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2013-10-24 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
New update available. iOS 7.0.3. They say it contains improvements and big fixes. As of now my iPhone 4S and iPad 3 with iOS 7.0.2 are terribly sluggish and very frustrating. Lets hope this helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a

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2013-10-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face bookwasRe: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. New update available. iOS 7.0.3. They say it contains improvements and big fixes. As of now my iPhone 4S and iPad 3 with iOS 7.0.2

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2013-10-14 Thread B Krosney
hello I don't own an iPhone, but I just purchased an iPod Touch 5th gen. It came loaded with v 6.1.3. Suddenly, I get the notification that the update to iOS v 7. something is ready to install ... seems that it DOWNLOADED it to my device without my knowledge or consent. I PURPOSELY did NOT

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2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
and texting, but no a lot of things. - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I respectfully disagree. I think

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2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
and texting, but no a lot of things. - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I respectfully disagree. I think

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2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
:* Ierne mailto:grattanhe...@gmail.com *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM *Subject:* Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without

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2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute that an iPhone 4 is slower with iOS 7, however, you described that it takes 22 seconds or whatever

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2013-10-10 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I respectfully disagree. I think sluggishness on the iPhone 4 for Voiceover users is the norm not the exception. I think sighted people

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2013-10-10 Thread Pete Nalda
] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 7:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support

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2013-10-10 Thread Troy Sullivan
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Not only on my iPhone 4S its slow, but on my ipad4. It freezes for a few second while I am moving around, especially Mail. It never ever happened with iOS 6.1.3 on this once beloved iPad 3

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-09 Thread Rose Combs
06, 2013 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Raul, I doubt it, iClean overwrites already deleted space with jibberish and basically fills up your phone, at the end you get a message

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2013-10-08 Thread Pablo Morales
...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute that an iPhone 4 is slower with iOS 7, however, you described that it takes 22 seconds or whatever the number

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Ed Barnes
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Ok Sieghard. What ever. the point is not if restoring my iPhone as new device, could help. it could

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2013-10-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute that an iPhone 4 is slower with iOS 7, however, you described that it takes 22 seconds or whatever the number

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Mike Cassidy
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: 07 October 2013 21:08 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Actually, I'm running an iPhone 4 with 32 GB. iOS 7 was quirky

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2013-10-08 Thread Ron Pelletier
... -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute

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2013-10-08 Thread Pete Nalda
, 2013 7:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs 7 makes

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2013-10-07 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
. - Original Message - From: Ierne To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download

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2013-10-07 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. . Hey, letting you know that there is a download for an upgrade is one thing, but actually downloading it to your device without your permission is much worse, and Thhhats

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2013-10-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM *Subject:* Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. So contrary

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
] On Behalf Of glazingfr...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Another problem with iOS 7 update to iPhone 4/s. It makes the entire everything sluggish, even after disabling certain fancy

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2013-10-07 Thread Regina Alvarado
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. So contrary to what David C. has stated, it looks

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2013-10-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
is locked. - Original Message - From: Ierne To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Alan Paganelli
, October 04, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, First, since I’m running an iPhone 5, and its 32GB, this doesn’t really affect me. But, if I was running an iPhone 4, with 16 or even 8GB, I think this would

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2013-10-07 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I don't see how one could complain about a notification. - Original Message - From: glazingfr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:18 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even

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2013-10-07 Thread Troy Sullivan
this person is using a headset. - Original Message - From: Regina Alvarado To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Have you tried turning phone 4s off and back on or even

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Pablo Morales
- From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I respectfully disagree. I think sluggishness on the iPhone 4 for Voiceover users is the norm

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, October 07, 2013 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs 7

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Corey Michael Cook
: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, I don't want to dispute that an iPhone 4 is slower with iOS 7, however, you described that it takes 22 seconds or whatever the number was for the Settings app to open and there is just no way that this is normal behavior. If your

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Corey Michael Cook
: Monday, October 07, 2013 7:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called apple again. Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 7:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would load a new iOS

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Pablo Morales
: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, My question is: Why are people in such a hurry to download and install

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Mary Otten
Jonathan, I really appreciate your posts on this topic. I'm not so sure about consumer laws protecting U.S. consumers in this instance. I admit that I, like 99.9% of other users, did not read all that legal stuff that you agree to when accepting a software license. I have certainly written

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2013-10-06 Thread Ierne
Well this issue changes by the day. Even on 1% battery, without charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02. So contrary to what David C. has stated, it looks as if the charger is now irrelevant. Which is odd, because I was able to stop the download a few days ago by disconnecting the

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Terje Strømberg
2013 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Cara, I think there are many millions of users out there who will probably disagree. I listened to the Today in iOS Podcast tonight and most

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2013-10-06 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Eileen, My problem is that it wastes about 3 giga bytes of space on my precious expensive iOS device. I paid money for space to be used by me and not by Apple pushing in a download that I want do delete and there is no way for me to delete it. Don't you get it? On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:01 AM,

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2013-10-06 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Exactly this issue in this topic brought me here. My iPhone I did update on purpose, but my itouch5 I decided should stick with iOS 6.1.3. I like the colors and rich graphics in it. Whatever my reason is, that's what I decided to do. I use my itouch more for pictures and other things. At some

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker? It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not complaining about smile. I don't

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? Does the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc space so that an app such as this might be able to clean it out? I

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
06, 2013 2:08 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I don't think it's a fact that new software is always buggy. That depends a lot on the software and the testing the software went through before it was released

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2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I don't think it's a fact that new software is always buggy. That depends a lot on the software and the testing the software went through before it was released. The process of finding and fixing bugs is on going

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Cara Quinn
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not complaining about smile. I don't believe

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Ron Pelletier
? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Ron. It could happen, because 2 reasons. 1. The IOs is downloaded automatically to the iPhone, without agreement, without ask, without any warning. Of course, it occupied space in the memory, and when we are talking about an iPhone

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Eileen Misrahi
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. For Mac users, there is an app called

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Eileen, iExplorer is an app which runs on your Mac, which allows you to see your phone's file system and move files to and from it. My thought was that perhaps it might allow people to remove the unwanted OS download from their phone to free up the space they need. Now, I have no idea

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? Does the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc space so that an app

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
How do you know it's downloading? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ierne Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Cara, Thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look, as I am one of those who want to keep the older phone on 1.6.2. It would be nice to get back 3 GB on this phone. Luckily, I still have plenty of storage. Thanks again for supplying the link in your message. Best, Eileen Sent from my

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2013-10-06 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Now that you mention it, my phone when charging is locked. - Original Message - From: Ierne To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well this issue changes by the day. Even

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Hi: Does such a program exist for a Windows based system? Also although a bit slow 7.2 works acceptably fine with a 4. 6.2 was also slow with the 4 but I didn't hear anyone complaining about that. On 10/6/13, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, Thanks for the explanation.

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2013-10-05 Thread James Mannion
I agree with this. Yes there are some bugs, yes there have been bugs in every new version. I have been running IOS 7 since release date, intentionally ignoring the list so as not to hear just on and on about how terrible it is. My own experience has been that it has been like other early versions

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Maybe it depends on your level of expectations, and perception. I thought IOS 6 on an iPhone 4 was slow. I’ve used an iPhone 4 with IOS 7, and found it really, really, slow. haha. I mean, the hardware is three and a half years old, has 512MB of RAM, 1 core, etc. And we are now talking

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Pablo Morales
bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Ricardo, I understand Pablo's frustration to some degree. However, Pablo has an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 4 and he chose, and chose is the important word here, to upgrade both devices to iOS 7. He complained just as much a year ago

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If we're talking about IOS 7 then the comparison has to be with an iPhone 4 running IOS 7 versus the same iPhone 4 running IOS 6. Of course the new iPhone 5s will perform better with IOS 7 than an iPhone 4. the same was true with IOS 6. I myself am running IOS 7 on an iPhone 4S, and I don't

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Regina Alvarado
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, I just have a complain about Ios 7. It makes my iPhone 4, a old iPhone of 16Gb, a little bit slow. Also, some times I try

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2013-10-05 Thread tcorson2
and is taking up that space. Donna tcors...@cfl.rr.com -Original Message- From: Regina Alvarado Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I have a question

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Regina Alvarado
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker? It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a half-full

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Yeah. I pointed out most of what you mentioned below. But, being able to work with something doesn’t mean that it will work well. I mean, I remember Windows XP minimum requirements were a joke. Maybe, you could get a machine running with Microsofts posted minimum requirements but, I

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ron Pelletier
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ron Pelletier
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded. The rest of those of us who

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
- From: Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right away

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. Is it slower than my iPhone 5? Yes. But, I think 5 seconds to open most apps is a bit of an exaggeration. Sure, some apps might take a while

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Neal Ewers
, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
- From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Gary Petraccaro
...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would load a new iOS without someone

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded. The rest of those of us who

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded. The rest of those of us who are concerned here either loaded

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
it when ever we want, if we want. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory stick or a device where you can load

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory stick or a device where you can load your own operating system. You didn't just buy a piece of hardware

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
, 2013 4:24 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. So, you have two choices currently. You can go with Apple, who is focused on user experience. This company has learned that the vast majority of their users prefers the upgraded

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, it could

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ricardo, I understand Pablo's frustration to some degree. However, Pablo has an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 4 and he chose, and chose is the important word here, to upgrade both devices to iOS 7. He complained just as much a year ago when he upgraded from iOS 5 to iOS 6 which is why Raul posted

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right away, it could

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Pablo Morales
, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Also, 5 seconds is too much. We have to use the iPhone when we are on the streets, when we are going to the store, when we get a ride, and we need

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Dawn Petty
, September 27, 2013 1:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi all, I too am using an iPod Touch 5th gen, and I don't feel any of the temporary bugs in the IOS7 are impacting my use of my device

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Alan Paganelli
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. Is it slower than my iPhone 5

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Message - From: Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Pete Nalda
: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. Is it slower than my iPhone 5? Yes. But, I think 5 seconds to open

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread RobH.
, 2013 3:19 AM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. let me say it again. If I pay a product, so I am the owner. Why apple has right on my property? I feel something agains the property right here. - Original Message - From: Ierne To: viphone

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread RobH.
The network connection in progress on the status line is often a good clue. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Just out

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Joanne Chua
wrote: The network connection in progress on the status line is often a good clue. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Irene, The iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new. Needless to say, it isn't getting very far on 3G. Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, Come on! Impossible. On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Ierne

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but if you are on iOS 6 and you are jailbroken, there is a tweak called SoftwareUpdateKiller and guess what? It prevents software updates from getting forced on you in case you feel they are doing that. So far it's worked nicely. I upgraded my iPad

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
OK fair enough, but you people, and by that statement, I mean the people who are complaining about this, are not realizing that this isn't something new. This has been going on since iOS 5. So, why the fuss now all of a sudden? Also, this isn't something targeting blind people specifically

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Well that's true, but then again, major operating system upgrades for Windows aren't free either. -- Raul A. Gallegos Just witnessed an ant crawl under one of my keys. Don't worry, It's under CTRL. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 9/27/2013 1:56 PM, Michael Malver

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that sounds like you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs slower on older phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up. i just can't buy that. -- Raul A. Gallegos Oh I'm not arguing, I'm simply explaining why I'm right. -

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
that works--this is where Apple steps in. Joseph - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:26 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Please do keep us up to date. Rather than speculation, please do let us know what happens with this if you would? Thanks so much! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:26 PM Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Cara, Funny you should say that. I was told

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Mike Arrigo
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! lol! Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy colors or stark

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