Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-11 Thread Anssi Hannula
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I believe JJussi is mixing things up a bit. What he describes is >> audio subtitling, which YLE has chosen to send labelled as a Dutch >> audio track. It seems that they have started to use Dutch also for >> Finnish subtitling for Finnish spoken programs. > > They wou

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-11 Thread jori.hamalainen
> I believe JJussi is mixing things up a bit. What he describes is > audio subtitling, which YLE has chosen to send labelled as a Dutch > audio track. It seems that they have started to use Dutch also for > Finnish subtitling for Finnish spoken programs. They would have selected some African la

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 09 Mar 2008, at 23:54, Petri Helin wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >>> On 09 Mar 2008, at 21:32, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >>> On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > ... > Everything was OK in live mode (I got finnish subtitles as I

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Anssi Hannula
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: [...] >> changing pids of channel 8 from 514+514:670=eng:0:2321 to >> 514+514:670=eng:3028=sve,3027=fin:2321 >> >> and info.vdr: >> C C-0-1-5 YLE FST5 >> E 471 1205093700 3419 4E 10 >> T Jools Holland show >> S Brittiläistä musii

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >> On 09 Mar 2008, at 21:32, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> >>> On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: ... Everything was OK in live mode (I got finnish subtitles as I had selected them) but during replay I got swedis

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/09/08 22:09, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > On 09 Mar 2008, at 21:32, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >>> ... >>> Everything was OK in live mode (I got finnish subtitles as I had >>> selected them) but during replay I got swedish subtitles. If I >>> selected

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 09 Mar 2008, at 21:32, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Your patch didn't fix this problem although it changed behaviour. >> >> Subtitle language selection is now kind of inversed in replay mode. I >> mean that when I select finnish subtitles (su

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Petri Helin
Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > Hi, > > Your patch didn't fix this problem although it changed behaviour. > > Subtitle language selection is now kind of inversed in replay mode. I > mean that when I select finnish subtitles (suomi) I'll get swedish ones > (during finnish talk and nothing during swedish

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/09/08 20:17, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > Hi, > > Your patch didn't fix this problem although it changed behaviour. > > Subtitle language selection is now kind of inversed in replay mode. I > mean that when I select finnish subtitles (suomi) I'll get swedish ones > (during finnish talk and not

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-09 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
nt). - Kimmo Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/07/08 18:46, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > >> info.vdr is below. >> > > Your problem most likely has the same cause as the other one. > > Please try the patch I posted earlier today. > > Klaus > > >>

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 18:46, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > info.vdr is below. Your problem most likely has the same cause as the other one. Please try the patch I posted earlier today. Klaus > _ Alkuperäinen viesti _ > Aihe: Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles > Tekijä: "

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Markku Virtanen
Maybe slightly off topic, but plain cable digital receiver Topfield TF6000COC seems to get confused as well with this DUT-setting. Sometimes these subtitles gets activated by itself allthough not preselected. This "activation by itself" is fairly new "feature", because receiver has been working f

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
info.vdr is below. _ Alkuperäinen viesti _ Aihe: Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles Tekijä: "Klaus Schmidinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivämäärä: 7. maaliskuuta 2008 0:39:48 On 03/06/08 06:58, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > Klaus, > > I have sample

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 17:26, Petri Helin wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 03/07/08 06:21, JJussi wrote: >>> On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >>> The info.vdr file contains X 3 11 fin X 2 03 fin X 3 03 dut which indicates that audio is in F

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/07/08 06:21, JJussi wrote: >> On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> >>> The info.vdr file contains >>> >>> X 3 11 fin >>> X 2 03 fin >>> X 3 03 dut >>> >>> which indicates that audio is in Finnish, and there are two subtitle >>> tracks. The

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/06/08 06:58, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > Klaus, > > I have sample for the problem explained below. Do you want/need it? It > is unfortunately 68M and I don't know where to put it. Please try the patch I just posted in this thread. Klaus > On 04 Mar 2008, at 22:21, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >> I

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 06:21, JJussi wrote: > On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> The info.vdr file contains >> >> X 3 11 fin >> X 2 03 fin >> X 3 03 dut >> >> which indicates that audio is in Finnish, and there are two subtitle >> tracks. The one with type 03 looks like any oth

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 11:07, Jouni Karvo wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger kirjoitti: >> However, there still would be the problem that VDR couldn't even tell >> that the "dut" track is "for the hard of hearing", because it is not >> properly marked. >> >> Or am I missing something here? >> > > I think you are

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/07/08 12:26, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > >> None of these two is specified as "for the hard of hearing". > > Well, as Jouni already told, the Dutch is used here on YLE channels for > hard of hearing purposes. :) > >> Maybe this is what's causing

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Pertti Kosunen
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > I guess this kind of small change would be enough. IMO, the subtitles > should be shown only if a preferred language matches. I vote this for 1.6.0. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/lis

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread JJussi
On Friday, 7. Marchta 2008 00:37:06 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > The info.vdr file contains > > X 3 11 fin > X 2 03 fin > X 3 03 dut > > which indicates that audio is in Finnish, and there are two subtitle > tracks. The one with type 03 looks like any other subtitle > track I've seen so far, like T

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > From what I was able to see in the clip you provided, the "dut" track is there > from the very beginning (don't know if it actually contains Dutch texts, > though - my > guess would have been it is Finnish), and the "fin" track only appears when > t

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > None of these two is specified as "for the hard of hearing". Well, as Jouni already told, the Dutch is used here on YLE channels for hard of hearing purposes. :) > Maybe this is what's causing the problems here. While this makes sense for > audio,

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-07 Thread Jouni Karvo
Klaus Schmidinger kirjoitti: > However, there still would be the problem that VDR couldn't even tell > that the "dut" track is "for the hard of hearing", because it is not > properly marked. > > Or am I missing something here? > I think you are right - YLE uses "dut" for a synonym of "hearing i

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/06/08 06:58, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > Klaus, > > I have sample for the problem explained below. Do you want/need it? It > is unfortunately 68M and I don't know where to put it. For starters, can you please just post the info.vdr file of this recording? Klaus > On 04 Mar 2008, at 22:21, K

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/04/08 21:17, Petri Helin wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 03/04/08 19:55, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I switched recently to vdr 1.5 series and noticed an annoying feature/ >>> bug with DVB subtitles that was not present in vdr 1.4 series using >>> subtitles plugin. >>> >>

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread JJussi
On Thursday, 6. Marchta 2008 07:58:49 Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > Klaus, > > I have sample for the problem explained below. Do you want/need it? It > is unfortunately 68M and I don't know where to put it. > > Cheers, Kimmo Can you use vdr's cut feature and cut it to much shorter.. I gues that 30 seco

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-06 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
Klaus, I have sample for the problem explained below. Do you want/need it? It is unfortunately 68M and I don't know where to put it. Cheers, Kimmo On 04 Mar 2008, at 22:21, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > > I tested 1.5.17 without any patches and only plugin I used was > xineliboutput. I was lucky to

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-04 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 04 Mar 2008, at 22:21, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > > Another program (danish speaking series) from same channel. In live > mode I got finnish subtitle and in replay mode subtitles were in > swedish. > This case is not repeatable. As I now checked this recording the subtitles were in finnish. Pr

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-04 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 04 Mar 2008, at 21:17, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/04/08 19:55, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I switched recently to vdr 1.5 series and noticed an annoying >> feature/ >> bug with DVB subtitles that was not present in vdr 1.4 series using >> subtitles plugin. >> >> The problem is th

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-04 Thread Petri Helin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 03/04/08 19:55, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I switched recently to vdr 1.5 series and noticed an annoying feature/ >> bug with DVB subtitles that was not present in vdr 1.4 series using >> subtitles plugin. >> >> The problem is that the subtitles for hearing

Re: [vdr] Hearing-impaired DVB subtitles

2008-03-04 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03/04/08 19:55, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: > Hi, > > I switched recently to vdr 1.5 series and noticed an annoying feature/ > bug with DVB subtitles that was not present in vdr 1.4 series using > subtitles plugin. > > The problem is that the subtitles for hearing impaired people are > shown wh