Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-06 Thread Angie Nutt
In the main, FaceID has worked better for me than TouchID but neither 100 per cent. I also find that with faceID I have to hold the phone further away than I’d like if I’m on a bus. In that case, when it worked, TouchID was better. On balance though, prefer faceID. All the best Angie > On 4

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2021-10-05 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah I do, I've never been able to get it to work properly, I'm going to update / grade my watch in a week or so when the series 7 comes out, Then I'll try it again. I probably missed a step in the setup process. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-05 Thread Carolyn
I use face ID and have for almost two years, totally blind, it works OK. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 1:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: This is why you

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-05 Thread Carolyn
I think/hope that too about touch and face ID. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 8:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 I

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-05 Thread Les Kriegler
Yes, attention settings are off. Thanks for the suggestion. Les > On Oct 5, 2021, at 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > And for me it's the opposite, Face Id is more reliable. Les, did you turn off > attention? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Simon, thought you had an Apple Watch? You can set it up so your iPhone unlocks with a mask on as long as you are wearing your Apple Watch. Only time this doesn't work is to authenticate an Apple Pay purchase, but then again you could simply use the watch in the first place for the purchase and

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-05 Thread chrisjudge1967
I have face id working flawlessly. Even the mask isn't an issue as I have the apple watch, and have it set to unlock my phone in the event it can't recognize my face. Chris Judge -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: October 5, 2021

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-05 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah I couldn't go back to touch id, The face id of my 11 pro max is great and just as quick if not quicker for me than touch, Unless I'm wearing a mask. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2021 6:36 pm To:

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And for me it's the opposite, Face Id is more reliable. Les, did you turn off attention? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: October 4, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It wouldn't be especially if you turn off attention mode and since you haven't used an iPhone without a home button I would say reserve your judgement you might be surprised. I find Face Id is much more reliable than Touch Id. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread lenron brown
I think touch id and face id will co exist on a phone. Apple will make it happen. On 10/4/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Yeah > > I saw this a week or so back, > > I was surprised that they came out with it so soon after the 13 release. > > I'm still more interested in the folding iphone than the

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah I saw this a week or so back, I was surprised that they came out with it so soon after the 13 release. I'm still more interested in the folding iphone than the 14 or 15 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, 5 October

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I have an iPhone 11, and I can use face ID just fine. That doesn't mean I prefer it over touch ID. Just because I prefer touch ID over face ID doesn't mean I struggle with change or don't think I can use an iPhone! I totally get why others may prefer face ID. Sometimes preferring one

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Carolyn
Probably all of us have the problem with moving eyes. I can work face ID with or without glasses, in light or dark, although I had to set it in good light. The guy at Wal-Mart could not get it set. I did on a bright and sunny winter afternoon on the west side of our building. I cannot make it

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread chrisjudge1967
Touch id worked well for me as well, unless my fingers were cold, or the least bit sweaty. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: October 4, 2021 4:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Carolyn
I am glad not to have a Home Button now. If touch ID was possible, I probably would get it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject:

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Les Kriegler
Well, I have been using Face ID for close to a year. I can state one fat categorically. Touch ID worked essentially 100% of the time for me. Face ID does not. It works the majority of the time, but certainly not always. Wow I can live with Face ID, I do hope that Apple comes out with a touch ID

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
Just so I'm clear, I'm by no means saying that just because I miss the home button doesn't mean I couldn't operate a phone without one, I just like it, that's all. I have not used a phone with face ID yet, as I have the latest SE Version that I upgraded to from my 8. With that being said, I

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread chrisjudge1967
I don't mis the home button at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: October 4, 2021 3:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 I think almost all visually impaired users find the

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Alex Stone
I agree, but I think there are quite a few people who have been convinced that they couldn’t cope without a home button by people who don’t know what they’re talking about. Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Oct 2021, at 19:36, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Alex, we are all creatures of habit and for

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Alex, we are all creatures of habit and for some change is more difficult to deal with than for others. I feel the same about when people install these shells on a Windows PC, first they would want Windows 7 look like XP and now with Windows 10 they want Windows 10 to look and feel like Windows

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2021-10-04 Thread Alex Stone
Sieghart, I completely agree. How some blind i or Vi people act as though the lack of a home makes the entire device completely inaccessible. Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Oct 2021, at 19:28, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I think almost all visually impaired users find the lack of a home button

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I think almost all visually impaired users find the lack of a home button to be not a big deal once you get used to the swipe up from the bottom. For me it's at a point where I always try to swipe up on the iPad we have at my store before I remember "Oh, this has a home button". I mean what

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I wouldn't say this although I just read an article which summarized some of the recently leaked rumours about the iPhone 14 by John Prosser and Ming-Chi Kuo who have a record of accurately predicting a lot of future features and there is no word about touch Id until the iPhone 15. The main

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I don't miss the home button, and in fact, I kind of like not having it get in the way of things like braille screen input. My preference for touch ID over face ID has nothing to do with me being blind or being a VoiceOver user. I just like being able to unlock my phone without having to

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
I'm personally still bothered by the fact that they got rid of the home button If they get rid of touch id wouldn't that make it harder for VO users? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:49 PM To:

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, there's also customer demand. I know if all things were equal, and I had the option to have touch ID included, then I'd go with the phone that offered me touch ID. I don't know if the demand is strong enough for Apple to consider this, or if Apple would even take this into account. I'd

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-10-04 Thread Ed Worrell
I really don’t think Apple is going to utilize Touch ID in the iPhones going forward. Face ID works beautifully and it gets better with every release. Apple keeps updating patents for Touch ID which means they’re actively working on it, but this also means if they keep updating the patents

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-09-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty
This was mentioned in a mac rumours release They believe the under screen touch id will be in the 2023 release of the iPhone and a folding iPhone in 2024 Me, Don't care I just know it will get here when it gets here. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-09-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Why are you so sure the iPhone 14 won't have under-glass Touch Id or incorporate a Touch Id side button?? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: September 23, 2021 7:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This is why you should wait

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-09-23 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Could anyone suggest me any physical keypad usable with iPhone 12 Mini? I want a portable pocket size keypad to use it on the go. On 9/24/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Thanks an interesting article, > > But again we’re so far out no one really knows what’s happening > > But good to hear possible

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-09-23 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Thanks an interesting article, But again we’re so far out no one really knows what’s happening But good to hear possible options. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, 24 September 2021 5:21 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: This is why you should

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-09-23 Thread Kelly Pierce
Links worked fine. My comment was for those holding their breath for the iPhone 14. Their beloved fingerprint reader will not be happening. For those of us who crave small phones, jump on the iPhone 13 before it goes away. It’s double the storage of last year’s 12 for the same price. Kelly On

RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
Kelly, Are you sending this to show that the links broke up on you? The links worked fine for me in Outlook on my computer. Are you set to read HTML eemails? Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site:

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

2021-09-23 Thread Kelly Pierce
On 9/23/21, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Forget Apple's iPhone 13, this is the smartphone to > buy > > And if you really need a new phone now, here is another