Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,
I have a Series 7 Apple Watch (41 mm). I am still running Watch OS 9, as I 
gathered that there were some bugs with version 10.
I use Taptic Time frequently, and pretty consistently. I also have Sleep Focus 
enabled, but in my case this does not alter the number of taps required: 
regardless of the time, I always do a one-finger double tap for hours and 
minutes, and a one-finger triple tap for just minutes.
If I want the watch to remain silent, I turn speech off using a three-finger 
double tap, the same gesture as on the phone. Haptic Time works fine when 
speech is turned off. My watch is not an SE, by the way, it's the standard 
model. I hope this is helpful.
Best,
Nicky

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> On 24 Dec 2023, at 13:24, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> This is wonderful feedback, my friend.  Thank you for posting.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch
> 
> A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
> again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas 
> others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.
> 
> On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good 
> consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. 
> First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the 
> email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture 
> exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any 
> exceptions:
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
> perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
> and managed to get the same results.
> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
> appropriate teams for further investigation.
> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
> article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585
> 
> The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
> tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
> start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced 
> this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all 
> is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 
> PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple 
> tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a 
> quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the 
> minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get 
> just minutes after a triple tap.
> 
> I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
> the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
> definitely be something they take a closer look at.
> 
> I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
> tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
> always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
> assume this could also have something to do with it.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,
The taptic time is working pretty reliably for me on my Apple Watch Series 7, 
thank goodness. I find that it helps to do the double tap gesture slightly more 
slowly than normal, i.e. leaving a slightly longer gap between the first and 
second tap, but not long enough for it to be interpreted as a single tap and 
set VoiceOver off. When I sleep with my partner at night, I turn speech off 
using the three-finger double tap, and the taptic time almost always works for 
me. I do the same at work.
HTH,
Nicky

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> On 31 Aug 2023, at 17:53, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, just realized you said in the subject line it's an Apple Watch so 
> obviously plugging in a headset isn't an option.
> Once again, setting the volume low enough is what I do, but my wife also 
> sleeps through almost anything so not too hard to do.
> I wish the haptic time feedback was reliable, but especially lately on my 
> Apple Watch 5 I rarely even get it to work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
> Raikes
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch
> 
> If I use the sleep focus, what is the best way to check the time if I wake up 
> in the middle of the night?  I don't want voiceOver waking my wife.
> 
>> On 8/31/23, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi. I use my watch when I sleep every night. I created a sleep focus 
>> mode that comes automatically each evening at 9:15. I get a 15 minute 
>> wind-down before it goes in to sleep mode. The watch doesn't talk 
>> through the night and I have a nice alarm wake me up at 5. You can set 
>> one for the weekend if you like if your routine differs.
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 1:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch
>> 
>> Hi Anna and Malcolm,
>> 
>> I had the same question. I want to use my apple watch to track my 
>> sleep but I don't want the watch talking throughout the night if I move.
>> 
>> With these settings turned off, do I have to tap the watch to get it 
>> to talk?
>> 
>>> On 8/21/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> Hi Terri,
>>> 
>>> Turn off Speak on Wrist Raise either in VoiceOver Settings on the 
>>> watch or in the Watch app on your phone. Then VoiceOver will only 
>>> speak when you wake the watch.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 21, 2023, at 6:26 AM, Terri Stimmel 
 
 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 
 I just have a quick question, or two, regarding my Apple watch.
 
 
 Is there a way to set it, or a way to enable it, so that the watch 
 won't speak, if the face is touched?
 
 Or, just if I move my arm in a certain way?
 
 
 This always seems to be happening to me. Which in most cases is fine.
 
 
 However, I will be attending college soon, and I do not want my 
 watch going off all the time. The yammering would not be appreciated 
 by others, that is for sure. LOL!
 
 
 Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 
 Terri
 
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RE: Perplexing Issue With Languages

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Lielle,

Thanks, that’s interesting. I have several languages in my rotor, and obviously 
I can switch to any of them using the rotor at any time; but I thought that 
Tali was specifically wanting Hebrew to be recognized as such automatically 
when the rotor language was set to her default English voice, without having to 
switch the rotor to Hebrew. You’re right, the automatic detection only works if 
the text has been given the correct language tags by the developers. On my 
iPhone, if I turn Detect Languages off, I always have to use the rotor to 
change languages, and I had the impression that that’s what Tali was trying to 
avoid having to do. Very sorry if I misunderstood and caused confusion – I have 
quite a talent for that at times!

Best

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lielle 
Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: 20 February 2023 20:34
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Perplexing Issue With Languages

 

In order the swich languages will work you need to turn  "detect languages" off.

The ditect languages works only when you use mail or surfe on a website.

It's relized in language tags and some of the times website developers don't 
know about  that.

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‫ב-20 בפבר׳ 2023, בשעה 21:22, ‏‏Nicola Sanders ‏< 
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Hi Tali,

I also updated my iPhone SE 2020 to iOS 16.3.1 this morning, and my language 
detection is still working fine when I set my VoiceOver language to the 
default. I know that isn’t much help to you, but at least it indicates that 
there isn’t a language detection bug in the latest update.

As others have said, the relevant setting is under Voiceover/Speech, where 
Detect Languages needs to be set to ON in order for the language changes to be 
detected automatically.

Apologies if I’m stating the obvious, but have you turned your phone off 
completely and then back on since you installed the update? That can often 
resolve this kind of inexplicable weirdness and I’m sometimes inclined to 
forget to do it when something isn’t working properly.

I hope you manage to find a solution.

Best,

Nicky

 

 

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Lielle Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: 20 February 2023 18:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Perplexing Issue With Languages

 

Hi Tali and all.

I have an iPhone too and Hebrew works fine.

Try several things: 1. add Hebrew to your language on your Rotor.

2. turn off "detect languages in "settings", "accessibility", "VoiceOver", 
"speach".

I hope one of this things wil help, if it doesn't I will happy to help you 
pravetlly.

My phone number is at the bottem of this mail, under the signicher.

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0509549090

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‫ב-20 בפבר׳ 2023, בשעה 17:38, ‏‏Anna Dresner ‏< <mailto:wadres...@att.net> 
wadres...@att.net> כתב/ה:

Hello,

In Speech in VoiceOver Settings, make sure Detect Languages is on.

Best,
Anna






On Feb 20, 2023, at 6:48 AM, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That's what I have to do now, switch between the languages  through

the rotor. It was weird that it worked so well in IOS 15 and not in

this one. And according to the Voice Over settings, there is no reason

why it wouldn't recognize the Hebrew while the English is chosen.

 

On 2/20/23, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:

Try setting up 2 activities: one for English, another one for Hebrew; that's

how I have mine set up: an activity for English, and another one for

Spanish, each one with its voice of course. So within the rotor's

activities, I just flick up or down, to the activity needed at the time,

depending on what I'm doing. Good luck!

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 20 feb 2023, a la(s) 4:10 a.m., Tali Sarnetzky

mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com> > escribió:

 

Hi everyone.

 

I updated to IOS 16.3.1 and it seemed to work OK. I use an SE 2020.

The only issue I have now is that my default language is English and

although the option is chosen as ON under accessibility and voice

over, the phone does not recognize Hebrew automatically and reads it.

I have to go to the rotor, find languages, change to Hebrew and only

then can I read it.

 

I looked everywhere and cannot find a solution. I searched under

languages under general, under spoken content and under voice over and

speech.

Any suggestion would be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Tali

 

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RE: Perplexing Issue With Languages

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Tali,

I also updated my iPhone SE 2020 to iOS 16.3.1 this morning, and my language 
detection is still working fine when I set my VoiceOver language to the 
default. I know that isn’t much help to you, but at least it indicates that 
there isn’t a language detection bug in the latest update.

As others have said, the relevant setting is under Voiceover/Speech, where 
Detect Languages needs to be set to ON in order for the language changes to be 
detected automatically.

Apologies if I’m stating the obvious, but have you turned your phone off 
completely and then back on since you installed the update? That can often 
resolve this kind of inexplicable weirdness and I’m sometimes inclined to 
forget to do it when something isn’t working properly.

I hope you manage to find a solution.

Best,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lielle 
Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: 20 February 2023 18:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Perplexing Issue With Languages

 

Hi Tali and all.

I have an iPhone too and Hebrew works fine.

Try several things: 1. add Hebrew to your language on your Rotor.

2. turn off "detect languages in "settings", "accessibility", "VoiceOver", 
"speach".

I hope one of this things wil help, if it doesn't I will happy to help you 
pravetlly.

My phone number is at the bottem of this mail, under the signicher.

מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.

0509549090

לדף העסקי שלי:

  
https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/

 





‫ב-20 בפבר׳ 2023, בשעה 17:38, ‏‏Anna Dresner ‏<  
wadres...@att.net> כתב/ה:

Hello,

In Speech in VoiceOver Settings, make sure Detect Languages is on.

Best,
Anna





On Feb 20, 2023, at 6:48 AM, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That's what I have to do now, switch between the languages  through

the rotor. It was weird that it worked so well in IOS 15 and not in

this one. And according to the Voice Over settings, there is no reason

why it wouldn't recognize the Hebrew while the English is chosen.

 

On 2/20/23, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:

Try setting up 2 activities: one for English, another one for Hebrew; that's

how I have mine set up: an activity for English, and another one for

Spanish, each one with its voice of course. So within the rotor's

activities, I just flick up or down, to the activity needed at the time,

depending on what I'm doing. Good luck!

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 20 feb 2023, a la(s) 4:10 a.m., Tali Sarnetzky

mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com> > escribió:

 

Hi everyone.

 

I updated to IOS 16.3.1 and it seemed to work OK. I use an SE 2020.

The only issue I have now is that my default language is English and

although the option is chosen as ON under accessibility and voice

over, the phone does not recognize Hebrew automatically and reads it.

I have to go to the rotor, find languages, change to Hebrew and only

then can I read it.

 

I looked everywhere and cannot find a solution. I searched under

languages under general, under spoken content and under voice over and

speech.

Any suggestion would be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Tali

 

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RE: Triple Tap Home

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Karen,
The setting is called Accessibility Shortcut, and you can find it in Settings, 
Accessibility. It's the last setting but one. Double tap on Accessibility 
Shortcut and set it to VoiceOver, and you should be good to go. Let me know if 
that doesn't make sense.
Best
Nicky


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: 15 June 2022 21:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Triple Tap Home

I had to reset my 1st generation SE yesterday, with the help of Apple 
Accessibility.  I discovered today that the triple tap of the Home button no 
longer turns VoiceOver off and on.  Fortunately I was able to do it with the 
help of Siri.

Would someone please tell me where to locate that setting?  I know I've seen 
it, but can't seem to locate it now that I need it.

Thanks.

Karen P  

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RE: Looking for information about an Apple Watch 4th Gen and how to use what's on it.

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

In addition to the great information from Jennie )see below), Brent Harbolt of 
the Harbolt Company also did a paid Apple Watch tutorial recently. Here’s the 
link:

Apple Watch OS Tutorial. Great for Any Level of User, Beginner, Intermediate, 
or Advanced Over 4 Hours Long and Packed With Information (harboltcompany.com) 

 

And here’s the link to the Mystic Access tutorial:

Audio Tutorial on the Apple watch | Mystic Access 
 

The Mystic Access tutorial was updated a year or two ago. I purchased an Apple 
Watch just after Christmas and I found both these tutorials very useful.

Best

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: 02 March 2022 17:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for information about an Apple Watch 4th Gen and how to 
use what's on it.

 

Hi Kevin,

 

I have an AppleWatch and I’ll try to give you some information. As for the 
hourly thin, i don’t think there is a way to get it to tell you what time it is 
on the hour without the sound. There are some tutorials on AppleVis that were 
done back in 2015 that are somewhat valuable today. You can learn about watch 
faces and the like. I know that mystic access also has a paid tutorial that you 
can get that is more current. Last but not least, if you read Braille or want 
to download something from the National Braille press, Anna Dresner wrote a 
book called Watch Without looking or something to that affect. That should get 
you started. There are also a couple watch email groups that you can ask 
questions to. I’ll give you the subscription address to one of them. It is:  
watchosblindusersgroup+subscr...@groups.io 
 

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Jenn

 

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On Mar 2, 2022, at 7:46 AM, Kevin Minor mailto:kmino...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all.

 

I received an Apple Watch 4th Gen as a gift to help me keep track of my pulse.  
I’ve discovered some of how to use this watch, but I’m still unsure of a lot of 
the Watch OS. I’m understanding, for example, the watch has a touch screen like 
an iPhone, and I interact with it the same way I do my phone. The crown is more 
of a mystery to me, and I’d like to learn more of it. In short, where can I 
read about everything Apple Watch and Watch OS, and learn as much as I can 
about it.

 

A final question I have is is there a way to get the audible tone when Siri is 
activated? Right now all I get is the vibrations. I’d like to know if there’s a 
way to get a vocal announcement of the hourly time on my watch? It does produce 
a chime, but I’d like it to tell me what time it is.

 

Finally, I’d like to get a better grasp of watch faces. The one I have shows 
the time and date, UV index which is blank, weather, which is also blank, and 
activity which shows me how I’m doing compared to my movement goal, what 
percentage I’m exercising, and what percentage I’m standing? What do other 
watch faces do?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly

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Problem solved, was: RE: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

Thanks again, Reggie, for your helpful suggestions. Having tried everything, I 
called Apple Accessibility. The guy was very patient and helpful and we used 
the camera on my iPhone to view the TV screen. Having tried all kinds of 
things, including a software update, we ended up drawing a blank and simply 
doing a factory reset of the Apple TV. He was mystified and would have loved to 
find out what had caused the problem, as he hadn’t come across it before. Once 
I had done the factory reset, I was able to turn VoiceOver on and all is now 
working fine again – until next time!

Thanks to all for your patience and take care,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 22:47
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Nicolas, have you tried shutting your Apple TV down? Take out the cord that 
goes into the Apple TV not the HDMI but the other one that shuts it down wait 
for a couple minutes and then put it back in. Now let it reboot. Sometimes just 
a reboot on some of these devices will take care of any problem. I’m looking 
through my settings right now to see if I can help any other way, but since you 
can’t get to the settings, which is a problem, I’m not sure if I’m going to 
find anything that doesn’t require the settings part of it. Just thought of 
some thing. I wonder if somehow you got your Siri shut off in settings. 
Grasping at straws here. I think that there is no other way to shut it off 
except in settings or from the remote, but I’ve never had this happen. I know 
that on the phone you can shut it down completely with a home button or the 
side button depending on which one you have, but I think the Apple TV can just 
be totally shut off either in settings or on the remote. I don’t think there’s 
a mute on the Apple TV like there is on iOS. Still thinking though. I am also a 
relatively new user of the Apple TV so I probably don’t know as much as some 
people do.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



The volume of the VoiceOver navigation sounds is already quite loud, and I 
haven’t found a way to turn up the speech volume without having access to 
speech. Siri doesn’t seem to be clever enough to do that on the Apple TV, or if 
she is, it’s not making any difference.

Tomorrow I may try Be My Eyes, before calling Apple Accessibility. Does anyone 
know whether Apple Accessibility has a means of controlling the Apple TV 
remotely? Just curious.

Thanks,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Agent086b
Sent: 14 December 2020 21:40
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Hi,

have you tried to turn up the volume incase it is down low?

Max.






On 15 Dec 2020, at 6:50 am, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:

 

Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back on, 
both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. Siri 
obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.

Thanks again,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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RE: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

The volume of the VoiceOver navigation sounds is already quite loud, and I 
haven’t found a way to turn up the speech volume without having access to 
speech. Siri doesn’t seem to be clever enough to do that on the Apple TV, or if 
she is, it’s not making any difference.

Tomorrow I may try Be My Eyes, before calling Apple Accessibility. Does anyone 
know whether Apple Accessibility has a means of controlling the Apple TV 
remotely? Just curious.

Thanks,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: 14 December 2020 21:40
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Hi,

have you tried to turn up the volume incase it is down low?

Max.





On 15 Dec 2020, at 6:50 am, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:

 

Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back on, 
both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. Siri 
obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.

Thanks again,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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RE: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back on, 
both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. Siri 
obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.

Thanks again,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no
speech at all. I'm fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the
sounds, but without speech I can't go into the settings and sort it out.
I've tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no
avail so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted
assistance, or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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RE: Magictap gesture not stopping playback of Overcast podcasts

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Alan,
I'm not experiencing this problem myself. I have an iPhone SE 2nd gen running 
iOS14, and the MagicTap gesture is starting and stopping Overcast playback with 
no problems so far.
I hope you manage to resolve the issue, preferably without having to reset all 
settings again! :-) I had to do that myself the other day, on the advice of 
Apple Accessibility. In my case it was really necessary, as I was having an 
extreme version of the focus issue that made my phone virtually unusable in 
some respects. All sorted now, thank goodness.
Best,
Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: 22 September 2020 16:17
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Magictap gesture not stopping playback of Overcast podcasts

Hi List,

I've noticed since upgrading to iOS 14 that the two finger double tap magictap 
gesture doesn't stop playback of a playing Overcast podcast. Is anyone else 
experiencing this behaviour?

Thanks in advance for letting me know and I'll report this to Overcast and 
Apple Accessibility after I hear from others.

Alan Lemly 

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Re: IOS 13.6 question

[Nicola Sanders]

I thought it simply depended whether sounds were turned off. When I press the 
power button to wake up the phone, it almost always speaks the time, unless 
there is a notification on the screen; but I almost always keep my VoiceOver 
sounds turned off. My phone also says "screen locked" when I press the power 
button to lock the phone, when sounds are turned off. Sorry if I'm missing the 
point.
Best,
Nicky


Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Jul 2020, at 16:51, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Just go to the status bar.  That's what I do, if I want to know the
> time, or ask Siri.
> 
>> On 7/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Welcome to newer iOS.
>> If you press it maybe 3 times, you will hear the time.
>> Power, never, ever, has "unlocked" the screen.
>> It might wake it up momentarily, but it is the home button that actually
>> unlocks it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ
>> Kiehne
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question
>> 
>> It's allways been the case when I press the power button, voiceover would
>> announce the time.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question
>> 
>> I don't know what you are talking about.  My iPhone has never said anything
>> when I press the power button to unlock it.  I didn't even know that you
>> could do that.  If my iPhone is locked and I hit the power button, I hear a
>> little noise that is it.
>> 
>>> On 7/17/20, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>> I just bought a ipad mini5.  It was running ios 13.4.1.  I updated it
>>> to ios 13.6.  When I press the power button to unlock the screen,
>>> voiceover says nothing?  Is this a known issue?
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RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,
If you were looking for a certain specific email, it would probably be quicker 
to use the search function in the Mail app: you would presumably know something 
about the message, such as who it was from, or what was in the subject line, so 
you could search for those words in the editfield. The scroll bar is more 
useful if you want to move through your list of messages in fairly big steps. 
For example, supposing I had been very ill at the beginning of April and had 
been unable to cope with emails for around a week: I may now wish to go back 
and deal with the messages that had come in around that time, so I could swipe 
down using the vertical scroll bar. After each swipe, which would move me down 
by 10%, I would touch the middle of the screen and listen to the date of the 
message that I landed on; once I got close to the date I wanted, such as 1 
April in my example, I would then use the three-finger swipe up or down in 
order to find the messages with that date. Of course, you can also filter your 
emails so that you only see unread messages, but that's not strictly related to 
the scroll bar.
I'm probably making this sound more complicated than it is, and sorry if my 
example is a bit contrived, but I think you'll get the idea. The scroll bar is 
just one tool among others, but I find that it can be very useful in many 
situations: today I used it to navigate more quickly through a food delivery 
app, for example.
Best,
Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: 06 June 2020 18:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message 
window

Can you give me a little more instructions about finding a certain email using 
the scroll bar because this is what I would probably use it for. This does make 
sense but I just want a little more help in understanding about finding say a 
certain email.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders  wrote:
> 
> Hi Shirley,
> Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the shift 
> in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a couple of examples 
> of how I use it.
> As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running down the 
> right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a list (or a 
> document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the vertical scroll bar, 
> VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". When you swipe down on the 
> scroll bar with one finger, it moves you down through the list in increments 
> of 10%; so however long your list or page may be, you can get from top to 
> bottom with just ten one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up 
> using three fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, 
> just a screen at a time, and so it takes a lot longer to move through the 
> list and locate what you're looking for.
> One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called Sky+. In 
> the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to 999, with 
> a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read the channels 
> starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical scroll bar and swipe 
> down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far off. I touch the middle of the 
> screen to read one of the channel numbers currently displayed, and I can then 
> use the three-finger swipe up or down to find the exact location. If I were 
> to do a three-finger swipe through the whole list, it would take me far 
> longer, as each screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't 
> find it that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm 
> inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the screen before 
> continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical scroll bar.
> I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have far too 
> many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them up. Obviously I 
> can search for a specific message, but I may just want to look at the emails 
> that I received around a certain time. Again, the three-finger swipe would 
> take ages.
> I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or newspaper 
> article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages as well, as it 
> can often be difficult to navigate through the whole page by headings. In 
> many situations I can do a three-finger tap on the middle of the screen to 
> hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to 41 of 72"; next time I want to find 
> that location, I use the scroll bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far 
> out.
> Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the three-finger 
> swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when using the tr

Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Shirley,
Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the shift in 
topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a couple of examples of 
how I use it.
As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running down the 
right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a list (or a document, 
a webpage or whatever), when you touch the vertical scroll bar, VoiceOver will 
say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". When you swipe down on the scroll bar with one 
finger, it moves you down through the list in increments of 10%; so however 
long your list or page may be, you can get from top to bottom with just ten 
one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up using three fingers, 
but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, just a screen at a time, 
and so it takes a lot longer to move through the list and locate what you're 
looking for.
One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called Sky+. In the 
TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to 999, with a few 
gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read the channels starting from 
number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical scroll bar and swipe down to around 
50%, and I know I won't be far off. I touch the middle of the screen to read 
one of the channel numbers currently displayed, and I can then use the 
three-finger swipe up or down to find the exact location. If I were to do a 
three-finger swipe through the whole list, it would take me far longer, as each 
screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't find it that easy to 
use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm inclined to lose focus and 
have to tap the middle of the screen before continuing. There are no such 
problems with the vertical scroll bar.
I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have far too 
many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them up. Obviously I 
can search for a specific message, but I may just want to look at the emails 
that I received around a certain time. Again, the three-finger swipe would take 
ages.
I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or newspaper 
article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages as well, as it can 
often be difficult to navigate through the whole page by headings. In many 
situations I can do a three-finger tap on the middle of the screen to hear 
roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to 41 of 72"; next time I want to find that 
location, I use the scroll bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far out.
Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the three-finger 
swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when using the traditional 
swipe gesture, to move from the top to the bottom.
I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to clarify.
HTH,
Nicky

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window

What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't understand how 
to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would make sense please.
q
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll bar! I 
> find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much quicker than 
> endless three-finger swiping. Perhaps it should be an option in Settings.
> Best,
> Nicky
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window
> 
> Boy I would too! 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dave
> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window
> 
> I would like the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> From: Anne West <mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>  
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window
> 
> 
> I agree. It seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid 
> of that info too. It’s annoying.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Afik 
> Souffir
> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Ann, 
> 
> I dont think that its have an option for this. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Iphone
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

RE: Removing the clutter on The message window

[Nicola Sanders]

Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll bar! I find 
it really useful for navigating very long lists - much quicker than endless 
three-finger swiping. Perhaps it should be an option in Settings.
Best,
Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window

Boy I would too! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window

I would like the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: Anne West   
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window
 

I agree. It seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid 
of that info too. It’s annoying.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Afik 
Souffir
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window

 

 

Hi Ann, 

I dont think that its have an option for this. 

 

 

Sent from my Iphone





On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the 
names of other apps, camera, record, and so on.  Is there a way to clear the 
crud off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can navigate directly to 
the text area and the keyboard without having to negotiate fifteen other items 
that don't relate to texting?

I hope.

Thx,

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Re: how to get voice over to say if the screen is locked?

[Nicola Sanders]

Mine does say "screen locked", but only because I have sounds turned off in the 
rotor. I got used to having the sounds off because I often use a Braille 
display, and now I find them annoying. It's all a question of personal 
preference.
Best, Nicky


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> On 25 May 2020, at 01:48, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dennis,
>  
> I don't know whether it's possible to get Voiceover to announce when your 
> screen automatically locks but I suspect not. I have a procedural solution 
> that I use. I don't like my iPhone to automatically lock since it seemed to 
> do it at the most inconvenient times when I had it turned on. So, I went to 
> Settings, Display and brightness, and set Auto-lock to never. Now, I simply 
> press the power button on my SE 2020, hear a click, and know it is locked. I 
> much prefer to control when the phone locks so hopefully you can find the 
> setting that works for you too.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 5:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Is this possible?  When the screen locks?
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Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels

[Nicola Sanders]

Thanks. Likewise, I also got a reply that he's looking into it.
Quick question: Would the "reset all settings" require me to reorganize all my 
apps on the home screen into folders? If so, I was thinking that I could do it 
the coward's way: 
1: Turn off iCloud sync and uninstall Voice Dream on phone B; 2: Reset all 
settings on phone A; 3: Assuming that the duplicates problem is resolved on 
phone A, reinstall Voice Dream on phone B and sync with iCloud;
4: Back up phone B to iCloud and restore phone A from that backup.
Anyway, it's nearly midnight here,  so we'll see what happens. It's more of an 
intriguing problem than a really serious disaster.

"

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2020, at 23:22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> I got a reply from Voice Dream Support and he is looking into it.
> If I hear more, I’ll pass it on.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nicola 
> Sanders
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels
>  
> Hi all,
> Thanks for your thoughts, experiences and suggestions. Richard, I may indeed 
> get in touch with Apple Accessibility, but think I'll wait to hear back from 
> Winston first. I also thought of using Be My Eyes on one phone to examine the 
> screen of the other!
> Alan, in my case I have iCloud sync turned on. I too well remember the 
> horrendous problems that Mary had with her library. But since my library is 
> quite small and I make sure I back up anything important, I decided to go for 
> the "feel the fear and do it anyway" approach and stick with iCloud sync in 
> my case. My problemis nowhere near as serious as Mary's, as I can access all 
> my content and haven't lost anything. Famous last words!
> I have noticed that a folder that I added about a year ago hasn't been 
> duplicated, which makes me think that the problem may have happened some time 
> ago.
> You may have spotted that I'm rather reluctant to reset all settings, as I 
> don't fancy all that work, but I may not be able to avoid it forever.
> I'll keep you posted.
> Nicky
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 29 Apr 2020, at 20:22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> It happened to me as duplicate file names and I had cloud sync turned off.
> I wish I knew what setting that was reset when I reset all settings that 
> fixed the problem.
> But the fact that resetting all settings fixed it still makes me think its an 
> iOS VoiceOver issue, even though Voice Dream Reader is the only app that 
> behaved this way.
>  
> 
> Richard
> Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm curious whether those experiencing the Voice Dream duplicate folder label 
> problem have iCloud Sync turned on in their Voice Dream settings. I've never 
> turned this on since I only use one mobile device and I recall a problem Mary 
> experienced losing her Voice Dream library when she turned on iCloud Sync 
> when it was first introduced. I'm getting ready to set up a new iPhone and 
> want to get my Voice Dream content transferred but I'm less than convinced 
> that iCloud Sync is the best way to do this. I have sent an email to Voice 
> Dream Support asking about this but I don't think I'm going to get a reply 
> before my iPhone arrives tomorrow.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nicola Sanders
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels
>  
> Hi, thanks to both, interesting that you've had similar problems.
> Richard, I don't have access to physical sighted assistance at the moment 
> because of the lockdown, but I think my problem may be slightly different: 
> The duplicate folder names are not adjacent to each other, but spread 
> throughout the very long list at more or less regular intervals in a 
> sequence. I can move through the list using a three-finger swipe, and if i do 
> a three-finger single tap, VoiceOver will say something like "items 95 to 99 
> of 322", reflecting the extent to which I've swiped through the list. This 
> leads me to think that the folder names are actually visible in my case, as 
> opposed to mere figments of VoiceOver's imagination:
> You're definitely right to counsel caution, and I'll contact Winston and wait 
> for the response before doing anything rash. I'll re

Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,
Thanks for your thoughts, experiences and suggestions. Richard, I may indeed 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, but think I'll wait to hear back from 
Winston first. I also thought of using Be My Eyes on one phone to examine the 
screen of the other!
Alan, in my case I have iCloud sync turned on. I too well remember the 
horrendous problems that Mary had with her library. But since my library is 
quite small and I make sure I back up anything important, I decided to go for 
the "feel the fear and do it anyway" approach and stick with iCloud sync in my 
case. My problemis nowhere near as serious as Mary's, as I can access all my 
content and haven't lost anything. Famous last words!
I have noticed that a folder that I added about a year ago hasn't been 
duplicated, which makes me think that the problem may have happened some time 
ago.
You may have spotted that I'm rather reluctant to reset all settings, as I 
don't fancy all that work, but I may not be able to avoid it forever.
I'll keep you posted.
Nicky

Sent from my iPhone

>> On 29 Apr 2020, at 20:22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> It happened to me as duplicate file names and I had cloud sync turned off.
> I wish I knew what setting that was reset when I reset all settings that 
> fixed the problem.
> But the fact that resetting all settings fixed it still makes me think its an 
> iOS VoiceOver issue, even though Voice Dream Reader is the only app that 
> behaved this way.
> 
> 
> Richard
> Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious whether those experiencing the Voice Dream duplicate folder 
>> label problem have iCloud Sync turned on in their Voice Dream settings. I've 
>> never turned this on since I only use one mobile device and I recall a 
>> problem Mary experienced losing her Voice Dream library when she turned on 
>> iCloud Sync when it was first introduced. I'm getting ready to set up a new 
>> iPhone and want to get my Voice Dream content transferred but I'm less than 
>> convinced that iCloud Sync is the best way to do this. I have sent an email 
>> to Voice Dream Support asking about this but I don't think I'm going to get 
>> a reply before my iPhone arrives tomorrow.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Nicola Sanders
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels
>>  
>> Hi, thanks to both, interesting that you've had similar problems.
>> Richard, I don't have access to physical sighted assistance at the moment 
>> because of the lockdown, but I think my problem may be slightly different: 
>> The duplicate folder names are not adjacent to each other, but spread 
>> throughout the very long list at more or less regular intervals in a 
>> sequence. I can move through the list using a three-finger swipe, and if i 
>> do a three-finger single tap, VoiceOver will say something like "items 95 to 
>> 99 of 322", reflecting the extent to which I've swiped through the list. 
>> This leads me to think that the folder names are actually visible in my 
>> case, as opposed to mere figments of VoiceOver's imagination:
>> You're definitely right to counsel caution, and I'll contact Winston and 
>> wait for the response before doing anything rash. I'll report back to the 
>> list, if you're interested.
>> Best, Nicky
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On 29 Apr 2020, at 03:59, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t know, but since visually there is no problem, but VoiceOver double 
>> speaks, then to me that is a VoiceOver issue.
>> It came up out of nowhere for me on two different phones.
>> Frankly, I’m chalking it up to iOS 13.4.1 but I really have no idea.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anthony Borg
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels
>>  
>> Hi richard
>>  
>> I also noticed that problem as well. I don’t know how who created it didn’t 
>> notice it as well.
>> Regards
>>  
>> Anthony
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: 29 April 2020 01:40

Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi, thanks to both, interesting that you've had similar problems.
Richard, I don't have access to physical sighted assistance at the moment 
because of the lockdown, but I think my problem may be slightly different: The 
duplicate folder names are not adjacent to each other, but spread throughout 
the very long list at more or less regular intervals in a sequence. I can move 
through the list using a three-finger swipe, and if i do a three-finger single 
tap, VoiceOver will say something like "items 95 to 99 of 322", reflecting the 
extent to which I've swiped through the list. This leads me to think that the 
folder names are actually visible in my case, as opposed to mere figments of 
VoiceOver's imagination:
You're definitely right to counsel caution, and I'll contact Winston and wait 
for the response before doing anything rash. I'll report back to the list, if 
you're interested.
Best, Nicky


Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2020, at 03:59, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don’t know, but since visually there is no problem, but VoiceOver double 
> speaks, then to me that is a VoiceOver issue.
> It came up out of nowhere for me on two different phones.
> Frankly, I’m chalking it up to iOS 13.4.1 but I really have no idea.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels
>  
> Hi richard
>  
> I also noticed that problem as well. I don’t know how who created it didn’t 
> notice it as well.
> Regards
>  
> Anthony
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 29 April 2020 01:40
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels
>  
> Before you do any drastic in Voice Dream Reader, you may have a variation on 
> an issue I have had twice now.
> Suddenly, Voice Over was saying the same file name twice, when visually there 
> was only one.
> If I deleted one, both were gone.
> Somewhat accidentally, I discovered that reseting all settings resolved the 
> issue.
> Now, this is a royal pain, because most of the settings you have customized 
> are back to defaults, like keyboard, Siri, wall paper, rotor, and on and on.
> Since this was clearly a VoiceOver issue, since my sighted wife confirmed 
> there really were only one copy of each file; mucking around in Voice Dream 
> Reader probably isn't going to solve it.
> I would just proceed with caution.
>  
> 
> Richard
> Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Nicola Sanders  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I meant to post this yesterday, but life got in the way. I have a strange 
> problem with Voice Dream Reader: as per the subject line, I have discovered 
> that I have multiple instances of the same folder name in my list of folders. 
> I do not have duplicates of the actual files in the folders, and the “all 
> items” list shows the right number of items in my library. I have around 15 
> folders, but in my folder list there are more than 200 items – at least, 
> there were until I started to clean them up.
> If I delete one of the duplicate folder labels, all the instances of that 
> folder name are removed and the files in that folder are “moved” to the “no 
> folder” list. I realize that these are not actual physical folders, but they 
> are more like the labels used in Gmail, I assume. Having all these duplicate 
> folder names is very inconvenient, as I discovered to my cost when I wanted 
> to reorder my folders alphabetically: newly created folders are placed at the 
> bottom of the list, and it is really tricky to move them all the way up from 
> position 200 to, let’s say, position 10 in the list.
> I think I should be able to straighten things out by making sure my “no 
> folder” list is empty, deleting a folder, recreating it with the same name, 
> selecting the contents of the “no folder” list and moving it into the folder 
> I just created. However, I am really wondering whether anyone else has had a 
> similar problem, and what I can do in future to prevent it from happening.
> A bit of background: I have iCloud Drive on my PC and I usually add items to 
> my Voice Dream library by placing them in the Loader subfolder of the Reader 
> folder in iCloud Drive. I also add items to my library using share sheets 
> from other apps. I happen to have two iPhones, both using VDR and syncing 
> with iCloud, and my gut feeling is that

Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,

I meant to post this yesterday, but life got in the way. I have a strange
problem with Voice Dream Reader: as per the subject line, I have discovered
that I have multiple instances of the same folder name in my list of
folders. I do not have duplicates of the actual files in the folders, and
the "all items" list shows the right number of items in my library. I have
around 15 folders, but in my folder list there are more than 200 items - at
least, there were until I started to clean them up.

If I delete one of the duplicate folder labels, all the instances of that
folder name are removed and the files in that folder are "moved" to the "no
folder" list. I realize that these are not actual physical folders, but they
are more like the labels used in Gmail, I assume. Having all these duplicate
folder names is very inconvenient, as I discovered to my cost when I wanted
to reorder my folders alphabetically: newly created folders are placed at
the bottom of the list, and it is really tricky to move them all the way up
from position 200 to, let's say, position 10 in the list.

I think I should be able to straighten things out by making sure my "no
folder" list is empty, deleting a folder, recreating it with the same name,
selecting the contents of the "no folder" list and moving it into the folder
I just created. However, I am really wondering whether anyone else has had a
similar problem, and what I can do in future to prevent it from happening.

A bit of background: I have iCloud Drive on my PC and I usually add items to
my Voice Dream library by placing them in the Loader subfolder of the Reader
folder in iCloud Drive. I also add items to my library using share sheets
from other apps. I happen to have two iPhones, both using VDR and syncing
with iCloud, and my gut feeling is that this could be part of the problem. I
always try to avoid having Voice Dream open on both phones at the same time,
but I cannot guarantee that this has never occurred inadvertently. I can
open the Library folder in iCloud Drive on the PC, but I would hesitate to
try to edit it without knowing exactly what I was doing, as I would really
prefer not to lose files if I can help it. My library is not very large -
only about 320 items, many of which are fairly small files - so I don't
think that's the problem.

I will contact Voice Dream Support about this, but I thought I'd ask on here
as well, in case anyone has had a similar experience. I believe that these
folder labels must have been proliferating for a while without me even
realizing it, which I know sounds rather strange! It's easy enough for me to
check how many folders I have by doing a three-finger single tap, but I just
never thought to do it. It certainly explains why I could only ever find new
folders by starting from the bottom of the list.

All the best and sorry for the long post,

Nicky

 

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Re: transfering items from all items to folders in Dream Reader

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Vicki,
Just to add to Richard's helpful instructions: In any list of files, including 
the "no folder", you should find an Edit button near the top, just after the 
folder name. Double tap this button and you can then select any files in the 
list by double tapping them. You will hear the word "selected" for each item, 
so you can easily check to make sure you have chosen the correct files.
At the bottom of the screen you should find options such as Move To Folder, 
Delete and, I think, Add to Reading List. Double tap "Move to Folder" and you 
can then just double tap on your desired destination folder. Repeat the process 
until your "no folder" list is empty.
I hope this is comprehensible and good luck! I am having a weird Voice Dream 
problem myself, but will post about it later in a separate thread.
Best,
Nicky

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> On 27 Apr 2020, at 14:27, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Great. That is very helpful. I think for the first time, unless I can figure 
> out a way to select files as a group without selecting them all, I will just 
> need to organize them the hard way. After that, it will be easy.
>  
> Vicki
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:20 AM
> Subject: Re: transfering items from all items to folders in Dream Reader
> 
> The No Folder, is not really a folder. In fact, none of them are folders in 
> the traditional sense.
> They are organizing labels.
> All items, will show you everything you have in Voice Dream.
> The folders you create, just simplify the organization.
> The No folder is just a way to show you if there are files you have not yet 
> organized, and trust me, you would not want to delete it.
> If you happened to have All Items selected when you downloaded a new book, it 
> wouldn't go into a folder, and unless you wanted to sort through every file 
> to find it and put it in a folder, you could use No Folder to find it 
> immediately.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:14 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, they are all in the No Folder. There are several. If I place them in 
>> the folders I want them in, can I delete the No Folder folder or is that a 
>> folder which needs to remain, even though it is empty?
>>  
>> Vicki
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: transfering items from all items to folders in Dream Reader
>> 
>> Are you saying that you have some that are not in the folder you want them 
>> in?
>> I have never tried to do more than one book at a time, but you want to 
>> select the sort by folder, then the one that says No Folder.
>> That shows you the books you have not put in a folder yet, then you can move 
>> them to the folder you want.
>> As for selecting more than one at a time, I'd write supp...@voicedream.com 
>> and ask about that.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
>> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 4:55 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I have created my folders in Dream reader, but now I can't transfer my 
>>> files from the all items to the individual folders. How can I  select 
>>> several at a time from the long list and move them to the correct folders?
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
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Re: notifications repeating

[Nicola Sanders]

Re the scrub gesture: Keep in mind that it can be a very small movement, and 
certainly doesn't have to cover much of the screen area at all. I place two 
fingertips close together, anywhere on the screen, and make a quick "right left 
right" movement, with both fingers moving together. It's just as if I were 
trying to scrub something clean. As Sieghard said, it doesn't have to be right 
left right, it can be down up down, left right left, etc. No need to make a 
zigzag, I usually move my fingers over the same area with each of the three 
parts of the quick movement. it's just a straight line: right left right, in my 
case. The main thing to remember is that it's a short, quick, compact gesture.
Hope I haven't confused things even more and that this message helps someone. 
If not, feel free to scrub it.
Best,
Nicky



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> On 20 Dec 2019, at 08:23, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> if you are near your phone when the notification comes in you can swipe down 
> with one finger until you hear dismiss.  it is when you are doing something 
> else and are not able to get to your phone that it drives you round the bend.
>  
> From: kheve...@earthlink.net
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 2:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: notifications repeating
>  
> Please refresh my memory on how to make the scrub gesture.  Thanks. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 5:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: notifications repeating
>  
> 
> Wayne, just do the scrub gesture and the notification will disappear. I made 
> a new gesture as the scrub I never had success with. I just tap 3 times with 
> 3 fingers and it's gone. Still if not at my phone it will just keep on 
> repeating so I just put in another request they fix because of that. The 
> person definitely understood how annoying it was and the engineers are 
> looking at it.
> Reggie Alvarado
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> What is the workaround? Wayne 
> 
> Wayne Scott
>  
> "Everything happens in God's chime."
>  
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2019, at 2:35 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> For all who hate these recurring notifications, call Accessibility. If they 
> get enough crabbiness they'll tell engineering to do something. Crabbing here 
> does not fix the problem! They gave me a workaround which does work, but I 
> told them it needs to go back the way it used to be. If we all call they will 
> have to find a solution.
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>  
> 
> And again and again and again, bomb Apple's servers with that bug and do 
> stress that from even the beginning of the beta cycling until now Apple is 
> refusing to tackle this nasty bug.
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: notifications repeating
> 
> I have had that problem since ios13 came out
> 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Nicki Keck  wrote:
>  
> And what if you are not near your phone for a few minutes?  I usually am, but 
> sometimes I might be typing an e-mail on my computer and I have to stop to go 
> dismiss a notification because it's annoying me.  That's when it gets 
> irritating.  Fortunately, I always turn on do not disturb at night, or it 
> would probably wake me up doing that kind of thing.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: notifications repeating
>  
> I get it,  just wish apple would fix this, it's not hard yes, but it does get 
> tedius.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: notifications repeating
>  
> Yes, it's a bit annoying but dismissing a notification banner isn't so hard, 
> just touch near the top left of the screen and then flick down and double tap.
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 9:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: notifications repeating
>  
> Not always, I have to dismiss them.
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Teresa 
> Christian
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: notifications repeating
>  
> That is driving me nuts too!
> I finally figured out pressing the home button seems to stop it, but still, 
> huge drag that you have to mess with it at all.
> Teresa☺
>  
> On 12/18/19, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone  wrote:
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Hey guys, have you guys noticed in the 13 series of iOS, voiceover's
> repeating notifications until you dismiss 

Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?

[Nicola Sanders]

Just to be different, I like the British English Kate voice. I also like the US 
Siri female voice. I'm really not very keen on Samantha, and I don't like 
Danial, for some reason. I like Ivona Amy, but of course, that's only available 
with apps like Voice Dream Reader, not with VoiceOver. It's all very subjective 
and I'm so glad we have plenty of choices these days.
Best,
Nicky


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> On 10 Jun 2019, at 23:16, Dave  wrote:
> 
> no.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Anthony Vece
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 10:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?
> 
> Is Eloquence available on the iPhone?
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd get eloquence too. I don't find any of the ios voices very satisfactory 
>> but I don't really use my phone or ipad for getting work done. I use some of 
>> the OCR and GPS apps and a podcatcher and rss reader for pleasure.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
>> Reese
>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 3:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?
>> 
>> I also use Alex. And I also like James quite a lot and I would strongly 
>> consider switching to it if I could.
>> But truth to tell, if I could get Eloquence for my iPad Mini, I'd buy it.
>> Evan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 4:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?
>> 
>> I have been using Alex for a long time. Tom is OK. Truth to tell, if Apple 
>> would ever let me use the James voice I use in voice dream reader, I would 
>> be a happy camper. I’m not going to hold my breath and wait for that to 
>> happen.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like alex and Samantha is also good. From Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Mama Peach
>>> Sent: June 10, 2019 4:15 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice
>>> over?
>>> 
>>> I prefer Alex myself.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Lisa P. Geibel
>>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 4:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice
>>> over?
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My husband, Marcus, and I prefer to use Tom.
>>> 
>>> Lisa P. Geibel
>>> For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call
>>> 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
>>> For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number
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>>> 
 On 6/10/2019 3:30 PM, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone wrote:
 What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over? I like
 to us e Ava.I find her very natural
 
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Re: Voices on voice dream

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,
Just chiming in re the Siri voices: I believe that Aaron, and his female 
counterpart Nicky, were the official US Siri voices prior to the latest 
versions, which came out in either iOS 12 or 11, I can't remember which. Nicky 
and Aaron, plus their equivalents in other languages, are available for use in 
Voice Dream Reader, and I think this was also the case before they were demoted 
from official Siri voice status. It's just the latest Siri voices which Apple 
has not made available to third-party developers. So I think Mary and Richard 
are both right: Aaron is now just another voice, but he used to be a Siri voice 
and was available in VDR at the time.
Sorry for the long message and please feel free to correct any unintentional 
misinformation.
All the best,
Nicky, but not the former Siri voice, I'm afraid I sound far too British, LOL!


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> On 5 May 2019, at 06:28, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I know all about Ivona Amy.  She is pretty good.  I think Ivona Sally
> and Ivona Joey are also very nice.  I like Acapela Sharon, and Acapela
> Laura as well.  I won't touch Ivona Kendra.  Some of the neospeech
> voices like Bridget, Hugh, Paul, or Kate are also very good.
> 
>> On 5/4/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Interesting. Somebody told me that Aaron was the name of the male Siri
>> voice. I don’t use it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actualy, Aaron is just an iOS voice. Apple doesn't let third party
>>> developers use the Siri voices for their apps.
>>> James is from Neo Speech.
>>> My personal favorite is Amy from Ivona, a British female voice.
>>> James is my choice for a male American voice.
>>> You will want to sample them and see what sounds good to you since voices
>>> are so subjective.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
>>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
>>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 4, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 If I’m not mistaken Aaron is a Siri voice. You can use all of the voices
 that voiceover has. You can also purchase other voices through voice
 dream. My personal favorites are James and Kendra. The latter is from
 Ivona, and the former is from Riehl speak I think. You can do all that
 under I think it’s called manage my voices. You can choose from iOS
 voices including the Siri ones, or you can buy voices from places like a
 cappella or Ivona etc.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 4, 2019, at 7:45 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> Is it possible to get Siri voice when reading witth vdr?
> And secondly,   among the available voices,
> 
> Which one is the more popular
> I want to use different voices for fiction and nonfiction  currently my
> default voice is Aron
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Re: Mark's Recommendation for a Great iPad Screen Protector

[Nicola Sanders]

For what it's worth, I'' fully endorse this recommendation. I have an amFilm 
screen protector on my iPhone 6S and I think it has the nicest texture of any 
that I have tried over the years. They're very reasonably priced and apparently 
they're easy to apply. I did ask a sighted person to do mine, as I didn't trust 
myself to be able to avoid bubbles forming under it.
Best
Nicky


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> On 27 Apr 2019, at 06:36, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Recently, I purchased a 10.5 inch iPad Pro.
> 
> Even though the device has a marvelous retina display, I began to regret
> touching it primarily because of the fact that it seems to attract dust and
> finger-oil particles and smudges more than any other Apple device I've ever
> owned.  I checked with a buddy of mine, at the Apple Store, and he readily
> concurred with my finding.  
> 
> In short, unlike with my beloved iPhone 8 Plus, with its tempered glass
> screen protector onboard, my fingers would not slide smoothly across the
> surface of the iPad Pro because of the rapid buildup of dust and oil
> particles.
> 
> So, after conducting much research, I came across a tempered glass screen
> protector for my iPad Pro for a little less than $10.
> 
> I have been using it for a couple of days, now, and it is absolutely
> fantastic.  In fact, I would say that the iPad Pro display is now as
> enjoyable to touch as my 8 Plus in that my fingers slide smoothly across the
> surface because there is no longer any rapid buildup of dust and oil
> particles.
> 
> I am going to post a link to the iPad 10.5 Pro product as it is listed on
> Amazon but please note that the company does make tempered glass screen
> protectors for virtually all of the iPad product lines.
> 
> Also note that, while the product is easy to install, I recommend that you
> have a sighted person perform the installation.  Based on my experience, all
> things being equal, including the cleaning of your iPad display,
> installation could take anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes.  
> 
> Good Luck and Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Product Description:  
> amFilm Glass Screen Protector for iPad Air 3 (2019) 10.5 inch, iPad Pro 10.5
> (2017) (2 Pack) Tempered Glass, Apple Pencil Compatible.
> 
> On Amazon at:
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZFR7G2/ref=cm_sw_r_em_tai_c_dU8WCbNMXSDER
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Re: Unable to buy anything on Amazon using iPhone

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,

This is a very annoying problem. I recently made a purchase using the app and I 
was only able to select the address by locating the "send to this address" 
button on the screen, turning VoiceOver off, touching the screen once at the 
exact location and immediately turning VoiceOver back on. Obghiously you have 
to be very careful when doing this, as in my case the relevant button was very 
close to the "delete this address" button, but I was lucky and it worked first 
time. Of course, I realize that this workaround is not an acceptable solution 
and I'll contact Amazon about it as well. I only mention it in case, like me, 
you're really stuck and need to get the job done without waiting for access to 
a PC.
Best
Nicky


Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Jan 2019, at 20:13, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Judi,
> Try filling out this contact form on the UK website, I think they would then 
> call you.
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/ap/signin?_encoding=UTF8_handle=anywhere_v2_uk_id=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0%2Fidentifier_select=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0%2Fidentifier_select=checkid_setup=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fextensions%2Fpape%2F1.0_auth_age=0_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fgp%2Faw%2Fpsi.html%3Fie%3DUTF8%26cartID%3D261-0240397-2520054%26destinationURL%3D%252Fgp%252Faw%252Fcontact-us%252Fphone%26packedQuery%3Dref_%257Caw_cu_landing=anywhere_uk=%3Fie%3DUTF8%26destinationURL%3D%252Fgp%252Faw%252Fcontact-us%252Fphone%26ref%255F%3Daw%255Fcu%255Flanding
> 
> 
> 
> "He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."
> Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20, 
> 1648)
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
>> I am in the UK Richard the emails between Amazon and I have been going on 
>> for quite a while with no results.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 3 Jan 2019, at 18:18, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just discovered that too.
>>> You can do it through the web, but not through their app.
>>> I'd suggest calling Amazon customer service for people with disabilities 
>>> at: 888-283-1678
>>> And tell them about this and perhaps they can assist with the order.
>>> I just had to finish an order with my computer through their web site.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Judy 
>>> Pryor
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:58 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Unable to buy anything on Amazon using iPhone
>>> 
>>> For quite a while now I have been unable to buy anything from Amazon using 
>>> my iPhone SE running the latest ios.  I can get as far as selecting an 
>>> address and can go no further.  I then have to get my old Macbook and 
>>> complete the purchase from there.  Its driving me crazy.  I have had 
>>> several emails from Amazon saying I should sign out and delete all Cookies 
>>> which I think I did. I cleared out the history on my iPhone or should i do 
>>> something else.
>>> 
>>> Any help would be very much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
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Re: Does Anyone own both a Sonos One and a Play:1 Speaker - Question About Airplay

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Sieghard,
Yes, I can confirm that Airplay also works on my Sonos PlayBase, which is 
paired with two of the older Play 1 speakers.

Best

Nicky



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> On 27 Nov 2018, at 20:37, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Sonos One and Play 5 for now, actually, I think also on the new Beam 
> SoundBar and possible on the PlayBase as well. The new Sonos Amp also has it. 
> It is available through installers now and will be available for normal 
> purchase in February.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 2:28 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: RE: Does Anyone own both a Sonos One and a Play:1 Speaker - Question 
> About Airplay
> 
> Is AirPlay on Sonos only on Play 1 and Play 5? This has been my 
> understanding. I have 4 Play 3's, and not really a place I'd want a Play1. I 
> could use a standalone Play 3 in a little used room, though, where I would 
> put one of my current Play 3's.
> 
> Thanks, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:17 PM
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Does Anyone own both a Sonos One and a Play:1 Speaker 
> - Question About Airplay
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I think you have to group them. The Sonos One will receive the stream from 
> your iPhone via Airplay and of course anything you group with it will also 
> play it, but if you take the Sonos One out of the group I don't see how the 
> Play 1 can receive the stream. I have two stereo sets of Sonos 1 speakers and 
> our Apple TV fourth generation, if I go to Airplay in Audible I see only 
> Bathroom, Kitchen and Apple TV and bathroom and kitchen are where my Sonos 
> One speakers are.
> However, if it is Audible you want to play you could play it on any Sonos 
> device via the Connect to a device button which is somewhere in the middle of 
> the screen, in terms of swiping it is one swipe to the right from the book 
> title image and one swipe to the left of the Jump back button.
> You may need to have Audible set up in your Sonos app as a source and you can 
> of course also access any of your books directly via the Sonos app and bypass 
> the Audible app completely.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Carlson
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 2:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Does Anyone own both a Sonos One and a Play:1 Speaker - Question 
> About Airplay
> 
> I have read that I can use Airplay on my Play:1 speaker as long as I also 
> have a Sonos 1. Is this true only when I group the Play:1 and the Sonos 1 
> together...and does this mean that both speakers must be playing the same 
> AirPlay content? Stated another way, can I use AirPlay on just the Play:1 
> speaker as long as I have a Sonos 1 set up in my network even though the 
> SOnos 1 would not be streaming AirPlay content.
> 
> I hope this makes sense. 
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Re: Most accessible podcast app?

[Nicola Sanders]

Thanks, Richard and Maria, I think the reason why I'm not seeing the length of 
episodes in Overcast is because I stream them. In Downcast, you can see the 
length regardless of whether you stream or download, and I do some of each. 
Richard, am I right in assuming that you download your episodes in Overcast?

Thanks,

Nicky



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> On 14 Oct 2018, at 22:58, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> In Overcast, when I flick to an episode, I hear: for example, 107 the final 
> episode in this series, Jonathan Mosen's Smart Home, October 8th, 55 minutes.
> 
> And with the smart speed feature, it would be less.
> 
> I don't know if Downcast just puts the time sooner, but the length of the 
> podcast is listed.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nicola 
> Sanders
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 1:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Most accessible podcast app?
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I use both Overcast and Downcast, but personally I have a slight preference 
> for Downcast. I love the Overcast effects which have been discussed earlier 
> in this thread, but with Downcast I really like being able to see the length 
> of each episode before I start to play it. I am subscribed to far too many 
> podcasts, some in each app, and I would love to know how to check the episode 
> length in Overcast in order to make maximum use of time. I freely admit that 
> my preference for Downcast may have a lot to do with familiarity. I like to 
> be able to stream some podcast feeds and download others, and at the moment I 
> can't remember whether this is possible in Overcast. Downcast has a lot of 
> individual feed customisations, such as the number of episodes to keep, when 
> to refresh the feed, etc. I think they're both great apps.
> 
> Best
> 
> Nicky
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2018, at 22:31, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> I also like Overcast’s voice boost feature. 
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure either Overcast or Downcast is more accessible than the other 
>>> but I much prefer the user interface of Overcast and it is very accessible.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Harry Bell
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 5:16 AM
>>> To: Abridged Recipients
>>> Subject: Most accessible podcast app?
>>> 
>>> Is Overcast or Downcast better for VO than the native Podcast app and which 
>>> of the two is preferred?
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
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Re: Most accessible podcast app?

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,

I use both Overcast and Downcast, but personally I have a slight preference for 
Downcast. I love the Overcast effects which have been discussed earlier in this 
thread, but with Downcast I really like being able to see the length of each 
episode before I start to play it. I am subscribed to far too many podcasts, 
some in each app, and I would love to know how to check the episode length in 
Overcast in order to make maximum use of time. I freely admit that my 
preference for Downcast may have a lot to do with familiarity. I like to be 
able to stream some podcast feeds and download others, and at the moment I 
can't remember whether this is possible in Overcast. Downcast has a lot of 
individual feed customisations, such as the number of episodes to keep, when to 
refresh the feed, etc. I think they're both great apps.

Best

Nicky


Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Oct 2018, at 22:31, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> I also like Overcast’s voice boost feature. 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> I'm not sure either Overcast or Downcast is more accessible than the other 
>> but I much prefer the user interface of Overcast and it is very accessible.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Harry Bell
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 5:16 AM
>> To: Abridged Recipients
>> Subject: Most accessible podcast app?
>> 
>> Is Overcast or Downcast better for VO than the native Podcast app and which 
>> of the two is preferred?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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Re: Continous Reading in Voice Dream

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

Obviously I don't have this problem when using the Play button, but I often use 
Voice Dream Reader with a Braille display for work-related tasks and I always 
have a few words repeated at the end of each screen of text. I can confirm that 
it's quite annoying and it slows me down significantly, but I agree that it 
would be even worse to have words missed out. I'll contact the developer to see 
whether there is a solution, as I should have done months ago, and I suggest 
that others do the same. We all have different use cases and what may seem a 
detail for some could be quite serious for others.

Best

Nicky


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> On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:43, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I also have a lot of recipe books in my Voice Dream library. I don’t see why 
> you would want to read with two fingers down flick, rather than play, if 
> you’re just reading through the recipe. But once you find one you actually 
> want to use, you can’t read with two fingers foot down anyway, because you 
> will want to be reading each line separately. Best thing for that is probably 
> a braille display, but if you don’t have one, you would just have to use 
> VoiceOver‘s ability to read by word. Or use one finger on the touchscreen to 
> read by line. Unfortunately the read by line command is absent in Voice 
> Dream, but I think that’s the fault of Apple, not the Voice Dream developers.
> I don’t see what the problem is here. Use the play button for continuous 
> reading, and other features of voiceover for reading smaller snippets of text.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Kimber Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's really not an answer. For example, much of my reading in voice
>> dream is recipes where continuous reading is not feasible. This is why
>> the repeating of words is less of a problem than skipped words.
>> 
>>> On 3/20/18, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> There is your answer.
>>> It is designed to use the play button.
>>> 
>>> I personally lock the phone when I am reading to avoid accidental
>>> interruptions because of touching the screen etc., plus it saves battery
>>> doing it that way.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
>>> quieter.”
>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Donna
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:27 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Continous Reading in Voice Dream
>>> 
>>> Richard, The problem of the repeating text occurs with the 2 finger swipe
>>> down. When using the play button every thing is read correctly.
>>> 
>>> Donnat
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 
 Are those of you experiencing this using the Voice Dream Play button to
 start reading, or are you using the two finger flick down?
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Continous Reading in Voice Dream
 
 Yes, I have noticed this behavior. In fact, it started I think after I
 noticed and reported that the last few words on every page were being
 skipped. After the next update, I started noticing the repetition of
 the last few words on every page. I figured it was better than missing
 words so never reported it.
 
 
> On 3/20/18, denise Avant  wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I noticed that when doing continuous reading in Voice Dream, using the
> voiceover voices, the last few words at the end of a page repeats again
> when
> switching to the next page. Has anyone had this problem? I am using the
> latest versions of Voice Dream, and IOS on my devices.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Reading words IOs 11.x

[Nicola Sanders]

Pablo, I think you may be confusing the iOS and Android navigation methods, 
which is easily done if you've had experience with both platforms. I'm fairly 
sure that iOS has not changed in this respect.

Best,

Nicky


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> On 3 Dec 2017, at 01:54, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> You are right. I thought that with the rotor we were able to switch the voice 
> over navigation  manner.
> I think that is the way how it was before.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> Pablo,
> When you have made your rotor selection of Word, flick down with one finger, 
> not to the right.
>  
> I think that will solve your issue.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> I am using an iPhone X. It is running IOs 11.2, and I am seeing the same 
> problem.
> Let me be a little bit more descriptive.
> I open the messages app
> I Place my finger on one of the messages received
> I want to read word by word on the list of messages, so I go to rotor, and I 
> select words
> When I flick to the right, instead reading word by word, voice over moves to 
> the following text message, and reads the hole line, sender, day, and last 
> tread in the chat
> Ok, then I open the message doing a double tab
> Then I place my finger in the last text message sent by this sender
> I switch the rotor to words, and when I flick to the right, voice over read 
> the following whole line. It is not reading word by word.
> Ok, let me try something different, I need to read a code that UBER sent me, 
> so I copy the hole line in the clipboard
> I go to the text field, and I paste the data stored in the clipboard
> I move the rotor to words
> When I flick to the right or to the left, voice over reads the following or 
> previous line, complete, no word by word.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> Where does this happen? Is it in a particular app? I have not experienced 
> this using my 6S Plus.
> Also, iOS 11.2 was just released today and while what you describe Is not a 
> known problem from what I have seen on the list, a lot of other bugs got 
> fixed in iOS 11.2 and anybody who has a previous version of iOS 11 should 
> definitely upgrade.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> Hi all,
> I have a friend who has an iPhone 8+. Also he is using IOs 11.x  last 
> release. He has shown me  that when he tries to switch the rotor to read word 
> by word. Voice over continue reading as default, line by line. I have tried 
> to switch the rotor, and I have seen the same problem in a different iPhone, 
> with running the first version of IOs 11. Has someone seen this issue trying 
> to read word by word.
> Thanks in advance,
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Re: Screen Locked

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

I think this just goes to show how we're all creatures of habit. I often have 
to work in a virtually silent environment and so I use my iPhone with a Braille 
display. I found it a hassle to remember to turn sounds on and off each time in 
addition to turning the speech off, and so I just stopped turning the sounds 
back on after a while. I've got very used to not having them and now I've 
basically forgotten what I'm supposed to need them for. I think Sieghard is 
right, Apple should provide more flexibility and allow people to choose whether 
they have a "screen locked" message or a sound, regardless of other settings. I 
like my "screen locked" message, mainly because it's what I'm used to.

Best

Nicky



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> On 8 Sep 2017, at 22:26, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> So have I, actually prefer it, but some seem to prefer to hear “Screen 
> Locked” so I guess it could be made optional.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen Locked
>  
> I have gotten used to the sounds as time went by
>  
> Maria Reyes 
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> 
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:20 PM -0400, "Sieghard Weitzel"  
> wrote:
> 
> Kind of a choice between a rock and a hard place, I certainly would not want 
> to have no sound effects at all  just to hear “screen locked”.
> It will be interesting to see if Apple gives users more control over this in 
> iOS 11, either take the “screen locked” message away completely and replace 
> it with a more unique sound or let people decide if they want to hear the 
> message but not at the expense of loosing all other sounds.
> In a way this is a trivial thing and I wonder who the heck at Apple has 
> nothing better to do than to come up with these things which of course also 
> take time to implement where they could spend that time fixing more important 
> issues.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen Locked
>  
> in order to not hear the beep, you would need to turn sounds off in settings. 
> I heard the screen locked notification verbally when sounds were turned off. 
> I hope this helps. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> On Sep 8, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> You would probably have to go back to iOS 9, which you cannot.
> I think that disappeared somewhere in iOS 10.
> Maybe someone knows different, but I am fine with the sound.
> Richard
>  
> 
> On Sep 8, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> I have an Iphone 6S with up to date software. Wondering what I need to change 
> in order to have voice over speak “screen Locked” instead of an audible beep.
>  
> Regards….Reg
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Re: is the tunein update safe?

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Davy,

I haven't had a chance to test every single feature in great detail, but as far 
as I can tell, the update is fine and everything is just as accessible as it 
was before, if not more so. I was a bit hsitant about updating as well, but I'm 
very happy with it.

Best

Nicky


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> On 14 Mar 2017, at 21:29, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
>  
> tunein has made an update in which they made a total makeover of the app.
> Mostly this can have dangerous effects in terms of accessibility. Are there 
> people that have tested the update?
> Regards
> Davy
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RE: Voice Dream Reader and Using Siri Voices?

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

 

Yes, I can confirm that my Siri voices are working fine in Voice Dream and, as 
Mary said, they are referred to by their names: The US male and female voices 
are Arron and Nicky (but I promise she isn’t me, I’m British); I think the UK 
Siri voices are named Arthur and Martha, and the Australian voices are Gordon 
and Catherine. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong. If I have 
downloaded the enhanced Siri voice, then both versions are available in Voice 
dream, i.e. Aaron and Aaron Enhanced, etc.

 

Best

 

Nicky, the Unenhanceable

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: 02 November 2016 18:06
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Voice Dream Reader and Using Siri Voices?

 

Hello List,

 

Let me say up front that I have all the voices I'm asking about downloaded to 
my iPhone 6 running iOS 10.1.1. I'm using the latest version of Voice Dream 
Reader and was perusing the available voices under the manage voices setting. 
Although I see all of the voices I've purchased and all the iOS voices I've 
downloaded in the available list, I don't see any Siri voices listed. Aren't we 
able to use the Siri voices with Voice Dream Reader? Does anyone else using 
Voice Dream see the Siri voices in their list of available ones?

 

The other thing I wish Voice Dream would do is save any sample text you type in 
to hear the voice speak a sample. I see that the voices I've purchased from 
Voice Dream all contain default sample text giving their name and a line about 
being one of the available voices. None of the iOS voices have any sample text 
to speak and if you type some in, it isn't saved to hear later. You have to 
input it each time.

 

I'm just wanting to confirm that others can't use the Siri voices with Voice 
Dream nor can they save any sample text they input.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Alan,

 

I have a glass screen protector on my iPhone 6S and I’m very happy with it. I’m 
afraid I don’t remember the brand, as it was part of my Christmas present from 
my brother. I know that it was a reputable brand which I had heard of, and in 
the medium price range.

 

I do use 3D Touch and it works fine for me. I didn’t do a “before and after” 
comparison, as I had only had the phone for a couple of days when the protector 
was applied and I hadn’t experimented with 3D Touch at that stage. I haven’t 
noticed any lack of screen sensitivity or responsiveness on my 6S compared to 
previous iPhones, on which I used film screen protectors. I have a light touch, 
so I think I would soon have become frustrated with an unresponsive screen.

 

HTH,

 

Nicky

 

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: 25 October 2016 21:13
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

 

Hello List,

 

I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've owned. I'm 
starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which I'm planning to get at 
the beginning of February and wanted to get opinions from those who have used 
glass screen protectors on their iPhones.

 

I've always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I needed with 
the care I take with my iPhone and have never been fully convinced that they 
don't interfere with the touch sensitivity of the iPhone. However, I don't want 
to make assumptions about such things and would prefer to get comments from 
those on the list who actually use a glass screen protector with their iDevice. 
I'm particularly interested in the opinions of those who have them with models 
6S and higher that have 3D Touch capability and if they have noticed any affect 
the glass screen protector has on 3D Touch efficacy.

 

I see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen protectors from $6 
up and one from Tech21 who makes the case I use which goes for about $35 for 
the iPhone 7. This is quite a range and I'm having a hard time reconciling the 
differences which account for such a range. I'd love to hear from anyone who 
has recommendations about a specific glass screen protector model and about 
what it costs.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments you can provide.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Question for voice dream reader users who lost your folders after upgrade

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

You're right, now that I think about it, the files that I uploaded did indeed 
end up in the folder which had focus in Voice Dream. Now that I understand how 
it works, I think this is a nice feature: even if you forget which folder last 
had focus when you upload new material, when you open Voice Dream again, it 
should be easy to find it in the open folder, select it and move it to the 
desired location. I look forward to playing with this again later today, when I 
get home from work.

Nicky



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> On 6 Apr 2016, at 04:19, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You are probably right, Richard. I seem to remember though, that if I really 
> closed voice dream, that is took it out of the app switcher, when I next 
> opened it, it would open into "all items", rather then the last open folder. 
> Maybe I'm wrong. In any case, it certainly is opening to whatever list was 
> last active now. So if you don't remember what your last active folder was, 
> and you are sending things to voice dream, say from a website or as was being 
> discussed before from a PC iCloud Drive, I guess you will go hunting for that 
> material until you find it in your folder system. The only difference seems 
> to me to be that when you're putting these folders from iCloud to voice 
> dream, it is not actually be open. You're just dumping things into the file 
> system. I will be curious to see what the original poster says had been his 
> previously used folder or list.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I assumed, and you know what happens when you assume, that the files would 
>> go into whatever the last folder opened in Voice Dream was.
>> Since, when you open Voice Dream again it defaults to the last folder opened.
>> 
>> Or, am I truly not understanding.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> Yes, you are right, except that in the case that was being discussed, stuff 
>>> was being put in from an external device, a computer using iCloud. So how 
>>> would you know which folder was open? If there is a way to know that, then 
>>> I would agree.
>>> Mary
>>> PS I certainly did use the feature just as you described it when 
>>> downloading books from with in the app.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, if you have a folder open, new files should go into that folder. 
>>>> That was by design in 3.7, and according to my brief test, is still the 
>>>> case in 4.
>>>> So, if I know I'm downloading a fiction book, I open the fiction folder 
>>>> first, then download the book. That way I don't have to move it later.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting about your uploads. By any chance, was the folder into which 
>>>>> those files were uploaded the one that had focus when you open voice 
>>>>> dream? I don't think that should matter. But what do I know?
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I went ahead and re-created my folders. It wasn't such a big risk 
>>>>>> for me, as almost all my items were showing up in the No Folder list and 
>>>>>> my library isn't very large. It seems to have worked fine, as far as I 
>>>>>> can tell. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today I uploaded some documents into my library using iCloud Drive on 
>>>>>> the PC. This worked well and was very convenient, but the new files 
>>>>>> showed up in one of the folders that I had created, whereas I would have 
>>>>>> expected them to be in the No Folder list. I will need to test this 
>>>>>> further before writ

Re: Question for voice dream reader users who lost your folders after upgrade

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Mary,

Yes, I went ahead and re-created my folders. It wasn't such a big risk for me, 
as almost all my items were showing up in the No Folder list and my library 
isn't very large. It seems to have worked fine, as far as I can tell. 

Today I uploaded some documents into my library using iCloud Drive on the PC. 
This worked well and was very convenient, but the new files showed up in one of 
the folders that I had created, whereas I would have expected them to be in the 
No Folder list. I will need to test this further before writing to Winston.

Best,

Nicky



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> On 6 Apr 2016, at 01:01, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Have any of you re-created your folder systems? I just wonder, because I'm 
> sort of afraid to do it, knowing that somehow somewhere, the system still 
> must think I have folders, since my "no folder" list is a far smaller than my 
> "all items" list it will be a royal pain in the you know what to re-create 
> this deal. But doing it twice will really be unacceptable. I'm already kind 
> of disgusted that we lost our book share authors in the upgrade. It seems 
> like that is something that Winston could have checked for before releasing 
> the product. But what's done is done I suppose.
> Mary
> 
> 
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RE: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Anna,

I have now created several folders and moved items into them on my phone, but 
the Library folder in iCloud Drive on my PC still looks the same, i.e. with 
each item in its own folder. I think this may be because the folders in VDR are 
actually more like tags attached to the files, rather than actual physical 
folders. At the moment I'm not brave enough to move anything in the library 
folder on the PC, as my library on my phone is well on the way to being sorted 
and I don't want to tempt providence! Many thanks for your help with this.

Best

Nicky


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: 02 April 2016 23:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

Hi Nicky,

My books are arranged just like yours, with a folder whose name is numbers 
containing the book and a metadata file. I have never used folders in Voice 
dream Reader. I thought that maybe putting some of those book folders into a 
folder in iCloud Drive might put them in analogous folders in Voice Dream 
Reader, but I don't know whether this would work.

Best,
Anna



> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks, Anna, the idea of selecting everything in All Items and moving it all 
> into No Folder makes a lot of sense to me. Mary, I'm sure you're right, I'm 
> afraid it's unlikely that you'll see any further changes to your No Folder if 
> it's already been that way for several hours.
> 
> A slight correction to my earlier post: I have been sorting out my own 
> library and I have noticed that there were in fact three items which were 
> still not showing up in No Folder, so my statement that everything was there 
> was not quite accurate - my apologies! I was able to track the missing items 
> by filtering by My Sources.
> 
> Also, I can confirm that I can't change the sort order in No Folder, which is 
> stuck on New Date. I wonder if people who did not lose their folder structure 
> are able to change the sort order in No Folder?
> 
> I have looked at the Reader/Library folder in iCloud Drive on my PC. There 
> seems to be a folder for each item, containing a metadata file as well as the 
> actual file constituting the item. The folder names consist of strings of 
> numbers, so you don't know what the item is until you open its folder, which 
> I think would make editing rather tricky. Perhaps it works differently on the 
> Mac.
> 
> Nicky
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: 02 April 2016 22:46
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Would it make sense to move everything into No Folder, and then work from 
> there? then at least the number of items would decrease.
> 
> I also wonder whether the folders coincide with folders in your iCloud drive. 
> If you have a Mac, it might be easier to use it to move the books into 
> folders than to do it on the phone.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I remember that as well. You were only supposed to have it open and one 
>> device with iCloud sink happening. That was the case for me. My other device 
>> wasn't even turned on at the time. I just went and checked my no folder 
>> items again, and the number of those is still the same. It hasn't changed 
>> since last night. So, I would think that nothing is happening.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> No, I didn't leave Voice Dream in the foreground or keep my screen 
>>> unlocked. In the What's New file I noticed a reference to the app being in 
>>> the foreground during the sync process, but I understood it to mean that if 
>>> VDR WAS in the foreground, it should only be on one device, in order to 
>>> avoid conflicts.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Nicky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 18:50
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
>>> 
>>> Hi Nicky,
>>> Thanks for the idea about waiting on the no folder filter. I guess it can't 
>&

RE: Tweetings -- How to Stop Videos

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Eric,

I've had a look in the Tweetings settings. Under Look and Feel, if you go down 
to the Media heading, you should find a few settings relating to videos. The 
first of these is Autoplay Videos, which can be toggled on or off.

HTH,

Nicky


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
SSEric
Sent: 03 April 2016 00:55
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tweetings -- How to Stop Videos

Occasionally, I get a tweet with an imbedded video with sound. I cannot
figure how to shut them up. Better,, how could I stop them from playing
altogether. I have looked at everything in settings I can think could make a
difference and have found nothing.

It seems to me they only quit when there are enough new tweets to move the
offending one off screen.

Thanks for help.

Eric


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RE: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

[Nicola Sanders]

Yes, I can change the sort order in the All Items list, and in the new folders 
that I have now created, but I can't change it in the No Folder list.

Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: 02 April 2016 23:53
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

Can you change the sort order and you're all items list? I cannot. And for 
those who did not lose their folder structure, can you change the sort order in 
you're all items list?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks, Anna, the idea of selecting everything in All Items and moving it all 
> into No Folder makes a lot of sense to me. Mary, I'm sure you're right, I'm 
> afraid it's unlikely that you'll see any further changes to your No Folder if 
> it's already been that way for several hours.
> 
> A slight correction to my earlier post: I have been sorting out my own 
> library and I have noticed that there were in fact three items which were 
> still not showing up in No Folder, so my statement that everything was there 
> was not quite accurate - my apologies! I was able to track the missing items 
> by filtering by My Sources.
> 
> Also, I can confirm that I can't change the sort order in No Folder, which is 
> stuck on New Date. I wonder if people who did not lose their folder structure 
> are able to change the sort order in No Folder?
> 
> I have looked at the Reader/Library folder in iCloud Drive on my PC. There 
> seems to be a folder for each item, containing a metadata file as well as the 
> actual file constituting the item. The folder names consist of strings of 
> numbers, so you don't know what the item is until you open its folder, which 
> I think would make editing rather tricky. Perhaps it works differently on the 
> Mac.
> 
> Nicky
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: 02 April 2016 22:46
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Would it make sense to move everything into No Folder, and then work from 
> there? then at least the number of items would decrease.
> 
> I also wonder whether the folders coincide with folders in your iCloud drive. 
> If you have a Mac, it might be easier to use it to move the books into 
> folders than to do it on the phone.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I remember that as well. You were only supposed to have it open and one 
>> device with iCloud sink happening. That was the case for me. My other device 
>> wasn't even turned on at the time. I just went and checked my no folder 
>> items again, and the number of those is still the same. It hasn't changed 
>> since last night. So, I would think that nothing is happening.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> No, I didn't leave Voice Dream in the foreground or keep my screen 
>>> unlocked. In the What's New file I noticed a reference to the app being in 
>>> the foreground during the sync process, but I understood it to mean that if 
>>> VDR WAS in the foreground, it should only be on one device, in order to 
>>> avoid conflicts.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Nicky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 18:50
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
>>> 
>>> Hi Nicky,
>>> Thanks for the idea about waiting on the no folder filter. I guess it can't 
>>> hurt. Did you leave the voice dream app in the foreground with the screen 
>>> unlocked? I had locked my screen and not left the app in the foreground. I 
>>> don't remember seeing anything in the what's new about having to do any of 
>>> those things once the sink process started.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>

RE: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

Thanks, Anna, the idea of selecting everything in All Items and moving it all 
into No Folder makes a lot of sense to me. Mary, I'm sure you're right, I'm 
afraid it's unlikely that you'll see any further changes to your No Folder if 
it's already been that way for several hours.

A slight correction to my earlier post: I have been sorting out my own library 
and I have noticed that there were in fact three items which were still not 
showing up in No Folder, so my statement that everything was there was not 
quite accurate - my apologies! I was able to track the missing items by 
filtering by My Sources.

Also, I can confirm that I can't change the sort order in No Folder, which is 
stuck on New Date. I wonder if people who did not lose their folder structure 
are able to change the sort order in No Folder?

I have looked at the Reader/Library folder in iCloud Drive on my PC. There 
seems to be a folder for each item, containing a metadata file as well as the 
actual file constituting the item. The folder names consist of strings of 
numbers, so you don't know what the item is until you open its folder, which I 
think would make editing rather tricky. Perhaps it works differently on the Mac.

Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: 02 April 2016 22:46
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

Hi,

Would it make sense to move everything into No Folder, and then work from 
there? then at least the number of items would decrease.

I also wonder whether the folders coincide with folders in your iCloud drive. 
If you have a Mac, it might be easier to use it to move the books into folders 
than to do it on the phone.

Best,
Anna



> On Apr 2, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I remember that as well. You were only supposed to have it open and one 
> device with iCloud sink happening. That was the case for me. My other device 
> wasn't even turned on at the time. I just went and checked my no folder items 
> again, and the number of those is still the same. It hasn't changed since 
> last night. So, I would think that nothing is happening.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> No, I didn't leave Voice Dream in the foreground or keep my screen unlocked. 
>> In the What's New file I noticed a reference to the app being in the 
>> foreground during the sync process, but I understood it to mean that if VDR 
>> WAS in the foreground, it should only be on one device, in order to avoid 
>> conflicts.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Nicky
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: 02 April 2016 18:50
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
>> 
>> Hi Nicky,
>> Thanks for the idea about waiting on the no folder filter. I guess it can't 
>> hurt. Did you leave the voice dream app in the foreground with the screen 
>> unlocked? I had locked my screen and not left the app in the foreground. I 
>> don't remember seeing anything in the what's new about having to do any of 
>> those things once the sink process started.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I haven't posted to this list in a very long time and so I lost my posting 
>>> privileges, but Mark has kindly sorted things out for me.
>>> 
>>> Mary, you have my sympathies too. I also lost my folder structure, but I'm 
>>> fortunate in that my library is much smaller than yours. I've made a start 
>>> on recreating my folders, and in my case it's turning out to be easier than 
>>> I expected: After the iCloud sync, at first not all my items were showing 
>>> up in the No Folder filter, but when I came back to it later, they were all 
>>> listed there. This meant that I could use the No Folder filter as my 
>>> starting point, and the list got shorter each time I selected a group of 
>>> items and moved them into a new folder. I believe you said that only a few 
>>> items showed up in your No Folder list, but it might be worth checking it 
>>> again, just in case it has rectified itself, as mine did.
>>> 
>>> Incidentally, I share your delight at getting your Ivona voices back, as I 
>>&g

RE: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Mary,

No, I didn't leave Voice Dream in the foreground or keep my screen unlocked. In 
the What's New file I noticed a reference to the app being in the foreground 
during the sync process, but I understood it to mean that if VDR WAS in the 
foreground, it should only be on one device, in order to avoid conflicts.

Best,

Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: 02 April 2016 18:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

Hi Nicky,
Thanks for the idea about waiting on the no folder filter. I guess it can't 
hurt. Did you leave the voice dream app in the foreground with the screen 
unlocked? I had locked my screen and not left the app in the foreground. I 
don't remember seeing anything in the what's new about having to do any of 
those things once the sink process started.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I haven't posted to this list in a very long time and so I lost my posting 
> privileges, but Mark has kindly sorted things out for me.
> 
> Mary, you have my sympathies too. I also lost my folder structure, but I'm 
> fortunate in that my library is much smaller than yours. I've made a start on 
> recreating my folders, and in my case it's turning out to be easier than I 
> expected: After the iCloud sync, at first not all my items were showing up in 
> the No Folder filter, but when I came back to it later, they were all listed 
> there. This meant that I could use the No Folder filter as my starting point, 
> and the list got shorter each time I selected a group of items and moved them 
> into a new folder. I believe you said that only a few items showed up in your 
> No Folder list, but it might be worth checking it again, just in case it has 
> rectified itself, as mine did.
> 
> Incidentally, I share your delight at getting your Ivona voices back, as I 
> also lost my Ivona voices when I installed a full backup from my iPhone 5s 
> onto my new 6S. I was finally able to sort it out a few weeks before the 
> update, but I had to back up the library and reinstall the app from scratch.
> 
> Good luck with the folders,
> 
> Nicky
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: 02 April 2016 17:29
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
> 
> Thanks, richard, for the sympathy. Now I wonder if it is worth my time to 
> re-create my folder structure until Winston has definitely found and fixed 
> the bug. If you want to talk about cursing, if I redo this whole structure, 
> and then lose it again when I sync up to iCloud, you are going to be able to 
> hear me all the way up in Portland from here in Eugene when the cursing 
> starts. The worst thing about this deal, aside from the loss itself, is that 
> in order to re-create the folders, I'm going to have to go through each and 
> every item in all items each time I want to move things into a folder. That 
> is because when you move things into folders, they stay in all items, just 
> like what happens with Amazon Kindle. I love how iBooks does it. Move that 
> sucker out of books, and it's  really moved. So the next time you go through 
> your big fat books list in order to move things into another folder, you do 
> not have to see the  items you just moved previously.  I actually do see the 
> merit of an all items folder. I just wish there were something equivalent to 
> the iBooks "books" folder. After all, this is just a matter of index 
> pointers. It's not like they are actually having several copies of each item.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Mary,
>> I think you showed great restraint in only using one, minor, expletive, in 
>> your statement. I would be cussing up a blue streak, not on the list of 
>> course.
>> I cannot imagine the amount of work you lost with that many items.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod 6
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I also got a reply from Winston, stating that the structure is lost and 
>>> cannot be brought back, but he is looking into the problem for a future 
>>> update. Damn!
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote

RE: Voice Dream and iTunes

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

Just to add to Richard's information below: I had to deal with this a few weeks 
ago when I needed to back up my VDR library. I had to do an awful lot of 
tabbing in order to get past all my apps and to find the file sharing options. 
I found the process rather inaccessible and I kept receiving an error message 
from iTunes when I tried to copy the library, having finally managed to locate 
it.

Winston recommended that I use a program called iExplorer, rather than iTunes. 
It's available on both Mac and Windows and it allows you to navigate your 
devices and iTunes backups with an interface which is a bit like Windows 
Explorer, and certainly a lot easier than iTunes for this purpose. I'm pretty 
sure it was free, and it should allow you to paste content into the Documents 
folder in Voice Dream on your device. Obviously your device has to be connected 
to the computer, with iTunes running.

HTH,

Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 02 April 2016 17:58
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream and iTunes


>From the Voice Dream User Guide:
Loading using iTunes from a PC or Mac

>From the iTunes application after you connect your device via USB, you can 
>select "Apps". Scroll down to "File Sharing" section and you'll find Voice 
>Dream Reader in the list of Apps. Select it, and click on "Add.." button to 
>the right to select the files to move to your device. These files will be move 
>to your library automatically.

Sent from my iPod 6

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 6:53 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> How do you access the document folder using itunes on a pc?  This was not 
> discussed in the what's new section.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 12:57 PM
> To: ViPone list
> Subject: Voice Dream and iTunes
> 
> 
> Someone asked about iTunes sharing with Voice Dream 4. This is in the What's 
> new document.
> The iTunes option has been removed. Now the app automatically loads all files 
> you drop in Voice Dream Reader's document folder from iTunes on a PC or Mac.
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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RE: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,

I haven't posted to this list in a very long time and so I lost my posting 
privileges, but Mark has kindly sorted things out for me.

Mary, you have my sympathies too. I also lost my folder structure, but I'm 
fortunate in that my library is much smaller than yours. I've made a start on 
recreating my folders, and in my case it's turning out to be easier than I 
expected: After the iCloud sync, at first not all my items were showing up in 
the No Folder filter, but when I came back to it later, they were all listed 
there. This meant that I could use the No Folder filter as my starting point, 
and the list got shorter each time I selected a group of items and moved them 
into a new folder. I believe you said that only a few items showed up in your 
No Folder list, but it might be worth checking it again, just in case it has 
rectified itself, as mine did.

Incidentally, I share your delight at getting your Ivona voices back, as I also 
lost my Ivona voices when I installed a full backup from my iPhone 5s onto my 
new 6S. I was finally able to sort it out a few weeks before the update, but I 
had to back up the library and reinstall the app from scratch.

Good luck with the folders,

Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: 02 April 2016 17:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

Thanks, richard, for the sympathy. Now I wonder if it is worth my time to 
re-create my folder structure until Winston has definitely found and fixed the 
bug. If you want to talk about cursing, if I redo this whole structure, and 
then lose it again when I sync up to iCloud, you are going to be able to hear 
me all the way up in Portland from here in Eugene when the cursing starts. The 
worst thing about this deal, aside from the loss itself, is that in order to 
re-create the folders, I'm going to have to go through each and every item in 
all items each time I want to move things into a folder. That is because when 
you move things into folders, they stay in all items, just like what happens 
with Amazon Kindle. I love how iBooks does it. Move that sucker out of books, 
and it's  really moved. So the next time you go through your big fat books list 
in order to move things into another folder, you do not have to see the  items 
you just moved previously.  I actually do see the merit of an all items folder. 
I just wish there were something equivalent to the iBooks "books" folder. After 
all, this is just a matter of index pointers. It's not like they are actually 
having several copies of each item.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mary,
> I think you showed great restraint in only using one, minor, expletive, in 
> your statement. I would be cussing up a blue streak, not on the list of 
> course.
> I cannot imagine the amount of work you lost with that many items.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I also got a reply from Winston, stating that the structure is lost and 
>> cannot be brought back, but he is looking into the problem for a future 
>> update. Damn!
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Winston has replied to say he is looking into the problem...
>>> 
 On 2 Apr 2016, at 13:55, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Just to make it clear, this problem happened after I did the iCloud sink. 
 When I updated to version four, all of my folders were there, just as they 
 should be. It's after I did  the iCloud sink that the structure went away.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have not had that happen.
> I had folders in a particular order on my Touch and when I updated my 
> iPhone to version 4, the folders showed up there in the same order.
> Of course, I have about 1/10th of the material you have. So I don't know 
> if it is a space issue?
> How much memory do you have in iCloud?
> This sounds like a good question to send to Winston. You might want to 
> use the contact through settings in Voice Dream.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I just did the iCloud sink for my large iPad library in voice dream 
>> reader. Before doing the sink, I had checked to make sure that the 
>> updating of my library had gone without a hitch, including keeping the 
>> folder structure as it had previously been organized.
>> Things look just the way they should have. On concluding the iCloud sink 
>> however, while 

Just testing, please ignore

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RE: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

Have people tried ending a call by pressing the power/lock button twice in 
quick succession?  This works reliably for me in iOS7, but I haven't upgraded 
to iOS8 yet, for reasons which are irrelevant for this topic, so I have no idea 
whether it still works.  Perhaps it's worth a try.

Nicky


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Jim Barbour
Sent: 17 December 2014 16:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

Both the 2 finger double tap and the sleep switch work well for me.

As was already said, take the phone away from your ear, wait for the speaker to 
turn on, and then do the 2 finger double tap.  The 2 finger double tap can take 
a bit of practice.  Your fingers should be spread a bit apart when you do the 
double tap.

The sleep switch is the exact opposite, it won't hang up a call unless 
voiceover is on and the phone is at your ear.

The hangup button used to stretch across the whole bottom of the screen.  Now 
it's just a button in the middle of the screen.  If you place your finger at 
the bottom of the screen in the middle and draw a line up, you should also find 
the button.

I hope this helps,

Jim

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 02:31:04PM -, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Yes, perhaps I do the gestures before moving the phone from my ear;  but I 
 like to ensure the call is cut off as soon as possible and that just doesn't 
 work smoothly for me.
 
 Carol P
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Alex Hall 
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:47 PM
   Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS
 
 
   I use that all the time. You take the phone away from your ear, give it a 
 second so the screen can come back on (it is off so your cheek doesn't press 
 buttons), then double tap two fingers anywhere on the screen. If you do it 
 too quickly after lowering the phone, the screen won't yet be on and you 
 might think the gesture isn't working. Remember that, when you lower the 
 phone, it will switch to speakerphone mode automatically. I normally put my 
 right thumb over the speaker as I do this to muffle any sounds from the other 
 caller, especially if I'm hanging up on a voicemail prompt or similarly loud 
 noise.
 
 On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Colin Matthews 
 velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi!
 So do you have a problem with the 2 finger double tap to end calls 
 because that can be done anywhere on the screen!
 Colin
 
 
 On 17 Dec 2014, at 13:26, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 
   Hi all,
 
   I think it's time I said clearly thatI'm really still not happy about 
 the iPhone's method(s)of ending phone calls.  I suppose this may have got 
 worse for me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button 
 I'm trying to locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch 
 doesn't always work.
 
   At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of 
 the phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  
 but I really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not 
 connected to a headset.
 
   Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any 
 workable solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe 
 this isn't a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me 
 and I quite often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.
 
   Thanks for any useful commentsI could consider before writing to Apple.
 
   Carol P
 
 
 
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RE: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Alan,

 

No problem at all, glad to help!  Just to clarify: The TV Shows tab within
the iTunes app is where you go if you want to search for and purchase shows
on the iPhone itself, rather than on the PC.  They end up in the Videos app
once they're downloaded, just as your music purchases end up in the Music
app.  Personally I find it even easier to make purchases on the phone than
on the PC - in fact, it's so easy that it can be dangerous!  Ask my credit
card if you don't believe me J

 

Enjoy,

 

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: 02 October 2013 03:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

 

Nicky, you're exactly right that purchased TV shows are under videos. I
would have thought that videos one recorded would be there and TV shows
would be under iTunes, TV Shows. But then I couldn't even remember that my
bluetooth devices had to be re-paired with my replacement phone. That's why
I'm on these lists. Thanks so much for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nicola Sanders
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

 

Hi Alan,

 

Try looking in the Videos app on your iPhone.  I'm pretty sure that's where
my purchased TV shows end up.

 

HTH,

 

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: 01 October 2013 06:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

 

I hate to be thick but I don't find it very intuitive to play a TV show I
just purchased from the iTunes Store and transferred to my iPhone 5 using
the iTunes sync. I figured to play this show I should launch the iTunes app
and then select the TV Shows tab at the bottom of the screen. But then I'm
presented with every TV show known to man and nothing that offers a
selection like shows on this device. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

 

Thanks.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: AppStore badge shwoing 2 Updates available but all apps listed in Updates are already downloaded

[Nicola Sanders]

Same here, except that my badge shows three new items, even though all apps
seem to be up to date.  Earlier today, when I really did have two apps to
update, the app store badge showed five new items.  I'm using a jailbroken
4s, still on iOS 6.1.2.  I've been having this little problem for the past
couple of days and I thought it might have something to do with the
jailbreak, but I don't really see why it would, as I jailbroke a few weeks
ago and my phone has been very stable.  Strange indeed!

 

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donna
Sent: 02 October 2013 22:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AppStore badge shwoing 2 Updates available but all apps listed
in Updates are already downloaded

 

I'm having a similar issue, I'm showing that there 2 apps that need to be
updated, but only is showing up as needing to be updated. Automatic update
is off and I'm still using IOS 6.14 on an iPhone 5. 

Donna


On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

Hi,

 

My AppStore icon reads 2 app updates available, but in AppStore Updates tab,
all apps listed are current, stating Open.

 

Automatic app downloads is turned off; I double checked. I flicked through
all listed apps in the Updates tab, and all apps appear as Open, not just
the most recent few.

 

iPhone 5 with latest iOS.

 

Anyone else had this experience, or a possible explanation?

 

Thanks. Keith 

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RE: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Alan,

 

Try looking in the Videos app on your iPhone.  I'm pretty sure that's where
my purchased TV shows end up.

 

HTH,

 

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: 01 October 2013 06:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

 

I hate to be thick but I don't find it very intuitive to play a TV show I
just purchased from the iTunes Store and transferred to my iPhone 5 using
the iTunes sync. I figured to play this show I should launch the iTunes app
and then select the TV Shows tab at the bottom of the screen. But then I'm
presented with every TV show known to man and nothing that offers a
selection like shows on this device. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

 

Thanks.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Prizmo 2 is out.

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi there, you lucky people who already have Prizmo 2,

Would one of you be willing to give me a sneak preview by telling me which
additional OCR languages the app now supports?  No problem if you can't,
I'll just have to be patient, like everyone else smile.

Thanks,

Nicky


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Prizmo 2 is out.

Annie your not a lone. I am in the uk and I got it to. It is really good And
much easier and quicker to use. They obviously made a mistake and didn't
mean to put it up yet.

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RE: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi, Aman,

Thank you very much for the excellent information that you have provided so
far.  I understand that there are bound to have been changes since you wrote
your original instructions, but they have certainly given me a clear idea of
how to go about the process.  I may not have time to do any serious work on
this for a few days, but I've saved your information and I'll get to it
ASAP.  I think it has great potential and I also plan to reassign some of
the BrailleNote Apex thumb keys - it appears that this should be perfectly
feasible according to your instructions.

Meanwhile, if you do have a chance to provide any updates or, for example,
further information on the Find command, it would be extremely useful.

Thanks again for all your help and hard work,

Nicky

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Aman Singer
Sent: 20 April 2013 15:22
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display

Sorry, Nicola, I forgot to deal with your request about the find command.
I'm afraid I don't have any experience with find. I do know, however, that
you can assign braille keys to keyboard functions. I will look in to the
find command later, as it will be useful to have that.
Aman

On 2013-04-19, at 5:20 AM, Nicola Sanders nicola.sand...@telenet.be
wrote:

 Hi, Aman,
 
 I for one would certainly appreciate some instructions, if you have time
to
 write them up.
 
 Just one question:  Would this method also enable me to assign a key
 combination to the Find command, emulating the Bluetooth keyboard
 functionality, or does it only work with commands that can be executed on
 the touchscreen?
 
 I think I may still be on moderation as a new member, so apologies if my
 message doesn't happen to reach the list in a timely manner;  but I
couldn't
 resist chiming in, as using a Braille display is important to me for
 professional reasons.  I have a BrailleNote Apex, in case it's relevant.
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Nicky
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Aman Singer
 Sent: 18 April 2013 22:19
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display
 
 Hi, Scott.
 I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can
 do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make
 a braill display button perform a function, changing its original
 function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of
 the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back
 button before, but there is already a back command, so this was
 redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are
 redundant on many displays.
 Aman
 
 On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your
 device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get
 jailbreaking. LOL.
 
 Scott
 
 On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, Sarah.
 The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the
 files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know
 and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but
 cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point,
 there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not
 quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases.
 Aman
 
 On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the
 double
 tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent
 keystroke
 for Braille displays?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sarah
 
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RE: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi, Aman,

I for one would certainly appreciate some instructions, if you have time to
write them up.

Just one question:  Would this method also enable me to assign a key
combination to the Find command, emulating the Bluetooth keyboard
functionality, or does it only work with commands that can be executed on
the touchscreen?

I think I may still be on moderation as a new member, so apologies if my
message doesn't happen to reach the list in a timely manner;  but I couldn't
resist chiming in, as using a Braille display is important to me for
professional reasons.  I have a BrailleNote Apex, in case it's relevant.

Many thanks,

Nicky


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: 18 April 2013 22:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Double Tap and Hold Using a Braille Display

Hi, Scott.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by write up code, but what you can
do is modify commands for each key. That is, you can, as I said, make
a braill display button perform a function, changing its original
function to the one you want. I am using the button on the front of
the refreshabraille to do the double tap and hold, it was a back
button before, but there is already a back command, so this was
redundant. Note that there are quite a few commands which are
redundant on many displays.
Aman

On 4/18/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can write up code for commands with braille displays once your
 device is jailbroken? If that is true, then I need to get
 jailbreaking. LOL.

 Scott

 On 4/18/13, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, Sarah.
 The functionality is not available unless you jailbreak and edit the
 files yourself. If you want instructions on doing that, let me know
 and I'll try to write up a set over the weekend. I suspect, but
 cannot, of course, be sure, that Apple will get to this at some point,
 there is no problem in doing it on most displays at least, I'm not
 quite sure why Apple has chosen not to do it in the current releases.
 Aman

 On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote:
 Hi all,

 On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the
 double
 tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent
 keystroke
 for Braille displays?

 Thanks,

 Sarah

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Voice Dream Reader and Braille display: basic instructions

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

I have been in touch with Winston, the developer of the excellent Voice
Dream Reader app, as I was having difficulty reading through the contents of
a file in Braille.  I then got my act together and worked out how to do it,
and Winston suggested that I write up the steps that I use, for the benefit
of other users who have also been having problems.  I have now checked the
list archives and I realize that people are able to read Voice Dream files
in Braille with no problems, so there's nothing revolutionary about my
instructions.  But I've decided to post them anyway, in case anyone finds
them helpful or has corrections.  Here are the steps:

I am using a BrailleNote Apex BT32 and an iPhone 4S, but I hope these basic
instructions will be general enough to work with any Braille display and iOS
device.

1.  With a file open in Voice Dream, locate the first element on the screen
by pressing Space with dots 1-2-3 on the Braille keyboard.

2.  Move through the various elements using Space with dot 4 or an
equivalent command that may be available if your Braille display has
navigation keys, until you reach the words 'Next item'.

3.  You can now start reading the contents of the file by panning the
Braille display to the right in the usual way, i.e. pressing Space with dot
5 or using an equivalent command, if available on your display.  Continue to
pan the display to the right until you reach the end of the block of text
that is currently visible.  You will know that you have reached the end when
the focus lands on the 'Bookmarks' button.

4.  Now pan the Braille display once to the left, using Space with dot 2 or
an equivalent navigation command.  This will move the focus back into the
text area, at the beginning of the page you have just read,  and the Braille
display will be blank.  This step is important, otherwise the Scroll command
in the next step will not work.

5.  To scroll to the next page of text, press Space with dots 1-4-5-6.  This
is the 'Scroll down one page' command and it is the equivalent of a
'Three-finger swipe up' using VoiceOver on the touchscreen.  To scroll up to
the previous page, press Space with dots 3-4-5-6, which is the equivalent of
a 'three-finger swipe down'.

6.  Once the Scroll command has been executed, the Braille display briefly
shows the percentage of progress through the file, and then it goes blank.
The focus is placed at the beginning of the next page of text and you can
read it by panning repeatedly to the right in the usual way, until you reach
the 'Bookmarks' button again.  Repeat these steps to continue reading
through the file.

NOTE:  You will notice that the text overlaps slightly from one page to the
next, so the last few words of the previous page are repeated at the
beginning of the next page.

Happy reading,

Nicky


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RE: Suggestions for StandScan Pro maintenance and usage.

[Nicola Sanders]

Hello Sandy,

This is an excellent set of scanning tips.  I agree 100% with your
suggestion of an Append to clipboard feature, as I often need to scan
multi-page documents and then be able to navigate through the text.  Having
to copy and paste the individual pages into a file is a real pain!  It may
be due to a lack of familiarity with the apps, but I find that TextGrabber
is slightly more efficient with multi-page documents, as I can get all the
pages scanned in first, without too many steps, and I can then easily access
the individual pages from within the History.

Thanks again for all your helpful StandScan posts,

Nicky


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandratomkins
Sent: 30 March 2013 11:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Suggestions for StandScan Pro maintenance and usage.

Hallo,

I thought to make a few observations re maintenance and usage of the SSP
to those of us who have invested in it. i have had mine for a few weeks now
and have noticed the following:

1. Although we get, by far, our best results when using 12 volts, either
with the battery back-up or the mains power, the lights do get warm, even,
hot, if you leave them on when not in use. So, I always unplug mine after
use. This should, not only, add to the life span on the lights, but might be
a sensible safety precaution.

2. Because I am left-handed, I sit my phone on the back left-hand corner,
whereas, I guess, most of you sit yours on the nearer right-hand corner?
Now, this means that my phone is sitting above the lights and, as mentioned
before, this part of the box could get hot if the lights are left on
unnecessarily, plus, I might affect my phone adversely if I leave it sitting
there for too long. So, I think the right-handed ones of us may have an
advantage there, but, this notwithstanding, I would like to suggest that
when you progress from single sheet scanning that, for best results, you
don't scan double pages as this is only reliable toward the centre of the
book, but rather, take one page at a time, holding the side of the book, not
being scanned, vertical, at the front of the box. You can risk putting a
fingertip on the margin of the flat page to ensure that it stays flat, but,
beware, don't cover the text, so only just on the edge. Then, when you want
to scan the other page, how about turning the book round, doing the same?
Now here is my point: both Prizmo and Text Grabber will cope with
upside-down text, but both do better when it is up the right way, so, if you
feel suitably proficient, how about swapping the phone around to the
left-hand position, like me, and take the second shot? Possibly, i have
confused everyone now! Sorry if this is the case, and, really, i am talking
of more advanced use of the SSP and your OCR of choice, so, perhaps, this
suggestion is for those with time on their hands and no love life!!!

3. Protable it is! But durable it isn't! I would suggest that people keep
their SSP in a jiffy envelope when transporting it in a bag/case, not only
because it won't help the scanning if it gets too bent, but also to protect
the connection of the little cable to the lights. Mine has become a little
worn and I have, sometimes, to jiggle the connection to ensure that the
lights come on! So, avoid this if you can.

4. Now, this is a suggestion which, I think, would be very useful in other
apps and applications: Also, useful to our sighted counterparts, to wit: an
extre option in IOS to append to clipboard. At a single stroke, we could
scan multipage documents and then paste them in our favourite text editor,
in my case, the built-in notes app. So, do people agree that it would be
worth lobbying for this? As I say, it would be most useful to all
iPhone/iPad/Touch users, we would only need for it to be VO friendly.

5. Last of all, if you like to leave your standscan Pro set up, don't
leave it sitting on your speakers or other source of electrical field, or
you may find your magnets won't work so well for you!

Finally, (I mean it this time) when the website calims that it is the
work of a few seconds to assemble the box, they are right! They are right in
saying once you have the way of it. Obviously, for us, reaching that point
will take a little longer, but two things happen with practice: 1. You learn
to start with the thing the right way round, either by positioning the flat
pack with the cable sticking out of the top right far corner, or, you stick
a tactile, even a sticky braille lable to assist. It wouldn't hurt the box
to stick a braille or barcode for those who don't read braille, on each of
the flaps to keep you on course.
2. The more often you use the box, the more it naturally folds itself,
especially those little strenthening triangles, so practise won't only help
you, it will also help the box with its muscle memory!

Happy scanning, Sandy. 

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RE: Intro, and changing language recognition settings in Prizmo?

[Nicola Sanders]

Hello Anne,

Thanks very much, that worked like a charm.  It's a good idea to have the
apps set to different languages.  I find that TextGrabber is a bit more
flexible in this area, as it supports many more languages than Prizmo and
you can have up to three languages active at once.  I presume that having
more than one language set is bound to detract slightly from the OCR
accuracy, but I do find it very useful, as I often need to scan documehnts
which are basically written in Czech, but which contain an occasional quote
in English or French.

Cheers,

Nicky


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 30 March 2013 10:28
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Intro, and changing language recognition settings in Prizmo?

Hello Nicky,

As far as I can tell, you have to have taken a picture and decided to use it
before you can get to the screen where you change the language. Before that,
OCR is dimmed.

The OCR button is at the bottom right of the screen, and when you double-tap
it, you'll get the screen where you change the language.

I use both Prizmo and TextGrabber. So I've set one to English and the other
to French to avoid having to mess with the language.

Cheers,

Anne


On 29 Mar 2013, at 22:15, Nicola Sanders nicola.sand...@telenet.be wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 This is my first message to the list.  I have an iPhone 4S and an iPod
Touch
 4g, and I often use them in conjunction with a BrailleNote Apex.  I'm a
 reasonably experienced iOS user, so my apologies for this rather basic
 question:  Could someone please tell me where I can change the OCR
language
 recognition settings in Prizmo?  I used to be able to do this, but I'm
 obviously having a serious senior moment, so any help would be
appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Nicky
 
 
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Intro, and changing language recognition settings in Prizmo?

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,

This is my first message to the list.  I have an iPhone 4S and an iPod Touch
4g, and I often use them in conjunction with a BrailleNote Apex.  I'm a
reasonably experienced iOS user, so my apologies for this rather basic
question:  Could someone please tell me where I can change the OCR language
recognition settings in Prizmo?  I used to be able to do this, but I'm
obviously having a serious senior moment, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Nicky


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RE: about standscan

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

 

I recently received my StandScan pro and I agree with Andy, it's certainly
very light and portable.  I have been in desperate need of something like
this for ages, as at work I am often presented with documents that I need to
access at very short notice.  I have been practising unfolding it and
folding it back up, and I'm certainly a lot quicker than I was at first,
though I can't yet claim that the process is slick, neat and unobtrusive!

 

What worries me slightly is the fact that the StandScan Pro is quite thin
and flimsy, and although I plan to take great care of it, I don't know how
well it will withstand the rigours of life in my work bag - I suppose only
time will tell!

 

Could I just take this opportunity to thank the list members for their
helpful and informative posts about the StandScan.  I sifted through the
archives before joining the list and the knowledge that I acquired made it
much easier for me to get up and running with the StandScan when it arrived.
I used it at work for the first time on Wednesday and I was delighted with
the results.  I agree that Prizmo and TextGrabber have their own strengths.

 

Best,

 

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: 29 March 2013 19:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: about standscan

 

It weighs almost nothing, and folds down to easily fit into a briefcase or
messenger bag. For me, the issue is what is involved in setting it up, and
at least now, I don't think I could do it in a hurry.

 

Andy

 

From: Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com  

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:55 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: about standscan

Hi all.

Well, this question if for the people who received the standscan.

This thing is portable? I mean, it is something that we can take to our
school, or to our work, or to a presentation, and use it. Or it i something
that will need to be install at home, on a table, and will looks like a
weird device?

Thanks

P

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