Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-23 Thread Gary Petraccaro
, September 16, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 hi all. I 'm not surprised with the bugs in the new ios8. I expected this. apple in recent times has been to ignore the beta testrs and each time it will be worse ... We

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-22 Thread mário navarro
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-22 Thread Charles Rivard
Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Gmail
13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
Will ios 8 work with the 4s? From: Gmail Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Jonathan, that's really nice of you! I'm super excited to read your book and find out all about iOS 8! Can't

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Yes John Diakogeorgiou On Sep 16, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe alapoint...@comcast.net wrote: Will ios 8 work with the 4s? From: Gmail Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Christina C.
: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Christina C.
of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Alan Paganelli
available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:10 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I'm looking forward to the book for sure. Pre

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Todd W
viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 It's useable, and iOS 8 is stabil, but you may run into some inconveniences. It's hard for me to tell somebody

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Grant Hardy
to identify a lot now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Can you provide the website with the 6 and 6+ cutouts? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Christina, we

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Christina, we can expect the release of iOS 8 at 10 AM

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread RobH.
Did I pass a rot13 filter in iOs once?... that would do it. - Original Message - From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:14 AM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 LOL, I sent a message recently that read

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread RobH.
O very good. How? Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:23 AM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 You've been able to download multiple HQ voices since IOS 7, so I

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Pablo Morales
] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The only reason I am even considering upgrading is that my wife cracked the screen on her 5. I would probably only upgrade any of the 4's

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Ricardo Walker
.\ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The only reason I am even considering upgrading

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Chaltain
. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I went from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5s. That was the difference between

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Ricardo Walker
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I went from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5s. That was the difference

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Wayne Merritt
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The only reason I am even considering upgrading is that my wife cracked the screen on her 5. I would

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Cristóbal
those huge sizes.\ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The only reason

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Alan Paganelli
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 11:10 AM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 My sighted wife’s got a 4S and is completely happy with it. She uses her 64GB iPad Air for most things and uses the iPhone as would you believe it? A phone… She

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Pablo Morales
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I went from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5s. That was the difference between night

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Gmail
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The only reason I am even considering upgrading is that my wife cracked

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Alan Paganelli
in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
, 2014 4:42 AM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 For me, this iPhone 6, or 6+ are a little bit huge. I don't think that I will upgrade to those phones, are so big, and I am very active, and I don't feel so comfortable a mini iPad in my pocket, running every where. I am no so

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Same here. Nothing wrong with my 4s but can upgrade to a faster phone at any time. Will use the 4s as an iPod Touch Fifth Generation. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 15/09/2014 04:49, Lori Dent wrote: Hi Sieghard, There's nothing wrong with

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
voice would add a nice change, so long as it wasn't wall2wall Alex. Rh. - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:40 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I've already

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Terje Strømberg
:* Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:24 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Sieghard, So what your saying is ios 8 has major bug issues, am I right? If that's the case,I can't even upgrade my iPhone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus until

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Mikayla Gephart
- From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The female compact voice is still the default. You still have to download the high quality voice and if you want Alex you have

texting habits - Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
Message - From: Gail the U. S. Male To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:15 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 yeah, some of us actually do use it as a phone! LOL! I'd rather talk to someone than text! that's just me. My kids

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:12 AM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 While I often dictate phone numbers that I wish to dial, there are occasions that I need

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
:14 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi, I think for the iPhone 6+ I understand the concern. but the iPhone 6, the 4.7 inch display, doesn't sound overly burdensome to me. obviously, it depends on the clothes you normally wear, and how large or small your

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 My wife used some measuring tape to show me how big 4.7 and 5.5 inches were, and the 4.7 did not look that much bigger than my current iPhone 5. In fact, after seeing

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Lynn Schneider
] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Mikayla Gephart
. Rh. - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:11 AM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I'm actually glad that Samantha is going to stay around. Ever since Karen got updated

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Laurie, I wouldn't hold off just because there's major bugs to some but not others. Every initial release is going to have problems, or else no updates would be necessary. And the bugs don't just affect us as well; the general public may or may not have problems as well. So whether you should

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:37 PM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
...@iol.ie To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:11 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 but Isn't the Apple Wireless keyboard considered a Bluetooth keyboard? I believe it is. one would've hoped they tested and figured in BT keyboards

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
13, 2014 10:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Sieghard, So what your saying is ios 8 has major bug issues, am I right? If that's the case,I can't even upgrade my iPhone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus until January 2015, when my 2 year

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I should think she will remain and so you should have a choice. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 20:48, Alan Paganelli wrote: So does this mean that the present voice over female voice will disappear or will it remain giving users

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: PHILLIP TRACY To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I have been testing

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Very good article, many thanks. Seemed to be other links to other good articles. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com To: ViPone list

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well, I will just say that there are bugs, some minor others major depending on your usage scenarios, but otherwise very usable at least for me. Just a disclaimer I am a tester. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 16:49, John

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Mikayla Gephart
What is the video description feature Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: Here is a link to an article by Steven Aquino about the accessibility features in iOS 8:

a hard time visualizing the phone's size - Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
, 2014 5:14 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi, I think for the iPhone 6+ I understand the concern. but the iPhone 6, the 4.7 inch display, doesn't sound overly burdensome to me. obviously, it depends on the clothes you normally wear, and how large or small

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Same here and I don't think Apple has listened to me either even though they seemed keen to help me out with any feedback or bugs I have sent to them. Obviously not going to be specific until release day. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Alex Stone
Richard, thanks for this, I think I heard about some of these when ios8 was announced, but I’d forgotten about some. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 13 September 2014 16:28 To: ViPone list Subject: overview of

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Alan Paganelli
- From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:41 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Well yes. I have a 4s and can upgrade at any time despite me being in a two year contract. So I plan to get

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The thing I like about the 5s is the extra row of apps. You get 20 instead of 16 on a page. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
, September 13, 2014 12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 So does this mean that the present voice over female voice will disappear or will it remain giving users a choice? Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 So does this mean that the present voice over female voice will disappear or will it remain giving users a choice? Regards

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I can't answer this at the moment, stay tuned though. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 18:57, Mikayla Gephart wrote: What is the video description feature Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Stephanie
Where can you get those? I'd never found one yet. Steph - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:37 am Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 You could always

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Alan Paganelli
- From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:33 AM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Alan, Any of the 4 inch iPhones have the extra row of apps, this means the 5, 5C and 5S. I guess the 6 and definitely the 6

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Alan Paganelli
. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 1:55 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I should think she will remain and so you should have a choice

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
...@earthlink.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:40 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 It's ok, sooner or later you'll get a new iPhone! LOL! Then you shall know my son! LOL! Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Charles Rivard
...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:51 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Where can you get those? I'd never found one yet. Steph - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Gmail
: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 You could always get a case with a belt clip. That's my preferred way to carry my iPhone. Thanks, Ari On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ricardo. Well, for me, the 5s, is already big. .7

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Gmail
features in iOS 8 Where can you get those? I'd never found one yet. Steph - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:37 am Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-15 Thread Jonathan Mosen
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Sieghard, So what your saying is ios 8 has major bug issues, am I right? If that's the case,I can't even upgrade my iPhone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus until January 2015, when my 2 year contract with att is up. Then I can

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread RobH.
: I'd like something different on the mMini if I could, too. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:05 PM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The female compact voice is still

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread RobH.
, September 14, 2014 5:11 AM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I'm actually glad that Samantha is going to stay around. Ever since Karen got updated in iOS 7, I've hated her, thus making me switch to Samantha. She took a while to get used to, but I don't find her too bad

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Sieghard, So what your saying is ios 8 has major bug issues, am I right? If that's the case,I can't even upgrade my iPhone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus until January 2015, when my 2 year contract with att is up. Then I can upgrade to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus.Now do

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Les Kriegler
, September 13, 2014 10:24 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Sieghard, So what your saying is ios 8 has major bug issues, am I right? If that's the case,I can't even upgrade my iPhone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus until January 2015

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Alan Paganelli
, September 13, 2014 12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 So does this mean that the present voice over female voice will disappear or will it remain giving users a choice? Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Alan Paganelli
PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Sieghard, So what your saying is ios 8 has major bug issues, am I right? If that's the case,I can't even upgrade my iPhone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus until January 2015, when my 2 year

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread RobH.
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:40 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I've already downloaded all the English high quality voices for my 5s. It's one of the advantages os saving up your money until you can buy the iPhone with the largest size hard drive you

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Alan Paganelli
...@earthlink.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:40 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I've already downloaded all the English high quality voices for my 5s. It's one of the advantages os saving up your money until you can buy the iPhone

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Remember too that a show stopping bug for one person might be just an an annoyance to another. I know I updated to IOS 7 when it first came out

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Cristóbal
another good thing about Apple, their devices hold up Spec wise and value. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I went from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5s. That was the difference between night and day and made

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
the heck they're trying to say! - Original Message - From: Cristóbal To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 1:10 PM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 My sighted wife’s got a 4S and is completely happy with it. She uses her 64GB iPad

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Tess
Of Cristóbal Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 My sighted wife's got a 4S and is completely happy with it. She uses her 64GB iPad Air for most things and uses the iPhone as would you believe it? A phone

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread AppleGourmet
Siegherd!! Thank you very much! your opinion is invaluable, your advice is always reliable and your comments usually very very accurate. I always like to read your emails because you have a balanced and reasonable approach. please keep up the good work. Vest wishes many blessings! Thank you

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-14 Thread Feliciano G
for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:39 PM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Lori, First of all, yes, any new iDevice will come with iOS 8 preinstalled as of next

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2014-09-14 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:39 PM Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Hi Lori, First of all, yes, any new iDevice will come with iOS 8

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2014-09-14 Thread Rose Combs
not in a million years. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 The only reason I am even

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2014-09-14 Thread Rose Combs
Of Gail the U. S. Male Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 yeah, some of us actually do use it as a phone! LOL! I'd rather talk to someone than text! that's just me. My kids on the other hand, would

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2014-09-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
, so long as it wasn't wall2wall Alex. Rh. - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:40 PM Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 I've already downloaded all the English high

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2014-09-14 Thread Lori Dent
Hi Sieghard, There's nothing wrong with my iPhone 5. I just figured come January I would go ahead an upgrade my iphone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus because my 2 year contract will be up and I would be eligible to upgrade. Plus I want the newer model of the iPhone weather it's the iPhone 6 or the

RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

2014-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying “Screen Locked” twice which it did for a long time after

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2014-09-13 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year

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2014-09-13 Thread PHILLIP TRACY
I have been testing also, and I must agree wholeheartedly. It really is sad, Apple is really slipping these days. we certainly don't need to be rude, but we do need to be as forceful as possible. We need to be loud, and we need to draw attention to the fact that these things are being ignored.

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2014-09-13 Thread RobH.
Very good article, many thanks. Seemed to be other links to other good articles. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:27 PM Subject: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Here

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2014-09-13 Thread Rose Combs
of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which

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2014-09-13 Thread Alan Paganelli
So does this mean that the present voice over female voice will disappear or will it remain giving users a choice? Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know

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2014-09-13 Thread Cheryl Homiak
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard

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2014-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
in order to stop the DialTone. Regards, sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

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2014-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 So does this mean that the present voice over female voice will disappear or will it remain giving users a choice? Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being

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2014-09-13 Thread Alex Hall
Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things

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2014-09-13 Thread M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 It's useable, and iOS 8 is stabil, but you may run into some inconveniences. It's hard for me to tell somebody to go ahead or not because everybody is different. Keep

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2014-09-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use

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