Re: [videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread robert a/k/a r
Matt, yeah, health is of course of paramount importance.

What NYC hotels should we avoid, sounds like you have had a bad  
experience in NYC.

Let's make visits as safe/comfortable as possible for out-of-town  
visitors, eh, please share with us your bad-hotel list.



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 wrote:

 Any tips on hotels closest to the main venue(s)?

 On 12/6/05, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://hotels.travelocity.com/hotel/World/United-States/New-York/New-
 York-City-Hotels/

 The first three hotels listed (Wellington, Park Central, Metro)
 are all
 located in very central areas on Manhattan. I can't say I've ever
 stayed any of those three, because I have not, so you might want to
 check them out to ensure they meet your requirements before
 booking. If
 you want to pay up a bit the W hotels are typically good (been those)
 and the W bar scene(s) is almost always very good.



 On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:02 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:



 On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote:

 I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers
 thingy
 in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera
 battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which
 kind of
 adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap
 accomodation would be over there and how I would find it

 Cheap hotel run USD 150, sometimes you can find a USD125
 accommodation
 if you look hard. First check the usual places (i.e.,
 travelocity and
 expedia), if I have time I'll dig up a few budget-oriented
 places and
 post them for you'll who are coming to town.


 I also have
 the trip from JFK to new york to worry about

 If you want to economise, there are buses. I don't know the exact
 figure but it's relatively inexpensive. Lots of folks travel to/from
 the int'l airports (JFK and EWR) on the cheap and survive it.


 and then where I will
 stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and
 or buses
 or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being
 able to
 drive on the left hand side of the road.  So any ideas.

 There is absolutely no reason to rent a car, put that thought out of
 your mind. Public transport will get you around just fine.






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[videoblogging] And speaking of rendez-vous...

2005-12-07 Thread robert a/k/a r
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Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Paul Knight
je nes ce pas!
On 7 Dec 2005, at 08:00, robert a/k/a r wrote:

x-tad-biggerQui est le rendez-vous?

/x-tad-bigger
On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:19 AM, Ted Tagami wrote:

Any tips on hotels closest to the main venue(s)?

On 12/6/05, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:http://hotels.travelocity.com/hotel/World/United-States/New-York/New- 
 York-City-Hotels/>

 The first three hotels listed (Wellington, Park Central, Metro) are all  
 located in very central areas on Manhattan. I can't say I've ever  
 stayed any of those three, because I have not, so you might want to  
 check them out to ensure they meet your requirements before booking. If  
 you want to pay up a bit the W hotels are typically good (been those)  
 and the W bar scene(s) is almost always very good.



 On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:02 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:

 >
 >
 > On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote:
 >
 >> I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers thingy
 >>> in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera
 >>> battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which kind of
 >>> adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap
 >>> accomodation would be over there and how I would find it
 >
 > Cheap hotel run USD 150, sometimes you can find a USD125 accommodation
 > if you look hard. First check the usual places (i.e., travelocity and
 > expedia), if I have time I'll dig up a few budget-oriented places and
 > post them for you'll who are coming to town.
 >
 >
 >>> I also have
 >>> the trip from JFK to new york to worry about
 >
 > If you want to economise, there are buses. I don't know the exact
 > figure but it's relatively inexpensive. Lots of folks travel to/from
 > the int'l airports (JFK and EWR) on the cheap and survive it.
 >
 >
 >>> and then where I will
 >>> stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses
 >>> or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to
 >>> drive on the left hand side of the road.  So any ideas.
 >
 > There is absolutely no reason to rent a car, put that thought out of
 > your mind. Public transport will get you around just fine.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Yahoo! Groups Links
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 >
 >
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Re: [videoblogging] (another) vlog software !

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Paul Knight
I'll only doss if someone has a spare room.  

On 7 Dec 2005, at 06:04, Ted Tagami wrote:

um, yum. Maybe I'll just bring a sleeping bag and hit a hostel...

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 > 
> On 12/6/05, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > >
 > > 
 http://hotels.travelocity.com/hotel/World/United-States/New-York/New-
 > > York-City-Hotels/>
 > >
 > > The first three hotels listed (Wellington, Park Central, Metro)
 are all
 > > located in very central areas on Manhattan. I can't say I've ever
 > > stayed any of those three, because I have not, so you might want to
 > > check them out to ensure they meet your requirements before
 booking. If
 > > you want to pay up a bit the W hotels are typically good (been those)
 > > and the W bar scene(s) is almost always very good.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:02 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:
 > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote:
 > > >
 > > >> I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers
 thingy
 > > >>> in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera
 > > >>> battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which
 kind of
 > > >>> adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap
 > > >>> accomodation would be over there and how I would find it
 > > >
 > > > Cheap hotel run USD 150, sometimes you can find a USD125
 accommodation
 > > > if you look hard. First check the usual places (i.e.,
 travelocity and
 > > > expedia), if I have time I'll dig up a few budget-oriented
 places and
 > > > post them for you'll who are coming to town.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >>> I also have
 > > >>> the trip from JFK to new york to worry about
 > > >
 > > > If you want to economise, there are buses. I don't know the exact
 > > > figure but it's relatively inexpensive. Lots of folks travel to/from
 > > > the int'l airports (JFK and EWR) on the cheap and survive it.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >>> and then where I will
 > > >>> stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and
 or buses
 > > >>> or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being
 able to
 > > >>> drive on the left hand side of the road.  So any ideas.
 > > >
 > > > There is absolutely no reason to rent a car, put that thought out of
 > > > your mind. Public transport will get you around just fine.
 > > >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Ted Tagami



If it was summertime we could have a *real* camp :DOn 12/7/05, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:I'll only doss if someone has a spare room.On 7 Dec 2005, at 06:04, Ted Tagami wrote:
um, yum. Maybe I'll just bring a sleeping bag and hit a hostel... On 12/6/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:Don't let the bed bugs bite.
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videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Any tips on hotels closest to the main venue(s)?  On 12/6/05, robert a/k/a r 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   http://hotels.travelocity.com/hotel/World/United-States/New-York/
 New-  York-City-Hotels/   The first three hotels listed (Wellington, Park Central, Metro)are all  located in very central areas on Manhattan. I can't say I've ever
  stayed any of those three, because I have not, so you might want to  check them out to ensure they meet your requirements beforebooking. If  you want to pay up a bit the W hotels are typically good (been
 those)  and the W bar scene(s) is almost always very good. On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:02 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:
On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote: I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers
thingy   in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera   battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which
kind of   adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap   accomodation would be over there and how I would find it  
   Cheap hotel run USD 150, sometimes you can find a USD125accommodation   if you look hard. First check the usual places (i.e.,travelocity and
   expedia), if I have time I'll dig up a few budget-orientedplaces and   post them for you'll who are coming to town.
   I also have   the trip from JFK to new york to worry about If you want to economise, there are buses. I don't know the
 exact   figure but it's relatively inexpensive. Lots of folks travel to/from   the int'l airports (JFK and EWR) on the cheap and survive it.
   and then where I will   stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs andor buses
   or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only beingable to   drive on the left hand side of the road. So any ideas.  
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Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Jan McLaughlin
What main venues, Ted? Or did I miss something?

Don't think it's quite gotten that far as yet.

Manhattan is darned small, sono worries.

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On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:19 AM, Ted Tagami wrote:

  Any tips on hotels closest to the main venue(s)?

 On 12/6/05, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 wrote:http://hotels.travelocity.com/hotel/World/United-States/New- 
 York/New-
  York-City-Hotels/

  The first three hotels listed (Wellington, Park Central, Metro) are  
 all 
  located in very central areas on Manhattan. I can't say I've ever 
  stayed any of those three, because I have not, so you might want to 
  check them out to ensure they meet your requirements before booking.  
 If 
  you want to pay up a bit the W hotels are typically good (been  
 those) 
  and the W bar scene(s) is almost always very good.



  On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:02 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:

  
  
   On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote:
  
   I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers  
 thingy
   in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera
   battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which kind  
 of
   adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap
   accomodation would be over there and how I would find it
  
   Cheap hotel run USD 150, sometimes you can find a USD125  
 accommodation
   if you look hard. First check the usual places (i.e., travelocity  
 and
   expedia), if I have time I'll dig up a few budget-oriented places  
 and
   post them for you'll who are coming to town.
  
  
   I also have
   the trip from JFK to new york to worry about
  
   If you want to economise, there are buses. I don't know the exact
   figure but it's relatively inexpensive. Lots of folks travel  
 to/from
   the int'l airports (JFK and EWR) on the cheap and survive it.
  
  
   and then where I will
   stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or  
 buses
   or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being  
 able to
   drive on the left hand side of the road.  So any ideas.
  
   There is absolutely no reason to rent a car, put that thought out  
 of
   your mind. Public transport will get you around just fine.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Jay dedman
 I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers thingy
   in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera
   battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which kind of
   adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap
   accomodation would be over there and how I would find it, I also have
   the trip from JFK to new york to worry about and then where I will
   stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses
   or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to
   drive on the left hand side of the road.  So any ideas.

just to be clear...
we are still making arrangements for Vloggecon.
the challnge is finding an affordable space that will fit 200+ people.
it looks like we willneed to charge money for sign up to cover costs.
we are shooting for a weekend between late april and early June.

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Re: [videoblogging] bloggerheads.tv

2005-12-07 Thread Jay dedman
 There is a feed:
 http://bloggingheads.tv/rss.php
 WMV enclosures

does this work for you...for soem reason its not leting me subscribe to it.

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Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Josh Leo



I think that it is going to be like a giant pilrgramedge of vloggers to
NYV, everyoone who can come will, al the videos of al the meetups all
over the place have made those who have never attended one feel a
little left out...this is their time to connect with people. I think a
covre price of anything under 50 bucks would be ok with me! I am so
excited for voggerconOn 12/7/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers thingy in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which kind of
 adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap accomodation would be over there and how I would find it, I also have the trip from JFK to new york to worry about and then where I will
 stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to drive on the left hand side of the road.So any ideas.
just to be clear...we are still making arrangements for Vloggecon.the challnge is finding an affordable space that will fit 200+ people.it looks like we willneed to charge money for sign up to cover costs.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...

2005-12-07 Thread Jay dedman
 So, often lately I discover myself thinking of what kind of vlogs
 should I do to get into the list of most watched, the in crowd,
 the known guys instead of just what do i want to tell that day...
 and that makes me sad, and I feel bad, like I am not being honest with
 my art... it feels rotten.

yeah, just do what you like.
no one's payign you so you got to have fun.
people like to wacth someone enjoying himself.

 What kind of people are watching videos?
 What kind of content is succesfull?
 Should I just concentrate on doing my stuff instead of worring about hits?
 Where am I going with all this?

you already know the answers.

 Sorry about the long post. Ey, how do I know how many people download
 my videos?

whats your URL?

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Re: [videoblogging] bloggerheads.tv

2005-12-07 Thread T.Whid
I subbed using TVTonic and it worked fine, downloaded speedily and etc..

It's valid according to feed validator:
http://tinyurl.com/7qfdo

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[videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...

2005-12-07 Thread escorial1967
Jay, there you go:

http://onethousanddreams.blogspot.com/


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  So, often lately I discover myself thinking of what kind of vlogs
  should I do to get into the list of most watched, the in crowd,
  the known guys instead of just what do i want to tell that day...
  and that makes me sad, and I feel bad, like I am not being honest with
  my art... it feels rotten.
 
 yeah, just do what you like.
 no one's payign you so you got to have fun.
 people like to wacth someone enjoying himself.
 
  What kind of people are watching videos?
  What kind of content is succesfull?
  Should I just concentrate on doing my stuff instead of worring about hits?
  Where am I going with all this?
 
 you already know the answers.
 
  Sorry about the long post. Ey, how do I know how many people download
  my videos?
 
 whats your URL?
 
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RE: [videoblogging] video release for kids

2005-12-07 Thread Beth Kanter
Title: Message





I 
haven't seen one specific to vlogs, but if you take a look at examples of 
schools acceptable use policies for the Internet if might give you something to 
adapt.

Here's 
some links:

Policies for Student Use of the Internet (it is an old article, but 
explains what it is in it)
http://www.fno.org/fnomay95.html

Articles and Examples
http://www.monroe.lib.in.us/~lchampel/netadv3.html

Finally, Read/Write Web is one of the better edtech blogs about blogging, 
etc. You might want to email Richard McManus or search his 
blog.
http://www.readwriteweb.com/

Also 
Anne Davis writes about this issue:
http://anne.teachesme.com/-- email 
her for advice

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  I'm managing for teens in NYC,kids' parents need to sign a release giving 
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  they signed, I think weneed more comprehensive release. Is there a good 
  example out there?These kids are making blogs and posting images and 
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[videoblogging] Ponzi and Pirillo videoblog

2005-12-07 Thread Pete Prodoehl

Chris Pirillo and Ponzi (of Lockergnome) have a videoblog:

   http://ponzi.pirillo.com/

They even have two feeds, one with mp4:

   http://feeds.pirillo.com/PonziAndPirillo

and one with WMV:

   http://feeds.pirillo.com/PonziAndPirilloWMV


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...

2005-12-07 Thread Jay dedman
 Jay, there you go:
 http://onethousanddreams.blogspot.com/

im subscribed and am downloading.

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Re: [videoblogging] video release for kids

2005-12-07 Thread Randolfe Wicker





Current TV has all sorts of paperwork related to 
vlogging. I'm sure they have a model form written by the best 
lawyers.


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  As part of the videoblogging project I'm managing for teens 
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[videoblogging] re: Rec. Host Provider??

2005-12-07 Thread Nerissa \(TheVideoQueen\)



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[videoblogging] video blogging

2005-12-07 Thread mmcallen
Hi
I am in san francisco(actually oakland) and am looking for other 
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[videoblogging] New member : Michael at http://vlogstory.blogspot.com

2005-12-07 Thread NOYELLE Michael
Hi everyone ! I'm a new member of the videoblogging group. My name is
Michael, I'm 25, I live close to Paris, France. I'm a journalist and a
documentary filmmaker. 
I finally decided to join the vlogosphere after one year as a
dedicated spectator. I discovered the vlogging movement thanks to
rocketboom, zipzapzop, wearethemedia, verdi, joshleo, and so on. 

My vlog url is : http://vlogstory.blogspot.com/

I heard there was a debate on the different vlogs formats. I have no
precise idea on the subject. I guess it's pretty hard to find an
original concept. So you'll find all sort of stuff on my spot. 
Well, I'm happy to be on the other side now. 
If you need a contact in Paris, don't hesitate to e-mail me ! 

Take care guys !

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Re: [videoblogging] video blogging

2005-12-07 Thread Ted Tagami



Hey Mike -

I'm near Berkeley, and there are alot of us here in the Bay Area! Try
http://www.vlogmap.org/ if you have not yet. Feel free to give me a
shout if you have a question. 

My Best,

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[videoblogging] AVID parties

2005-12-07 Thread Randolfe Wicker





When I first started videotaping in earnest last 
summer, I met a professional filmmaker who gave me the lead to sign up to be 
invited to an AVID party. The party was at a very nice Club called La 
Strada in Chelsea. They had stations around the room where AVID 
technicians demonstrated their latest models. Alcohol was free. They 
even gave away free t-shirts.

AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by 
real professionals. I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks 
talking about their rendering time problems, etc. They announced they 
would have AVID for Macs available by the end of 2005.

I signed up again for their Holiday Party, held at 
Branch, between 2nd  3rd Avenues, on Manhattan's elegant East 
Side.

My friend arrived a bit late so I had an hour and 
half to study the crowd and attempt eavesdropping.

The attire was strictly informal, jeans, 
sweatshirts, casual clothing, etc. Males outnumbered females between 6 or 
10 to one. Most were over forty with many in their fifties, sixties and 
older.

The drinks were free, waiters and waitresses walked 
about with platters filled with crab cakes, shrimp with mango sauce, 
shish-ke-bob, fruit sticks, etc. It was the kind of place that had a 
butler in the men's room to hand you a towel after you washed your 
hands.

The short official presentation talked about a 
system with "micro-server intelligence", "distributed intelligence" and declared 
"a new page in media workload had just been turned". The system cost 
between $20,000 and $30,000. They were all part of the "Unity Family" to 
share workload with "hardware designed for maximum longevity".

The last line reminded me of overhearing a 
conversation between a salesman and an attendee at the last meeting in which the 
attendee said he had spent $8,000 four years earlier on equipment. He was 
told he should consider he had gotten his money out of that system and move on 
to the current one.

All the talk about "intelligence" reminded me of 
those Immortalists looking forward to uploading themselves into cyborgs. I heard 
a couple people talking about "not editing much anymore" and overseeing 
editors.

My friend goes to these events to network. He 
says he has gotten quite a few jobs through networking there. He must be 
doing something right because he now has a good new job with the news department 
ofone of the major Network TV channels in NYC.

I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging 
was about. A fellow wearing a "Mermaid Fair" t-shirt told me the wild 
looking fellow whose picture always appeared in news stories about Coney Island 
was head of the Polar Bear Club. He said that 700 or more people showed up 
every New Years Day at Coney Island to watch between thirty and forty-five 
"Polar Bear Members" go plunging into the surf for anywhere from a couple 
minutes to "quite some time".

Oh well, that would be something to vlog. You 
usually hear about that kind of thing after the event. I guess even a 
vlogger can network at an AVID event.

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Re: [videoblogging] Vlogs Near You

2005-12-07 Thread andrew michael baron
Matt, this is a super feature. Its very useful to a locale listed out  
clearly like this; a great way to drill in now that you are scaling  
so much.

On Dec 6, 2005, at 2:29 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

 I've been feeling inadequate about my lack of dev time on VlogMap
 recently.  There is so much that could be done to improve the site,
 but very little time is left over after work and snow chasing.

 In an attempt to redeem myself, I just posted about this new feature
 on the VlogMap blog and thought there may be some non-blog-readers who
 will find this informative (cool or useful?)...

 http://www.vlogmap.org/blog/2005/12/06/vlogs-near-you/

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[videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread LeanBackVids.com
Actually, I've never been to NYC or had a bed bug bite.

It was somewhat of a joke since it has been all over the news. 
According to what I've heard, most news reports focus on NYC as being
the worst.  No matter where they're at, bed bugs creep me out.

On a serious note, if this event is going to draw a lot of visitors
then someone should look into hotel sponsorship.  Most hotel chains
are willing to give a discount for big groups.  It is free advertising
for them after all.

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 Matt, yeah, health is of course of paramount importance.
 
 What NYC hotels should we avoid, sounds like you have had a bad  
 experience in NYC.
 
 Let's make visits as safe/comfortable as possible for out-of-town  
 visitors, eh, please share with us your bad-hotel list.
 
 
 
 On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:56 AM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
 
  Don't let the bed bugs bite.
  http://news.google.com/news?q=bed+bugs
 
  -Matt
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  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Any tips on hotels closest to the main venue(s)?
 
  On 12/6/05, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  http://hotels.travelocity.com/hotel/World/United-States/New-York/New-
  York-City-Hotels/
 
  The first three hotels listed (Wellington, Park Central, Metro)
  are all
  located in very central areas on Manhattan. I can't say I've ever
  stayed any of those three, because I have not, so you might want to
  check them out to ensure they meet your requirements before
  booking. If
  you want to pay up a bit the W hotels are typically good (been
those)
  and the W bar scene(s) is almost always very good.
 
 
 
  On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:02 AM, robert a/k/a r wrote:
 
 
 
  On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote:
 
  I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers
  thingy
  in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera
  battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which
  kind of
  adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap
  accomodation would be over there and how I would find it
 
  Cheap hotel run USD 150, sometimes you can find a USD125
  accommodation
  if you look hard. First check the usual places (i.e.,
  travelocity and
  expedia), if I have time I'll dig up a few budget-oriented
  places and
  post them for you'll who are coming to town.
 
 
  I also have
  the trip from JFK to new york to worry about
 
  If you want to economise, there are buses. I don't know the exact
  figure but it's relatively inexpensive. Lots of folks travel
to/from
  the int'l airports (JFK and EWR) on the cheap and survive it.
 
 
  and then where I will
  stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and
  or buses
  or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being
  able to
  drive on the left hand side of the road.  So any ideas.
 
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[videoblogging] Grouper - another video blogging resource

2005-12-07 Thread robert a/k/a r
Another name on the radar - Grouper (Disclosure: I have NO relationship 
with the company).

http://www.grouper.com/

looks like in addition to video they also host still images


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[videoblogging] worst description ever?

2005-12-07 Thread Josh Leo



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodcast

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Re: [videoblogging] AVID parties

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Garfield
On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:

AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals.  I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their rendering time problems, etc.  They announced they would have AVID for Macs available by the end of 2005.

They have a free version for Mac and PC:

http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp

I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. 

Avid knows what blogging is about.

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[videoblogging] Newsvine Creator on Internet Video

2005-12-07 Thread LeanBackVids.com
My buddy (Mike Davidson of mikeindustries.com) is launching a new site
called Newsvine.  I've got beta access and it is looking good - sure
beats Digg.com, especially since that is only tech news.

Mike was just interviewed by Publish.com and has a few opinions on
video...

// START QUOTE

What about video? There are a lot of news mashups in the works these
days�Bayosphere, OSM, Backfence, you guys. But nobody seems to be
dipping into video except the big networks (ABC News Now, CNN
Pipeline, etc.) Is that because of the cost of publishing and hosting
video, or does it have more to do with the Internet ideal of
interactivity?

I feel like video over IP will be quite compelling at some point in
the future, but there are so many things conspiring against it right
now that I'd rather spend our resources on things we have more freedom
to innovate with right now. As I see it, there are four major things
holding video back on the net right now:

The first is rights. Content producers don't seem to mind republishing
articles�or at least excerpts of their articles�in places other than
their own domains. But ask a TV station if you can capture some
footage from their broadcast and display it on your own site and you
probably won't get permission. To compound the problem, the station
often doesn't even have the rights to give you those rights even if
they wanted to. For example, a company like ESPN has video deals with
major sports leagues but those deals do not transfer authority to ESPN
to then pass those rights onto other parties. So when a company even
as big as ESPN has trouble with video rights, you can be sure that
everyone else down the food chain will as well.

The second major problem with video over IP is that of video quality,
resolution, and bandwidth usage. These issues will work themselves out
naturally in only a few more years, but I've always said that video on
the Internet will never really take off until the quality approaches
television, both in visual grade and speed of delivery.

The third problem with video on the Internet is production quality
demands. Reading a great article by a fly fisherman in Montana can be
a very enjoyable thing. Watching that same fly fisherman sit on his
couch in front of a camera and speak those same words is probably not
going to have that same positive effect. There's a reason why most
people you see on TV are attractive, well trained, and enhanced by all
sorts of lighting effects and camera work. It's because the medium has
evolved into much more of an entertainment vehicle than an information
vehicle. It's really always been that way, but technology has evolved
to the point now where if you don't have great production quality in
your video, it's noticeably lacking.

And finally, the last problem I have with video on the Internet is the
linear pace at which it moves. Watching video has traditionally been a
lean back experience, meaning you're just kind of sitting back and
letting it play, but everything else on the Internet is lean
forward. Even when you're just reading an article, you're constantly
controlling the rate at which you scan, scroll, and skip around. I'm
not sure how to best enable that sort of behavior with video, or even
if it's a good thing to do so. So anyway, I'd say that we certainly
aren't against video at Newsvine and we do plan to do some very cool
things with it in the near future, but for now, we're content to be a
little patient.

// END QUOTE

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Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread WWWhatsup


On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote:

 how much cheap
 accomodation would be over there and how I would find it


http://www.chelseahostel.com/
$28 - $70 depending on degree of privacy



 I also have
 the trip from JFK to new york to worry about

$5 airtrain each way   (buy $10 metrocard just for this )
+ 7 day metrocard  $24  (unlimited travel on all buses and subways)


 and then where I will
 stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses
 or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to
 drive on the left hand side of the road.  So any ideas.

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[videoblogging] Skype With Video

2005-12-07 Thread andrew michael baron
The new Skype with Video beta is out. Great for interviews when  
people don't have iChat:
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...

2005-12-07 Thread Randolfe Wicker





My question wasn't to you. I asked Joan if 
she had been threatened with legal action. That is a totally different 
question. I have an entire file on "music" including freeplay music, 
etc.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markus Sandy 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: That 
  perfect moment...
  Randolfe, PLEASE try searching the group archives once in a 
  while.In this case, search for "Freeplay 
  Music".Randolfe Wicker wrote: 
  


Joan, did you get threatened or contacted by 
the owners of the copyrighted music? So many vlogs use copyrighted 
music and I haven't heard anyone ever say they had to take that vlog 
down.


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  Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...
  Yes I have, unfortunately I had to take the video down 
  because it was using copyrighted music. *sigh*But I still feel the 
  satisfaction of crafting a video to my 
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Re: [videoblogging] Skype With Video

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Meiser
ROCK!   Good bye mac platform isolationism... hello friends who just  
happen to use windows. :)

Damn fuscking cult business practices.

BTW, ichat video does supposedly work with a windows AOL client, but  
I've never seen it work.

-Mike

On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:02 PM, andrew michael baron wrote:

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[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
 
  AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals.  
  I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their 
  rendering time problems, etc.  They announced they would have AVID
for 
  Macs available by the end of 2005.

LOL, Avid started on the Mac.  I went to a Avid training class around
1991.

Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
recently.  The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The
Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has
been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on
Cold Mountain.

  -- Enric
  
  http://www.cirne.com
  Determine the Media

 
 They have a free version for Mac and PC:
 
 http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp
 
  I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. 
 
 Avid knows what blogging is about.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties

2005-12-07 Thread robert a/k/a r
Speaking of Walter Murch, if you have not yet read his book *In the 
Blink Of An Eye*...


On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Enric wrote:

 1991.

 Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
 recently.  The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The
 Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has
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Re: [videoblogging] worst description ever?

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Sullivan
just scanned it...
you are right..
will read it more thoroughly tonight.
since I am always ranting about the word vodcast, i might as well.. right? ;-)

here's a 5 second stab to replace what is there:

- - -
* vodcast is short for video podcast much the same that vlog is
short for video blog and blog is short for web log.  Oh yeah, it
is related to VideoOnDemand too.  bye.
- - -

=)

sull

On 12/7/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  looks like whoever made this entry on wikipedia didn't pay much attention
 the the Vlog entry...this needs some serious help.

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Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Loiez D.

Le 7 déc. 05 à 05:52, Paul Knight a écrit :

 I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers

Hi Paul, hi all

What are the dates for the meeting in NY?
I seriously think of coming with my  wife Elisabeth
( a present for 15 years weddiing birthday).
One of our good friend is owner of a restaurant in Indian Bay.
Elisabeth speaks fluent English and I would be happy to meet all our  
friends vloggers in NY.

Paul thx give me in touch for this travel.
  With Elisabeth we missed the meeting of the vloggers in Amsterdam  
because it is more expensive (!)  than to NY

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Re: [videoblogging] Newsvine Creator on Internet Video

2005-12-07 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
He is right that rights is a can of worms, but I'd like to call bullshit  
on his other two points.

 The second major problem with video over IP is that of video quality,
 resolution, and bandwidth usage. These issues will work themselves out
 naturally in only a few more years, but I've always said that video on
 the Internet will never really take off until the quality approaches
 television, both in visual grade and speed of delivery.

Let's wind back the clock 60 years and play the word replacement game:

The second major problem with television is that of video quality,  
resolution, and bandwidth usage. These issues will work themselves out  
naturally in only a few more years, but I've always said that television  
will never really take off until the quality approaches cinema, both in  
visual grade and speed of delivery.

The human race has been going apeshit over new technology since the  
invention of the wheel.

 The third problem with video on the Internet is production quality
 demands.

And blogging will not take off because people can't spell. And podcasting  
will never take off because people can't talk into a mic.

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[videoblogging] Re: Newsvine Creator on Internet Video

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He is right that rights is a can of worms, but I'd like to call
bullshit  
 on his other two points.
 
  The second major problem with video over IP is that of video quality,
  resolution, and bandwidth usage. These issues will work themselves out
  naturally in only a few more years, but I've always said that video on
  the Internet will never really take off until the quality approaches
  television, both in visual grade and speed of delivery.
 
 Let's wind back the clock 60 years and play the word replacement game:
 
 The second major problem with television is that of video quality,  
 resolution, and bandwidth usage. These issues will work themselves out  
 naturally in only a few more years, but I've always said that
television  
 will never really take off until the quality approaches cinema, both
in  
 visual grade and speed of delivery.
 
 The human race has been going apeshit over new technology since the  
 invention of the wheel.
 
  The third problem with video on the Internet is production quality
  demands.
 
 And blogging will not take off because people can't spell. And
podcasting  
 will never take off because people can't talk into a mic.
 
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It's not the it's the quality of resolution that is primary, but the
value of the message.  People will rapidly consume low resolution
camera images of the London subway bomgings because of the value of
the information transmitted.

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[videoblogging] Re: Newsvine Creator on Internet Video

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He is right that rights is a can of worms, but I'd like to call
bullshit  
 on his other two points.
 
  The second major problem with video over IP is that of video quality,
  resolution, and bandwidth usage. These issues will work themselves out
  naturally in only a few more years, but I've always said that video on
  the Internet will never really take off until the quality approaches
  television, both in visual grade and speed of delivery.
 
 Let's wind back the clock 60 years and play the word replacement game:
 
 The second major problem with television is that of video quality,  
 resolution, and bandwidth usage. These issues will work themselves out  
 naturally in only a few more years, but I've always said that
television  
 will never really take off until the quality approaches cinema, both
in  
 visual grade and speed of delivery.
 
 The human race has been going apeshit over new technology since the  
 invention of the wheel.
 
  The third problem with video on the Internet is production quality
  demands.
 
 And blogging will not take off because people can't spell. And
podcasting  
 will never take off because people can't talk into a mic.
 
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Sorry, my prior post first sentence was badly edited.  Here's what I
intended:

It's not the quality of resolution that is primary, but the value of
the message. People will rapidly consume low resolution camera images
of the London subway bomgings because of the value of the information
transmitted.

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Re: [videoblogging] mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Meiser


 On Dec 6, 2005, at 10:38 PM, Markus Sandy wrote:

 if you recall, she got a bit frustrated at BlogHer too

 in one general session, she stood up and complained about how bloggers
 had been so critical of her leadership of Six Apart, mainly with  
 respect
 to her not hiring more women engineers.

 here is an audio recording of that
 http://apperceive.blogs.com/apperceive/2005/08/mena_trott_at_b.html


Thanks markus.

In many respects this is live by the sword die by the sword business.

We're heavily invested in social media and when you develop a  
business that's heavily invested in social functions you live and die  
by the communities perceptions of you. That's moveable type and that  
goes for all of us in this space. Remember 59 Bloggers?

On the other hand Mena needs to get some thicker skin. She's very  
high visibility as one of the leading ladies of the blogosphere. So  
it's ridiculous to think everyone's going to love her.

Message to Mena, if you can't take the heat Mena get out of the  
kitchen... or off the stage... or wherever you're not comfortable  
being. :)


On yet still a third hand... never ever loose your smile or grace  
when you're in a room full of camera's or microphones... it always...  
always, always... looks bad... and that's before people even start  
taking it further and further out of context in which case it just  
looks worse and worse.

BTW, there's also a clip of her from CBS on her blog.
http://www.sixapart.com/about/corner/

We've got a bit of a Mena Craze going on now. :)

Peace,

-Mike

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 mena trott from typepad and some audience member discussing how to
 behanve online.reminds me of some of the discussions we have on this
 grouop when we disagree.

 http://dltq.org/media/menavsben.mov
 (sorrry i found it in the delicious feed so i dont know the  
 permalink).

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[videoblogging] Vlog Calendar for charity

2005-12-07 Thread gabe_perardua
Dear Fellow Vloggers,

Let's give something back this Christmas together. I first want to say
how awesome it is to be a vlogger, and be a part of the vlogger
community. There is so much potential here. We cheer each other when
good stuff happens, and support each other and the world when the sh##
hits the fan.

After returning from Les Blogs, I got a phone call from my father
telling me my grandmother is in a coma after having tumors in her
brain removed. It won't be certain for a number of days if she has
lost any brain function after the operation or not. This has shaken me
up quite a bit, and I feel helpless. But then my girlfriend gave me an
idea.

I'm going to be putting a number of products online via cafepress with
the vlogger theme. The coolest thing is a vlogger calendar. But I want
to have all kinds of vloggers on the calendar, and on other products.
The point is that all the proceeds that are earned (as cafepress takes
some money off to produce the stuff) will be going to charity
organizations. Of course cancer, hiv, warchild, redcross, oxfam, and
one.org will be the charities I want to send the money too.

So how can you help?

1. Pcik your favorite vlogger photos from the past year, and post them
on flickr.
2. Tag these photos vlogcalendar.
3. When buying any christmas presents this year think about buying a
few calendars or other products.
4. Link to the cafepress store on your site.

The cafepress link to the store is:
http://www.cafepress.com/xolotv

The flickr group to post directly is:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/vlogcalendar/

I want to get this out soon, so I ask you all to submit your pictures
by monday, so I have 2 days to design and upload. I want to be in time
for Christmas and New Years.

Let's make a difference together,

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[videoblogging] Re: Newsvine Creator on Internet Video

2005-12-07 Thread LeanBackVids.com
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 It's not the quality of resolution that is primary, but the value of
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 transmitted.
 
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Agreed.  He is not a big fan of personal video blogs and eludes to
this here...

The third problem with video on the Internet is production quality
demands. Reading a great article by a fly fisherman in Montana can be
a very enjoyable thing. Watching that same fly fisherman sit on his
couch in front of a camera and speak those same words is probably not
going to have that same positive effect. There's a reason why most
people you see on TV are attractive, well trained, and enhanced by all
sorts of lighting effects and camera work.

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[videoblogging] MoBuzz on Weblog Awards vlog controversy

2005-12-07 Thread Chuck Olsen
This is kinda funny:

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[videoblogging] featured vloggers @anthology

2005-12-07 Thread jonny goldstein
I should have done this awhile ago, but here's who is on the menu for
tonight's NODE 101 vlog screening @ anthology film archives. All these
folks are based in NYC. This is a NYC themed screening tonight. If you
are in the neighborhood, swing by. 6PM, 2nd Ave and 2nd Street. $5.

Monika Lyman
Chhon Eath
Mica Scalin
missbehavins.blogspot.com
watchmepaint.com
Javier Goin
Randy Wicker
Lynn Lane
Dan Winckler
Josh Seiden
Tony Schultz
24by7.com
Eli Chapman
Jonny Goldstein
thisorthat.blogspot.com

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Re: [videoblogging] mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Meiser


Kick ass... These are core issues to the "social media" issue... the ability to break down and recontextualize larger pieces of media... The idea of turning it into microcontent, or video quoting to reference it in a highly granular manner.  To stretch it out over time and space, to create the space to discuss it.I also like this idea of speakers at conferences as merely there to create a list of talking points to start the framing of the discussion...  that and fill the in between of those talking points with humor, and  theory and entertainment to stirr the audience members minds... that so when the speaker breaks or takes questions the conversation can be transfered from the stage to between the members of the audience   It's not that they're teaching... it's that they're providing a frame and a catalyst for discussion.BTW, you can see this theory with all IP, intellectual property... Is the original blog or vlog post important... or is it what happens in the comments and through revlogging later?   Is the creation of a song what's important or is it the start of a far more important cultural conversation...  Social media assumes that the creation of the artifact is only a point in the conversation... Sometimes it's the start of a larger conversation.. sometimes the creation of the artifact is the synthesis of a larger conversation, but it must continue... and on some level it must be open and accessible to all.Chuck D talked about this before congress a year or two back... sighting the rolling stones... the early rolling stones borrowed very heavily from early sothern blues...  whole rifts... whole songs even...  The rolling stones developed on that language to make new artifacts... now the public should have a right to continue to evolve and reinterpret those artifacts into a new cultural language and debate.  This in an era where we have artists getting sued for sampling as little as a single note from a song.What social media does is just like open source... it acknowleges a large part of the value in IP (intellectual property) is in the reinterprations of that IP for other ends.  Newspapers have come to terms with this... but untill the rest of big media does they'll suffer a rapid devaluation in their cultural significance... and in the cultural vacuum they've created our media, podcating, blogging and vlogging will flurish.The key is in our experimentation and development of new systems and balances in this space... Our tools and systems like blogging platforms and ant and blip and mefeedia are one example... creative commons and open source licensces are another example... that balances these new values to both protect artists right while simultaneously giving up enough rights so the collaboration and dialogue can continue.Peace,-Mike Michael Meiser http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - del.icio.us link blog http://evilvlog.com - serious lunacy has a new domain  On Dec 6, 2005, at 7:17 PM, R. Kristiansen wrote: Hey all,   On 12/6/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Raymond, if an audio blog post with text becomes a podcast whendelivered to a computer or mobile device using RSS 2.0, why wouldn't avideo blog post with text become a video podcast when delivered to acomputer or mobile device using RSS 2.0?  Well, my only objective was to point out that there _is_ in fact a context outside the video itself. I don't know how else to use the terminology. When a video can well stand alone, isn't that also a videoblog. Technically, Rocketboom is still a videoblog even though they don't have a lot of text / show notes outside the video, right?  So what do I call a video that is - in my opinion - dependant on the text in the blog entry to be fully appreciated? Video that is more like an afterthought to the text, or a visual reminder of one aspect of the issues at hand.   At some of the conferences/meetings I have been at, I just take a lot of video, encode it with 3ivx, upload it, and then link to it frmo the text at appropriate times. You _can_ read the text alone, but the video adds some depth to it, or a pun, or a visual exclamation mark. I like this method a lot myself, even though it breaks some of the mainstream vlogging conventions, and I am sorry that I haven't seen any others take this approach.   Having said that, I really find this clip interesting, for several reasons.   It was a quote from one of the video files that Maartens (http://www.blogologie.be) captured with his webcam and put online at http://maartenschenk.be/video/lesblogs/ . It was a three-minute quote from a large .wmv file. I took the file via Movie Maker into QT and exported it into a nice little movie, an entity that represents that session and the whole conference, along with some other interesting things that happened. Using another person's footage like that was really inspiring, in a way. Maartens was my eyes, and he was just ONE conference participant with a laptop, a little 

Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Jay dedman
 What are the dates for the meeting in NY?
 I seriously think of coming with my  wife Elisabeth
 ( a present for 15 years weddiing birthday).
 One of our good friend is owner of a restaurant in Indian Bay.
 Elisabeth speaks fluent English and I would be happy to meet all our
 friends vloggers in NY.

no dates yet.
it will be after Easter/Passover.
dates will be announced when we knwo.

 Paul thx give me in touch for this travel.
   With Elisabeth we missed the meeting of the vloggers in Amsterdam
 because it is more expensive (!)  than to NY

once we know whern, we can start planning resources on places to stay etc.

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[videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Bill Streeter
The Chelsea? Isn't that where Sid killed Nancy? I'm staying there!!

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
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  how much cheap
  accomodation would be over there and how I would find it
 
 
 http://www.chelseahostel.com/
 $28 - $70 depending on degree of privacy
 
 
 
  I also have
  the trip from JFK to new york to worry about
 
 $5 airtrain each way   (buy $10 metrocard just for this )
 + 7 day metrocard  $24  (unlimited travel on all buses and subways)
 
 
  and then where I will
  stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and 
or buses
  or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...

2005-12-07 Thread Joan Khoo



Don't worry so much about hits or comments. Worry about if you're
enjoying what you're doing and keep posting. It takes time to build a
fan base and get reviewers. But meanwhile, don't worry so much. And it
does help if you promote yourself shamelessly by pasting your URL
everywhere. :)
Cheers
Joan
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Wow..I have been dealing with all these thoughts lately. I was kind ofbummed since I rarelly have a comment to my posts.So, ok, bare with me for a moment.I started this because I love new media, I love film, moving images
and telling stories. There is not doubt a big pleasure in the creativeprocess, I enjoy experimenting and learning along the way. This is agreat payback for the time I put on my postings... but I have to be
honest, I want to communicate and I want people to respond. I wantpeople to like what I do and I want them to let me know.Shit,... am I beeing egocentric, narcissistic? I've been doing art allmy life and always found difficult my two sides. For one I want to do
my art just because I love it, because is a theraphy, because I go toanother world while I am doing it, because I need it to survive... buton the other side that is not enough. I want people to see it, I want
to share it with them, I want to know what they think... is that wrong?.So, often lately I discover myself thinking of what kind of vlogsshould I do to get into the list of most watched, the in crowd,
the known guys instead of just what do i want to tell that day...and that makes me sad, and I feel bad, like I am not being honest withmy art... it feels rotten.I read your comment jadelr21. I am a fun of Chassing windmills.
Remember I sent you an email. I have your videos in my iPod, so Iguess that should mean I really like them, and it dazzles me what yousay about not having too many comments... I think what you are doingis awesome... so what's going on?
What kind of people are watching videos?What kind of content is succesfull?Should I just concentrate on doing my stuff instead of worring about hits?Where am I going with all this?Boy... am I a mess
Sorry about the long post. Ey, how do I know how many people downloadmy videos?Thanks.Escorial--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Comments aren't too much of a guide since many people get only onecomment per 500 views.That is a figure that gives me the shivers. One of the problems with getting connected to viewers is getting
them to watch in the first place.I put up a vlog that was anexquisite mixture of people lighting each others candles in churchwhile classical flute music played.I'm not even a classical musicfan and I've always considered that footage to be among the best I
ever shot. (It was filmed in 1991.) I labeled it Candlelight, Music and Lost Love.The text didn'thelp since I described it as a mass funeral music video.It gotonly 11 views in three or four days.
 Other footage from the same memorial service for people with AIDSEvery Balloon is A person.Lost Traditions of mourning got about 50views the first day.That kept it around #6 on Blip's most watched
list all day Friday, World AIDS Day.Then, for reasons I don'tunderstand, it got over a hundred hits the next day and quickly hit200 views. I think some of these videos get passed around to interested
groups.My Waging War on Death featured the founder of TheImmortality Institute just giving the introductory address at thefirst Immortalist Conference in Atlanta.It got over a hundred hits a
day and now has gotten 600 or 700 hits which makes it my mostsuccessful video.I know that was passed around in LongevityNewsletters, Transhumanist discussion lists, etc. I think you slowly build name recognition through your vlogs.
People come to know what your stuff is like.Then they either watchor just skip you when they see you have a new vlog. Having a consistent theme helps also.Drinking With Bob comes to
mind.You see that title and his subject.You know you're going toget a minute and half rant on the subject.He is very widely watched. He has a perfect formula. I have forty or fifty hours of great video material I filmed all
summer at street fairs.Before I got into vlogging, I thought I woulddo a documentary on street fairs and people who set up booths to sellart, merchandise or ideas.The subject matter is very varied.However, I'm thinking about starting a series of vlogs with the
subject matter (Selling Sunglass) followed with the line StreetFair Project.After about ten or twelve vlogs, I should be able totell if the theme street fair project has gathered a following.
 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ 
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Re: [videoblogging] Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Show



Gena ... thanks for the interesting post, I do a lot of work in usability and human-computer interaction research and am quite familiar with Jakob Nielson, so thanks for the opportuntity to allow me to pontificate in a boring academic manner :) ... 
First of all, although Jakob Nielson has done a lot to promote
usability, his claims have always been suspect with me. In fact, when I
saw this Alert Box referred to in this thread I thought about posting
it to the list too, but then figured that, based on what I know about
Jakob Nielson's work, I figured that people may take it too seriously. 

So what I would emphasize in interpreting anything Jakob Nielson says
is to take it with a grain of salt ... he states things as hard and
fast facts, based on research, when, in fact I would call them more
like educated opionions ... for example, let's take this one

1) Rarely does any eye tracking research indicate that anyone stares at
anything for a long period of time ... are eyes are not really
designed that way
2) The data he shows you in his example is a sample size of 1 ... this
is not the summation of a lot of eye tracking data, nor does it give
any indication of the degree of error associated with all of the
different participants
3) Most importantly, his criterion (operational definition) for
boring was eyes moving throughout the page, but I think there's a
pretty big distance between this operation and this construct ... seems
like the better thing would have been time-on-task or self-report of
boringness
4) Maybe even more important, he makes this giant claim about comparing
TV to the web, and how these data indicate that talking head video on
the web is boring as compared to TV, but I don't see any data about eye
tracking data associated with watching TV ... do people who watch TV
just stare at the face and not let their eyes wander? even if they do,
would the wondering be associated with the fact that a TV just has a
face, but no other stuff on the screen?

... the other intersting thing to me is that the active - web and
passive - TV thing is going to blur more and more as the two devices
television and computer monitor/keyboard start to merge and the web
becomes a part of all these devices

... Perhaps what he concludes is true, but it is certainly my view that
he does not provide us with any reasonably emperical test to support it
and, in fact, if a real experiment was conducted to try and examine the
relationship between video characteristics and boredom, I would
imagine you would find that there are some other major variables that
would mediate this to a larger extent, for example, nature of the
content, expressiviness of the talking head (there's a lot that a face
can add to a voice, as we all know from watching someone speaking) ...
and of course, there's a whole host of issues having to do with the
context in which someone is watching the video (I would put rocketboom
with a talking head up against most action videos, including my own,
and I'm thinking the action would tend to be more boring - but that's
an opinion, not based on any research)

... well, that whole discussion demonstrates that

a) I must be a college professor, who teaches stuff like research design, or how could I possibly write stuff so boring
b) As Sam Rayburn said any damn mule can kick down a barn, but it
takes something to build one (it's a lot easier to criticize research
than do it)
c) I'm obviously jealous that I don't have a web news letter on usability that attracts a zillion readers per news letter

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Hi all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my classpresentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across aninteresting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html
Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community.He did anstudy on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video.He questions if broadcast video ported to the web is a good idea. I'll
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[videoblogging] Re: mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kick ass... These are core issues to the social media issue... the  
 ability to break down and recontextualize larger pieces of media...  
 The idea of turning it into microcontent, or video quoting to  
 reference it in a highly granular manner.  To stretch it out over  
 time and space, to create the space to discuss it.
 
 I also like this idea of speakers at conferences as merely there to  
 create a list of talking points to start the framing of the  
 discussion...  that and fill the in between of those talking points  
 with humor, and  theory and entertainment to stirr the audience  
 members minds... that so when the speaker breaks or takes questions  
 the conversation can be transfered from the stage to between the  
 members of the audience   It's not that they're teaching... it's  
 that they're providing a frame and a catalyst for discussion.
 
 BTW, you can see this theory with all IP, intellectual property... Is  
 the original blog or vlog post important... or is it what happens in  
 the comments and through revlogging later?   Is the creation of a  
 song what's important or is it the start of a far more important  
 cultural conversation...  Social media assumes that the creation of  
 the artifact is only a point in the conversation... Sometimes it's  
 the start of a larger conversation.. sometimes the creation of the  
 artifact is the synthesis of a larger conversation, but it must  
 continue... and on some level it must be open and accessible to all.
 
 Chuck D talked about this before congress a year or two back...  
 sighting the rolling stones... the early rolling stones borrowed very  
 heavily from early sothern blues...  whole rifts... whole songs  
 even...  The rolling stones developed on that language to make new  
 artifacts... now the public should have a right to continue to evolve  
 and reinterpret those artifacts into a new cultural language and  
 debate.  This in an era where we have artists getting sued for  
 sampling as little as a single note from a song.
 
 What social media does is just like open source... it acknowleges a  
 large part of the value in IP (intellectual property) is in the  
 reinterprations of that IP for other ends.  Newspapers have come to  
 terms with this... but untill the rest of big media does they'll  
 suffer a rapid devaluation in their cultural significance... and in  
 the cultural vacuum they've created our media, podcating, blogging  
 and vlogging will flurish.
 
 The key is in our experimentation and development of new systems and  
 balances in this space... Our tools and systems like blogging  
 platforms and ant and blip and mefeedia are one example... creative  
 commons and open source licensces are another example... that  
 balances these new values to both protect artists right while  
 simultaneously giving up enough rights so the collaboration and  
 dialogue can continue.
 
 Peace,
 
 -Mike
 
 Michael Meiser
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 http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - del.icio.us link blog
 http://evilvlog.com - serious lunacy has a new domain
 
 On Dec 6, 2005, at 7:17 PM, R. Kristiansen wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 On 12/6/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But Raymond, if an audio blog post with text becomes a podcast when
 delivered to a computer or mobile device using RSS 2.0, why wouldn't a
 video blog post with text become a video podcast when delivered to a
 computer or mobile device using RSS 2.0?
 
 Well, my only objective was to point out that there _is_ in fact a  
 context outside the video itself. I don't know how else to use the  
 terminology. When a video can well stand alone, isn't that also a  
 videoblog. Technically, Rocketboom is still a videoblog even though  
 they don't have a lot of text / show notes outside the video, right?
 
 So what do I call a video that is - in my opinion - dependant on the  
 text in the blog entry to be fully appreciated? Video that is more  
 like an afterthought to the text, or a visual reminder of one aspect  
 of the issues at hand.
 
 At some of the conferences/meetings I have been at, I just take a lot  
 of video, encode it with 3ivx, upload it, and then link to it frmo  
 the text at appropriate times. You _can_ read the text alone, but the  
 video adds some depth to it, or a pun, or a visual exclamation mark.  
 I like this method a lot myself, even though it breaks some of the  
 mainstream vlogging conventions, and I am sorry that I haven't seen  
 any others take this approach.
 
 Having said that, I really find this clip interesting, for several  
 reasons.
 
 It was a quote from one of the video files that Maartens (http:// 
 www.blogologie.be) captured with his webcam and put online at http:// 
 maartenschenk.be/video/lesblogs/ . It was a three-minute quote from a  
 large .wmv file. I took the file via Movie Maker into QT and exported  
 it into a 

Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Randolfe Wicker





At the rate new vloggers are coming online, you 
might have many more than 200. I'd look for facilities that could easily 
hold 300 or more.


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  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:19 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how 
  about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?
   I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the 
  vloggers thingy  in April, which means a 7 hour flight and 
  hoping that my camera  battery can be charged over there, 
  don't worry I know which kind of  adaptor I will need etc, 
  but I was wondering, how much cheap  accomodation would be 
  over there and how I would find it, I also have  the trip 
  from JFK to new york to worry about and then where I will  
  stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or 
  buses  or trains has got to be the only option, due to me 
  only being able to  drive on the left hand side of the 
  road. So any ideas.just to be clear...we are still making 
  arrangements for Vloggecon.the challnge is finding an affordable space 
  that will fit 200+ people.it looks like we willneed to charge money for 
  sign up to cover costs.we are shooting for a weekend between late april 
  and early June.do you think that we need space for this many 
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Re: [videoblogging] Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos

2005-12-07 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:19:03 +0100, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Gena ... thanks for the interesting post, I do a lot of work in usability
 and human-computer interaction research and am quite familiar with Jakob
 Nielson, so thanks for the opportuntity to allow me to pontificate in a
 boring academic manner :) ...

Holy crap. Dr. Richard Show geeks out and uses word like pontificate that  
I have to look up. Oh and Mr. Jakob is Danish (or used to be), so it's  
Nielsen, not Nielson. :o)

 3) Most importantly, his criterion (operational definition) for boring  
 was
 eyes moving throughout the page, but I think there's a pretty big  
 distance
 between this operation and this construct ... seems like the better thing
 would have been time-on-task or self-report of boringness

I'm a big fan of talking to people myself. But I'm also a hippie who hangs  
out in the same building as the literature students. Some people seem to  
have a distinct distaste for qualiative studies...

 ... the other intersting thing to me is that the active - web and  
 passive
 - TV thing is going to blur more and more as the two devices television  
 and
 computer monitor/keyboard start to merge and the web becomes a part of  
 all
 these devices

we have both active and passive video content on the web now. Webcasts of  
concerts have been around forever, Danish TV-2 is offering much of their  
broadcasting on-demand online and I'm sure American networks are doing the  
same. They're already as blurred as can be and that's great. We'll see  
both forms flourish online. Some videos will be used actively, some  
passives and I doubt they'll overlap much. Hence if you want your video  
used actively that will influence what you shoot, how you shoot it, how  
you edit and how you present it. Ditto for passive with the exception that  
it's much easier to produce. :o)

 a) I must be a college professor, who teaches  stuff like research  
 design,
 or how could I possibly write stuff so boring

Anyone who wants to bash Nielsen a bit is not boring in my book. :o)

 b) As Sam Rayburn said any damn mule can kick down a barn, but it takes
 something to build one (it's a lot easier to criticize research than do  
 it)

I think all you need is some eye tracking software and 15 copies of the  
lastest Channel 4 news broadcast and the Human-Dog Christmas Special (for  
comparison). Or maybe not.

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[videoblogging] best video author software

2005-12-07 Thread John J
I'm looking at Pinnacle and Adobeany suggestions for good movie 
making software??

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Re: [videoblogging] This odd thread

2005-12-07 Thread Kunga
Andrew is not hostile. He is only expressing what most of us are  
afraid to express due to the reality of the dishonest manipulation of  
other's opinions and words by unscrupulous members of this group.  
Dishonest and deliberate defamement is a goal of some very corrupt  
members here no one should trust. This is why you never see posts by  
me here any more. There are members here who have no problem with  
lying about other members.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:04:25 +0100, Beth Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 plus his conversation with Dave Winer on civility
 http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/index.php/2005/12/07/dave-winer-wades-in/

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?

2005-12-07 Thread Randolfe Wicker





The Chelsea is where Sid killed Nancy. 
(Maybe, you can stay in the very room where it happened and vlog any ghosts you 
encounter.)

The Chelsea is an old hotel so if you like a 
somewhat "antique" environment, stay there. Actually, compared to other NYC 
Hotels, it is rather reasonably priced.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bill Streeter 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:47 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how 
  about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?
  The Chelsea? Isn't that where Sid killed Nancy? I'm staying 
  there!!Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, 
  WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: 
On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight 
  wrote:   how much cheap  
  accomodation would be over there and how I would find it  
   http://www.chelseahostel.com/ 
  $28 - $70 depending on degree of privacy
   I also have  the trip from JFK to new york to 
  worry about  $5 airtrain each way (buy $10 
  metrocard just for this ) + 7 day metrocard $24 (unlimited 
  travel on all buses and subways)and 
  then where I will  stay, I also have trouble driving in 
  big cities, so cabs and or buses  or trains has got to 
  be the only option, due to me only being able to  
  drive on the left hand side of the road. So any ideas.  
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[videoblogging] Re: mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:04:25 +0100, Beth Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
  plus his conversation with Dave Winer on civility
  http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/index.php/2005/12/07/dave-winer-wades-in/
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos

2005-12-07 Thread Randolfe Wicker





If I recall correctly, a large area of eye focusing 
was along the lower part of the screen where the crawling bar tells you where 
you are in watching the video.

Talking heads are less visually interesting so I 
suspect people would just watch the bar crawl while listening to what was being 
said for a few seconds at a time.

However, if you had the screen filled with fast 
paced action, that part of the screen might get very little 
attention.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard 
  Show 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:19 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Jakob 
  Nielson On Talking-Head Videos
  Gena ... thanks for the interesting post, I do a lot of work in 
  usability and human-computer interaction research and am quite familiar with 
  Jakob Nielson, so thanks for the opportuntity to allow me to pontificate in a 
  boring academic manner :) ... First of all, although Jakob Nielson has 
  done a lot to promote usability, his claims have always been suspect with me. 
  In fact, when I saw this Alert Box referred to in this thread I thought about 
  posting it to the list too, but then figured that, based on what I know about 
  Jakob Nielson's work, I figured that people may take it too seriously. 
  So what I would emphasize in interpreting anything Jakob Nielson says 
  is to take it with a grain of salt ... he states things as hard and fast 
  facts, based on research, when, in fact I would call them more like educated 
  opionions ... for example, let's take this one1) Rarely does any eye 
  tracking research indicate that anyone stares at anything for a long period of 
  time ... are eyes are not really "designed" that way2) The data he shows 
  you in his example is a sample size of 1 ... this is not the summation of a 
  lot of eye tracking data, nor does it give any indication of the degree of 
  error associated with all of the different participants3) Most 
  importantly, his criterion (operational definition) for "boring" was eyes 
  moving throughout the page, but I think there's a pretty big distance between 
  this operation and this construct ... seems like the better thing would have 
  been time-on-task or self-report of "boringness"4) Maybe even more 
  important, he makes this giant claim about comparing TV to the web, and how 
  these data indicate that talking head video on the web is boring as compared 
  to TV, but I don't see any data about eye tracking data associated with 
  watching TV ... do people who watch TV just stare at the face and not let 
  their eyes wander? even if they do, would the wondering be associated with the 
  fact that a TV just has a face, but no other stuff on the screen?... 
  the other intersting thing to me is that the "active - web" and "passive - TV" 
  thing is going to blur more and more as the two devices television and 
  computer monitor/keyboard start to merge and the web becomes a part of all 
  these devices... Perhaps what he concludes is true, but it is 
  certainly my view that he does not provide us with any reasonably emperical 
  test to support it and, in fact, if a real experiment was conducted to try and 
  examine the relationship between video characteristics and "boredom", I would 
  imagine you would find that there are some other major variables that would 
  mediate this to a larger extent, for example, nature of the content, 
  expressiviness of the talking head (there's a lot that a face can add to a 
  voice, as we all know from watching someone speaking) ... and of course, 
  there's a whole host of issues having to do with the context in which someone 
  is watching the video (I would put rocketboom with a talking head up against 
  most "action videos", including my own, and I'm thinking the action would tend 
  to be more boring - but that's an opinion, not based on any 
  research)... well, that whole discussion demonstrates thata) I 
  must be a college professor, who teaches stuff like research design, or 
  how could I possibly write stuff so boringb) As Sam Rayburn said "any damn 
  mule can kick down a barn, but it takes something to build one" (it's a lot 
  easier to criticize research than do it)c) I'm obviously jealous that I 
  don't have a web news letter on usability that attracts a zillion readers per 
  news letter... Richard
  On 12/4/05, Gena 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Hi 
all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my 
classpresentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across 
aninteresting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html 
Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design 
community.He did anstudy on where viewers eyes travel on 
computers screen watching video.He questions if broadcast video 

[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
I see, interesting.  That may give some insight into the competition
between Avid and Final Cut Pro.

  ;),

  Enric
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC because money had
poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them produce
programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said
that he had been forced out of using Mac because of this.
 
 He says that because of this money-lobbying, AVID for Macs will
always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be playing
catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those
present and about 40% were still using Macs.
 
 
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   - Original Message - 
   From: Enric 
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 PM
   Subject: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
 
 
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:

 AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real
professionals.  
 I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about
their 
 rendering time problems, etc.  They announced they would have AVID
   for 
 Macs available by the end of 2005.
 
   LOL, Avid started on the Mac.  I went to a Avid training class around
   1991.
 
   Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
   recently.  The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The
   Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has
   been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on
   Cold Mountain.
 
 -- Enric
 
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 Determine the Media
 

They have a free version for Mac and PC:

http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp

 I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. 

Avid knows what blogging is about.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: A video-blogging streaming-TV station?

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Show



I don't think it's such a bad idea (an alternative current :), but, I wouldn't be interested in watching if there wasn't some filtering of videos ... as opposed to randomly selecting ... how would the filtering work? ... well, that's the big question, of course ... my first plan is that someone who has exactly my taste would sit and watch 100s of videos each day and then hand select the ones I would like the most and then those would be streamed ... of course, I am open to alternative ideas ... Richard
On 12/6/05, wtftoadsoup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joan,You bet people would watch it!Take GBStv for example ( http://gbstv.info ) the majority of theirstream is user created.They have hardly been around very long, but
they have had over 150 people watching on the main stream at once.They have relay streams that can handle many more.And what's on it?Just crap.Random crap primarily that users made.So when we have people who already have audiences I am confident that
we could do this.Toddhttp://www.toadsoup.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sound intriguing but I'm worried about the practicality of it. Would anyone watch it? Joan On 12/7/05, wtftoadsoup 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Would anybody be interested in starting up a streaming Video station  that served up our vlogs?I think we could make a really cool little  stream.It would go through the files and randomly serve them up.
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Re: [videoblogging] This odd thread

2005-12-07 Thread Josh Leo



wow, way to bring back an almost month-old thread!On 12/7/05, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew is not hostile. He is only expressing what most of us areafraid to express due to the reality of the dishonest manipulation of
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: A video-blogging streaming-TV station?

2005-12-07 Thread Joan Khoo



it could also work similarly to launch.yahoo.com (music videos).
Where it streams videos randomly but you are able to rate videos and skip videos.
Joan
On 12/8/05, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it's such a bad idea (an alternative current :), but, I
wouldn't be interested in watching if there wasn't some filtering of
videos ... as opposed to randomly selecting ... how would the filtering
work? ... well, that's the big question, of course ... my first plan is
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videos each day and then hand select the ones I would like the most and
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[videoblogging] High Def over Internet.

2005-12-07 Thread Digital
My friend Bob is nuts. He is working on theater-grade high definition
video over IP. I am working on him to get some lower rez vlogging
going! ;)

Check out a sample of what he is doing:
http://www.endorphin.com/stories/hd/ 

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Meiser
 On Dec 7, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Enric wrote:

 With that an individual creates a particular work at a point in time
 that is their own unique creation.  They have benefited from other
 innovators they've come in contact with directly or through their
 work.  The benefit is individual for their ability to synthesize and
 make useful that interaction.  As we are now seperate human beings, it
 is the individual that creates.

Exactly.

Because our society is so driven by ownership most particularly our  
capitalist systems which are fundamentally based on ownership the  
fundamental crisis is in understanding, and re-balancing these  
radical shifting of societal notions of ownership. In short as you  
say, we are separate individuals, we create separately, and at the  
same time societal ideas of ownership are shifting, we simultaneously  
must keep ownership well defined... It's fuscking tricky, because  
we're still in transition.

The programing world was the first to start to start to come to terms  
with these cultural changes... and you can see this in the open  
document fight in Massachusetts.

Then the world of print and news media shifted because text was so  
accessible and copyable. Even more so than programing code which can  
be protected by compiling it.  In fact we've had many systems for  
managing this ownership in text for centuries.. i.e. quoting and  
attribution... Still it was not easy for print news media and they're  
still struggling though many are now finding great benefits and hence  
increased profits.

We can look at these two systems for guidance as we transition media  
and rebalance notions of media ownership. However it is going to be a  
much harder and longer road (as it has been already, i.e. the P2P  
legal battle), and we've still got a long way to go.

The identifying of this shift in ownership and the defining of it is  
the genius in Richard Stallman's legal framework the GNU public  
license. It defined this cultural shift in legal terms before anyone  
knew how central it was to the issue. Most people had no idea what  
was coming at the time, in fact Richard Stallman probably had no idea  
of the ramifications of what he was doing. The GNU public license is  
the basis for the tremendously influential world wide open source  
collaboration and what has become a new cultural movement. It's had  
an incalculable yet tremendous impact on global commerce.

The Creative Commons then expanded that legal framework of open  
licensing into all forms of IP.  These redefine legally the new  
balance of ownership which works completely within our traditional  
copyright and patent system thus laying the groundwork for what  
we now do.

Interestingly these legal solutions to redefining ownership are the  
exact opposite approach that traditional media has taken... The  
creative commons and open source licenses work within the current  
legal framework to solve the problem by making law more accessible to  
the people and more flexible... meanwhile the traditional media  
complex have proposed DRM (digital rights management) which not only  
has questionable legal merits (cough. Sony root-kit! ahem.), but also  
make law more inaccessible to people by embedding it in the systems  
and the code where it is becomes rigid and inflexible.  I don't think  
I need to further theorize on where these two opposing roads lead.   
So I'll leave that to you. I just say I find it hysterical, in a  
really f'd up way.

Back on point... If this new legal groundwork for ownership was not  
established we wouldn't be able to re-vlog, or remix, or share media  
the way we do..  The simple act of FireANT pulling and caching  
content from blogs might have been questionably legal. Mefeedia's  
pulling of videos and other content into mefeedia so you can more  
easily browse, watch and share them would certainly have been  
illegal.  Creative Commons is the legal framework that allows us this  
flexibility to make media move.

What we're doing is putting those blueprints into action... by making  
media and mediated systems that take advantage of those new freedoms  
to create radical new very social media systems. Our rights are still  
protected and yet our media gains the infinite benefits of being  
shareable and sociable... unlike a hollywood movie, or a CD, or a TV  
show.  It's in light of this radical redefinition of ownership and  
socialization of media that those traditional media entities will  
have to change with the times or risk loosing further relevance in  
our culture. Indeed just by existing and participating and doing our  
thing we are rapidly disproving and making irrelevant many of their  
political and legislative arguments for technological implementation  
of law, such as TPM (technological protection measures), DRM, and  
broadcast flags.

I have a couple side notes... To me the solution for traditional  
media is obvious... it's to drop this technological 

[videoblogging] How To Add Title Page/Credits

2005-12-07 Thread Harold Johnson



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Meiser
 On Dec 7, 2005, at 6:30 PM, Enric wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:04:25 +0100, Beth Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 plus his conversation with Dave Winer on civility
 http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/index.php/2005/12/07/dave-winer-wades- 
 in/

 Dave Winer: Fighting for civilty using rudeness since 1995.

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 Dave is intelligent, innovative and irrational.

   ;)


You guys rock. :)

He's like a rock other people break upon.

LOL

I freaking love Dave Winer... he's so damn brutal... I've seen him  
jump on someones case at a conference, on video of course.

Anyone ever listen to his podcasts? I have a desire to tune in  
again... It's been months.

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Re: [videoblogging] How To Add Title Page/Credits

2005-12-07 Thread Ronen



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[videoblogging] Re: mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
Interesting, thought provoking and inspiring conversation.  I've
snipped to the section I want to respond to:

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip
 
 I have a couple side notes... To me the solution for traditional  
 media is obvious... it's to drop this technological implimentation of  
 law... and focus on watermarking techniques. These uniquely  
 identify content not to stop it from being stolen, but to identify  
 and track it when and if it does become illegally sold and  
 redistributed. This without the mandate that every media device made  
 reads and obeys the watermark that would be illegal like DRM... but  
 that when this media does appears in the public on illegal mass  
 produced DVD's or on P2P networks it can be passively traced and  
 tracked without the violation of civil rights. Watermarks are often  
 impossible to remove and indeed removing them creates an even more  
 obvious identifying mark.  Like human finger prints or serial numbers  
 the use of these techniques are a core part of our culture already  
 and there are open legal systems in place for ensuring the balance of  
 civil rights in these areas.  So there's that... and then there's the  
 fact that traditional media have to just put a foot in the fuscking  
 game already like print news media did before them.
 

That is what I do on my vlogs, I watermark with the text cirne.com
in the bottom right corner.  I agree that is the rationaland probably
primary method to place ownership on the visual media someone creates.

  ;),

  Enric
  =
  http://www.cirne.com
  Determine the Media

 snip

 
 Peace,
 
 -Mike
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Ridley



I'm not sure what that means..the only AVID tools I have experinece with are the Xpress line which, while more expensive than FInal Cut Pro or Premiere, are not the systems you were looking at. But on the low end you can get an AVID setup that competes with Final Cut Pro and is the same version as the PC based edition.
I'm not personally familiar with the Symophony/Media Composer/Unity level of products, but as has been pointed out here they were originally developed exclusively for Mac and only much later came to Windows. While I suspect that FCP has stolen some of their thunder at the low end on Macs, as far as I know you can still buy all of their products for either platform.
Of course- another point to make is that AVID has various products and product lines for various markets. While some film stuff has been moving to FCP, I'm not at all sure that FCP is popular in the realtime/news arena. As far as I know, Apple has no products that compete with the AVID workflow and clip archiving products for news production.
-mOn 12/7/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC 
because money had poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft)to have them 
produce programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said 
that he had been forced out of using Mac because of this.

He says that because of this money-lobbying, AVID 
for Macs will always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be 
playing catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those 
present and about 40% were still using Macs.


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  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Enric 
  To: 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 
  PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: AVID 
  parties
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, 
  Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
  wrote: On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker 
  wrote:   AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by 
  real professionals.   I eavesdropped on guys from major news 
  networks talking about their   rendering time problems, etc. 
  They announced they would have AVIDfor   Macs available by the 
  end of 2005.LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid 
  training class around1991.Final Cut Pro has been competing and 
  taking away customers from Avidrecently. The film editor Walter 
  Murch (Apocalypse Now, TheGodfather II, The Conversation, The 
  Engligh Patient, etc.) hasbeen using Final Cut Pro for editing motion 
  pictures since 2003 onCold Mountain. -- Enric 
   http://www.cirne.com Determine the 
  Media  They have a free version for Mac and PC: 
   http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp 
I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. 
Avid knows what blogging is about.  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: mena trott

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Meiser

 On Dec 7, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Enric wrote:
 That is what I do on my vlogs, I watermark with the text cirne.com
 in the bottom right corner.  I agree that is the rationaland probably
 primary method to place ownership on the visual media someone creates.


See.. perfect... Now if only big media could follow suit. I'm so damn  
sick of steaming media files that don't stream don't play and aren't  
downloadable or linkable or referenceable.

I tried to check out that Mena Trott video on CBS (off mena trotts  
blog) and it was infuriating. Didn't work on safari or firefox. I  
think... what would be FA more effective is either a) flash, or  
b) a downloadable mpeg4 with a CBS watermark, maybe the url on the  
final frame... and heh... if they want to get crazy a little cbs.com  
ad spot or 3rd party sponsorship after the video and before the url  
and credits on the final frame.

I mean I know there's streaming infrustructure stuff there...  
but that's just B.S.  We're all experts here in moving media... the  
issue is not efficiency it's usability and accessibility for craps  
sake.

come on, am I talking crazy talk here?

  LOL :)

-Mike

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 On Dec 7, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Enric wrote:

 Interesting, thought provoking and inspiring conversation.  I've
 snipped to the section I want to respond to:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip

 I have a couple side notes... To me the solution for traditional
 media is obvious... it's to drop this technological implimentation of
 law... and focus on watermarking techniques. These uniquely
 identify content not to stop it from being stolen, but to identify
 and track it when and if it does become illegally sold and
 redistributed. This without the mandate that every media device made
 reads and obeys the watermark that would be illegal like DRM... but
 that when this media does appears in the public on illegal mass
 produced DVD's or on P2P networks it can be passively traced and
 tracked without the violation of civil rights. Watermarks are often
 impossible to remove and indeed removing them creates an even more
 obvious identifying mark.  Like human finger prints or serial numbers
 the use of these techniques are a core part of our culture already
 and there are open legal systems in place for ensuring the balance of
 civil rights in these areas.  So there's that... and then there's the
 fact that traditional media have to just put a foot in the fuscking
 game already like print news media did before them.


 That is what I do on my vlogs, I watermark with the text cirne.com
 in the bottom right corner.  I agree that is the rationaland probably
 primary method to place ownership on the visual media someone creates.

   ;),

   Enric
   =
   http://www.cirne.com
   Determine the Media

 snip


 Peace,

 -Mike


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Re: [videoblogging] How To Add Title Page/Credits

2005-12-07 Thread Harold Johnson



Probably Final Cut Pro HD, though I'm still deciding. May even go with Avid, or something else altogether. I'm open to suggestions...HaroldOn 12/7/05, 
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Re: [videoblogging] Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
First of all, although Jakob Nielson has done a lot to promote 
usability, his claims have always been suspect with me. In fact, 
when I saw this Alert Box referred to in this thread I thought about 
posting it to the list too, but then figured that, based on what I 
know about Jakob Nielson's work, I figured that people may take it 
too seriously.

Richard, I think that's a touch unfair to Nielsen (not NielsOn). I'm 
not familiar with which particular research you're quoting, but he 
and his people do do a lot of extensive research for which he charges 
$$$ for people to buy.

The only time you'll see the more extensive research in his public or 
free newsletters or web site, is when the research is old, or he's 
claiming an opinion (as you say) which is actually based upon the 
research. In the latter case he won't quote the research, because he 
charges for it, so it looks like he's just making it up.

I know for a while there people in the usability world were split 
between being with Nielsen or against him, but I've been out of it 
for a few years now, so I don't know if that has changed.

What I do know is that a lot of his more extensive research is 
extremely valuable and useful, particularly for the web, and if some 
people think that he's wrong, then at least its making people 
consider his opinion, which as you quite rightly said, is good for 
usability in general. :-)

I'm known as a bit of a UI nazi, so I'm probably as passionate about 
it as you are. At least we all agree that usabililty is important.

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[videoblogging] Re: This odd thread

2005-12-07 Thread missbhavens1969
it's the thread that wouldn't die.

Obviously you must feel very strongly on the subject to bring it back around, 
which is 
cool.

Personally, I don't post much here, either, for different reasons. I'm not sure 
that I 
personally believe that anyone's purpose here is to deliberately defame or 
manipulate. I 
think all we have here are very, very strong personalities (which should 
surprise no one in 
the arts or media fields, really) and some egos to match. It's just that 
simple. I'm trying to 
develop a thicker skin about how people talk to each other here...but only to a 
point.

Yeah. I perceive some hostility 'round these parts. Folks get defensive. I 
have, too. The 
internet world is just a microcosm of the real world out there. It shouldn't 
surprise 
anyone.

Bekah
http://missbhavens.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wow, way to bring back an almost month-old thread!
 
 On 12/7/05, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Andrew is not hostile. He is only expressing what most of us are
  afraid to express due to the reality of the dishonest manipulation of
  other's opinions and words by unscrupulous members of this group.
  Dishonest and deliberate defamement is a goal of some very corrupt
  members here no one should trust. This is why you never see posts by
  me here any more. There are members here who have no problem with
  lying about other members.
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[videoblogging] Re: This odd thread

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
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What's a futurecaster?


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: This odd thread

2005-12-07 Thread Joan Khoo



Yeah, what is a futurecaster?

ps... great work changing the subject richard. :)
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Re: [videoblogging] How To Add Title Page/Credits

2005-12-07 Thread Ronen



Go with FCP HD all the way.If all you want to do is add text to a part of the video, it should be fairly easy and self-explanatory.If once you're using it you feel you still need some help, feel free to shoot me an email. (Or any of the group members, for that matter).
RonencinemalogOn 12/7/05, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Probably Final Cut Pro HD, though I'm still deciding. May even go with Avid, or something else altogether. I'm open to suggestions...Harold
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What editor are you using?On 12/7/05, Harold Johnson 

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Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?

2005-12-07 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Another way around cameras without mic inputs would be to record the  
sound to a digital recorder and sync the sound to picture later.

Jan
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On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:

 Thanks teaspace, I bought this mike.  It really isn't very good.   
 Actually, I paid $69 for it at BH a few months ago.  On zoom, it  
 helps a wee bit but shotgun makes the sound terrible.  You are  
 better off not using it at all.
  
 There is another mike that sells (lists) for about $150 and I'm not  
 sure if that is just more of the bad stuff.  Maybe, to get good  
 sound, I'll just have to get a 3-chip camera with a mike jack. I don't  
 like them because they are so large.  Big cameras are intimidating.
  
 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
  
 Videographer, Writer, Activist
 Advisor: The Immortality Institute
 Hoboken, NJ
 http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
 201-656-3280
  
  
 - Original Message -
 From: teaspace
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?

 I have a Sony ECMHS1 mic that simply mounts onto the intelligent hot
 shoe on my PC110 camera.  You don't need any additional connections,  
 and
 the mic pattern even follows the zoom on the camera.

 It gets mixed reviews here, but you could try it or perhaps something
 newer if your sony camera has the intelligent shoe:

 http://www.textkit.com/0_B5T3BZ.html




 Randolfe Wicker wrote:

  I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a  
 shoe
  on top and two clip on microphones available.
  
  I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in.  Is there
  some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected  
 via
  the shoe on top of the camera?
  
  It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March.  I
  really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the
  audio.  I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder.  Audio is
  really almost 50% of good video.
  
  
  Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
  
  Videographer, Writer, Activist
  Advisor: The Immortality Institute
  Hoboken, NJ
  http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
  201-656-3280
  
  
 
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  *Subject:* [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
 
  I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder.
  I've been shopping around
  for one, but haven't found any ones I like.  This would have to  
 be
  compact, and fit on a
  handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package
  (camcorder and mic) small.
  Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions,
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: External camcorder mic suggestions?

2005-12-07 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Jack's pronouncement that lapel mics (lavaliers) aren't as good as  
wireless mics provoked some thinking and a desire to share some  
information.

Wireless mics are not necessarily easy to work with or the solution to  
every sound challenge. Most notably, if you can't get them to work well  
for you, then they're not better, but worse than a wired lavalier.

What wireless mics *can do is allow you to capture sound more  
transparently - with fewer obvious reminders to your subjects that they  
are being filmed. They also free the camera from being either tethered  
to the subject, as with a wired lavalier, or the need to be within 3  
feet of the subject in order to get good sound without a lav. It's a  
pain in the bum to have to disconnect your subject every time he or she  
wishes to stand up and move around. It's potentially intrusive to have  
the camera very close all the time.

Some thoughts about wireless mics: keep transmitter and receiver as  
close together as possible and if that's not possible, then within  
line-of-sight - e.g., no physical obstacles between them. It's  
advisable to have headphones on so you know whether you're getting good  
signal from wireless mics as you record. They are not always reliable.

Cell phones will interfere with wireless signal as when your cell phone  
comes through your speakers with pfft-pfft-pfft when nearby. Advice:  
make sure all cell phones near transmitter and receiver are turned off  
during recording.

Wireless mics - especially the lower end mics - send only a limited  
frequency range. As an example, a telephone sends a limited frequency  
range and that loss of frequencies above and below that of the average  
human voice makes the voice sound tinny. Make sure you listen to the  
mics before purchase to determine whether this loss is acceptable to  
your ear.

Lavalier placement is also very important, but that's advice for a  
hands-on seminar.

My best advice to those interested in purchasing external microphones  
for their cameras is to take your camera to your nearest professional  
sound sales/rental house and have them walk you through a bunch of  
options so you can listen, compare, test, and walk away with all the  
cables and accessories required to make it work for your particular  
device.

XOXOX,
Jan

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On Dec 5, 2005, at 5:52 PM, Jack Nelson wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 Thanks teaspace, I bought this mike.  It really isn't very good.   
 Actually, I paid $69 for it
 at BH a few months ago.  On zoom, it helps a wee bit but shotgun  
 makes the sound
 terrible.  You are better off not using it at all.

 I'm not sure what level of professionalism you are after here, but I  
 have a pair of Radio
 Shack lapel mikes (about $25 each) that I use for interviews. It's not  
 as good as a wireless
 mike and you could probably do a better job with a boom mic if you had  
 a boom mic
 operator, but it's a hell of a lot better than any built in mic and  
 for $25-50 you can't go
 wrong. These are wired mics, so this would not work if you or the  
 subject were walking
 around, but for interviews it works OK. I'm pretty sure they make a  
 wireless version too.

 There is another mike that sells (lists) for about $150 and I'm not  
 sure if that is just
 more of the bad stuff.  Maybe, to get good sound, I'll just have to  
 get a 3-chip camera
 with a mike jack. I don't like them because they are so large.  Big  
 cameras are intimidating.

 This is a slippery slope you're treading here. You can easily spend as  
 much as or more
 than your camera is worth on sound equipment and there's always a  
 better more
 expensive way of doing it. People make careers doing just sound, and  
 they use thousands
 of dollars worth of equipment.

 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker

 Videographer, Writer, Activist
 Advisor: The Immortality Institute
 Hoboken, NJ
 http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
 201-656-3280


   - Original Message -
   From: teaspace
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM
   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?


   I have a Sony ECMHS1 mic that simply mounts onto the intelligent hot
   shoe on my PC110 camera.  You don't need any additional  
 connections, and
   the mic pattern even follows the zoom on the camera.

   It gets mixed reviews here, but you could try it or perhaps  
 something
   newer if your sony camera has the intelligent shoe:

   http://www.textkit.com/0_B5T3BZ.html




   Randolfe Wicker wrote:

 I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a  
 shoe
 on top and two clip on microphones available.

 I 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: External camcorder mic suggestions?

2005-12-07 Thread Josh Leo



Now this is a woman who knows what she is talking aboutOn 12/7/05, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack's pronouncement that lapel mics (lavaliers) aren't as good aswireless mics provoked some thinking and a desire to share some
information.Wireless mics are not necessarily easy to work with or the solution toevery sound challenge. Most notably, if you can't get them to work wellfor you, then they're not better, but worse than a wired lavalier.
What wireless mics *can do is allow you to capture sound moretransparently - with fewer obvious reminders to your subjects that theyare being filmed. They also free the camera from being either tethered
to the subject, as with a wired lavalier, or the need to be within 3feet of the subject in order to get good sound without a lav. It's apain in the bum to have to disconnect your subject every time he or shewishes to stand up and move around. It's potentially intrusive to have
the camera very close all the time.Some thoughts about wireless mics: keep transmitter and receiver asclose together as possible and if that's not possible, then withinline-of-sight - e.g., no physical obstacles between them. It's
advisable to have headphones on so you know whether you're getting goodsignal from wireless mics as you record. They are not always reliable.Cell phones will interfere with wireless signal as when your cell phone
comes through your speakers with pfft-pfft-pfft when nearby. Advice:make sure all cell phones near transmitter and receiver are turned offduring recording.Wireless mics - especially the lower end mics - send only a limited
frequency range. As an example, a telephone sends a limited frequencyrange and that loss of frequencies above and below that of the averagehuman voice makes the voice sound tinny. Make sure you listen to the
mics before purchase to determine whether this loss is acceptable toyour ear.Lavalier placement is also very important, but that's advice for ahands-on seminar.My best advice to those interested in purchasing external microphones
for their cameras is to take your camera to your nearest professionalsound sales/rental house and have them walk you through a bunch ofoptions so you can listen, compare, test, and walk away with all thecables and accessories required to make it work for your particular
device.XOXOX,Jan-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] In NY next weekend?

2005-12-07 Thread Digital Buddha



whoops! My post left off my URI - here, you can get a sense of where I'm coming from...

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Hey there fellow vloggers ~

I may find myself out in NY next weekend, and if so, I was wondering
if anyone wanted to get together informally one night and talk about
(or even do some collaborative) vlogging? 

I should be able to finalize my plans by this Friday, but thought I'd
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[videoblogging] Re: best video author software

2005-12-07 Thread Eric
I use premiere because I get it for free as a student deal with adobe,
I like it and hate it at the same time.

Editing features and everything are GREAT, but there is a stability
issue, premiere crashes pretty often, but keeping the habbit of
stroking in ctrl+s every few edits saves me most of the headaches.

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[videoblogging] Re: A video-blogging streaming-TV station?

2005-12-07 Thread Eric
Or, adding onto Richard's idea, keep some sort of filter, but more of
a limiting filter.  So that it only broadcasts the newest posts off of
each persons vlog or something to that extent.  Like it could browse
(or we could upload somewhere) our 1 or 2 latest entries to enter the
loop at a time so that no person gets more or less play than someone
else and theres an equal opportunity that everyone will get seen.  

Because if we included EVERYTHING then someone who started a month ago
will have a very small amount of posts compared to a site like
Rocketboom, lowering that persons chances of getting any play on the
streaming station.

This sounds like a good idea, WinampTV would get a good number of
viewers if someone had a stream on there and also one through another
means.

-Eric
http://unholyknight.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't think it's such a bad idea (an alternative current :), but, I
 wouldn't be interested in watching if there wasn't some filtering of
videos
 ... as opposed to randomly selecting ... how would the filtering
work? ...
 well, that's the big question, of course ... my first plan is that
someone
 who has exactly my taste would sit and watch 100s of videos each day and
 then hand select the ones I would like the most and then those would be
 streamed ... of course, I am open to alternative ideas ... Richard
 
 On 12/6/05, wtftoadsoup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Joan,
 
  You bet people would watch it!
  Take GBStv for example ( http://gbstv.info ) the majority of their
  stream is user created.  They have hardly been around very long, but
  they have had over 150 people watching on the main stream at once.
  They have relay streams that can handle many more.
 
  And what's on it?  Just crap.  Random crap primarily that users made.
 
  So when we have people who already have audiences I am confident that
  we could do this.
 
  Todd
 
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   It sound intriguing but I'm worried about the practicality of
it. Would
   anyone watch it?
   Joan
  
  
  
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Would anybody be interested in starting up a streaming Video
station
that served up our vlogs?  I think we could make a really cool
little
stream.  It would go through the files and randomly serve them up.
   
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[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties

2005-12-07 Thread Enric
Yes, I think Final Cut Pro has emphasized the cinema film editing
process.  Although version 5 does have multi-camera support.

  ;),

  Enric
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ridley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure what that means..the only AVID tools I have experinece
with are
 the Xpress line which, while more expensive than FInal Cut Pro or
Premiere,
 are not the systems you were looking at.  But on the low end you can
get an
 AVID setup that competes with Final Cut Pro and is the same version
as the
 PC based edition.
 
 I'm not personally familiar with the Symophony/Media Composer/Unity
level of
 products, but as has been pointed out here they were originally
developed
 exclusively for Mac and only much later came to Windows.  While I
suspect
 that FCP has stolen some of their thunder at the low end on Macs, as
far as
 I know you can still buy all of their products for either platform.
 
 Of course- another point to make is that AVID has various products and
 product lines for various markets.  While some film stuff has been
moving to
 FCP, I'm not at all sure that FCP is popular in the realtime/news
arena.  As
 far as I know, Apple has no products that compete with the AVID
workflow and
 clip archiving products for news production.
 
 -m
 
 On 12/7/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC because money had
  poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them produce
programs for
  three years before updating their Mac programs. He said that he
had been
  forced out of using Mac because of this.
 
  He says that because of this money-lobbying, AVID for Macs will
always
  be three years behind, that Mac users will always be playing
catch-up. At
  the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those present
and about
  40% were still using Macs.
 
 
  Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
 
  Videographer, Writer, Activist
  Advisor: The Immortality Institute
  Hoboken, NJ
  http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
  201-656-3280
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 PM
  *Subject:* [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
   On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
  
AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real
professionals.
I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about
their
rendering time problems, etc.  They announced they would have AVID
  for
Macs available by the end of 2005.
 
  LOL, Avid started on the Mac.  I went to a Avid training class around
  1991.
 
  Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
  recently.  The film editor Walter Murch (Apocalypse Now, The
  Godfather II, The Conversation, The Engligh Patient, etc.) has
  been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on
  Cold Mountain.
 
-- Enric

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   They have a free version for Mac and PC:
  
   http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp
  
I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about.
  
   Avid knows what blogging is about.
  
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