Re: Choosing a phone company

[juan mojena]

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of 
a  phone made by a company called one plus
It is reputed to be a very good company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  
very good  phones.however, their tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and 
their warranty company is much worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it 
ended up costing more than $600 with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT 
didn’t want to buy another phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in 
wording because I’m using Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It 
seems to repeat the phrase is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that 
you dictate. So I’m sorry for that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T? 

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juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


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On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



   I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to 
see if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than 
AT and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do 
they think about the service?
   Thank you very much in advance.
   Juan
   
   
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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Gadget Girl]

Hi there!

I have an 'old school', Brand New, still in the manufacturer's box, full-size 
ergonomic keyboard by Microsoft.  I purchased it in the Win 32 USB, Windows 
XP/Mac era.  Keyboard has never been used.  Only recently opened to examine 
contents inside the box since never opened after purchase.  Just never got to 
it.  Box in excellent, Like-New condition.  Still wrapped in box as Microsoft 
left it.  Getting Started booklet and software included.  No missing parts.  
From clean, dry climate-controlled storage.  Non-Smoking/Pet-Free environment.

Unsure if Keyboard speaks or can work with VoiceOver since a Copyright on the 
box reads, 2005 Microsoft Corp.  Also unsure if Keyboard offers Bluetooth, as 
Keyboard uses a wire to plug in, but at least, that could be another option for 
your Client.

Now cleaning out Office closet which has Brand New & Lightly Enjoyed 'Blasts 
from the Past'!  This is the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 with 
Advanced Ergonomic Desighn.  I will be posting this item on the BlindAds list.  
Thanks. 

Best regards,
Anita K.



> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
> I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on 
> his Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
> iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
> I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.
>  
> iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are 
> a touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is 
> where the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
> Not impressed.
> normal
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Carolyn]

What is a 1 6 T? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


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On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

 

I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying 
to see if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than 
AT and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do 
they think about the service?
Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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Re: iOS reading eBooks

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I agree, for reading unprotected Ebooks, then hands down Voice Dream
Reader.  You can even purchase additional text to speech voices to
make the reading experience all the better.

On 6/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> If they are not DRM protected eBooks, then Voice Dream Reader hands-down.
> If you buy a Kindle book, you would have to read it in the Kindle app,
> unless you have Windows then there is a utility that can convert them to a
> generic ePub book that can be read in Voice Dream Reader.
> If you buy an eBook from iTunes, you have to read it in the Apple Books
> app.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci
> Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iOS reading eBooks
>
> Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my iDevices.
> Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am thinking of
> searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking.
>
> I appreciate some tech guidance .
>
> Thanks,
> Traci
>
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RE: iOS reading eBooks

[Richard Turner]

If they are not DRM protected eBooks, then Voice Dream Reader hands-down.
If you buy a Kindle book, you would have to read it in the Kindle app, unless 
you have Windows then there is a utility that can convert them to a generic 
ePub book that can be read in Voice Dream Reader.
If you buy an eBook from iTunes, you have to read it in the Apple Books app.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS reading eBooks

Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my iDevices. 
Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am thinking of 
searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking. 

I appreciate some tech guidance . 

Thanks, 
Traci  

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Re: battery drain while listening to nls books

[Barbara Stahl]

If you notice significant battery drain, you can try putting the phone in low 
power mode while listening. You can do this through settings or with seri by 
asking seri to turn on low power mode. You can turn it off again by telling 
seri to turn off low power mode. 
I have done this with apps like I heart radio which is a major battery drainer. 
the difference in battery drainage was immediately noticeable.  So you could 
try this method. 

> On Jun 17, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
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> 
>Hi all. Many people on this list have talked about listening 
> !NLS or bookshare  books. I’m wondering if you experience high battery drain 
> and if so, how do you deal with it. I’m guessing that carrying a backup 
> battery is the best solution, but I wonder if there are battery saving tips 
> that I’m missing. Thanks much for everyone on this list who give such helpful 
> and supportive information.
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iOS reading eBooks

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, I don't have a lot of experience reading full eBooks on my iDevices. 
Which handles this task better, iTune's books or Kindle? I am thinking of 
searching the txt, highlighting and/or bookmarking. 

I appreciate some tech guidance . 

Thanks, 
Traci  

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Re: Choosing a phone company

[juan mojena]

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


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On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:


Visible is an awesome company.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
 
I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:

I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see 
if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT 
and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they 
think about the service?
Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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Getting back to ear piece receiver with Google Voice app iPhone8+

[Shai]

Hello,
Is there a means to efficiently move back to the ear piece using
VoiceOver when one is using the Google voice app for calls? Right now,
the app engages the speaker phone when one draws the phone away from
the ear as it should, but placing the receiver back to the ear still
leaves the speaker phone engaged. The only means to get back to the
ear piece is to locate the speaker button and double tap and then
double tap on iPhone receiver.
I am using the latest version of the app with the latest version of iOS.
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Re: How Do You Gift an Album using the iTunes App?

[Richard Turner]

I do not see a way to do that.
You may want to contact Apple directly on that one.
I would have thought you could do it with the app.




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On Jun 17, 2020, at 1:56 PM, dani pagador  wrote:

Hi, Everyone.
I want to buy an album and gift it to my nephew, but don't know how to
do this using the iTunes app on the iPhone. Would appreciate any
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Thanks,
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How Do You Gift an Album using the iTunes App?

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I want to buy an album and gift it to my nephew, but don't know how to
do this using the iTunes app on the iPhone. Would appreciate any
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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hello,
Hope you  are  doing well and staying healthy.  ,
I just got a keyboard that is pretty ergonomic for me. It comes with an iPad 
case that is made for the iPad 9.7 inch screen.
I got it on Amazon for about $50. The case of self rotates 360° so that you can 
use it as a tablet.

iPad Keyboard Case 9.7 for iPad... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZS6NGG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

They only have it in two colors, black and another one that I can’t recall.
It has a backlit keyboard which means that it can light up in the dark.
I have small hands so the keys are pretty big in nicely spaced out for me. so 
really, it is like a little petite laptop I can just take with me anywhere 
rather than lugging my MacBook Pro with other accessories on  a longer commute 
because it eventually takes a toll on my back after a while, especially when 
you stand waiting for the bus or subway for a long time. I worry less and feel 
safer  on the longer commute when taking my iPad  then I do when I take my 
laptop especially if I decide to eventually  go  to the city and come home in 
the evening for meetings and other activities in the future after this 
pandemic. Any questions about the keyboard, please feel free to reach out.
Thank you.
 

Priscilla



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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> 
> Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
> I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on 
> his Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
> iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
> I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.
>  
> iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are 
> a touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is 
> where the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
> Not impressed.
> normal
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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Re: Is there a way within iOS to set up my data plan billing cycle?

[Arnold Schmidt]

I am not 100 percent sure what you are asking, but if you want to be able to 
tell how much data you have used over cellular in a given period of time, go to 
the very bottom  of the cellular settings, and it says reset statistics. Or at 
least that is the way it is in IOS 12. I do this on the first day of my billing 
cycle to keep up with how much I use in a given month. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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hi,
Is there a way within iOS to set up my data plan billing cycle? I have looked 
all over the cellular settings, but cannot find it.
Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Carolyn]

They pay those bonuses too. When I had it, I referred two different people. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Choosing a phone company

I just noticed that Consumer Cellular is offering a $25 bonus to both a 
referring customer and to a new customer at the present time.

 

I would be glad to refer anyone and I am sure anyone else on the list would 
also help.  Ask any of us if interested.

 

Tony

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeff Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

 

I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see 
if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT 
and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they 
think about the service?
Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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Reading page titles in safari

[Donald Raikes]

Hello,

As I was browsing on my iPhone se 2020 today, it occurred to me that
VoiceOver is not reading the page titles as I switch pages.

Is this normal?  Is there a way to get VoiceOver to read the page title?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Dennis Long]

Visible is an awesome company.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

 

I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see 
if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT 
and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they 
think about the service?
Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on his 
Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.

iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are a 
touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is where 
the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
Not impressed.
normal
Thanks,


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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Tony]

I just noticed that Consumer Cellular is offering a $25 bonus to both a 
referring customer and to a new customer at the present time.

 

I would be glad to refer anyone and I am sure anyone else on the list would 
also help.  Ask any of us if interested.

 

Tony

 

 

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Jeff Samco
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I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see 
if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT 
and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they 
think about the service?
Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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Is there a way within iOS to set up my data plan billing cycle?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
Is there a way within iOS to set up my data plan billing cycle? I have looked 
all over the cellular settings, but cannot find it.
Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Answering a call while on call and not losing first call.

[Carolyn]

I'll keep these two up and keep reading them to get it down solid, thanks. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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And if you have managed to answer a second call and you want to them return to 
the first call you may first have to hide the on-screen keypad.
Often after you finish the second call and that person hangs up that also hangs 
up the call on your device and all you have to do is find the Hold button which 
if you double tap it would reconnect you with the first person.
It might be called something slightly differently, I could check at work where 
I have two lines and I can call myself, but I'm not yet there.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Can anyone tell me the trick to, first managing to answer a call, when on one, 
and also not lose the first one in order to answer the second one?  

Thanks. 

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RE: Choosing a phone company

[Carolyn]

That sounds pretty good, about $34 a month for each. 

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juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:34 AM
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Hi Carolyn, the unlimited plan that I misspoke about was for three phones with 
35 GB shared for $103 which I think is excellent and this amount includes tax. 
The AT plan that I am on now I pay $150 which includes tax and also includes 
a 19% discount because I used to be a New York City public school teacher. So, 
I’ll try it out on my own first and then see if it’s actually worth it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

And, Juan, if you are a member of AARP, you get a 5% discount. Of course, you 
may have years to go to qualify for that. Good that you got a reasonable plan. 
They have some good ones. 

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Hey Kelly thank you very much for the information I really appreciate that I 
was looking at it but I did order a Sim from consumer cellular just to try it 
out. I could just take the AT some out and put in the other Sim and see how 
it works. They do a plan with unlimited text and talk and 35 GB of data they 
call there unlimited plan. For around $30. Which I think is very good. But I’ll 
find out how it works.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

Check out Best MVNO for the best prepaid deals. The link is at the end of this 
message. I currently use Xfinity for my Internet service at
$20 a month and pay $12 for a gig of data and free calls and text from Xfinity 
Mobile who uses Verizon.  I don't need my hand held from my cell hone company, 
just wireless service so I have no interest in paying extra for local stores 
and 24/7 phone customer service.

https://bestmvno.com/compare/cheapest-cell-phone-plans/


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> On 6/15/20, kitty hevener  wrote:
> Yeah, I did find that to be an issue when dealing consumer cellular.  
> Then again, I have found the folks at the Verizon stores not to be 
> very knowledgeable.  They may know their specific product that they 
> are selling, but no ability to troubleshoot.  I ended up getting the 
> most help from apple accessibility and the genius bar.
> 
> I hear that t mobile is offering some good plans now that they and 
> sprint are merging.  Best of luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Tony
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Choosing a phone company
> 
> Never used them but know people that have.  The biggest problem is 
> dealing with customer service if you ever need to.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Rebecca Degeorge
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> are use a company called straight talk. You can sign up at Walmart, if 
> there’s one near you. A basic plan is $35 a month, and the coverage is 
> excellent. Good luck. Also, their website is very accessible. Straight 
> talk.com, and their tech help is also very good.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 15, 2020, at 12:06 PM, juan mojena  wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to 
> see if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are 
> cheaper than AT and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this 
> company and what do they think about the service?
> Thank you very much in advance.
> Juan
> 
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RE: Answering a call while on call and not losing first call.

[Carolyn]

Hold and accept, thanks. Also thanks about the middle button. That should fix 
it. 

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You have to find the button called "Hold and Accept" which would be near the 
bottom of the screen when a second call is coming in.
If you use a wired headset you can simply press the middle button of the remote 
to switch to the new call.
If I don't use a headset I dfirst tell the caller I am talking to that I have 
another call coming in and could he please hold on for a moment. Then I take 
the phone away from my face and give it a second so it switches to speakerphone.
I then touch near th ebottom of the screen until I find any of the buttons like 
End and Accept which would end the current call and pick up the new call, from 
there I flick right until I get to Hold and Accept. It is useful if you are 
with 2 friends or relatives to practice this, if you have a landline you could 
first call yourself from the landline and pick up the call, then ask just 1 
other person to call you as well. Then you have as long as you have until yoru 
voice mail kicks in to check the screen, if you have a sighted person around 
you could even ask them to tell you where the buttons are, e.g. bottom left, 
bottom right etc.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Can anyone tell me the trick to, first managing to answer a call, when on one, 
and also not lose the first one in order to answer the second one?  

Thanks. 

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Re: Trying to use iPhone as MultiPurpose device but

[Richard Turner]

Then, perhaps asking Apple to add vibration patterns to notifications.
That would also help deaf and hard of hearing or deaf-blind individuals.




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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:


Yes sound files are picked alright. The thing is fibration patterns since I 
tend to mute the phone and turn VoiceOver speech off, when watching or 
listening to Media content on the phone. Thanks for the idea of contacting 
Whatsapp about this. Seems to me that Whatsapp on the competition is more open, 
since I heard from blind Android users who are able to set up different 
vibration patterns on Whatsapp, for contacts.


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De: Richard Turner
Enviado: miércoles, 17 de junio de 2020 11:20 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: Trying to use iPhone as MultiPurpose device but

First, it is a three finger double tap to mute VoiceOver speech.
I do not use WhatsApp, but in the notification settings for WhatsApp, you 
should be able to pick a unique sound file.
If not, then you need to contact the WhatsApp developer.
The text message settings in contacts are only for native Apple apps, so it 
makes perfect sense why it doesn't work for Whatsapp.
That is what the notification settings are for.
HTH,



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

It would be a dream come true, to be able to use our iPhones as a MultiPurpose 
device (reading books via Bard Mobile, Voice Dream Reader, listening to 
podcasts via the native podcast app, Spotify to music, watching video content 
on Netflix, Prime Video), but the thing that I’ve never been able to come to 
terms with, if why the vibrations patterns which natively when you get an 
IMessage, assigned to contacts, don’t work on other platforms like Whatsapp? If 
this were possible, I’d definitely embrace the use of only one device for 
everything! What I tried to do to get the most experience without interruptions 
is to deactivate Voiceover speech via 2-finger triple-tap, and mute the switch 
above the volume with only vibrations to guide me with. However since my family 
uses Whatsap, I’ve missed messages that by the time I realize I have them, they 
left the store. Or other errands they’re running, thus I missed out if I wanted 
this or that from the store.
Of course the quickest solution would be to buy myself an IPod or IPad to use 
as a media-consumption device, but money is tight, thus no go there. It costs 
sufficient money, so as to be able to kill 2 birds with one stone, to get all 
the use one can out of the iPhone! Some Bluetooth speakers have the capability 
to leave VoiceOver on the phone, thus another solution which I?ve tried, but 
most of the Bluetooth speakers don’t have earbuds jacks!
So what tips do you guys have if you’ve used phones for everything?


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RE: Trying to use iPhone as MultiPurpose device but

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes sound files are picked alright. The thing is fibration patterns since I tend to mute the phone and turn VoiceOver speech off, when watching or listening to Media content on the phone. Thanks for the idea of contacting Whatsapp about this. Seems to me that Whatsapp on the competition is more open, since I heard from blind Android users who are able to set up different vibration patterns on Whatsapp, for contacts.   Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Richard TurnerEnviado: miércoles, 17 de junio de 2020 11:20 a. m.Para: viphone@googlegroups.comAsunto: Re: Trying to use iPhone as MultiPurpose device but First, it is a three finger double tap to mute VoiceOver speech. I do not use WhatsApp, but in the notification settings for WhatsApp, you should be able to pick a unique sound file.If not, then you need to contact the WhatsApp developer.The text message settings in contacts are only for native Apple apps, so it makes perfect sense why it doesn't work for Whatsapp.That is what the notification settings are for.HTH,   Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward HerbertOn Jun 17, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote: It would be a dream come true, to be able to use our iPhones as a MultiPurpose device (reading books via Bard Mobile, Voice Dream Reader, listening to podcasts via the native podcast app, Spotify to music, watching video content on Netflix, Prime Video), but the thing that I’ve never been able to come to terms with, if why the vibrations patterns which natively when you get an IMessage, assigned to contacts, don’t work on other platforms like Whatsapp? If this were possible, I’d definitely embrace the use of only one device for everything! What I tried to do to get the most experience without interruptions is to deactivate Voiceover speech via 2-finger triple-tap, and mute the switch above the volume with only vibrations to guide me with. However since my family uses Whatsap, I’ve missed messages that by the time I realize I have them, they left the store. Or other errands they’re running, thus I missed out if I wanted this or that from the store.Of course the quickest solution would be to buy myself an IPod or IPad to use as a media-consumption device, but money is tight, thus no go there. It costs sufficient money, so as to be able to kill 2 birds with one stone, to get all the use one can out of the iPhone! Some Bluetooth speakers have the capability to leave VoiceOver on the phone, thus another solution which I?ve tried, but most of the Bluetooth speakers don’t have earbuds jacks!So what tips do you guys have if you’ve used phones for everything?   Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/EC456725-D577-4A33-8BB2-33574280563F%40hxcore.ol.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981786278C3A534947B680EB79A0%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. 



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Re: Trying to use iPhone as MultiPurpose device but

[Richard Turner]

First, it is a three finger double tap to mute VoiceOver speech.
I do not use WhatsApp, but in the notification settings for WhatsApp, you 
should be able to pick a unique sound file.
If not, then you need to contact the WhatsApp developer.
The text message settings in contacts are only for native Apple apps, so it 
makes perfect sense why it doesn't work for Whatsapp.
That is what the notification settings are for.
HTH,




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:


It would be a dream come true, to be able to use our iPhones as a MultiPurpose 
device (reading books via Bard Mobile, Voice Dream Reader, listening to 
podcasts via the native podcast app, Spotify to music, watching video content 
on Netflix, Prime Video), but the thing that I’ve never been able to come to 
terms with, if why the vibrations patterns which natively when you get an 
IMessage, assigned to contacts, don’t work on other platforms like Whatsapp? If 
this were possible, I’d definitely embrace the use of only one device for 
everything! What I tried to do to get the most experience without interruptions 
is to deactivate Voiceover speech via 2-finger triple-tap, and mute the switch 
above the volume with only vibrations to guide me with. However since my family 
uses Whatsap, I’ve missed messages that by the time I realize I have them, they 
left the store. Or other errands they’re running, thus I missed out if I wanted 
this or that from the store.
Of course the quickest solution would be to buy myself an IPod or IPad to use 
as a media-consumption device, but money is tight, thus no go there. It costs 
sufficient money, so as to be able to kill 2 birds with one stone, to get all 
the use one can out of the iPhone! Some Bluetooth speakers have the capability 
to leave VoiceOver on the phone, thus another solution which I?ve tried, but 
most of the Bluetooth speakers don’t have earbuds jacks!
So what tips do you guys have if you’ve used phones for everything?


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Correo
 para Windows 10


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RE: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out the name of the incoming call

[bentleyj1952]

Hi,

Yes.  It can be a juke box that fits in your pocket among so many other things.

And yes, this list has been awesome to me!

James B  -Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 4:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out the 
name of the incoming call

I really like my iPhone 8.  Although I use my iPhone mainly as a media
player.  However, it is so cool to be able to anser phone calls on the
same device that I can listen to my audio books or audio dramas.  What
I usually do, is stop my Voice Over speech when I'm listening to
something so that if I do receive a phone call, I can answer it
quickly with the 2 finger double tap.  I bought my iPhone because so
many blind people have them and they are all basically the same
device.  This list has been and still is very helpful to me as I'm
still learning my iPhone 8.  I still haven't updated to IOS 13.51, BUT
I'll probably update to 14 when it comes out.

On 6/17/20, Swati Sinha  wrote:
> Hi,
> Hope this helps.
> Inside iPhone settings> phone>
> You will get an option call announce under call heading in that
> optionselect  "never" and you are done.
>
>
> On
> 6/16/20, Marie  wrote:
>> this turn off speech , not voiceover!
>>
>>
>>
>> Marie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out
>> the
>>
>> name of the incoming call
>>
>> Turn off Voice Over - three-finger triple tap.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 1:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out the
>> name
>>
>> of the incoming call
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, I’m still very new to this new iPhone SE2.  There must be a setting
>> somewhere to stop the announcement of incomeing calls by VO when the mute
>> switch is on.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
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Re: Can You Block Unwanted Email?

[Shirley Baker]

I blocked it but I'm not sure that means anything since I noticed I had blocked 
another email address and still get junk from them as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes,
> Open the email, double tap on the from address.
> Then, for some reason you have to double tap on it again.
> Then, flick right until you get to block contact and double tap.
> Then, double tap on block contact to confirm.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can You Block Unwanted Email?
> 
> Can you block unwanted email? I believe a friend of mine got scammed or 
> something else but anyway, I removed her email address from my address book 
> and I still get email saying it's from her and it has a link they want you to 
> go to but of course, I don't. I have it going to junk email but I noticed I'm 
> getting at least one everyday.
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Trying to use iPhone as MultiPurpose device but

[Gerardo Corripio]

It would be a dream come true, to be able to use our iPhones as a MultiPurpose device (reading books via Bard Mobile, Voice Dream Reader, listening to podcasts via the native podcast app, Spotify to music, watching video content on Netflix, Prime Video), but the thing that I’ve never been able to come to terms with, if why the vibrations patterns which natively when you get an IMessage, assigned to contacts, don’t work on other platforms like Whatsapp? If this were possible, I’d definitely embrace the use of only one device for everything! What I tried to do to get the most experience without interruptions is to deactivate Voiceover speech via 2-finger triple-tap, and mute the switch above the volume with only vibrations to guide me with. However since my family uses Whatsap, I’ve missed messages that by the time I realize I have them, they left the store. Or other errands they’re running, thus I missed out if I wanted this or that from the store.Of course the quickest solution would be to buy myself an IPod or IPad to use as a media-consumption device, but money is tight, thus no go there. It costs sufficient money, so as to be able to kill 2 birds with one stone, to get all the use one can out of the iPhone! Some Bluetooth speakers have the capability to leave VoiceOver on the phone, thus another solution which I?ve tried, but most of the Bluetooth speakers don’t have earbuds jacks!So what tips do you guys have if you’ve used phones for everything?   Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 



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Re: Choosing a phone company

[Jeff Samco]

I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have 
been very pleased with service through 
Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned 
company by Verizon and use the Verizon cell 
network and sell under-used band width. There are 
two cons to consider and many pros.


The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour 
chat on their website or through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area 
then your data will be slowed in preference to 
direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, 
especially during these stay at home months, when 
in a rural area I frequent. But, service in town is very good.


The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited 
texts and unlimited data, along with hot spot 
service with no caps, all for one monthly price 
of $40 or as low as $25. I particularly needed 
hot spot capability so this feature was a big 
draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join 
a Party Pay group. A Party Pay group can have 2 
members for a $5 discount per person each month; 
3 members for $10 discount monthly and 4 members 
for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a 
Party Pay group. No one shares a bill or any 
other connection except for getting the group 
discount. I easily found an open Party Pay group 
on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they 
send a virtual MasterCard worth $100.


If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I 
think It is a good service option.

HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:
I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company 
than AT I’m trying to see if the company 
consumer cellular is any good. The rates are 
cheaper than AT and they use AT towers. Has 
anyone ever used this company and what do they think about the service?

Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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Re: battery drain while listening to nls books

[Wayne Merritt]

I haven't noticed any significant battery drain when listening to BARD
books. I usually play the book in the app with the phone unlocked.
I've got Bluetooth on and use other apps that use more battery power
than the BARD Mobile app. I would agree with Richard if you notice a
huge drain in battery. Another idea is to see how many apps you are
running in the App Switcher, and if any of those use GPS and/or the
camera. If so, close them, and you should see your battery use go back
to normal.

Wayne

On 6/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I have no problem with battery drain because I press the side switch or
> power button and let it play in the background, which is the suggested
> approach for any audio if you don’t want the battery to drain.
> You can get 6 or 8 times the battery life if you are listening while the
> phone is locked.
> If BARD stops playing when you lock the screen, check the BARD app settings
> under audio settings and make sure play in background is on.
> If it is and it still stops, toggle it off and on and reboot the phone and
> all should be well.
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul
> JOrdan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: battery drain while listening to nls books
>
>Hi all. Many people on this list have talked about listening
> !NLS or bookshare  books. I’m wondering if you experience high battery drain
> and if so, how do you deal with it. I’m guessing that carrying a backup
> battery is the best solution, but I wonder if there are battery saving tips
> that I’m missing. Thanks much for everyone on this list who give such
> helpful and supportive information.
>
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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RE: Can You Block Unwanted Email?

[Richard Turner]

Yes,
Open the email, double tap on the from address.
Then, for some reason you have to double tap on it again.
Then, flick right until you get to block contact and double tap.
Then, double tap on block contact to confirm.



Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Baker
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Subject: Can You Block Unwanted Email?

Can you block unwanted email? I believe a friend of mine got scammed or 
something else but anyway, I removed her email address from my address book and 
I still get email saying it's from her and it has a link they want you to go to 
but of course, I don't. I have it going to junk email but I noticed I'm getting 
at least one everyday.

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RE: battery drain while listening to nls books

[Richard Turner]

I have no problem with battery drain because I press the side switch or power 
button and let it play in the background, which is the suggested approach for 
any audio if you don’t want the battery to drain.
You can get 6 or 8 times the battery life if you are listening while the phone 
is locked.
If BARD stops playing when you lock the screen, check the BARD app settings 
under audio settings and make sure play in background is on.
If it is and it still stops, toggle it off and on and reboot the phone and all 
should be well.


Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: battery drain while listening to nls books

   Hi all. Many people on this list have talked about listening 
!NLS or bookshare  books. I’m wondering if you experience high battery drain 
and if so, how do you deal with it. I’m guessing that carrying a backup battery 
is the best solution, but I wonder if there are battery saving tips that I’m 
missing. Thanks much for everyone on this list who give such helpful and 
supportive information.

God bless!
Paula and the pups
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battery drain while listening to nls books

[Paul JOrdan]

   Hi all. Many people on this list have talked about listening
!NLS or bookshare  books. I'm wondering if you experience high battery drain
and if so, how do you deal with it. I'm guessing that carrying a backup
battery is the best solution, but I wonder if there are battery saving tips
that I'm missing. Thanks much for everyone on this list who give such
helpful and supportive information.

 

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Can You Block Unwanted Email?

[Shirley Baker]

Can you block unwanted email? I believe a friend of mine got scammed or 
something else but anyway, I removed her email address from my address book and 
I still get email saying it's from her and it has a link they want you to go to 
but of course, I don't. I have it going to junk email but I noticed I'm getting 
at least one everyday.

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RE: Answering a call while on call and not losing first call.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And if you have managed to answer a second call and you want to them return to 
the first call you may first have to hide the on-screen keypad.
Often after you finish the second call and that person hangs up that also hangs 
up the call on your device and all you have to do is find the Hold button which 
if you double tap it would reconnect you with the first person.
It might be called something slightly differently, I could check at work where 
I have two lines and I can call myself, but I'm not yet there.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Answering a call while on call and not losing first call.

Can anyone tell me the trick to, first managing to answer a call, when on one, 
and also not lose the first one in order to answer the second one?  

Thanks. 

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Re: Choosing a phone company

[juan mojena]

Hi Carolyn, the unlimited plan that I misspoke about was for three phones with 
35 GB shared for $103 which I think is excellent and this amount includes tax. 
The AT plan that I am on now I pay $150 which includes tax and also includes 
a 19% discount because I used to be a New York City public school teacher. So, 
I’ll try it out on my own first and then see if it’s actually worth it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

And, Juan, if you are a member of AARP, you get a 5% discount. Of course, you 
may have years to go to qualify for that. Good that you got a reasonable plan. 
They have some good ones. 

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juan mojena
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hey Kelly thank you very much for the information I really appreciate that I 
was looking at it but I did order a Sim from consumer cellular just to try it 
out. I could just take the AT some out and put in the other Sim and see how 
it works. They do a plan with unlimited text and talk and 35 GB of data they 
call there unlimited plan. For around $30. Which I think is very good. But I’ll 
find out how it works.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

Check out Best MVNO for the best prepaid deals. The link is at the end of this 
message. I currently use Xfinity for my Internet service at
$20 a month and pay $12 for a gig of data and free calls and text from Xfinity 
Mobile who uses Verizon.  I don't need my hand held from my cell hone company, 
just wireless service so I have no interest in paying extra for local stores 
and 24/7 phone customer service.

https://bestmvno.com/compare/cheapest-cell-phone-plans/


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> On 6/15/20, kitty hevener  wrote:
> Yeah, I did find that to be an issue when dealing consumer cellular.  
> Then again, I have found the folks at the Verizon stores not to be 
> very knowledgeable.  They may know their specific product that they 
> are selling, but no ability to troubleshoot.  I ended up getting the 
> most help from apple accessibility and the genius bar.
> 
> I hear that t mobile is offering some good plans now that they and 
> sprint are merging.  Best of luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Tony
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Choosing a phone company
> 
> Never used them but know people that have.  The biggest problem is 
> dealing with customer service if you ever need to.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Rebecca Degeorge
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company
> 
> are use a company called straight talk. You can sign up at Walmart, if 
> there’s one near you. A basic plan is $35 a month, and the coverage is 
> excellent. Good luck. Also, their website is very accessible. Straight 
> talk.com, and their tech help is also very good.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 15, 2020, at 12:06 PM, juan mojena  wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to 
> see if the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are 
> cheaper than AT and they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this 
> company and what do they think about the service?
> Thank you very much in advance.
> Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Answering a call while on call and not losing first call.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to find the button called "Hold and Accept" which would be near the 
bottom of the screen when a second call is coming in.
If you use a wired headset you can simply press the middle button of the remote 
to switch to the new call.
If I don't use a headset I dfirst tell the caller I am talking to that I have 
another call coming in and could he please hold on for a moment. Then I take 
the phone away from my face and give it a second so it switches to speakerphone.
I then touch near th ebottom of the screen until I find any of the buttons like 
End and Accept which would end the current call and pick up the new call, from 
there I flick right until I get to Hold and Accept. It is useful if you are 
with 2 friends or relatives to practice this, if you have a landline you could 
first call yourself from the landline and pick up the call, then ask just 1 
other person to call you as well. Then you have as long as you have until yoru 
voice mail kicks in to check the screen, if you have a sighted person around 
you could even ask them to tell you where the buttons are, e.g. bottom left, 
bottom right etc.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Can anyone tell me the trick to, first managing to answer a call, when on one, 
and also not lose the first one in order to answer the second one?  

Thanks. 

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Re: How accessible is an Apple watch

[Shirley Baker]

If you read Braille, there is a book titled "You and Your Apple Watch" from 
National Braille Press and there is a tutorial you can purchase from Mystic 
Access about the apple watch. I have both. Like them both but the Mystic Access 
goes into a lot more detail about it and they are up to date. I put their 
tutorial on a flash drive and can play it on the digital talking book machine.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I think I got my apple series 3 watch about two years ago. I don't know how 
> I have been able to get along without it for so long. I sometimes read my 
> email on it, read messages, use the timer. I only have two faces on it but 
> that works for me. Sometimes I answer a phone call with it but I have a hard 
> time knowing who is calling so don't use that part very often. I'm always 
> forgetting the date so that's very handy for me. Also, I have many alarms set 
> on it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2020, at 6:33 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> as one can get a range of straps for the apple watch, there is a good 
>> chance that you should find one to accommodate you. I mainly use mine as a 
>> swimming tracker and alarm, as I mainly swim in open water, so it is handy 
>> to have an accessible vibrating alarm that will for example, give me an idea 
>> that I have had a certain amount of time in swimming and should think about 
>> heading back to shore.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Garces (prisci)" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: How accessible is an Apple watch
>> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Hope all of you are doing well. I too have the same questions as I do not 
>> own an apple watch. However, I am looking into purchasing it in the future. 
>> I was going to purchase one, but unfortunately, the pandemic hit so I am 
>> unable to try one  on for myself. Also, I have an added challenge because I 
>> have small wrists since I am very petite. Does the Apple Watch fit small 
>> wrists?
>> Also, did you buy the EarPods when you got the Apple Watch in order to hear 
>> the VoiceOver on the Apple Watch while in crowded settings?
>> How are you able to hear VoiceOver through the Apple Watch if you don’t own 
>> EarPods in noisy environments?
>> Can the Apple Watch serve as a suplemental mobility aid for navigation in 
>> addition to other tools like a cane or service dog?
>> What were the primary reasons for purchasing the Apple Watch?
>> For those of you who are totally blind, what are the most important uses for 
>> your Apple Watch?
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> Stay safe  and take care,
>> 
>> Priscilla
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Terri Stimmel  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am curious to learn more about the Apple watch.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How accessible are they?
>>> 
>>> Are they easy to use? Or more difficult?
>>> 
>>> For those of you who have them, what sorts of things do you do with them?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you track your heartbeat with them?
>>> 
>>> What about your sleep?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts are much appreciated. Also, if anyone knows of any tutorials, 
>>> or things I could read, please pass them along.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
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RE: ipad adjustments

[Richard Turner]

I recommend the Logitech K380 or K480 as the keys are about the same size as on 
a standard computer keyboard.
Often local stores like Target, Best Buy, carry them, or of course Amazon.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ipad adjustments

There are keyboard commands for navigating an iOS device. I’d recommend setting 
the Voiceover modifier to Capslock, and maybe teaching him Quick navigation 
with the arrow keys first, for less finger use. You can set things in Settings 
> accessibility > keyboard to help too. Note that you don’t /have/ to have a 
Magic keyboard.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6/ios


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On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Joe Paton 
mailto:patonpl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello.
first a little background.

I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
by an explosion.
apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
dificult.

so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.

We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
turned up much that is solving these problems.
There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
availability and if they would help, would be useful.
Many thanks.

Joe

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RE: ipad adjustments

[Richard Turner]

If he is using VoiceOver, none of the physical switches work when VoiceOver is 
on.
There are Bluetooth keyboard commands to do everything.
I have both a document with keyboard commands and a list of what I think are 
all of the voice control commands on my web site: www.turner42.com

This is a great place to be asking your questions.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:58 AM
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Subject: Re: ipad adjustments

What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you first 
enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the extra software 
but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as required - and there 
is a voice control command to turn off voice control. Voice control commands 
can be used to replace all physical tapping and swiping and works well with or 
without VoiceOver. It is important either to use a headset or EarPods or else 
be careful to say “Command Mode”, otherwise text edit fields get filled up with 
every word you or VoiceOver say!
Harry

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury 
> caused by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences 
> mainly, are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is 
> very dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less 
> sensitive, or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location 
> and activation of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an 
> app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch 
> with hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration We can 
> use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of an 
> issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home 
> screens that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is 
> possible, so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations 
> where the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't 
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, 
> there availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: ipad adjustments

[Devin Prater]

There are keyboard commands for navigating an iOS device. I’d recommend setting 
the Voiceover modifier to Capslock, and maybe teaching him Quick navigation 
with the arrow keys first, for less finger use. You can set things in Settings 
> accessibility > keyboard to help too. Note that you don’t /have/ to have a 
Magic keyboard.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6/ios
 



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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
> that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all. 
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Answering a call while on call and not losing first call.

[Carolyn]

Can anyone tell me the trick to, first managing to answer a
call, when on one, and also not lose the first one in order
to answer the second one?  

Thanks. 

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RE: [External] Re: How accessible is an Apple watch

[Cook, Steve]

I just looked at the material from the link in the below message, it is old.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] Re: How accessible is an Apple watch

There is a lot of information at:

https://www.applevis.com/new-to-apple-watch
Malcolm Parfitt


On 17 Jun 2020, at 13:40, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone,


Thank you to those who have responded to my questions about the Apple watch. I 
really appreciate it. For some reason, I wasn't expecting much of a response. 
Or I thought you all would say it wasn't all that accessible. I am glad I was 
wrong on this.


My main reasons for wanting to possibly get one, is so that I can track my 
activities, and my sleep. I am wanting to start exercising a bit more than I 
do. I think it would be very beneficial to me to possibly have a watch.

Also, I don't always sleep well. So being able to track this better, and 
easier, would really come in handy.


I almost always have my phone with me though. So I don't know if I can justify 
making a purchase like this.


As for the sleep tracking, does the watch somehow do this on it's own? Somehow 
keep up with your sleep?

Or do you just have an App on your watch and phone, and you have to enter in 
all the information yourself.


Also, what are some of the ways the watch tracks your activity?

If I were riding an exercise bike, would it be able to possibly help me to know 
how fast I was going, and how many calories I burned? Or would I need an App to 
help me to do this?


Also, how do you all respond to notifications, and text messages?

How can it be easier to respond to texts messages from the watch? Or how can it 
be easier to read notifications?


I would assume that the watch has to be charged every so often?

If so, how does this work?

Also, someone mentioned only having 2 faces.

What does this mean?

Why would you possibly want different faces?


Sorry for all of the questions. I know there are a lot here. I hope you all 
won't mind. I am fascinated though, and would really love to know more.


Thank you,


Terri

On 6/16/2020 7:09 PM, Shirley Baker wrote:

I think I got my apple series 3 watch about two years ago. I don't know how I 
have been able to get along without it for so long. I sometimes read my email 
on it, read messages, use the timer. I only have two faces on it but that works 
for me. Sometimes I answer a phone call with it but I have a hard time knowing 
who is calling so don't use that part very often. I'm always forgetting the 
date so that's very handy for me. Also, I have many alarms set on it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2020, at 6:33 PM, goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>>
 wrote:

as one can get a range of straps for the apple watch, there is a good chance 
that you should find one to accommodate you. I mainly use mine as a swimming 
tracker and alarm, as I mainly swim in open water, so it is handy to have an 
accessible vibrating alarm that will for example, give me an idea that I have 
had a certain amount of time in swimming and should think about heading back to 
shore.

Simon


- Original Message - From: "Priscilla Garces (prisci)" 
mailto:garcesp...@gmail.com>>
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: How accessible is an Apple watch


Hi everyone,
Hope all of you are doing well. I too have the same questions as I do not own 
an apple watch. However, I am looking into purchasing it in the future. I was 
going to purchase one, but unfortunately, the pandemic hit so I am unable to 
try one  on for myself. Also, I have an added challenge because I have small 
wrists since I am very petite. Does the Apple Watch fit small wrists?
Also, did you buy the EarPods when you got the Apple Watch in order to hear the 
VoiceOver on the Apple Watch while in 

RE: Trying to replace my smart speaker with my iPhone

[Carolyn]

I just two-finger double tap, I think, to turn off alarm, haven't had to do it 
for a while. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trying to replace my smart speaker with my iPhone

Hmm, I tried that this morning, and it didn’t work. I wonder if it’s because I 
also had a podcast streaming at the same time, so Siri thought the stop request 
applied to the media and not the alarm. Thanks for letting me know it works 
though. I’ll keep experimenting until I figure something out!

 

--

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying to replace my smart speaker with my iPhone

 

Hi there,

 

I tried turning a timer set for a minute. When the alarm went off, I said: Hey 
Siri stop. And it ddid just that. I hope this helps!

 

Jenj

Jenn and Kumi





On Jun 16, 2020, at 5:48 PM, chalt...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



This morning I was playing around with my iPhone, Airpods and Siri, and 
I thought I could use this setup instead of my Alexa. When steeping my tea, I 
used Siri to set my timer to five minutes. When the timer went off though, I 
couldn’t figure out how to stop the timer alarm with Siri. I had to find my 
iPhone and hit the power button to turn off the alarm. Is there a trick to 
using Siri to turn off a ringing alarm hands free?

 

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Re: How accessible is an Apple watch

[Malcolm Parfitt]

There is a lot of information at:

https://www.applevis.com/new-to-apple-watch

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 13:40, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> Thank you to those who have responded to my questions about the Apple watch. 
> I really appreciate it. For some reason, I wasn't expecting much of a 
> response. Or I thought you all would say it wasn't all that accessible. I am 
> glad I was wrong on this.
> 
> 
> My main reasons for wanting to possibly get one, is so that I can track my 
> activities, and my sleep. I am wanting to start exercising a bit more than I 
> do. I think it would be very beneficial to me to possibly have a watch.
> 
> Also, I don't always sleep well. So being able to track this better, and 
> easier, would really come in handy.
> 
> 
> I almost always have my phone with me though. So I don't know if I can 
> justify making a purchase like this.
> 
> 
> As for the sleep tracking, does the watch somehow do this on it's own? 
> Somehow keep up with your sleep?
> 
> Or do you just have an App on your watch and phone, and you have to enter in 
> all the information yourself.
> 
> 
> Also, what are some of the ways the watch tracks your activity?
> 
> If I were riding an exercise bike, would it be able to possibly help me to 
> know how fast I was going, and how many calories I burned? Or would I need an 
> App to help me to do this?
> 
> 
> Also, how do you all respond to notifications, and text messages?
> 
> How can it be easier to respond to texts messages from the watch? Or how can 
> it be easier to read notifications?
> 
> 
> I would assume that the watch has to be charged every so often?
> 
> If so, how does this work?
> 
> Also, someone mentioned only having 2 faces.
> 
> What does this mean?
> 
> Why would you possibly want different faces?
> 
> 
> Sorry for all of the questions. I know there are a lot here. I hope you all 
> won't mind. I am fascinated though, and would really love to know more.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
>> On 6/16/2020 7:09 PM, Shirley Baker wrote:
>> I think I got my apple series 3 watch about two years ago. I don't know how 
>> I have been able to get along without it for so long. I sometimes read my 
>> email on it, read messages, use the timer. I only have two faces on it but 
>> that works for me. Sometimes I answer a phone call with it but I have a hard 
>> time knowing who is calling so don't use that part very often. I'm always 
>> forgetting the date so that's very handy for me. Also, I have many alarms 
>> set on it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 16, 2020, at 6:33 PM, goshawk on horseback 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> as one can get a range of straps for the apple watch, there is a good 
>>> chance that you should find one to accommodate you. I mainly use mine as a 
>>> swimming tracker and alarm, as I mainly swim in open water, so it is handy 
>>> to have an accessible vibrating alarm that will for example, give me an 
>>> idea that I have had a certain amount of time in swimming and should think 
>>> about heading back to shore.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Garces (prisci)" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: How accessible is an Apple watch
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Hope all of you are doing well. I too have the same questions as I do not 
>>> own an apple watch. However, I am looking into purchasing it in the future. 
>>> I was going to purchase one, but unfortunately, the pandemic hit so I am 
>>> unable to try one  on for myself. Also, I have an added challenge because I 
>>> have small wrists since I am very petite. Does the Apple Watch fit small 
>>> wrists?
>>> Also, did you buy the EarPods when you got the Apple Watch in order to hear 
>>> the VoiceOver on the Apple Watch while in crowded settings?
>>> How are you able to hear VoiceOver through the Apple Watch if you don’t own 
>>> EarPods in noisy environments?
>>> Can the Apple Watch serve as a suplemental mobility aid for navigation in 
>>> addition to other tools like a cane or service dog?
>>> What were the primary reasons for purchasing the Apple Watch?
>>> For those of you who are totally blind, what are the most important uses 
>>> for your Apple Watch?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Stay safe  and take care,
>>> 
>>> Priscilla
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Terri Stimmel  
 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 
 I am curious to learn more about the Apple watch.
 
 
 How accessible are they?
 
 Are they easy to use? Or more difficult?
 
 For those of you who have them, what sorts of things do you do with them?
 
 
 Can you track your heartbeat with them?
 
 What about your sleep?
 
 
 Any thoughts are much appreciated. Also, if anyone knows of any tutorials, 
 or things I could read, please pass them along.
 
 
 Thank you,
 

Re: How accessible is an Apple watch

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


Thank you to those who have responded to my questions about the Apple 
watch. I really appreciate it. For some reason, I wasn't expecting much 
of a response. Or I thought you all would say it wasn't all that 
accessible. I am glad I was wrong on this.



My main reasons for wanting to possibly get one, is so that I can track 
my activities, and my sleep. I am wanting to start exercising a bit more 
than I do. I think it would be very beneficial to me to possibly have a 
watch.


Also, I don't always sleep well. So being able to track this better, and 
easier, would really come in handy.



I almost always have my phone with me though. So I don't know if I can 
justify making a purchase like this.



As for the sleep tracking, does the watch somehow do this on it's own? 
Somehow keep up with your sleep?


Or do you just have an App on your watch and phone, and you have to 
enter in all the information yourself.



Also, what are some of the ways the watch tracks your activity?

If I were riding an exercise bike, would it be able to possibly help me 
to know how fast I was going, and how many calories I burned? Or would I 
need an App to help me to do this?



Also, how do you all respond to notifications, and text messages?

How can it be easier to respond to texts messages from the watch? Or how 
can it be easier to read notifications?



I would assume that the watch has to be charged every so often?

If so, how does this work?

Also, someone mentioned only having 2 faces.

What does this mean?

Why would you possibly want different faces?


Sorry for all of the questions. I know there are a lot here. I hope you 
all won't mind. I am fascinated though, and would really love to know more.



Thank you,


Terri

On 6/16/2020 7:09 PM, Shirley Baker wrote:

I think I got my apple series 3 watch about two years ago. I don't know how I 
have been able to get along without it for so long. I sometimes read my email 
on it, read messages, use the timer. I only have two faces on it but that works 
for me. Sometimes I answer a phone call with it but I have a hard time knowing 
who is calling so don't use that part very often. I'm always forgetting the 
date so that's very handy for me. Also, I have many alarms set on it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 16, 2020, at 6:33 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

as one can get a range of straps for the apple watch, there is a good chance 
that you should find one to accommodate you. I mainly use mine as a swimming 
tracker and alarm, as I mainly swim in open water, so it is handy to have an 
accessible vibrating alarm that will for example, give me an idea that I have 
had a certain amount of time in swimming and should think about heading back to 
shore.

Simon


- Original Message - From: "Priscilla Garces (prisci)" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: How accessible is an Apple watch


Hi everyone,
Hope all of you are doing well. I too have the same questions as I do not own 
an apple watch. However, I am looking into purchasing it in the future. I was 
going to purchase one, but unfortunately, the pandemic hit so I am unable to 
try one  on for myself. Also, I have an added challenge because I have small 
wrists since I am very petite. Does the Apple Watch fit small wrists?
Also, did you buy the EarPods when you got the Apple Watch in order to hear the 
VoiceOver on the Apple Watch while in crowded settings?
How are you able to hear VoiceOver through the Apple Watch if you don’t own 
EarPods in noisy environments?
Can the Apple Watch serve as a suplemental mobility aid for navigation in 
addition to other tools like a cane or service dog?
What were the primary reasons for purchasing the Apple Watch?
For those of you who are totally blind, what are the most important uses for 
your Apple Watch?


Hope this helps.
Stay safe  and take care,

Priscilla





On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,


I am curious to learn more about the Apple watch.


How accessible are they?

Are they easy to use? Or more difficult?

For those of you who have them, what sorts of things do you do with them?


Can you track your heartbeat with them?

What about your sleep?


Any thoughts are much appreciated. Also, if anyone knows of any tutorials, or 
things I could read, please pass them along.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: ipad adjustments

[Michael Feir]

My first thought would be to look in the Touch setings. You'll find that
button in the accessibility settings and it leads to a large group of
options which sound to me like what you want. You can change how gestures
work and do other things related to touch screen difficulties. I don't know
where you get the special control switches but imagine they'd be on Amazon
among other places. The Apple store would certainly have at least one or
two types in their accessories but they tend to sell things more
expensively than elsewhere. Hope that helps a bit.

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> What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you
> first enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the
> extra software but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as
> required - and there is a voice control command to turn off voice control.
> Voice control commands can be used to replace all physical tapping and
> swiping and works well with or without VoiceOver. It is important either to
> use a headset or EarPods or else be careful to say “Command Mode”,
> otherwise text edit fields get filled up with every word you or VoiceOver
> say!
> Harry
>
> > On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> > first a little background.
> >
> > I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> > by an explosion.
> > apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> > are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> > dificult.
> >
> > so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> > or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> > of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> > Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> > hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> > We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> > an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home
> screens
> > that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> > so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.
> >
> > We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> > the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> > I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> > turned up much that is solving these problems.
> > There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> > availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> > Many thanks.
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Hi I am wondering if there are any accessible games for the Apple TV fourth 
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Apple TV box.
Also other than prime Netflix YouTube etc. what other apps do you enjoy using 
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Re: Asking for a treadmill recommendation which can be paired with iPhone

[Cristobal Munoz]

I have the Nautilus T618 model.

Nautilus Treadmill Series 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077J3F1DK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nFF6EbK6A3YNB
It looks to be out of stock in Amazon at the moment.
It has a fully accessible iOS app Where you can review your statistics after 
every workout. I’m not aware of any treadmill with an associated app where you 
can review your stats in real time though.


I like this treadmill for a lot of reasons including the app accessibility. 
Also, the buttons are nice and big and tactile. There are  controls on the 
handrails that control speed and incline which is very convenient instead of 
always having to reach for the front consul.
I’m 6 foot two 235 pounds and it’s a good size for someone my size. Wide and 
long enough deck for taller people with a longer stride. Also has a capacity of 
350 pounds. In my case, I like throwing on a weighted backpack for an extra 
workout. All in all, a very good machine.

> On Jun 16, 2020, at 7:16 PM, akhilesh  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> I am looking for a treadmill, which can be paired with iPhone to monitor my 
> exercising activities such as Treadmill speed, number of kilometres I have 
> completed and other information.
> Please suggest some quality treadmills.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out the name of the incoming call

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I really like my iPhone 8.  Although I use my iPhone mainly as a media
player.  However, it is so cool to be able to anser phone calls on the
same device that I can listen to my audio books or audio dramas.  What
I usually do, is stop my Voice Over speech when I'm listening to
something so that if I do receive a phone call, I can answer it
quickly with the 2 finger double tap.  I bought my iPhone because so
many blind people have them and they are all basically the same
device.  This list has been and still is very helpful to me as I'm
still learning my iPhone 8.  I still haven't updated to IOS 13.51, BUT
I'll probably update to 14 when it comes out.

On 6/17/20, Swati Sinha  wrote:
> Hi,
> Hope this helps.
> Inside iPhone settings> phone>
> You will get an option call announce under call heading in that
> optionselect  "never" and you are done.
>
>
> On
> 6/16/20, Marie  wrote:
>> this turn off speech , not voiceover!
>>
>>
>>
>> Marie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out
>> the
>>
>> name of the incoming call
>>
>> Turn off Voice Over - three-finger triple tap.
>>
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>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, I’m still very new to this new iPhone SE2.  There must be a setting
>> somewhere to stop the announcement of incomeing calls by VO when the mute
>> switch is on.
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Re: ipad adjustments

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What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you first 
enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the extra software 
but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as required - and there 
is a voice control command to turn off voice control. Voice control commands 
can be used to replace all physical tapping and swiping and works well with or 
without VoiceOver. It is important either to use a headset or EarPods or else 
be careful to say “Command Mode”, otherwise text edit fields get filled up with 
every word you or VoiceOver say!
Harry

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
> that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all. 
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
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ipad adjustments

[Joe Paton]

Hello.
first a little background.

I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
by an explosion.
apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
dificult.

so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all. 

We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
turned up much that is solving these problems.
There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
availability and if they would help, would be useful.
Many thanks.

Joe

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Re: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out the name of the incoming call

[Swati Sinha]

Hi,
Hope this helps.
Inside iPhone settings> phone>
You will get an option call announce under call heading in that
optionselect  "never" and you are done.


On
6/16/20, Marie  wrote:
> this turn off speech , not voiceover!
>
>
>
> Marie
> -Original Message-
> From: Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out the
>
> name of the incoming call
>
> Turn off Voice Over - three-finger triple tap.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 1:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: LOL, what good is the mute switch if Voice Over shouts out the name
>
> of the incoming call
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> OK, I’m still very new to this new iPhone SE2.  There must be a setting
> somewhere to stop the announcement of incomeing calls by VO when the mute
> switch is on.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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