- Syndication. Is being able to syndicate your video to other sites of
any value? The idea would be to have the option to publish your video
to other sites and then they can decide if they want it or not,
furthering the reach of the video.
Do you mean RSS? RSS is crucial.
Peter
- Blog integration. Allowing you to easily publish the video to
blogger.com or other blog engines.
I hate this feature. I prefer the flexibility of sharing html
video code myself.
I love this feature. So there you go :)
Peter
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Let's say there was a website that allowed you to post your video
clips to
be viewed and purchased by mobile phone customers.
Would you use it?
Only if the licensing wasn't restrictive (I own my content and can
take it anywhere I like). Then I would try it. If it generated some
real $, I'd
I removed most outside links from the Wikipedia videoblogging entry
(including the one to Mefeedia), leaving only a link to a few key,
nonprofit sites: this group, freevlog and vlogmap.
Sure, disagree, but its better this way than with a long list of
self-serving commercial links. Wikipedia is
So you will be syndicating Flash FLV files using RSS enclosures?
If that's the case, then FireAnt is the only aggregator that supports
this at the moment.
Don't forget Mefeedia.com, we support Flash video ;)
Flash may be more lightweight but its certainly not as portable.
Absolutely, as
The site is a mashup of programming from major media outlets; popular
video-blogs and podcasts; and top-rated content from video upload
services
Nothing against mashup services, and I hope this one has a great
future, but I see a problem:
- major media outlets
- popular videoblogs
- top-rated
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice to hear about some new videobloggers in these articles.
Yeah, totally. I think we need to start highlighting unknown vloggers
on our blogs, send the love around :) I mentioned a few lesser known
vlogs to the
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice to hear about some new videobloggers in these articles.
Feather on my own cap: I did mention the laughing practice woman to
her, so that's one unknown vlogger I promoted successfully :)
The idea behind
of course.
seems to be an A-List of vloggers, evangelists, services that are
repeatedly
mentioned over and over. I suppose this makes sense for the latter
groups but its def good to see new vloggers getting attention... The
variety is usually good... from rboom to laughterpractice.
So here's my plan for next year (just thought of this): every time I
talk to the press, I'll try to promote a few unknown videoblogs,
instead of the usual suspects. Sorry usual suspects, but the newbies
need the love more :)
I'll make a list of newbie blogs that I like for myself so I have
A short video:
http://news.com.com/1606-2-5997652.html
(About video Flickr) I can't make any announcements along those
lines, but it is certainly something that is hotly discussed and
debated in the team.
Which I take to mean: some Flickr people want to keep their focus on
fotos, others want to
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I love Vlog Soup Steve, Love it :)
me too. Vlogsoup rocks. Totally.
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Not sure why you would be interviewed yet have nothing appear in the
article about you or your site at all? Rather odd doncha think?
No that's normal. A lot of stuff gets edited out of articles, nothing
to worry about.
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Having said that, I do think that FireANT (on the Mac at least)
could have a much larger directory of feeds to choose from, and
perhaps an 'activate' checkbox... I'm thinking of the huge list
available in standard aggregators like NetNewsWire. Would be a
nice touch and appear less like a
I'm beginning to wonder what happened to FeedBurner's validity. It
all started with the bloated Mefeedia numbers, but now I'm seeing
other aggregators get reported wrong (or at least I have good reason
to think so).
Just to be clear: the Mefeedia numbers were wrong for 6 vlogs for 1
day.
The new version of Mefeedia is live. With funky revlogging
functionality ;)
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One of my favourite new features in Mefeedia are the wikitags: you can
now edit the description of any tag like in a wiki. For example:
http://mefeedia.com/tags/evilvlog/
I really like what people are editing. There's an RSS feed of the
edits here:
http://mefeedia.com/rss/tag_wiki.php
P
http://mefeedia.com/feeds/96
Ryanne's blog has 89 subscribers in Mefeedia, and that's the number
we're reporting to Feedburner.
Perhaps they cache something, and perhaps you cache something and it
takes longer to update? I'll check with the Feedburner guys :)
Peter
4009 for Ryanne and 1061
://leanbackvids.com
http://vlogmap.org
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://mefeedia.com/feeds/96
Ryanne's blog has 89 subscribers in Mefeedia, and that's the number
we're reporting to Feedburner.
Perhaps they cache something, and perhaps you
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, deepstream_nl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Guys,
Does anybody know how to retrieve your Mefeedia ID. I'v misplaced
it! I follow the simple steps at Mefeedia and seem to hit a brick
wall! Ron at - DutchVlog
hey Ron, email me (at the email on the
OK, it is as I thought: the data is being cached.
I just talked to the Feedburner guys. The stats are just a little out
of date because of caching. We've been sending the correct amount
since yesterday, and by tomorrow everything should be showing the
correct amount.
The Feedburner live stats go
Hi all,
if you use Feedburner for your RSS feed, your stats will show your
Mefeedia subscribers from today on. Here's more explanation and
screenshots:
http://mefeedia.com/blog/2005/12/52/
Enjoy!
Peter
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, Ryanne even outdid the porn site!
-Verdi
On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Josh Leo wrote:
wow looks like Ryanne is the new queen over at vlogmap.com/
feedburner now that Mefeedia is in thereeveryone got a big
u
i don't understand how that happened
my videos only get downloaded by about 400 people a day according to
blip stats
but i guess that means people are on text browsers and not
watching the
vids?
or on mefeedia, but that should register too?
Hey Ryanne, your subscriber
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can I answer the question, How many people are subscribed to my
feed?
That's the number Feedburner gives you. Or maybe there's still a
misunderstanding? What Mefeedia reports to Feedburner are actual
people who
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com
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Oops- Peter responded while I was typing. -- Matt
Yep. There were 6 vlogs that got 1000s of vloggers reported, that was
a bug. It's been fixed now :)
Peter
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You're assuming that the lact of a directory is a problem.
Here's my view.
First, with video, you need a lot more info to decide where to put
your attention than with text, because video demands more attention
(you can't just quickly scan it like a text post, for example). So for
video, you
(Kinda a beginners question)
Is it possible to save an MPEG4 movie that works then on PSP and iPod
(and possible other devices)? What kinds of settings would I need? I'm
looking for something with greatest compatibility.. I don't want to
change all my videos again in 6 months when the next big
Hi all,
so I implemented a fix (it's not live yet, but will be next week).
Here are some screenshots:
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373519/
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373437/
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373386
What it does is put a 'parental
I've added some code to Mefeedia to check for bad internet archive
URLs and provide fixes for the vloggers. It'll be out next week,
here's a screenshot of a feeds details page:
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69379495/
and
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69379752/
(Michael,
What about the text descriptions?
The text descriptions are still there.. the idea isn't to remove any
porn feeds... it's to make it less offensive to browse mefeedia. I
don't want to censor anything at this point.
Peter
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I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned, 'adult'
doesn't always mean X, etc. Perhaps following the iTunes model of
marking things as 'mature' or 'explicit' or whatever might work.
For people not logged in, I would filter out all 'mature' content. For
people who are
It's a good idea, but requires more coding than I can muster right
now.. Will probably implement this in January..
Peter
Not that this thread hasn't run it's course, but I do like one
suggestion that was made, and I sincerely hope that Peter takes it
into serious consideration. The
Hey Jay,
yes, I noticed it as well. It was inevitable, I am actually surprised
it took this long..
So here's the plan we have, for now. In a few months we'll probably
add more features. I have given this some thought over the past
months, and there is a balance: I want mefeedia to be an open
I personally am not opposed to porn but when it comes up so
blatantly we as vloggers are
going to need to find away so that when we are showing new people
youth how to Vlog
and the tools that are available that this stuff does not hit us in
the face.
This is by the way exactly the
Why not provide an option for users to flag certain content as
questionable or offensive, then put that content/feed into moderation
queue for possible removal.
Flagging is another thing we're working on. The key is this though: I
don't want to remove feeds like Richard's, even though they
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I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont
want to. In order to gain a lasting trust with the users of your
system, however, I think it would be important for you to provide a
OK, Here's an overview of the Mefeedia thumbnail feature.
1) It doesn't generate thumbs for *all* types of movies. For most
movies it does, including Flash movies, Windows media movies, you name
it. There are some codecs that it can't handle, unfortunately, but it
gets most of them.
2) It takes
PS: Marcus, we're doing number crunching and analyzing ourselves these
days.. results still pending. :)
Cheers!
Peter
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with all video formats, but is it some sort of theoretical possiblity
at least?
Yep, it's theoretically possible. The amount of development work would
probably be high though, so then it ends up being cheaper paying for a
few more servers, in the short term :) It's all a balance about where
to
the directory is where the popular control lies
now, especially when a directory is large and not open, as we have
all learned.
Interesting.. what do you mean by popular control, Andrew?
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Nevermind the fact that this is an easy path to an exclusionary
clique
of accepted goodness. Plus, the secondary part of Randy's point --
that having an open, accepted directory would prevent other closed
ones -- just won't happen. If anything, I think the folks working
towards
I really don't see why anyone should be limited to just posting
video to
their blog if they want their blog to work in mefeedia
misunderstanding alert!!
OK: so Mefeedia works like this: you can (of course) post whatever you
want in your blog. Mefeedia picks up only the posts with video in
On 11/25/05, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just in the middle of adding a mefeedia thumbnail video archive
to my sidebar with help from the freevlog tutorial and I realised
something: it's going to create thumbs for my text posts as well,
right?
No, it won't create
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I move towards adding video to my site, I'm thinking of moving
over from Blogger to Wordpress. Does anyone have any advice on
creating my own template? In Blogger it was as simple as creating a
HTML page and
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kent Nichols
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mefeedia directory at http://mefeedia.com/feeds/ is a much better
source to find good videobloggers - there are over 1200 videobloggers
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mefeedia also seems to be the most widely-referring vlog directory -
it's
well up in my list of referrers every day - I usually get more
viewers/visitors from Mefeedia than iTunes.
Yes, I make a point of
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Also, one other point to make... seeing a spike in statistics may mean
very little (or at least may be pin pointed as uncharacteristic) if
that spike is not sustained or representative of sustained growth.
Trend
From the Forune article:
While the service won't prevent amateur videographers from offering
their creations for commercial viewing, Allaire said the service's
initial focus is content from more traditional providers.
In other words, they're going were the big $ is: traditional BigMedia
putting
Great, but again, mefeedia does not recognize m4v extension.
Aha, I've found the problem. Mefeedia recognizes m4v extensions in the
*next* version, but that isn't live yet, it will go live around next
week Monday. Doh! I thought we'd already made that live...
Let me know if next week it
mefeedia and FireAnt, the two tools that have grown out of this
community, are really just gettting revved up.
Indeed.
Of course Apple, Yahoo, Microsoft, you name it are building tools for
videoblogging. The importance of independent tools lies in 2 things:
1) It shows the way to the big
is it customary to ask permission when revlogging
someone's work in your on vlog?
If you want to link to someone's blog and to their video, you don't
have to ask permission. This is the web, linking is what we do. Not
even a need for a CC license.
The only problem arises is when you make it
Well the time has come. I want to see all of your movies. I have
tons of
subscribers and
they want movies for their ipods. This is a website designed with
you in
mind and your
talent. The theater if full and it is time for you to perform. I
want your
short and long
films.
Um,
I realize I was a bit harsh here. Paul, perhaps you can explain a bit
why you want to show videos on your own blog instead of linking to and
promoting the blogs of the people who created the video?
Cheers,
Peter
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Crazy Apple. Mefeedia supports m4v, btw.
Peter
There was no such thing as m4v a few weeks ago before the video
iPod. The
next release of FireAnt will support m4v... stay tuned.
-Josh
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Same here, trying to figure out what to do next year.. In my case, it
always ends up involving Mefeedia.
Being more international and connecting different communities is
superimportant I think.. As a first step, I'm gonna make a Spanish
Mefeedia version, so it becomes easier for Spanish speakers
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Its A Mystery and So Im I
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The way things are going now, we might double or even triple that by
next year.
It'll be 10-fold, and next year more and more other groups will grow
out of this mother one (like the Spanish and French
Dreamhost is not a solution for a site with major traffic. They cant
support it. Thats a matter of fact not opinion. Thats what they say:
Dreamhost does not have any dedicated servers avil. at this time and
shared server are too big for the kind of traffic you have. You
mentioned you
If you're looking for extremely high amounts of people watching video,
go with the professionals. Check out
http://www.limelightnetworks.com/solutions.video.html, for example.
Peter
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Njoroge Ndonye
different audience and am wondering about recommendations for hosts
who can
handle around 5TB reliably. Who is the best out there for this level of
Hey Vincent,
why the 5TB number? Don't worry about hosts and numbers, you can
always
you need to be able to parse the user count (often
passed through in the user agent field)
Yes, Mefeedia will soon report this info in the header of its spider,
so that Feedburner stats can take your Mefeedia subscribers into account.
But again, subscribers is just a number. It doesn't mean
And of course popularity doesn't mean you're good :) I always go to
the end of the popularity list in Mefeedia, like here:
http://mefeedia.com/feeds/pop/1050/, and subscribe to the *unpopular*
feeds. There are some real pearls there.
preach mode onI think it's very important that directories and
That's why both ANT and Mefeedia show a comment link to the permalink
of the post, so you can get comments on your blog.. Apple really
doesn't care about videoblogging, they just see this is free content..
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor
I heard ABC News mention their videoblogs (of people quitting
smoking) today on television. I couldn't find them on their site
though.. anyone know where they are?
Peter
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The reviews that we launched in Mefeedia yesterday are starting to
work: so far the quality of the reviews is really good. Charlene's
vlog for example has 2 already:
http://mefeedia.com/feeds/7/
I really believe that reviewing each others' work is going to help a
lot to spread the word about the
Just go to http://mefeedia.com/tags/vloggercon/, most of the session
videos are there, plus many of the unofficial vloggercon videos.
Cheers!
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Peter, awesome work on new mefeedia... checked it out, plenty of
nice new
improvements.
Thanks :) We work hard on it! More coming soon...
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I am trying to synch my vide iPod with my videoblogs in iTunes. But
only some videos show up.. Does iTunes somehow indicate which videos
won't play on the video iPod?? Man, this definitely isn't easy to use,
Apple is putting out some hasty stuff these days...
Peter
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I am trying to synch my vide iPod with my videoblogs in iTunes. But
only some videos show up.. Does iTunes somehow indicate which videos
won't play on the video iPod?? Man, this definitely isn't easy to use,
Apple is putting out some
will make itunes
automatically convert files to an ipod format in the future.
Steve of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks.. but my question is: how do you know, by looking at iTunes, if
a video is gonna play? I have a list of videos
Hi all,
just now, we launched the new Mefeedia.
If you had Instant Archive problems of posts not showing up, check it
now. Let me know if you still have the same problem. You may also want
to have a look at your feeds details page, lotsa new stats there.
If you have a video iPod, try entering
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sounds good
can't wait for those thumbnails to kick in
Markus,
there were 2 probs with the Instant Archive. 1 is that some posts just
didn't show up. That should be fixed. The other is that some posts
have the grey
Oh, and something else: we should all blog about why YouTube sucks, so
that it will become well known and videoblog businesses don't model
themselves after that.
Peter
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I was in the laundrymat, and I had just filled up my video ipod with a
bunch of movies (plug: the beta mefeedia makes it real easy), so I was
watching a video of the party at Jakob's place in nyc a while back at
vloggercon... but what I wanted to say was: it was a strangely
emotional experience
I get a nice warm fuzzy felling from services like MeFeedia, BlipTV,
and application-based aggrigators like FireAnt, and iTunes because
they say the video is from (and link back to) DavidMeade.com.
Some even (like MeFeedia) direct the viewer to my site should they
want to leave comments.
I think having promos for vloggers is a great idea. I've been hoping
this would happen. I'll support whatever we do in Mefeedia.
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@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 10/26/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess this is the right time to point out that Mefeedia will
generate the pcast file for you:
http://mefeedia.com/help/javascript/itunes.php?id=1118
Bug report for the windows
Exactly. That's why I never let people comment on a video at mefeedia,
but send them to the blog instead.
p
I myself probably would take advantage of the ability to turn off
comments or moderate them at blip.tv. I've always reserved the
right to just that with any post on my own
Hi all,
I am working on mefeedia this week, and I wanted to ask everyone who
has had problems with their feed in mefeedia to send me an email. That
will help a lot with fixing the problems.
The most common probs are: can't add feed to mefeedia, or there is
something wrong with the instant
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Then pretty much out of the Blue... Major networks whom didn't want
to report this media phenomenon other than spuratic blips... started
to develop their own podcast, which are now the only listings on News
Podcasts On
I was just trying out Typepad's new integrated video posting.
(http://typepad.videoegg.com/faq.html) It makes posting videos really,
really easy. All you do is drag and drop a clip (straight from the
camera or saved on your computer) onto the field. Then you can cut it,
and then click upload, and
I wrote this (in the excitement of having just tried the typepad
thing) before reading the latest posts, and yey, we're already talking
content.
Here are some of the most important things in my mind (they are very
basic):
- you have something to say. Try the videoblogweek for yourself and at
://images.mefeedia.com/video/2005/07/05/07/RUN-13706/frames/90x68/ 44
I get a 404.
On 10/24/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The real Mefeedia API is still a few months off, but
meanwhile, if
you want to use the thumbnails pictures mefeedia generates, you can
use
bear with me, this is like a temporary api until, in a month or 2, we
get the real api :)
P
petertheman wrote:
You have to view source, it's an xml file.
Any chance you could use utf-8 instead of iso-8859-1?
?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
Pete
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petertheman wrote:
The real Mefeedia API is still a few months off, but meanwhile, if
you want to use the thumbnails pictures mefeedia generates, you can
use this:
http://api.mefeedia.com/ant/thumbs.php?url=http://www.momentshowing.net/momentshowing/files/amyjoy.mov
I just got my video ipod today, watching you all vlogs on it, and it's
fantastic.
The biggest surprise is this: you know how we always said that video
is different than audio because you can't do anything else while
watching video?
Not true. With the earplugs in the ipod, I can watch movies,
MEFEEDIA QUESTION:
I was wondering about the Mefeedia thumbs. Is there any reason why
one or two of my videos might be skipped when the thumbnails are
made? At least one of my videos always seems to be missing. I can't
figure it out.
The reason was probably this: until yesterday,
The real Mefeedia API is still a few months off, but meanwhile, if
you want to use the thumbnails pictures mefeedia generates, you can
use this:
http://api.mefeedia.com/ant/thumbs.php?url=http://www.momentshowing.net/momentshowing/files/amyjoy.mov
This api will continue to be supported.
The
Don't freak out :) I changed the Instant Archive code, so that now it
shows ALL your videos, not just the ones we have pictures for.
The result is that your archive will be complete, but not all pictures
will be generated yet.
Here's an example of how that looks:
Oh, one more comment on looking for more subscribers: make sure it's
listed in Mefeedia too. We turn all videos into a MediaRSS feed which
is the ONLY way to get into Yahoo video search through RSS (and we add
thumbs too). (Regular RSS doesn't work, I just heard this on a
podcast). So that's nice
Ted said:
Add a third that are out there that I would like to see more of:
Storytellers.
+1. I totally agree.
--- Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One kind is like mine: personal...like home video.
I dont expect anyone to pay for it.
I'd say that is a BIG part of the vloggers.
Similar
Mefeedia is back up, sorry for the problems with your Instant Archives.
Cheers,
Peter
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
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peter know.
Is Mefeedia down?
Yep,and bad timing too ;) I am trying to figure out what's going on.
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We are totally IN the videoipod. All videobloggers can expect traffic
spikes the following months, so if you need anything sorted out now's
the time.
I installed iTunes6 and it did something very cool: it took all the
videos from my vlogger subscriptions and populated the VIDEO category
with
Now, if I could only get my posts from the last 6 weeks to show up in
mefeediaDon't mean to bitch, but I couldn't resist. Anyway, happy
almost 1000!
Hang in there, working on it as we speak.. Keep bugging me, too.
Peter
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I'd like to start an intelligent conversation about money. Right now,
I am moving Mefeedia to a dedicated server. That costs some money. And
more imnportantly, I am spending a lot of time on it. So I'm thinking
about ways to perhaps turn it from a hobby into a business.
The same issues arise for
Mefeedia shows 997 feeds right now, yey almost 1000! Have you added
yours yet, I want the vlogosphere to break through that 1000 feeds
barrier..
http;//mefeedia.com/feeds/
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I don't think Mefeedia would never do anything intentionally
malicious.
Let's wait and hear from Peter and Blinkx.
I'm at this information architecture conference (this is my day
job), but let me try to asnwer the question. Also feel free to email
me at any time, my email is on the mefeedia
Mefeedia is down, I'm working with Dreamhost to get it back up.
Something seems to have gotten lost with the problem in LA.
Apologies for the inconvenience!
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It's back up - and sorry, I shouldn't have spammed this list.
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Peter
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