DVB stream (like half hour). And because that stream disapeared little after than recoding has started, VDR started to restart itself every minute because there was no stream... What is point to that, that VDR do re