Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
I was just thinking that even when a moderator asks a topic to stop, there are going to be a few messages from people who didn't read it by the time they had already responded. That's normal and to be expected. However when some of you continue writing on a closed thread even though you

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-27 Thread Rose Combs
I was offended by someone would so bluntly post a message asking for a gift. This is all I have to say on the subject. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:22 AM To:

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-27 Thread Ron Pelletier
And, may I ask, didn't all of you who took exception to his post did not simply exercise their right to press the delete key and get on with life. It would have been a lot more pleasant for all on list. Just a thought Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com

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2014-12-26 Thread Joanne Chua
I think the mods should really take some action against such behaviour. It is a spam for the list. Joke from a friend of a member, who manage to log in as the member, and manage to post such thing to an email list is rather, unacceptable. Is like, i took my mum's credit card, and wne to get

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2014-12-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Definitely some poor judgement here and all that. But what if a friend was over and maybe your computer was on and your friend knew you were on this list and they posted some stupid message as yourself, you would probably hope not to be banned from this list. Anyhow, I guess it's time to drop

Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All, Firstly, happy holidays to those who celebrate various end-of-year holidays and joy also to those who do not. You all rock! :) Now, you all sure love drama here! :) -And, for the record, I am posting on this now as there is a bit of an outcry from several here for moderation. I've

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Charles Rivard
Tell your friend to be like Santa in the spring time. Give him some garden tools and tell him to hoe, hoe, hoe. (Sorry, but I had to get rid of that awful pun. Have a happy new year. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are!

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Charles Rivard
I figured that you had not moderated the list because, just like us, you are humans. You were probably celebrating the Holidays just like we were. You were spending quality time with friends and families. I don't blame either of you for not stopping the thread in a timely manner. I respect

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Flor Lynch
I hope though that we haven't forgotten what Scrooge eventually learned. Laugh. Have a good Christmas and New Year break, all. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 3:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Flor Lynch
Definitely that sort of thing can happen, even to a tech person (who trusted some younger nephewsnieces , as did happen to a friend of mine some years ago. The young'un sent emails with rather unflttering nicknames to a listserv friend was on, and I was surrprised at it all. -Original

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Karen, if you and your co-owner ever need any assistance during holidays or Times that you are busy y'all can always feel free to asked somebody like myself off list to do this as I would not mind hoping out in any way that I possibly can. Thank you very much for stopping the thread and you

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Charles Rivard
Who is Karen? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Moderator Note -was-

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm sure you already know this, but Joseph is referring to and responding to Cara, the list owner. On 12/26/2014 03:40 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: Who is Karen? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi yes, I was referring to Cara. Sorry for the confusion. On Dec 26, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Who is Karen? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From:

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-26 Thread Charles Rivard
Darned screen readers, anyway. I've known some people from the United Kingdom who were referring to a game by the name mark one instead of mach one because of the screen reader's voice not pronouncing the r, like saying pot instead of part. I figured that was the case, and was giving you an

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi, I would be able to gift you a £25 iTunes gift card, but there would be a £30 administration fee to cover the time taken to send you the information. If this is acceptable please email me off list I will organize the gift ASAP. Cheers, Ben. On 12/25/14, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it. On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Corey Cook
If u need it work for it Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would I have the bad taste to

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard
You forgot the shipping and handling and the tax!! --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard
I would, but only in pure jest. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: alia robinson ali...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re:

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Merv Keck
Hi, I want a Hippopotamus for Christmas? Anyone gifting those? Merv -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you

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2014-12-25 Thread RobH.
I got a hippy Potty mouse, will that do? R, H. - Original Message - From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please! Hi, I want a

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Terrie Terlau
Hello everyone, I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I don't think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list.

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2014-12-25 Thread Patti Johnson
Ditto, Terrie! I mean, what is this day all about but to show compassion and kindness to our fellow human beings, not to get smart alecky and snide to some one that in truth may come from a place where he doesn't have all the resources we all do. Drop the sarcasm, please! It's just not right.

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2014-12-25 Thread Eileen Misrahi
THANKS Terry for your post. I was taken back when I read the posts, especialally on a holiday such as Christmas. All of the religious holidays being celebrated during this time of year always express joy, harmony, and peace, whichever holiday one observes. I'm wondering where the old saying of

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
I don’t celebrate this day as some don’t, and if we let one person ask for money/gifts then everyone should be able, so hey throw some my way! personally I have no interest in a list like that. I come here for help/advice, period. On Dec 25, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Patti Johnson

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kamal Haffar
Well said Terrie, thanks for speaking on behalf of many folks on this list. I couldn't and maybe the responses could be in the spirit of the -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau Sent: Thursday, December 25,

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Terrie, Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now I will just support you and add a few thoughts. I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina and having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have seen what not

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2014-12-25 Thread Jose Lomeli
Exactly well said! Please people leave the sarcasm behind it's not helping you in any way! Jose Lomeli Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Terrie, Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now I

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2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
Hello, all. I have been reading the responses and trying to formulate my own. I think that not only do we need to step out of our North American mind set but also please remember that upon first glance, that request might look suspicious. It is of utmost importance to think before we answer

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2014-12-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
We can't control who joins the list, and we can't control what posts make it to the list. Obviously, there needs to be some guidelines on what is and isn't appropriate to post to the list, but we also need to respond responsibly to the posts we do see on the list. We need to have a bit of a

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
and does anyone think this is spam? I one time sold an iPhone and got a $300 pay pal deposit for it which I didn’t act on since it was a scam and I did not send him the phone as he was from Africa I believe. On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: You forgot

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2014-12-25 Thread Dave Sheridan
Well said Terrie. My understanding is that this is a support group, yes for all things related to i'devices but a support group. Sarcasm amounts to bullying and in my opinion doesn't belong here. We're all capable of making rash and unfair judgements so reading back what one has written before

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
asking for money and gifts on a technical public support list is bad netiquette, and will get you banned on most lists I am on. I am here to help people with their tech issues, not to be asked for money/gifts. On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Dave Sheridan dsherida...@icloud.com wrote: Well

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
it’s just bad all around. Alia On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote: and does anyone think this is spam? I one time sold an iPhone and got a $300 pay pal deposit for it which I didn’t act on since it was a scam and I did not send him the phone as he was from

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2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
but imo there are places for that. I wouldn’t go on a list about cats, and gush about my dog, nor do I think a tech list is the place for asking for things. It could get to the point where the list is used for it, and who knows who might get ripped off then complain here, and where does it end?

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2014-12-25 Thread May McDonald Homuth
I totally agree. This was totally bad taste. Why not ask your family and friends? May and LD, Luna Moon! www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO

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2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
nothing surprises me anymore. Andy -Original Message- From: alia robinson Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please! I don’t come on this list to listen to someone

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
But what is the difference between this solicitation and that of the nigerian princess? I might even decide to give this kind of gift in this situation, but not based on a vague solicitation from a total stranger. Andy -Original Message- From: Jose Lomeli Sent: Thursday, December

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2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard
I could understand a starving person asking total strangers for food, but I would never ask an entire group in an effort to find someone to buy or give me an app. Food would be for survival, but an app certainly is not. They are in no way similar. When I read the request, I noticed that it

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2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
When i bought my first PC, I was told that I would also have to buy software. If this person wants the app, he obviously has an iPhone. Also, there are other much cheaper apps. Maybe not as good, but if you can't afford a Cadillac and you need transportation, you settle for a Chevy, or even a

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2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
It would be interesting to know if those who felt that the post was appropriate actually gave him any money. Andy -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of

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2014-12-25 Thread Dave Sheridan
Hi Andy I suggest you read the posts of those who felt the initial responses to Ram Kalia's post was harsh as not one stated that his post was appropriate for this list as you have suggested. I think Terrie's post in respect of this was very clear and succinct and well worth revisiting. Dave

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2014-12-25 Thread Terrie Terlau
Hi again, To those who have written about the inappropriateness of Ram's request, I think that we all agree that the request is inappropriate and that we should not give money to someone that we don't know who asks by email. My point earlier was that we might be kinder in how we respond.

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2014-12-25 Thread Victor Gouveia
I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator. So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad to say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that is

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2014-12-25 Thread Victor Gouveia
I should have also mentioned that it states in the rules that if you don't like a post from another member, there should be no flaming or bashing on list, simply contact the moderators and they will handle it, so, technically speaking, all the bashers, and, I'm sorry to say, all the messages of

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2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard
For me, it's not hatred for a person. How could it be if I don't know the person? It is the content of the original post that bothers me, and don't we all have a right to voice our opinion on the matter? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're

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2014-12-25 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
When I first heard about this app, I had to save for two months to be able to afford it. Everyone is in different circumstances, some better than others, and it was tough seeing others who were just able to plop down $100 like that, but I had to be patient. I think it’s beneath our dignity as

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
On the point on whether you have the right to voice your opinion on the matter or not, I'll just point you to the statement at the bottom of every message on this list, where it says: If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Joanne Chua
I'm surprise that the mods haven't interveen in this message. Eitherhow, if you can't afford $74.95 or $99.95, what about consider Prizmo for $4.95? its on sales at the moment, as part of the boxing day itune store deals. On 26/12/2014, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: On the point

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
I know nothing of the Nigerian princess, Andy and to add to another post you made, yes he has an iPhone but that may have been a gift as well. For example, my nephew Luke got an iPad for Christmas so just because he has a phone/pad, doesn’t mean anything. On Dec 25, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Andy

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
For me, it is a matter of internet security and warning of a possible scam. Andy -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
I held back because of financial issues, but the discount made it possible for me to obtain it. Andy -Original Message- From: Brandon A. Olivares Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers' On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com wrote: I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator. So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and while

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2014-12-25 Thread ram kalia
hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend wrote this message using my id he was joking and nothing at all I kicked him he was just playing and nothing serious at all just holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and happy xmas and new year to all take it in a good

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2014-12-25 Thread ram kalia
sorry friends don't fight my friend screwd all I already scolded him please understand the mind of college teenager being adults you all please ignore and enjoy don't fight for any unintentionally done mistake he is also feeling sorry for this . do forgive him and merry xmas and happy new

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2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
I cannot believe this. Someone was willing to send you money for this and it’s a joke? On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:40 PM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote: sorry friends don't fight my friend screwd all I already scolded him please understand the mind of college teenager being adults

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2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
But you can understand why we might have thought that you were perhaps the victim of a hacker, malware, etc. This could be a teachable moment for you, your cousin, etc. Andy -Original Message- From: ram kalia Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

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2014-12-25 Thread Cristóbal
More likely he didn't realise the dust up his post would cause and how poorly it would be received. Whether a friend did indeed do it, which I don’t' really believe at all, hopefully this whole thread will go away now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com

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2014-12-25 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Joke or no joke, where are the monitors of this group? For a member of this list serve to post a prank should be band from the list. There have been many posts on this thread that are beginning to clutter up my inbox. This thread needs to be closed. I know I'm not a monitor or the list owner,