Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-15 Thread Jay dedman
It's a full time living for quite a few people: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/business/media/11youtube.html I'm not quite there yet, but there's always hope! Yep, this is the article that everyone points to: YouTube declined to comment on how much money partners earned on average, partly

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Sullivan
“I was spending 40 hours a week on YouTube for over a year before I made a dime,” Mr. Buckley said “We wanted to turn these hobbies into businesses,” said Hunter Walk, a director of product management for the site, who called popular users like Mr. Buckley “unintentional media companies.”

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-14 Thread David Jones
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: So instead of relying on free commercial hosting sites, you'd have control. Not sure if many people want this control though. Youtube makes it so easy. Plus some people seem to actually be making money from Adsense

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Rupert Howe
On 10 Feb 2010, at 23:57, David Jones wrote: Sure, but that whole argument is such a big red herring and so entirely beside the point it's not funny! His argument was not beside the point. It was about people using videoblogging for more than talking to the camera. Which is what quite a

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread adammerc...@att.net
Dave you seem to have a lot of respect in this group so i'll refrain from ripping you a new one wink and just say this. If you bothered to read my original post before getting your pompous high and might knickers in a twist you'd have noticed that I too share this marvelous thing you call

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Adrian Miles
hi all On 11/02/2010, at 8:13 PM, adammerc...@att.net wrote: Also there is the question of bandwidth and I've had this argument with several people, and I'm often in the minority. But i believe my position so I stand by it. Bandwidth is not free, contrary to popular opinion. Someone

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Rupert Howe
Good story :) I used this argument last time we had the HD discussion - it died without comment, except from Adam. Apart from the waste of energy unnecessary cost that someone will have to pick up somewhere, we *will* face repercussions from unnecessary use of huge HD video files. Cisco

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Kath O'Donnell
My ISP here in our London office has started throttling our ADSL broadband - presumably because we use lots of video. Upload speeds have died - it took me 45 minutes to upload a 30mb video yesterday. welcome to the Australian way.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Adrian Miles
hi Rupert On 11/02/2010, at 9:36 PM, Rupert Howe wrote: Certainly, in my book this is another big reason why it's not OK to tell people they shouldn't be shooting in low resolutions. If you don't need to use HD (and why do you need to use HD for personal / family videoblogging like Adam I

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread elbowsofdeath
Actually if you use older camera technology and go above 320x240 then you are at risk of running into interlacing issues. This isnt a problem if your editing encoding software can deinterlace and you understand the issue, but certainly when vloggers first started experimenting with 640x480 I

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread mgmoon
Originally (2006) I produced videos 320x240 @15fps. I was more conscious 4 years ago about file size. I imagined Blip blowing up with files being anything larger. :) Since then I've settled in on 480x272 as my standard output rez (16:9). If I have 4:3 video I'll normally output to 480x360. I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Jay dedman
Originally (2006) I produced videos 320x240 @15fps. I was more conscious 4 years ago about file size. I imagined Blip blowing up with files being anything larger. :) Since then I've settled in on 480x272 as my standard output rez (16:9). If I have 4:3 video I'll normally output to 480x360.

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread elbowsofdeath
I would guess that its partly the extra work the publisher has to go through like you say, but also some other technical issues to do with how the plugin works in practice, along with whatever the story is regarding what happened to ShowInABox and other video module plugins that it tried to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread David Jones
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:13 PM, adammerc...@att.net adammerc...@att.net wrote: Dave you seem to have a lot of respect in this group I doubt it, I'm pretty much a newbie. I'm just loud and say what I think, and well, some people don't like that. They don't like to hear differing opinions to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread David Jones
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: That being said, David's work at http://www.eevblog.com/ is extremely appealing to a very specific group of people. Someone who likes to take apart electronics will wait to download the HD version if that's their only

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Rupert Howe
OK, this is my last post on this subject, because you haven't engaged with any of my arguments. But I must point out that you've changed your opinion from the statement that started all this in the first place. You just said to Adam: Once again, I was speaking about low res in general, not

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Jay dedman
HD is not their only choice. I use an embedded YouTube player which defaults to 360p, the user must then manually chose 480p or 720p if they way higher res. If they subscribe to my podcast with iTunes or whatever they get a separate 480x272 version. About half my audience subscribe and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Chad F. Boeninger
If only YouTube offered uploading of custom thumnails and more options for branding and player customization. Just having 3 thumbnails to choose from is silly.  Blip.TV doesn't have the same quality of flash embeds, but its   features still win out for me over YouTube.  YouTube does have better

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-11 Thread Jay dedman
I would guess that its partly the extra work the publisher has to go through like you say, but also some other technical issues to do with how the plugin works in practice, along with whatever the story is regarding what happened to ShowInABox and other video module plugins that it tried to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-10 Thread Rupert Howe
TOTALLY disagree, but you know this already from earlier discussions. You are doing a very different kind of videoblog from what most people do - it's great that you love doing it in HD, but I really really strongly disagree that Any video blogger who is filming and/or uploading in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-10 Thread Adrian Miles
hi all absolutely disagree. On 10/02/2010, at 6:49 PM, David Jones wrote: If you follow that logic to its logical conclusion, then why have a video blog at all?, why not just an audio podcast? Or at least why not 160x120 for even more bandwidth saving and speed? if you follow that logic to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-10 Thread Tom Dolan
Hi Dave, What $400 cam did you buy? Curious that's all. Tom On Feb 9, 2010, at 11:49 PM, David Jones wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM, adammerc...@att.net adammerc...@att.net wrote: Call me old school, but I still publish my vlog in 320x240. For a couple of reasons. My old Flip

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-10 Thread David Jones
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, What $400 cam did you buy? Curious that's all. Sanyo Xacti HD1010 It's been discussed on here many times now. Dave.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-10 Thread Tom Dolan
Thanx. Tom On Feb 10, 2010, at 1:37 PM, David Jones wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, What $400 cam did you buy? Curious that's all. Sanyo Xacti HD1010 It's been discussed on here many times now. Dave. Tom Dolan

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-10 Thread tom_a_sparks
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... wrote: hi all absolutely disagree. On 10/02/2010, at 6:49 PM, David Jones wrote: If you follow that logic to its logical conclusion, then why have a video blog at all?, why not just an audio podcast? Or at least

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-10 Thread David Jones
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au wrote: if you follow that logic to its logical conclusion then why be online at all and instead be in a cinema, or project via some hi-rez system against a wall in an installation? Because online is the distribution medium

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-09 Thread adammerc...@att.net
Call me old school, but I still publish my vlog in 320x240. For a couple of reasons. My old Flip shoots at 640x480 and at the native size its pretty crummy. Scaled to quarter screen it tightens up and cleans up the noise considerably. Also theres nothing in my vlog that needs to be seen at HD

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-09 Thread Rupert Howe
No - you're right - Blip have earned loyalty with great features service. Despite earlier praise for YT, I can see myself continuing to use Blip for personal videoblogging. But according to their ToS, they prohibit pretty much any commercial use that's not creation of a Show: Content

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-09 Thread David Jones
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM, adammerc...@att.net adammerc...@att.net wrote: Call me old school, but I still publish my vlog in 320x240. For a couple of reasons. My old Flip shoots at 640x480 and at the native size its pretty crummy. Scaled to quarter screen it tightens up and cleans up

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-08 Thread Heath
Oh, I just had to comment on this, for me I will always use Blip as long as they are around and as long as they contiue to provide the excellent customer service they have been known for. A few different reasons why, one - when all the other video sites, including YT had crappy TOS's, crappy

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-08 Thread tom_a_sparks
the bad old days of dial-up when to view videos you had to download them or watch streaming video at 160x120 cell/mobile phone record video at 320x240 320x240 is still being used if the upload from you home-server is substandarded like in australia :( tom --- In

[videoblogging] Re: Remember when it was all 320x240?

2010-02-06 Thread elbowsofdeath
To be honest I dont remember computers choking on 320x240 4 years ago. I know that around 5 years ago when Apple put some 720p H.264 videos on their website quite a lot of computers struggled to handle it. I guess bandwidth and procesing power are still issues, which along with device