AMSubject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:47:07 +0100, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of the vloggy vastness... what up with the book of vlog?is that still being compiled?
As far as I know it got picked up by a new publisher
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In an interview (podcast) with Michael Verdi, they talked about six
different books on vlogging being in the works.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
Do you have a link for the
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:57:28 +0100, Matthew Clayfield
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I'm going to be writing my postgraduate theses on videoblogging, just
for the record.
I'm putting finishing touches (okay, last minute frantic writing) on a
paper about videoblogging right now (in Danish,
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe we should create a place to geek out?
Most definitely.
In fact, perhaps the two of us should start a new Yahoo group? We
could call (however unoriginally) Vlog Theory.
that's interesting
may i ask who is sponsoring your work?
Matthew Clayfield wrote:
I'm going to be writing my postgraduate theses on videoblogging, just
for the record.
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My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us
http://apperceptions.org
http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In an interview (podcast) with Michael Verdi, they talked about six
different books on vlogging being in the works.
Randolfe
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe we should create a place to geek out?
Most definitely.
In fact, perhaps the two of us should start a new
On 12/16/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a job, Will be graduating next week and then going full time...so there is my jobas for my life...Well I have a full and fulfilling life...oh yeah, I almost forgot. To the rest of the in-crowd: we have a meeting next weekend in NYC where
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that's interesting
may i ask who is sponsoring your work?
At present, no one. I start my postgrad. degree in February and will
be working around the clock to support myself.
Yahoo!
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:41:07 +0100, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe we should create a place to geek out?
Most definitely.
In fact, perhaps the two of us should start a new Yahoo
On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:30 PM, Michael I wrote:Uh not to flog a dead horse but I remember some time back when Josh Leo loudly said the same thing...same song, same arugement. Is this something that should be addressed? I do not know the complete tift here but reading Manchessemo's complaint here
Phenomenal response! Lets bring this together, expose the trials and triumphs. Your only as good as the tools provided and your only as good as the people around you. What can be done to neutralize the negative emotions around this subject? Is this a medium that can change perception? How
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Street Journal: Videoblogging
Phenomenal response!Lets bring this together,
expose the trials and triumphs.Your only as good as the tools provided and
your only as good as the people around you. What can be don
] Re: Wall
Street Journal: Videoblogging
For the record, I don't ever want a *job and yes, vlogging
*is in most respects my life. I've been working toward creating things that
are served by what vlogging offers since I was but a wee lass in saddle
shoes.
If you feel on the outside
I always appreciate hearing Jan's voice of sanity. I'm the laughing woman, who would be laughing more had anything of substance I told the reporter showed up in the piece. Don't get me wrong -- any publicity is good publicity. The traffic spike has been just enough to tick off my host and
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice to hear about some new videobloggers in these articles.
Yeah, totally. I think we need to start highlighting unknown vloggers
on our blogs, send the love around :) I mentioned a few lesser known
vlogs to the
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice to hear about some new videobloggers in these articles.
Feather on my own cap: I did mention the laughing practice woman to
her, so that's one unknown vlogger I promoted successfully :)
The idea behind
of course.
seems to be an A-List of vloggers, evangelists, services that are
repeatedly
mentioned over and over. I suppose this makes sense for the latter
groups but its def good to see new vloggers getting attention... The
variety is usually good... from rboom to laughterpractice.
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:27:56 +0100, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Reporters are busy (ie. lazy) ;) Whatever vlogs you mention to them
they will probably check out, so make sure you can mention a few
unknown ones :)
C'mone on, give them a little credit. :o)
Their boss probably only
speaking of the vloggy vastness... what up with the book of vlog? is that still being compiled?On 12/16/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:27:56 +0100, petertheman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Reporters are busy (ie. lazy) ;) Whatever vlogs you mention to
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:47:07 +0100, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
speaking of the vloggy vastness... what up with the book of vlog? is
that
still being compiled?
As far as I know it got picked up by a new publisher and is currently
being (re)written.
- Andreas
--
they also have limited capacity
the more you tell them, the less likely they are to get it all correct
or pick the important points
i've learned to curb my enthusiasm and stick to just a few basic points
petertheman wrote:
of course.
seems to be an A-List of vloggers,
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I love Vlog Soup Steve, Love it :)
me too. Vlogsoup rocks. Totally.
Peter
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http://mefeedia.com - Now supports easy revlogging with BlogThis!
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--
Having said that, I do think that FireANT (on the Mac at least)
could have a much larger directory of feeds to choose from, and
perhaps an 'activate' checkbox... I'm thinking of the huge list
available in standard aggregators like NetNewsWire. Would be a
nice touch and appear less like a
More shameless self-promotion by Garfield.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus I sent her to Vlog Soup which highlights a lot of new vloggers
each episode.
http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/vlog_soup/index.html
On Dec 16, 2005, at
It sure does get old reading what is basically the same article. My
resolution for the New Year is to unsubscribe and boycott the
following: Rocketboom, Garfield, Jay/Ryannne, Verdi and Josh Leo.
None of them are great. Sure they're decent, but they sure don't
deserve the hype over anyone else.
dear dude
fuck you.
On 12/16/05, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It sure does get old reading what is basically the same article. My
resolution for the New Year is to unsubscribe and boycott the
following: Rocketboom, Garfield, Jay/Ryannne, Verdi and Josh Leo.
None of them are great.
Haha, at least when mefeedia gets mentioned it's a boon for all... We
need to keep focusing on driving traffic to everyone in the
vlogosphere. Especially the newbies... and yeah even the porn stars.
LOL! :)
OK. maybe not the pornstars, unless of course you mean naked Verdi.
Sorry, couldn't
I didn't see FireAnt mentioned in those articles... though it would
have been nice.
Journalists repeat articles and press releases ad nauseum. That's just
the way it is.
Though I do think that the videoblogs we've seen metioned consistently
are deserving of the attention they receive.
I'm going
I choose to think of it as selflessly promoting other vloggers.
On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:10 PM, ManCheeseMo wrote:
More shameless self-promotion by Garfield.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Plus I sent her to Vlog Soup which highlights a lot of
Wow how Did I get included here? I have been in one article by name once... just as much as people like Beth Agnew, Erin Nealy, Phil Hamilton, Serra Shiflet, Amy Carpenter, Josh Kopin and many more...better start adding them to your boycott list...I mean after all They all probably suck too
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am glad there is no single 'Adam Curry' figure of the videoblogging
world. Judging by the sensitivity and flames that can come out of such
discussions by videobloggers on topics such as motive, fame, ego,
money
Uh, how original. What exactly am I promoting? I don't even have a
vlog to promote yet.
My point is that the good ol' boy network gets old. If you are
buddies with the FireANT crew or if you're one of the pre-populated
vlogs, you'll get extra attention.
There are people on this board that
Pimpin' your ideas.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Uh, how original. What exactly am I promoting? I don't even have a
vlog to promote yet.
My point is that the good ol' boy network gets old. If you are
buddies with the FireANT crew or if
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I am glad there is no single 'Adam Curry' figure of the videoblogging
world. Judging by the sensitivity and flames that can come out of
Again... was FireAnt mentioned in an article I'm not aware of?
If it was, please send me a link.
-josh
On 12/16/05, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uh, how original. What exactly am I promoting? I don't even have a
vlog to promote yet.
My point is that the good ol' boy network gets
they are certainly doing great things, as are many others here
i have been interviewed by several reporters and i always point out
these folks and will continue to do so (and, yes, it is often the case
that i don't end up in the article - BFD!)
if you do anything as significant as they do,
The reason I include FireANT is because of how they pre-populated
their friends' vlogs. It feels like a cheap way to promote the
in-crowd and rather unethical.
And of course the comeback will be that the new directory is coming,
but that has been said for months. Until the day it comes out,
I have a job, Will be graduating next week and then going full time...so there is my jobas for my life...Well I have a full and fulfilling life...oh yeah, I almost forgot. To the rest of the in-crowd: we have a meeting next weekend in NYC where we will be discussing self-promotion,
Don't feed the trolls.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The reason I include FireANT is because of how they pre-populated
their friends' vlogs. It feels like a cheap way to promote the
in-crowd and rather unethical.
And of course the comeback will
wow i rember when some one was crying he missed the boat..
From: Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:30:19 -0500
I have
has it occurred to you that this *is* some people's job?
sounds like sour grapes to me
ManCheeseMo wrote:
There are people on this board that seem to have no job other than
promoting themselves and their friends.
IMHO, many in this group live inside a bubble where vlogging is
everything to
Empathy:http://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/04/vlog-on-vlog.htmlOn 12/16/05, ManCheeseMo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The reason I include FireANT is because of how they pre-populated
their friends' vlogs.It feels like a cheap way to promote thein-crowd and rather unethical.And of course the comeback
ManCheeseMo wrote:
Watch, now one of the connected moderators will probably ban me from
this group. Hasn't that happened to others who disgree with the cool
people?
actually no
you generally have to first violate the terms of use statements that you
have agreed to
--
My name is Markus
i thought jay was the vlogfather
i could have sworn i saw a picture ;)
ManCheeseMo wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am glad there is no single 'Adam Curry' figure of the videoblogging
world. Judging by the
On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:09 PM, ManCheeseMo wrote:
Uh, how original. What exactly am I promoting? I don't even have a
vlog to promote yet.
Therin is the problem and solution... Dude! you have to vlog! it's
liberating.
This perception you have of people promoting them and their
I did moan about that issue a long time ago, I am disappointed it has
taken so long to sort out. Im quite willing to believe its not
malicious or cheap promotion or anything sinister, but simply a
historical thing that never got sorted out. The amount of time taken
to fix the issue could be read
you must be a mac user or you wouldn't bring this up
I've used both mac and windows
windows version comes with big list, mac with small
mac was easier to start with
i liked it that the list started small and then i grew it through my
own discovery process
I've got 233 feeds now in
If he is doing a great job of being a troll, you and others responses
to his points have suceeded in pushing me towards defending him and
indeed siding with him.
I was simply stating that this issue was discussed here a long time
ago, and that I was one of the people who moaned about it. It fell
David Jr! I got an email from him self promoting himself this morning!:DAVIDJR.COM/TV SEASON 1 (7 episodes, running 27 minutes each)
HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SHOW - I'D LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK - PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD!We had a nice little chat a few weeks back about his videosI gave him my
You need to chill out man.
Please read Steven Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People where he
says, Seek First To Understand.
I DID NOT suggest to the reporter anything about being the vlogfather.
Clark ov Saturn is that.
Do some original research of your own. Contact the reporter.
i'm the vodfather. you can be the vlogfather.clark can be the Fredo.deal?On 12/16/05, Steve Garfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You need to chill out man.Please read Steven Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People where he
says, Seek First To Understand.I DID NOT suggest to the reporter
Actually, in this case, I do believe it was actually more than a month
from inception to publication...
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:27:56 +0100, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a good point, and humbling to me... we don't need no stinkin'
press...
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Josh has earned the right to be well watched and well
respected... that pretty much goes for
Actually, then, personally I have heard the vlogfather reference three
times--Steve Garfield, Clark ov Saturn, and Jay Dedman.
And I love every single one of them.
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In
ooh! ooh! can I be on vlog soup too?
:)
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus I sent her to Vlog Soup which highlights a lot of new vloggers
each episode.
If you don't have a vlog, then where are your legs? Because you don't
seem to have any to stand on.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Uh, how original. What exactly am I promoting? I don't even have a
vlog to promote yet.
My point is that the good
That's right--just because you have a crappy attitude about a member
list in ant that was created months and months ago, let's push out a
non-complete build that could possibly be buggy and turn away an
audience that might really get into vlogging otherwise. Great idea.
Susan
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:47:07 +0100, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
speaking of the vloggy vastness... what up with the book of vlog? is
that
still being compiled
*choke*
Markus, did you just admit that something was better in the Windows
version?
:)
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you must be a mac user or you wouldn't bring this up
I've used both mac and windows
windows
no, actually i find the mac version much easier to use
Susan wrote:
*choke*
Markus, did you just admit that something was better in the Windows
version?
:)
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you must be a mac user or
Not quite the idea. I meant that FireANT could take the exising live
build, strip it of the pre-populated feeds and release a 1.0b4
version. There would be no bugs that do not already exisit, which has
nothing to do with the up and coming release. Besides, the whole
issue of pre-populated feeds
On Dec 16, 2005, at 4:30 PM, ManCheeseMo wrote:
I meant that FireANT could take the exising live
build, strip it of the pre-populated feeds and release a 1.0b4
version. There would be no bugs that do not already exisit, which has
nothing to do with the up and coming release.
The only
snarkMaybe it could be populated it with Davidjr merchandise links? :-)/snarkWhat is the problem with people getting press for lots of hard work? What is the problem with having a set directory? I added my feed and several others quite easily, and it is just as simple to delete them. A seniority
lity
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
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Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 2:18
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Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street
Journal: Videoblogging
I had my first experience with the win version the other night when I
installed it for a friend. It really is a different package than the
Mac version. It's seems to be more advanced and feature rich. But I
think thats due to the fact that they've put more time into developing
the Win version not
Uh not to flog a dead horse but I remember some time back when Josh Leo loudly said the same thing...same song, same arugement. Is this something that should be addressed? I do not know the complete tift here but reading Manchessemo's complaint here has been metioned numerous times. Why is
Although I haven't followed this thread from the start... I do have
to agree that ManCheeseMo has a point although it seems somewhat
misguided. I do imagine that FireANT's pre-loaded set of the first
wave vloggers did provide them with a leg-up in building an audience.
I don't consider
On Dec 16, 2005, at 7:09 PM, Josh Wolf wrote:
To give you an example, I was interviewed about Current TV prior to
the launch by Salon magazine. This article prompted the AP, Knight
Ridder, The Wall Street Journal, TIME and others to contact me and
inquire about my thoughts on Current TV.
Actually Verdi if she was writing for the business section, the hook
might be a little more econ-orientated than TV Stardom with $20 a
day -- more like, promote your product to the internet using this
handy dandy new thing called a vlog I'm surprised Keven Tredau's
website doesn't
And That is why Daniel pleaded to put some vlogs in there in the first
place. However now it is a different matter. There are lots of vlogs
to choose from. When Daniel made that there were only a handful, right?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 16,
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