Re: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

[Robert Doc Wright]

Someone makes a lanyard that has cups that the stem of the air pods fit 
into. In this way if they fall they don't go far.
  - Original Message - 
  From: CJ & AA MAY
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 12:50 AM
  Subject: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS


  I upgraded my Airrpods last week and although they work well, I definitely 
wouldn’t dare try to use them outdoors as they only just fit in my ears.

  Alison



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kelly Ford
  Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 6:17 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Wired Earbuds without jell tips for iPhone 15?



  Apple does sell the same basic earbuds with a USB connector instead of a 
lightning connector if that is of any interest.









On Nov 11, 2023, at 12:04 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:



Hi all,

I’m looking for wired earbuds that have either the same design as the 
Apple earpods or the traditional earbuds where the part that went into your 
ear is hard and not the interchangeable ear tips.



Any links appreciated.







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Access Technology Specialist and Instructor

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Re: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

[alban hoxha]

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of CJ & AA 
MAY 
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 7:05:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

Hey work well enough but only just balance in my ears and there is no way I'd 
risk going out in them.
Alison


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

I would not buy the third gen airpods.  I heard a review of them on youtube and 
I didn't like them.  If I were to get apple airpods, I'd get the pro2 model.  
However, I do have the airpods max headphones.  I might get the upgraded 
versions of the airpods max with USBC charging which will be sweet.

On 11/11/23, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I upgraded my Airrpods last week and although they work well, I
> definitely wouldn’t dare try to use them outdoors as they only just fit in my 
> ears.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kelly Ford
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired Earbuds without jell tips for iPhone 15?
>
>
>
> Apple does sell the same basic earbuds with a USB connector instead of
> a lightning connector if that is of any interest.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2023, at 12:04 AM, Adam Morris  <mailto:li...@damorris.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m looking for wired earbuds that have either the same design as the
> Apple earpods or the traditional earbuds where the part that went into
> your ear is hard and not the interchangeable ear tips.
>
>
>
> Any links appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Adam Morris
>
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RE: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And for every negative review of any product I can find you a positive review. 
Having said that, there is no product Apple makes (apart from their laptop and 
desktop computers) I am less interested in than their Airpods. I don't like 
things stuck in my ear canal and for $29.99 you can give me a set of wired 
Earpods any day, they work, they actually sound good, I don't have to charge 
them every few hours and I can't easily loose them. And they also let me put 
them just lightly into the outer area of my ear so I can hear everything around 
me just fine. Lastly, I don't experience any lag when typing and please don't 
tell me there is no lag with Airpods because I tried them in the Apple Store 
and there definitely is, there is no Bluetooth headset in existance which has 
no lag at all, at least not yet.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

I would not buy the third gen airpods.  I heard a review of them on youtube and 
I didn't like them.  If I were to get apple airpods, I'd get the pro2 model.  
However, I do have the airpods max headphones.  I might get the upgraded 
versions of the airpods max with USBC charging which will be sweet.

On 11/11/23, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I upgraded my Airrpods last week and although they work well, I 
> definitely wouldn’t dare try to use them outdoors as they only just fit in my 
> ears.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Ford
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired Earbuds without jell tips for iPhone 15?
>
>
>
> Apple does sell the same basic earbuds with a USB connector instead of 
> a lightning connector if that is of any interest.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2023, at 12:04 AM, Adam Morris  <mailto:li...@damorris.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m looking for wired earbuds that have either the same design as the 
> Apple earpods or the traditional earbuds where the part that went into 
> your ear is hard and not the interchangeable ear tips.
>
>
>
> Any links appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Adam Morris
>
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RE: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

[CJ & AA MAY]

Hey work well enough but only just balance in my ears and there is no way I'd 
risk going out in them.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

I would not buy the third gen airpods.  I heard a review of them on youtube and 
I didn't like them.  If I were to get apple airpods, I'd get the pro2 model.  
However, I do have the airpods max headphones.  I might get the upgraded 
versions of the airpods max with USBC charging which will be sweet.

On 11/11/23, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I upgraded my Airrpods last week and although they work well, I 
> definitely wouldn’t dare try to use them outdoors as they only just fit in my 
> ears.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Ford
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired Earbuds without jell tips for iPhone 15?
>
>
>
> Apple does sell the same basic earbuds with a USB connector instead of 
> a lightning connector if that is of any interest.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2023, at 12:04 AM, Adam Morris  <mailto:li...@damorris.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m looking for wired earbuds that have either the same design as the 
> Apple earpods or the traditional earbuds where the part that went into 
> your ear is hard and not the interchangeable ear tips.
>
>
>
> Any links appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Adam Morris
>
> Access Technology Specialist and Instructor
>
> AT Training by Adam’
>
> ABN: 30 10 60 97 912
>
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Re: 3RD GENERATION AirPODS

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I would not buy the third gen airpods.  I heard a review of them on
youtube and I didn't like them.  If I were to get apple airpods, I'd
get the pro2 model.  However, I do have the airpods max headphones.  I
might get the upgraded versions of the airpods max with USBC charging
which will be sweet.

On 11/11/23, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I upgraded my Airrpods last week and although they work well, I definitely
> wouldn’t dare try to use them outdoors as they only just fit in my ears.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Ford
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired Earbuds without jell tips for iPhone 15?
>
>
>
> Apple does sell the same basic earbuds with a USB connector instead of a
> lightning connector if that is of any interest.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2023, at 12:04 AM, Adam Morris  <mailto:li...@damorris.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m looking for wired earbuds that have either the same design as the Apple
> earpods or the traditional earbuds where the part that went into your ear is
> hard and not the interchangeable ear tips.
>
>
>
> Any links appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Adam Morris
>
> Access Technology Specialist and Instructor
>
> AT Training by Adam’
>
> ABN: 30 10 60 97 912
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3RD GENERATION AirPODS

[CJ & AA MAY]

I upgraded my Airrpods last week and although they work well, I definitely 
wouldn’t dare try to use them outdoors as they only just fit in my ears.

Alison

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired Earbuds without jell tips for iPhone 15?

 

Apple does sell the same basic earbuds with a USB connector instead of a 
lightning connector if that is of any interest.

 

 





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Re: AirPods Pro Audio Question

[Kelly Ford]

Well,

This is very interesting.

I am also running Parallels on my Mac.  The audio goes to mono only when I load 
JAWS inside the parallel VM.  If I don’t run JAWS, then the Mac audio works 
fine, even with Narrator.

Kelly

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> I can’t say why they are in Mono. But I can say I had issues with my M1 
> MacBook Pro and the Air Pod Pro 2 USB C edition. I’m using them just fine on 
> the 14 Pro Max but I am no longer using them with the Mac. Audio kept losing 
> voiceover and I would have to shut the Mac down to get it back.
> Merv
> 
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>> 
>> I bought Apple AirPod Pro Second Edition headphones recently and when I 
>> connect them to my iPhone 15 they sound good. When I connect them to an M1 
>> MacBook Air, I’m only getting mono audio. I wonder if anyone has ideas why 
>> the audio isn’t working correctly on the MacBook?
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Re: AirPods Pro Audio Question

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I can’t say why they are in Mono. But I can say I had issues with my M1 MacBook 
Pro and the Air Pod Pro 2 USB C edition. I’m using them just fine on the 14 Pro 
Max but I am no longer using them with the Mac. Audio kept losing voiceover and 
I would have to shut the Mac down to get it back.
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> MacBook Air, I’m only getting mono audio. I wonder if anyone has ideas why 
> the audio isn’t working correctly on the MacBook?
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AirPods Pro Audio Question

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I bought Apple AirPod Pro Second Edition headphones recently and when I connect 
them to my iPhone 15 they sound good. When I connect them to an M1 MacBook Air, 
I’m only getting mono audio. I wonder if anyone has ideas why the audio isn’t 
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Re: apple Airpods

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Might be worth looking to see if the information for this old TidBITS article is still available. They did battery replacements for $60.Refresh Your Old AirPods with a Podswaptidbits.comSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 19, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Call Apple. They ctell you how much it would cost to replace the batteries assuming you can. I'd call the main Apple number. 800-692-7753Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 19, 2023, at 5:39 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:These were a Christmas present some three years ago but recently they don't seem to be retaining battery power. Is it possible to buy new batteries for these  or do I need to replace them? If so, do I need to purchase the devices designed specifically for the iPhone (which are very costly) or can I buy cheaper versions?I do have headphones which connect via the lighting connecter but when entering text, these are painfully slow.Alison--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003801d9eaf6%2448e853a0%24dab8fae0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DC57516D-C8DC-4585-A766-4CD0A0659940%40comcast.net.



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Re: apple Airpods

[Richard Turner]

Call Apple. They ctell you how much it would cost to replace the batteries 
assuming you can. I'd call the main Apple number. 800-692-7753

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> On Sep 19, 2023, at 5:39 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
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> these  or do I need to replace them? If so, do I need to purchase the devices 
> designed specifically for the iPhone (which are very costly) or can I buy 
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apple Airpods

[CJ & AA MAY]

These were a Christmas present some three years ago but recently they don't 
seem to be retaining battery power. Is it possible to buy new batteries for 
these  or do I need to replace them? If so, do I need to purchase the devices 
designed specifically for the iPhone (which are very costly) or can I buy 
cheaper versions?
I do have headphones which connect via the lighting connecter but when entering 
text, these are painfully slow.
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RE: Siri volume very low when wearing airPods

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Siri has separate volume for speaker and headset, just ask Siri something which 
results in a longer answer and once Siri is speaking raise the volume on your 
headset and Siri should become louder.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 12:32 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Siri volume very low when wearing airPods

Hi,

I've had this problem for quite a while now. When I'm listening to some media 
through my airPods and a text comes in I can hardly hear siri when he reads the 
text. The media volume is normal and when the airPods are disconnected siri's 
volume is also normal. Has anyone seen this?

I feel like it started the iOS16 cycle but I can't be sure exactly when. More 
importantly, is there a fix?

Thanks

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Re: Siri volume very low when wearing airPods

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I did that once when the volume of Siri was very low on my bluetooth
headset.  It fixed the problem with no issues.

On 9/8/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Kimberly,
>
> I would suggest engaging Siri while you are wearing AirPods, such as asking
> for a weather forecast, and turning up the volume while Siri is speaking. I
> hope that will fix the problem.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Sep 8, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Kimberly Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've had this problem for quite a while now. When I'm listening to
>> some media through my airPods and a text comes in I can hardly hear
>> siri when he reads the text. The media volume is normal and when the
>> airPods are disconnected siri's volume is also normal. Has anyone seen
>> this?
>>
>> I feel like it started the iOS16 cycle but I can't be sure exactly
>> when. More importantly, is there a fix?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: Siri volume very low when wearing airPods

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Kimberly,

I would suggest engaging Siri while you are wearing AirPods, such as asking for 
a weather forecast, and turning up the volume while Siri is speaking. I hope 
that will fix the problem.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 8, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Kimberly Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've had this problem for quite a while now. When I'm listening to
> some media through my airPods and a text comes in I can hardly hear
> siri when he reads the text. The media volume is normal and when the
> airPods are disconnected siri's volume is also normal. Has anyone seen
> this?
> 
> I feel like it started the iOS16 cycle but I can't be sure exactly
> when. More importantly, is there a fix?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- 
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Siri volume very low when wearing airPods

[Kimberly Gardner]

Hi,

I've had this problem for quite a while now. When I'm listening to
some media through my airPods and a text comes in I can hardly hear
siri when he reads the text. The media volume is normal and when the
airPods are disconnected siri's volume is also normal. Has anyone seen
this?

I feel like it started the iOS16 cycle but I can't be sure exactly
when. More importantly, is there a fix?

Thanks

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RE: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And this sort of seamless switching is what I would absolutely expect from any 
Apple Airpods because according to Apple they are the best and m ost advanced 
Bluetooth headphones ever and yet this works with my Plantronics Voyager and 
apparently it still does not work with Airpods after how many years now?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio 
Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

Hello Everyone,

As the subject indicates, my question is:
Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio switch 
between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my Airpods when 
I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem to manage to get it to 
work.

Here is how it would look:  

With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:

1.
Place my Airpods in my ears.

2.
Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the 
Airpods.

3.
Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio feedback 
through the Airpods.

4.
Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the 
Airpods.

That's all, nothing more.

As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good while back, 
via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its infinite wisdom, broke 
the feature.

All replies greatly appreciated,

Mark


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RE: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[M. Taylor]

Thank you for the reply, Julian.

I feel much, much better, now.  I was beginning to think that I was doing 
something wrong.

Also, thank you for confirming 2 brands of products that can still accomplish 
VoiceOver audio switching between the phone and the watch.

I have really resisted using third-party headsets as I do so love my Airpods.

Again, thank you.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver 
Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, this is clearly bad implementation on the part of Apple. It 
bewilders me to know end that having control of the entire chain, they cannot 
get multipoint connection to work as expected between an iPhone, an Apple 
Watch, and AirPods. there are myriad third-party headsets that handle this just 
fine, including the under $30 pair that I occasionally use. Any Plantronics or 
Blue Parrot headset also does this quite well. I hope that in the future Apple 
is finally able to get its act together and make this work the way it's 
supposed to.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2023, at 11:46 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As the subject indicates, my question is:
> Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio 
> switch between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?
> 
> I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my 
> Airpods when I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem 
> to manage to get it to work.
> 
> Here is how it would look:  
> 
> With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:
> 
> 1.
> Place my Airpods in my ears.
> 
> 2.
> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback 
> through the Airpods.
> 
> 3.
> Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio 
> feedback through the Airpods.
> 
> 4.
> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback 
> through the Airpods.
> 
> That's all, nothing more.
> 
> As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good 
> while back, via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its 
> infinite wisdom, broke the feature.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated,
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[Julian]

Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, this is clearly bad implementation on the part of Apple. It 
bewilders me to know end that having control of the entire chain, they cannot 
get multipoint connection to work as expected between an iPhone, an Apple 
Watch, and AirPods. there are myriad third-party headsets that handle this just 
fine, including the under $30 pair that I occasionally use. Any Plantronics or 
Blue Parrot headset also does this quite well. I hope that in the future Apple 
is finally able to get its act together and make this work the way it's 
supposed to.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2023, at 11:46 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As the subject indicates, my question is:
> Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio
> switch between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?
> 
> I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my Airpods
> when I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem to manage to
> get it to work.
> 
> Here is how it would look:  
> 
> With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:
> 
> 1.
> Place my Airpods in my ears.
> 
> 2.
> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
> Airpods.
> 
> 3.
> Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio feedback
> through the Airpods.
> 
> 4.
> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
> Airpods.
> 
> That's all, nothing more.
> 
> As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good while
> back, via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its infinite
> wisdom, broke the feature.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated,
> 
> Mark
> 
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Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

As the subject indicates, my question is:
Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio
switch between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my Airpods
when I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem to manage to
get it to work.

Here is how it would look:  

With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:

1.
Place my Airpods in my ears.

2.
Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
Airpods.

3.
Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio feedback
through the Airpods.

4.
Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
Airpods.

That's all, nothing more.

As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good while
back, via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its infinite
wisdom, broke the feature.

All replies greatly appreciated,

Mark


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Cannot Start or Stop Alexa Assistive Reader Playback using Earpods or Airpods Manual Controls

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Recently, I have discovered that I cannot start or stop Alexa reading a
Kindle book on iPhone using either my Ear Pod or Air Pod manual controls.
Also, the VoiceOver magic tap will no longer start or stop playback, either.

Has anyone encountered this?

Steps to reproduce:

1.
With either Apple Earpods or Airpods connected to iPhone, open the Alexa
app.

2.
Using either voice commands or on-screen controls, get Alexa to begin
reading a Kindle book title.

3.
Now, try to stop /pause playback of the title by either using the magic tap,
the play / pause button on the wired Earpods, or by hand gestures on the
Airpods.  

Unlike in previous versions of Alexa, none of them work.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Cannot Start or Stop Alexa Assistive Reader Playback using Earpods or Airpods Manual Controls

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Recently, I have discovered that I cannot start or stop Alexa reading a
Kindle book on iPhone using either my Ear Pod or Air Pod manual controls.
Also, the VoiceOver magic tap will no longer start or stop playback, either.

Has anyone encountered this?

Steps to reproduce:

1.
With either Apple Earpods or Airpods connected to iPhone, open the Alexa
app.

2.
Using either voice commands or on-screen controls, get Alexa to begin
reading a Kindle book title.

3.
Now, try to stop /pause playback of the title by either using the magic tap,
the play / pause button on the wired Earpods, or by hand gestures on the
Airpods.  

Unlike in previous versions of Alexa, none of them work.

All replies greatly appreciated.

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RE: A good example of why not to where Apple Airpods Max while walking outdoors

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And why anybody would want to be seenn walking around with such a huge headset 
out in public is beyond my understanding. Not saying this justifies them 
getting it snatched, but of course given the noise cancellation feature the 
wearer probably isn't even aware a moped is coming up from behind until the 
headset is ripped off their head.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 10:51 AM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: A good example of why not to where Apple Airpods Max while walking 
outdoors

NYC thieves stealing Apple headphones off victims' heads

By Associated Press
February 26, 2023 at 11:43 a.m. EST


NEW YORK — Listen up! At least 21 people in New York City have had their fancy 
Apple headphones stolen right off their heads by a roving team of moped-riding 
bandits, police say.
The thefts started on Jan. 28 and have typically involved four people on two 
mopeds riding up to victims from behind, snatching their Apple AirPods Max 
headphones and then speeding off. The noise-canceling devices currently retail 
for $549 a piece.

The sonic swipers have struck all over Manhattan, including one incident in 
Central Park, with victims ranging in age from 18 to 41, police said. The bulk 
of the thefts happened in mid-to-late afternoon. Five headphones were stolen on 
Feb. 8 and eight were taken on Feb. 18.
The thieves remain at large, and no arrests have been made.
Police this week released a photo of suspects riding mopeds and a video showing 
one of them getting off a moped carrying two AirPod Max headphones and walking 
into Washington Square Park.
Unlike AirPods and AirPods Pro, which are small and fit inside the ear, AirPods 
Max headphones rest over the ears and have an adjustable headband connecting 
the right and left sides.




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A good example of why not to where Apple Airpods Max while walking outdoors

[Richard Turner]

NYC thieves stealing Apple headphones off victims' heads

By Associated Press
February 26, 2023 at 11:43 a.m. EST


NEW YORK — Listen up! At least 21 people in New York City have had their fancy 
Apple headphones stolen right off their heads by a roving team of moped-riding 
bandits, police say.
The thefts started on Jan. 28 and have typically involved four people on two 
mopeds riding up to victims from behind, snatching their Apple AirPods Max 
headphones and then speeding off. The noise-canceling devices currently retail 
for $549 a piece.

The sonic swipers have struck all over Manhattan, including one incident in 
Central Park, with victims ranging in age from 18 to 41, police said. The bulk 
of the thefts happened in mid-to-late afternoon. Five headphones were stolen on 
Feb. 8 and eight were taken on Feb. 18.
The thieves remain at large, and no arrests have been made.
Police this week released a photo of suspects riding mopeds and a video showing 
one of them getting off a moped carrying two AirPod Max headphones and walking 
into Washington Square Park.
Unlike AirPods and AirPods Pro, which are small and fit inside the ear, AirPods 
Max headphones rest over the ears and have an adjustable headband connecting 
the right and left sides.




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AirPods Pro (2nd generation) & Facebook Messenger

[Katrina Anderson]

Although my AirPods Pro (2nd Generation), work great for most things in
Facebook Messenger, recently I experienced audio switching from my AirPods
to the phone's speaker when starting a voice recording in the iPhone's
Facebook Messenger app.  I removed the pods and reinserted them; still on
speaker.  In settings, I searched for "microphone"; it led me to privacy and
security.  It shows microphone is on for Messenger.  I couldn't find
settings involving the microphone elsewhere.  Perhaps I should be looking
for a different setting not related to the microphone.  Any thoughts?
 
Katrina

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Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Kimberly]

This worked for me.  Thank you so much. And thanks to everyone for their 
suggestions. 



Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Dec 15, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> This should work whether they are plugged in or not. While they are in the 
> case, hold the case near the back of your phone, and open it. A dialogue 
> should pop up, telling the charge level of your airpods and the case. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Dec 15, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> My Air pods Pro Max shows the battery level on the Today screen when they 
> are placed next to the phone.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Feliciano Godoy" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:59 AM
> Subject: RE: Are my airPods charging? How to tell
> 
> 
> Kimberly,
> Looks like it's not supported then. I was under the impression that it was. I 
> think my old airpods used to show there. My current airpods pro 2 show under 
> the batteries section. Another cool thing about airpods pro 2 is that they 
> have a speaker on the case so when they are put to charge, they make a sound. 
> Additionally, you can ping the case. Just an FYI
> Feliciano
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell
> 
> My AirPods are second generation. When I go to the today screen, it doesn’t 
> give me the option to add a widget for batteries. There are only maybe a half 
> a dozen widgets available and battery is not one of them.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kimberly,
>> Yes, the today screen. What generation Airpods? Try going to the today 
>> screen followed by edit and see if you can add batteries to the screen.
>> 
>> Feliciano
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kimberly
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell
>> 
>> Do you mean the today screen?
>> Because i'm not seeing it there.  Do I need to add a widget for that?
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous
>> books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.
>>> 
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates:
>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Kimberly Gardner 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my
>>>> airPods are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see
>>>> is the status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a
>>>> light on the case, but is there some other way to know?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
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Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Arnold Schmidt]

This should work whether they are plugged in or not. While they are in the 
case, hold the case near the back of your phone, and open it. A dialogue should 
pop up, telling the charge level of your airpods and the case. 

Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Dec 15, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

My Air pods Pro Max shows the battery level on the Today screen when they are 
placed next to the phone.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Feliciano Godoy" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Are my airPods charging? How to tell


Kimberly,
Looks like it's not supported then. I was under the impression that it was. I 
think my old airpods used to show there. My current airpods pro 2 show under 
the batteries section. Another cool thing about airpods pro 2 is that they have 
a speaker on the case so when they are put to charge, they make a sound. 
Additionally, you can ping the case. Just an FYI
Feliciano


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

My AirPods are second generation. When I go to the today screen, it doesn’t 
give me the option to add a widget for batteries. There are only maybe a half a 
dozen widgets available and battery is not one of them.



Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Dec 15, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Kimberly,
> Yes, the today screen. What generation Airpods? Try going to the today screen 
> followed by edit and see if you can add batteries to the screen.
> 
> Feliciano
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kimberly
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell
> 
> Do you mean the today screen?
> Because i'm not seeing it there.  Do I need to add a widget for that?
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous
> books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.
>> 
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates:
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow
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>> can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my
>>> airPods are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see
>>> is the status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a
>>> light on the case, but is there some other way to know?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Andy Baracco]

My Air pods Pro Max shows the battery level on the Today screen when they 
are placed next to the phone.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Feliciano Godoy" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Are my airPods charging? How to tell


Kimberly,
Looks like it's not supported then. I was under the impression that it was. 
I think my old airpods used to show there. My current airpods pro 2 show 
under the batteries section. Another cool thing about airpods pro 2 is that 
they have a speaker on the case so when they are put to charge, they make a 
sound. Additionally, you can ping the case. Just an FYI

Feliciano


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly

Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

My AirPods are second generation. When I go to the today screen, it doesn’t 
give me the option to add a widget for batteries. There are only maybe a 
half a dozen widgets available and battery is not one of them.




Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen


On Dec 15, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:


Kimberly,
Yes, the today screen. What generation Airpods? Try going to the today 
screen followed by edit and see if you can add batteries to the screen.


Feliciano
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Kimberly
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

Do you mean the today screen?
Because i'm not seeing it there.  Do I need to add a widget for that?

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous
books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
 wrote:


On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.

Feliciano
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On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Kimberly Gardner 
 wrote:


Hello,

As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my
airPods are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see
is the status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a
light on the case, but is there some other way to know?

Thanks

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RE: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Feliciano Godoy]

Kimberly,
Looks like it's not supported then. I was under the impression that it was. I 
think my old airpods used to show there. My current airpods pro 2 show under 
the batteries section. Another cool thing about airpods pro 2 is that they have 
a speaker on the case so when they are put to charge, they make a sound. 
Additionally, you can ping the case. Just an FYI
Feliciano 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

My AirPods are second generation. When I go to the today screen, it doesn’t 
give me the option to add a widget for batteries. There are only maybe a half a 
dozen widgets available and battery is not one of them.



Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Dec 15, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Kimberly,
> Yes, the today screen. What generation Airpods? Try going to the today screen 
> followed by edit and see if you can add batteries to the screen.
> 
> Feliciano
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell
> 
> Do you mean the today screen? 
> Because i'm not seeing it there.  Do I need to add a widget for that?  
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous 
> books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.
>> 
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates: 
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my 
>>> airPods are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see 
>>> is the status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a 
>>> light on the case, but is there some other way to know?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> --
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Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Kimberly]

My AirPods are second generation. When I go to the today screen, it doesn’t 
give me the option to add a widget for batteries. There are only maybe a half a 
dozen widgets available and battery is not one of them.



Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Dec 15, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Kimberly,
> Yes, the today screen. What generation Airpods? Try going to the today screen 
> followed by edit and see if you can add batteries to the screen.
> 
> Feliciano 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell
> 
> Do you mean the today screen? 
> Because i'm not seeing it there.  Do I need to add a widget for that?  
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.
>> 
>> Feliciano
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>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>> ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my airPods 
>>> are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see is the 
>>> status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a light on 
>>> the case, but is there some other way to know?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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RE: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Feliciano Godoy]

Kimberly,
Yes, the today screen. What generation Airpods? Try going to the today screen 
followed by edit and see if you can add batteries to the screen.

Feliciano 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

Do you mean the today screen? 
Because i'm not seeing it there.  Do I need to add a widget for that?  

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.
> 
> Feliciano
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> ones who do. -Steve Jobs
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my airPods 
>> are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see is the 
>> status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a light on 
>> the case, but is there some other way to know?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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>> Kimberly
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Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Kimberly]

Do you mean the today screen? 
Because i'm not seeing it there.  Do I need to add a widget for that?  

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> On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
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> On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.
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>> are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see is the
>> status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a light on
>> the case, but is there some other way to know?
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Re: Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Feliciano Godoy]

On your iPhone, page one should indicate that info.

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> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my airPods
> are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see is the
> status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a light on
> the case, but is there some other way to know?
> 
> Thanks
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Are my airPods charging? How to tell

[Kimberly Gardner]

Hello,

As a blind person, is there any way for me to tell whether my airPods
are charging? When I look at them under settings all I see is the
status at the time I plugged them in. I'm guessing there's a light on
the case, but is there some other way to know?

Thanks

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RE: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Christopher Chaltain]

You'll have to do this on an application by application basis.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

Thank you for those clear directions. This has fixed the problem, though I did 
need to repeat the process when playing a file in Dropbox. I’m not sure if this 
is because you can choose to have that mode on or off on a per-app basis or 
not. Regardless, I know how to fix this issue now.
Matthew


On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

O, they are talking about BARD books in particular.
But this is true for any mono source.
I've not experienced this with just VO speaking.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

Hi Richard,
I think they are talking about voiceover being heard and stereo rather than 
audio playback. It cuts in and out doing this on the AirPods too. Hope this 
helps.
Jenn.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 30, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is not a bug.
> It is called Spatialized Stereo, which is different than Spatial Audio in 
> that it is an attempt to create a stereo sound out of a mono source.  
> To turn this off:
> Start something playing like a BARD book.
> Pause it.
> Bring up the Control Center, either sliding down from the top with one finger 
> to the first vibration and lift or touch the status bar and then swipe down 
> with three fingers.
> Find the Volume button on the Control Center and do either a one finger 
> triple tap or a one finger double tap and hold.  This brings up the context 
> menu.
> Find Spatialized Stereo and double tap to turn it off.
> 
> Now, you will have your standard mono sound with BARD books again.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?
> 
> I also believe it may be a bug… If you take them out of your ears and put 
> them back in, it usually goes away…
> 
> Sent from my IPhone.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
>>> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
>>> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
>>> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
>>> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like 
>>> it's a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made 
>>> the voice move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned 
>>> that off, the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there 
>>> a setting I can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matthew 
>>> 
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Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Matthew Bullis]

Thank you for those clear directions. This has fixed the problem, though I did 
need to repeat the process when playing a file in Dropbox. I’m not sure if this 
is because you can choose to have that mode on or off on a per-app basis or 
not. Regardless, I know how to fix this issue now.
Matthew


On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

O, they are talking about BARD books in particular.
But this is true for any mono source.
I've not experienced this with just VO speaking.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

Hi Richard,
I think they are talking about voiceover being heard and stereo rather than 
audio playback. It cuts in and out doing this on the AirPods too. Hope this 
helps.
Jenn.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 30, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is not a bug.
> It is called Spatialized Stereo, which is different than Spatial Audio in 
> that it is an attempt to create a stereo sound out of a mono source.  
> To turn this off:
> Start something playing like a BARD book.
> Pause it.
> Bring up the Control Center, either sliding down from the top with one finger 
> to the first vibration and lift or touch the status bar and then swipe down 
> with three fingers.
> Find the Volume button on the Control Center and do either a one finger 
> triple tap or a one finger double tap and hold.  This brings up the context 
> menu.
> Find Spatialized Stereo and double tap to turn it off.
> 
> Now, you will have your standard mono sound with BARD books again.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?
> 
> I also believe it may be a bug… If you take them out of your ears and put 
> them back in, it usually goes away…
> 
> Sent from my IPhone.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
>>> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
>>> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
>>> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
>>> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like 
>>> it's a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made 
>>> the voice move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned 
>>> that off, the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there 
>>> a setting I can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matthew 
>>> 
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RE: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Richard Turner]

O, they are talking about BARD books in particular.
But this is true for any mono source.
I've not experienced this with just VO speaking.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

Hi Richard,
I think they are talking about voiceover being heard and stereo rather than 
audio playback. It cuts in and out doing this on the AirPods too. Hope this 
helps.
Jenn.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 30, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is not a bug.
> It is called Spatialized Stereo, which is different than Spatial Audio in 
> that it is an attempt to create a stereo sound out of a mono source.  
> To turn this off:
> Start something playing like a BARD book.
> Pause it.
> Bring up the Control Center, either sliding down from the top with one finger 
> to the first vibration and lift or touch the status bar and then swipe down 
> with three fingers.
> Find the Volume button on the Control Center and do either a one finger 
> triple tap or a one finger double tap and hold.  This brings up the context 
> menu.
> Find Spatialized Stereo and double tap to turn it off.
> 
> Now, you will have your standard mono sound with BARD books again.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?
> 
> I also believe it may be a bug… If you take them out of your ears and put 
> them back in, it usually goes away…
> 
> Sent from my IPhone.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
>>> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
>>> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
>>> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
>>> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like 
>>> it's a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made 
>>> the voice move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned 
>>> that off, the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there 
>>> a setting I can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matthew 
>>> 
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Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Richard,
I think they are talking about voiceover being heard and stereo rather than 
audio playback. It cuts in and out doing this on the AirPods too. Hope this 
helps.
Jenn.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 30, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is not a bug.
> It is called Spatialized Stereo, which is different than Spatial Audio in 
> that it is an attempt to create a stereo sound out of a mono source.  
> To turn this off:
> Start something playing like a BARD book.
> Pause it.
> Bring up the Control Center, either sliding down from the top with one finger 
> to the first vibration and lift or touch the status bar and then swipe down 
> with three fingers.
> Find the Volume button on the Control Center and do either a one finger 
> triple tap or a one finger double tap and hold.  This brings up the context 
> menu.
> Find Spatialized Stereo and double tap to turn it off.
> 
> Now, you will have your standard mono sound with BARD books again.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?
> 
> I also believe it may be a bug… If you take them out of your ears and put 
> them back in, it usually goes away…
> 
> Sent from my IPhone.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
>>> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
>>> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
>>> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
>>> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like 
>>> it's a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made 
>>> the voice move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned 
>>> that off, the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there 
>>> a setting I can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matthew 
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RE: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Richard Turner]

Oops!  About the Control Center, that should have been a swipe up with three 
fingers after touching the status bar.
Here are the directions again for turning it off, only correctly given.
To turn off Spatialized Stereo:
Start something playing like a BARD book.
Pause it.
Bring up the Control Center, either sliding down from the top with one finger 
to the first vibration and lift or touch the status bar and then swipe up with 
three fingers.
Find the Volume button on the Control Center and do either a one finger triple 
tap or a one finger double tap and hold.  This brings up the context menu.
Find Spatialized Stereo and double tap to turn it off.

Now, you will have your standard mono sound with BARD books again.



Richard, USA.
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

It is not a bug.
It is called Spatialized Stereo, which is different than Spatial Audio in that 
it is an attempt to create a stereo sound out of a mono source.  
To turn this off:
Start something playing like a BARD book.
Pause it.
Bring up the Control Center, either sliding down from the top with one finger 
to the first vibration and lift or touch the status bar and then swipe down 
with three fingers.
Find the Volume button on the Control Center and do either a one finger triple 
tap or a one finger double tap and hold.  This brings up the context menu.
Find Spatialized Stereo and double tap to turn it off.

Now, you will have your standard mono sound with BARD books again.

HTH,




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

I also believe it may be a bug… If you take them out of your ears and put them 
back in, it usually goes away…

Sent from my IPhone.

> On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
>> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
>> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
>> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
>> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like it's 
>> a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made the 
>> voice move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned that 
>> off, the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there a 
>> setting I can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew 
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RE: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Richard Turner]

It is not a bug.
It is called Spatialized Stereo, which is different than Spatial Audio in that 
it is an attempt to create a stereo sound out of a mono source.  
To turn this off:
Start something playing like a BARD book.
Pause it.
Bring up the Control Center, either sliding down from the top with one finger 
to the first vibration and lift or touch the status bar and then swipe down 
with three fingers.
Find the Volume button on the Control Center and do either a one finger triple 
tap or a one finger double tap and hold.  This brings up the context menu.
Find Spatialized Stereo and double tap to turn it off.

Now, you will have your standard mono sound with BARD books again.

HTH,




Richard, USA.
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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
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Logan
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

I also believe it may be a bug… If you take them out of your ears and put them 
back in, it usually goes away…

Sent from my IPhone.

> On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
>> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
>> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
>> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
>> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like it's 
>> a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made the 
>> voice move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned that 
>> off, the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there a 
>> setting I can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew 
>> 
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Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[John André Lium-Netland]

Hi,

I experience the same thing when using my iPhone 12 mini with hearing aids. 
It’s very uncomfortable since VO is less distinct and less clear. Yes, just 
like a fake stereo chorus effect. 

Best,
John André



> 30. okt. 2022 kl. 03:41 skrev Matthew Bullis :
> 
> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like it's 
> a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made the voice 
> move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned that off, 
> the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there a setting I 
> can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
> Thanks,
> Matthew 
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Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Peter Logan]

I also believe it may be a bug… If you take them out of your ears and put them 
back in, it usually goes away…

Sent from my IPhone.

> On Oct 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
>> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
>> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
>> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
>> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like it's 
>> a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made the 
>> voice move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned that 
>> off, the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there a 
>> setting I can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew 
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Re: Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

I personally think it is a bug. I hope they fix it soon!

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 29, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second 
> generation which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years 
> died. When playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe 
> the audio as  kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like 
> it's coming directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like it's 
> a stereo file. I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made the voice 
> move when I moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned that off, 
> the moving stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there a setting I 
> can change, or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
> Thanks,
> Matthew 
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Fake stereo mode on Airpods Pro 2?

[Matthew Bullis]

I just upgraded from the second generation Airpods to the Pro second generation 
which just came out, because my Airpods I’ve had for three years died. When 
playing a Bard book, or any other mono source, I would describe the audio as  
kind of a fake stereo with slight echo. It should sound like it's coming 
directly in the middle of my head, but it's spread out like it's a stereo file. 
I originally had the spatial audio on, but that made the voice move when I 
moved my head, and I didn’t like that. Once I turned that off, the moving 
stopped, but this fake stereo is still here. Is there a setting I can change, 
or is this just how these earbuds render the audio?
Thanks,
Matthew 

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Magnetic Anti Lost Strap for Apple Airpods - Siliconen Wireless Band

[William Windels]

hello, i bought airpods pro 2e generation and I want to hold both airpods 
together wit a strip.
I am not shure but are te strips for the airpods pro 1 gen also working on the 
2 gen of airpods pro?

if so, are there some good experiences with this streps? and which one?

Thx in advance
Mvg 
William windels
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

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RE: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

[Christopher Chaltain]

Go into Settings -> Bluetooth and find your Airpod Pros. Flick down to more 
information and double tap. Here you'll be able to change some configuration 
settings including what you can do with each bud.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

Okay great. Also, is there somewhere I can get a list of the airpod controls? 
Right now I'm just playing but don't really know how to make the airpods do 
anything.

Kim

On 9/23/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> If yours are the same as mine, the cable you use to charge your iPhone 
> should also fit the iPod case.
> Alison
>
>
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> Sent: 23 September 2022 13:32
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> Subject: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just got my first airpods. They are the pro 2nd generation. I feel 
> dumb asking this but how do I charge them? The cable that comes with 
> the airpods (I don't have a wireless charger) doesn't look like it 
> will fit any of the charging bricks either. Am I missing something? Do 
> I need to buy yet another charger?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Kim
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Re: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

[joseph hudson]

The cable is a USB-C cable. You can buy the block for eight off of Amazon for I 
believe about 30 bucks for a pack of three.

> On Sep 23, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
> wrote:
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> 
> I just got my first airpods. They are the pro 2nd generation. I feel
> dumb asking this but how do I charge them? The cable that comes with
> the airpods (I don't have a wireless charger) doesn't look like it
> will fit any of the charging bricks either. Am I missing something? Do
> I need to buy yet another charger?
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RE: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

[Kevin Minor]

Hi Kim.

I don't know what kind of charging cable the airpods come with, but if it's 
like what Apple has done with other cables, such as for the apple watch and 
iPhone, it now uses a USB C connector to get power. It's a smaller USB 
connector, and won't fit into the larger ones. The larger connectors on 
computers a few years old are USB A. Apple and other manufacturers have 
switched to C. If I'm right, you'll need something to either plug into the wall 
to charge them, or Amazon sells a USB A to USB C adaptor.

I learned all this the hard way with my Apple Watch charging cable that I got. 
Wish Apple would have let people know this.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Gardner
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

Okay great. Also, is there somewhere I can get a list of the airpod controls? 
Right now I'm just playing but don't really know how to make the airpods do 
anything.

Kim

On 9/23/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> If yours are the same as mine, the cable you use to charge your iPhone 
> should also fit the iPod case.
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> Hi all,
>
> I just got my first airpods. They are the pro 2nd generation. I feel 
> dumb asking this but how do I charge them? The cable that comes with 
> the airpods (I don't have a wireless charger) doesn't look like it 
> will fit any of the charging bricks either. Am I missing something? Do 
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Re: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

[Kimberly Gardner]

Okay great. Also, is there somewhere I can get a list of the airpod
controls? Right now I'm just playing but don't really know how to make
the airpods do anything.

Kim

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> Alison
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> Sent: 23 September 2022 13:32
> To: viphone 
> Subject: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just got my first airpods. They are the pro 2nd generation. I feel dumb
> asking this but how do I charge them? The cable that comes with the airpods
> (I don't have a wireless charger) doesn't look like it will fit any of the
> charging bricks either. Am I missing something? Do I need to buy yet another
> charger?
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RE: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

[CJ & AA MAY]

If yours are the same as mine, the cable you use to charge your iPhone should 
also fit the iPod case.
Alison


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Gardner
Sent: 23 September 2022 13:32
To: viphone 
Subject: I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

Hi all,

I just got my first airpods. They are the pro 2nd generation. I feel dumb 
asking this but how do I charge them? The cable that comes with the airpods (I 
don't have a wireless charger) doesn't look like it will fit any of the 
charging bricks either. Am I missing something? Do I need to buy yet another 
charger?

Any help appreciated.

Kim

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I don't know how to charge my airpods pro 2nd gen

[Kimberly Gardner]

Hi all,

I just got my first airpods. They are the pro 2nd generation. I feel
dumb asking this but how do I charge them? The cable that comes with
the airpods (I don't have a wireless charger) doesn't look like it
will fit any of the charging bricks either. Am I missing something? Do
I need to buy yet another charger?

Any help appreciated.

Kim

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RE: airpods pro not working

[chrisjudge1967]

I have the AirPods pro and experience similar issues from time to time. There 
are also times when my left airpod won’t connect but taking it out and putting 
it back in a few times usually helps.

 

Chris Judge

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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: June 18, 2022 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: airpods pro not working

 

Ive had this same problem for years, on and off! I try turning Bluetooth off 
and on again and if that doesn’t work, go to Bluetooth in Settings, tap on 
AirPods Pro and then select Forget This Device. Reboot iPhone.  Then pair 
again. It works for a while - and tgen the connectivity problems start again. 
And round you go!

Harry





On 18 Jun 2022, at 11:48, 'Afik Souffir' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



 

Hi,

 

For some reason, my new airpods pro are not working. 

Any help? 

I've try to charged them, but they're not connect.

 

Any help will be nice.

 

Thanks much,

Afik Souffir

 

 

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Re: airpods pro not working

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

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and on again and if that doesn’t work, go to Bluetooth in Settings, tap on 
AirPods Pro and then select Forget This Device. Reboot iPhone.  Then pair 
again. It works for a while - and tgen the connectivity problems start again. 
And round you go!
Harry

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> Hi,
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> Any help?
> I've try to charged them, but they're not connect.
>  
> Any help will be nice.
>  
> Thanks much,
> Afik Souffir
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airpods pro not working

['Afik Souffir' via VIPhone]

 

Hi,

 

For some reason, my new airpods pro are not working. 

Any help? 

I've try to charged them, but they're not connect.

 

Any help will be nice.

 

Thanks much,

Afik Souffir

 

 

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Airpods Max here in Canada are $779 + taxes, since in Ontario you have 15% 
HST that means you would pay $ 895.85 for them.
The Airpods Pro are $329 + taxes and the Airpods Third Gen are $239 + taxes, 
still 274.85.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mich 
verrier
Sent: January 1, 2022 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it does 
cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring in to the 
situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario Disibillidey 
support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills etc oncemy rent 
is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on but I am strickley 
talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play around with once the 
rent is taken off of my check every month since it is taken off automatically. 
So for instince I have never had enough to pay for a IPhone out right so I am 
stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the same go's forajy other apple 
products like the apple watch for example. Shure you can get one for 0 dollars 
down but you still have to pay it off over the years. It would be nice if 
programs hear in Ontario like the assistive divices program would support the 
purchis of different apple products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I 
filld out a servay that made that idea. My point is that I agree what people 
choose or not choose to spend there oney on is there choice how ever not 
everyone has the funds to upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what 
have you. For instince I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up 
verry well. Could I upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just 
wate. But for instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless 
and having bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for 
walks and stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How 
ever I am happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I 
thought they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Simon A Fogarty]

Have a look at the bose noise cancelling headphones.

The qc45 or the new ones which are something 700

And they are a lot cheaper than the apple max things.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2022 2:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

So are there some comparable options that wouldn’t be a complete waste of money?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; mich verrier 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Cc21cdfb1ad6c40a84b0008d9cc559d3b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765490350148016%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=xvOVmZHLO%2FfGWxZbvBTnMr6TomYCZDlhYo9pZT1hvM4%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I use my bose NC700 headphones.  They sound very good to me.  I've
been using a set of anker headphones lately, and they also work very
well when listening to audio dramas, or bard books.  It all depends on
what you can afford.  I'm not saying that I'd never purchase a pair of
airpods max, but they are offly expensive.  However, I found some very
good deals on Ebay.

On 1/1/22, mich verrier  wrote:
> I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it
> does cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring
> in to the situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario
> Disibillidey support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills
> etc oncemy rent is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on
> but I am strickley talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play
> around with once the rent is taken off of my check every month since it is
> taken off automatically. So for instince I have never had enough to pay for
> a IPhone out right so I am stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the
> same go's forajy other apple products like the apple watch for example.
> Shure you can get one for 0 dollars down but you still have to pay it off
> over the years. It would be nice if programs hear in Ontario like the
> assistive divices program would support the purchis of different apple
> products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I filld out a servay that
> made that idea. My point is that I agree what people choose or not choose to
> spend there oney on is there choice how ever not everyone has the funds to
> upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what have you. For instince
> I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up verry well. Could I
> upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just wate. But for
> instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless and having
> bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for walks and
> stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How ever I am
> happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I thought
> they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about
> technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less
> so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape,
> but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth
> headset like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the
> border inform me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am
> talking about our currency.
> Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what
> they want and spend their money accordingly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months,
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS
> updates for a while.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much
> rather buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago
> because I know I'd be replacing

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[mich verrier]

I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it does 
cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring in to the 
situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario Disibillidey 
support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills etc oncemy rent 
is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on but I am strickley 
talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play around with once the 
rent is taken off of my check every month since it is taken off automatically. 
So for instince I have never had enough to pay for a IPhone out right so I am 
stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the same go's forajy other apple 
products like the apple watch for example. Shure you can get one for 0 dollars 
down but you still have to pay it off over the years. It would be nice if 
programs hear in Ontario like the assistive divices program would support the 
purchis of different apple products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I 
filld out a servay that made that idea. My point is that I agree what people 
choose or not choose to spend there oney on is there choice how ever not 
everyone has the funds to upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what 
have you. For instince I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up 
verry well. Could I upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just 
wate. But for instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless 
and having bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for 
walks and stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How 
ever I am happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I 
thought they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> He

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
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>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>> ved=0
>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> --
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>> iPhone list.
>>
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>> Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%
>> 7C1%7C0%7C63776618113539

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

True, and a very good point. This is why I don't presume to tell people what 
they should or shouldn't do and whether a particular product is worth the money 
or not. In addition to not knowing what other people's financial situation is, 
I also don't know how important different features are to someone and how much 
they're willing to pay for it.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
Happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
> updates for a while.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
> buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
> know I'd be replacing them by now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
> them by.
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> 
>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>> in or something.
>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3
>>> A 
>>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bda
>>> t
>>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4
>>> 3 
>>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
>>> y
>>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3
>>> 0 
>>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Drese
>>> r
>>> ved=0
>>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.
>>> x
>>> lsx?web=1>
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 
>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the 
>>> list itself.
>&

Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I like the Sony WH1000XM4. It is very comfortable. Has great sound. Normally 
retails for $349 US. However, I got a Black Friday deal for two of them for my 
wife and I. They were $100 off for several weeks over the holidays.
Merv


> On Jan 1, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
> Happy new year Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
>> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
>> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
>> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
>> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
>> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
>> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
>> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
>> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
>> updates for a while.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
>> me by will be better in a year or two.
>> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much 
>> rather buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago 
>> because I know I'd be replacing them by now.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
>> passes them by.
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> 
>>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>>> in or something.
>>> 
>>>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>>>> headphones:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>>>>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
>>>>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>>>>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>>>>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
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>>>>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>>>>> ved=0 
>>>>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>>>>> lsx?web=1>
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>>>> iPhone list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
>

Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Anthony Vece]

Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
Happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
> updates for a while.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
> buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
> know I'd be replacing them by now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
> them by.
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> 
>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>> in or something.
>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
>>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>>> ved=0 
>>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>>> lsx?web=1>
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
>>> itself.
>>> 
>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
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>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m
>>> ail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7
>>> Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%
>>> 7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw
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>>> 2FMs%2F5gakUkLMqRzdzIcNnAK3RaNLtjKa5n5h6oNU1m8%3Dreserved=0
>>&

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>> ved=0 
>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> --
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>> iPhone list.
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign  
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>> Ambitions<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_b
>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> --
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>> iPhone list.
>>
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There have been rumors for quite some time, but earlier this year they 
apparently showed off something at a tech show in Germany and if you Google 
"When will Sonos release a headset" or something like that you find a lot of 
articles from reputable sources where it was expected this would happen in 
2021, but unless they'll make an announcement in the next 49 minutes it will be 
2022 if at all.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: December 31, 2021 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.
Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7C6e4c52b2ea5d490c39d608d9cc49b106%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765439141460686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=cccWjBC9%2BIM%2BnqYjOEBvbr%2B02LqUOtkzu7eWBo7bUeo%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Andy Baracco]

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
passes them by.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet




I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
Ambitions<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_bvoutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.xlsx?web=1>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add 
the

headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the 
Airpods

Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Richard Turner]

First, Mary, The batteries can be replaced when they die; or at least that is 
my understanding.
Second, Joshuah, I'm sure if you got an Apple Card you could pay them off in 
time.
If people think Sonos will come out with a pair of headphones for less; I will 
be surprised if they do and if their batery is driving Wi-Fi and bluetooth, who 
knows what that will look like.
I'm quite happy with my purchase.
But, to each his/her own.



Richard
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly 
greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
> headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
> payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.
> 
>> On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
>> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
>> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
>> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
>> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
>> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
>> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>> 
>>> Happy new year everyone
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
>>>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>>>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
>>>> issue of any lag. There isn't one.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
>>>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
>>>>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
>>>>> to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
>>>>> waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
>>>>> most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
>>>>> mention that the audio quality is amazing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
>>>>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
>>>>> and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
>>>>> figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
>>>>> in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
>>>>> the slightest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They’re worth it in my book.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
>>>>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>>>>> headphones:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back A

Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.

On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>
>> Happy new year everyone
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
>>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
>>> issue of any lag. There isn't one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
>>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>>>>
>>>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
>>>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
>>>> to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
>>>> waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
>>>> most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
>>>> mention that the audio quality is amazing?
>>>>
>>>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
>>>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
>>>> and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
>>>> figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
>>>> in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
>>>> the slightest.
>>>>
>>>> They’re worth it in my book.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
>>>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>>>> headphones:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add
>>>>> the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to
>>>>> provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what
>>>>> the Airpods Max dcost.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Mary Otten]

I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the 
same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on 
batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth 
speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember the 
days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for a 
decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in 
obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I 
> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved 
> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the 
> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty 
> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the 
> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
> 
> Happy new year everyone 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
>> of any lag. There isn't one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>>> 
>>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention 
>>> that the audio quality is amazing? 
>>> 
>>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>>> slightest.
>>> 
>>> They’re worth it in my book.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>>>> headphones:
>>>> 
>>>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>>>> 
>>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>>>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>>>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>>>> Max dcost.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Lynda Ingraham]

I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I think 
they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved the 
sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the AirPod 
max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty flat so as a 
side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the sounds great and now 
Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.

Happy new year everyone 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
> of any lag. There isn't one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>> 
>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that 
>> the audio quality is amazing? 
>> 
>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>> slightest.
>> 
>> They’re worth it in my book.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>>> Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Richard Turner]

Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not plan 
to look for any other headset for music/movies.
I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue of 
any lag. There isn't one.




Richard
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly 
greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
> 
> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
> that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
> personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
> they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair 
> of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality 
> is amazing? 
> 
> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
> Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for 
> a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid 
> of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
> Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.
> 
> They’re worth it in my book.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>> headphones:
>> 
>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>> 
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>> Max dcost.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Ed Worrell]

I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair of 
headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality is 
amazing? 

Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for a 
very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid of 
the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.

They’re worth it in my book.

Ed


> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
> is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:
>  
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>  
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
> Max dcost.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[chrisjudge1967]

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.

Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

Christopher,

 

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

 

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames 

But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,

Depending on the price,

I’ll go there without waiting.

 

Sonos are an audio company 

Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

 

My sound system within my house is sonos,

Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

 

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 

 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

 

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

So are there some comparable options that wouldn't be a complete waste of money?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn't read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Cc21cdfb1ad6c40a84b0008d9cc559d3b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765490350148016%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=xvOVmZHLO%2FfGWxZbvBTnMr6TomYCZDlhYo9pZT1hvM4%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
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lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn't saying that anyone shouldn't 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I've always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I'm sure I'd be all 
over these headsets. This doesn't mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I've had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I've got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I'll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7C6e4c52b2ea5d490c39d608d9cc49b106%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765439141460686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=cccWjBC9%2BIM%2BnqYjOEBvbr%2B02LqUOtkzu7eWBo7bUeo%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
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lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Marco Curralejo]

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money 
in my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier"  wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? 
Mycrosoft wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t 
read the artickle. From Mich.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:


Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
Max dcost.



Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[mich verrier]

Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

 

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 

 
<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_bvoutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.xlsx?web=1>
 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

 

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

 

 

Best regards,

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Simon A Fogarty]

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Ce57745901de241e7e98708d9cc25a94a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765284389741210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=oKbcLcVMfj5BFxCTnheCq9Gke2ZLNAD7B%2Fk2fp7PQzQ%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Ce57745901de241e7e98708d9cc25a94a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765284389741210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=oKbcLcVMfj5BFxCTnheCq9Gke2ZLNAD7B%2Fk2fp7PQzQ%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
>
> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
> Ambitions<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_bvoutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.xlsx?web=1>
>
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods
> Max dcost.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_bvoutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.xlsx?web=1>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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AirPods 3rd Gen vs. AirPods Pro

[Joe Orozco]

Hi, for anyone who’s tried both the AirPods 3rd Gen and the AirPods
Pro, can you tell me about your experience?

How does the Transparency mode work on the Pro models? I don’t
necessarily like the tight fit in my ear canals, but if Transparency
could strike a compromise, I’d be interested in getting them so as not
to lose total environmental awareness.

Also, I’m curious about ear fit. Here again, I realize the Pros will
fit better, but if the 3rd gen models fit securely, I’d be interested
to hear your experience.

Lastly, how is either model doing with latency? With my 1st Gen, I
kind of disliked them on account of the latency between input and
Voiceover response. Has this improved in the current models?

Forgive me, I realize my questions are extremely subjective, but any
tips one way or the other would be appreciated.

Thank you kindly in advance,

Joe


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RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Debbie Downey]

No, you don’t need to do that. You just need to say Hey Siri.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

I would think that you don’t need to old them to use hey siri 

 

I don’t with my pros or the second gen I had,

 

Hey siri worked due to the updated chip they had in these models.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Debbie Downey
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 4:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Hello Christopher,

 

Actually, if I flick up to more info and double tap; it gives me some of the 
info but not what I’m looking for. So, I did what I should have done and 
searched on Google for the touch gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation.

 

It turns out that these gestures are preset and you can’t change them like you 
can with the 2nd generation or the Pro an Max models. 

 

So, that is something that I obviously didn’t know before I bought them!

 

The gestures are very easy;

Press once to play/paus, or answer the phone

Press twice to go forward a track

Press 3 times to go back a track

And press once and hold to ask Siri a question. 

 

They do sound pretty good though; have to get used to the Spatial audio but I 
can also turn that off.

 

Debbie 

   

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Not sure if it’s in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.

 

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Debbie Downey
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:35 PM
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Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Hello,

 

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
holding in the button to pair.

 

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I can’t 
remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to control 
these like with the previous models?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Simon A Fogarty]

I would think that you don’t need to old them to use hey siri

I don’t with my pros or the second gen I had,

Hey siri worked due to the updated chip they had in these models.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 4:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Hello Christopher,

Actually, if I flick up to more info and double tap; it gives me some of the 
info but not what I’m looking for. So, I did what I should have done and 
searched on Google for the touch gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation.

It turns out that these gestures are preset and you can’t change them like you 
can with the 2nd generation or the Pro an Max models.

So, that is something that I obviously didn’t know before I bought them!

The gestures are very easy;
Press once to play/paus, or answer the phone
Press twice to go forward a track
Press 3 times to go back a track
And press once and hold to ask Siri a question.

They do sound pretty good though; have to get used to the Spatial audio but I 
can also turn that off.

Debbie


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Not sure if it’s in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.

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Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Hello,

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
holding in the button to pair.

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I can’t 
remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to control 
these like with the previous models?

Thanks!

Debbie
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RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Debbie Downey]

HI Christopher,

 

When my AirPods first connected for which I was surprised that they did that so 
quickly; the gestures were read aloud to me but then disappeared and I haven’t 
been able to find them since other than on the Apple Support page. That is 
where it said that the touch gestures on all of the other models were 
customizable but on the 3rd generation they were preset making it sound to me 
like you couldn’t change them. 

 

I’ve got it down now though!

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Sounds like what you were looking for isn’t in the more information section, 
but one thing I forgot to add is that your AirPods need to be connected before 
you’ll see those gestures you can change in the more information.

 

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Debbie Downey
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Hello Christopher,

 

Actually, if I flick up to more info and double tap; it gives me some of the 
info but not what I’m looking for. So, I did what I should have done and 
searched on Google for the touch gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation.

 

It turns out that these gestures are preset and you can’t change them like you 
can with the 2nd generation or the Pro an Max models. 

 

So, that is something that I obviously didn’t know before I bought them!

 

The gestures are very easy;

Press once to play/paus, or answer the phone

Press twice to go forward a track

Press 3 times to go back a track

And press once and hold to ask Siri a question. 

 

They do sound pretty good though; have to get used to the Spatial audio but I 
can also turn that off.

 

Debbie 

   

 

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Not sure if it’s in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.

 

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Debbie Downey
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Hello,

 

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
holding in the button to pair.

 

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I can’t 
remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to control 
these like with the previous models?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sounds like what you were looking for isn't in the more information section, 
but one thing I forgot to add is that your AirPods need to be connected before 
you'll see those gestures you can change in the more information.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Hello Christopher,

Actually, if I flick up to more info and double tap; it gives me some of the 
info but not what I'm looking for. So, I did what I should have done and 
searched on Google for the touch gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation.

It turns out that these gestures are preset and you can't change them like you 
can with the 2nd generation or the Pro an Max models.

So, that is something that I obviously didn't know before I bought them!

The gestures are very easy;
Press once to play/paus, or answer the phone
Press twice to go forward a track
Press 3 times to go back a track
And press once and hold to ask Siri a question.

They do sound pretty good though; have to get used to the Spatial audio but I 
can also turn that off.

Debbie


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Not sure if it's in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Hello,

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
holding in the button to pair.

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I can't 
remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to control 
these like with the previous models?

Thanks!

Debbie
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RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Debbie Downey]

Hello Christopher,

 

Actually, if I flick up to more info and double tap; it gives me some of the 
info but not what I’m looking for. So, I did what I should have done and 
searched on Google for the touch gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation.

 

It turns out that these gestures are preset and you can’t change them like you 
can with the 2nd generation or the Pro an Max models. 

 

So, that is something that I obviously didn’t know before I bought them!

 

The gestures are very easy;

Press once to play/paus, or answer the phone

Press twice to go forward a track

Press 3 times to go back a track

And press once and hold to ask Siri a question. 

 

They do sound pretty good though; have to get used to the Spatial audio but I 
can also turn that off.

 

Debbie 

   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Not sure if it’s in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

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Debbie Downey
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

 

Hello,

 

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
holding in the button to pair.

 

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I can’t 
remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to control 
these like with the previous models?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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Re: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

That’s what I did, and it worked. 

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 08:00, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Not sure if it’s in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
> Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
> doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.
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> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Debbie Downey
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> Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
> connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
> holding in the button to pair.
>  
> Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
> stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
> customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I 
> can’t remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to 
> control these like with the previous models?
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Debbie
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RE: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Christopher Chaltain]

Not sure if it's in the same place as my Airpod Pros, but try Settings -> 
Bluetooth and then go into More Info on your AirPods. You can get to this by 
doing a flick down when you get to the entry for your AirPods.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

Hello,

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about 
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with 
holding in the button to pair.

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each 
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember 
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I can't 
remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to control 
these like with the previous models?

Thanks!

Debbie
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Gestures for the AirPods 3rd generation

[Debbie Downey]

Hello,

 

I received my Air Pods 3rd generation and to my surprise they just about
connected on their own without having to go through the pairing process with
holding in the button to pair.

 

Anyway, I got a brief description of how many times to press or squeeze each
stem to do different things but how do I find this information? I remember
customizing my 2nd generation AirPods but that was a long time ago and I
can't remember where to do this. Are you able to customize how you want to
control these like with the previous models?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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RE: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[chrisjudge1967]

Thanks, will do.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: December 23, 2021 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two 
Weeks, Why?

Hello Everyone, 

Okay, I took my AirPods Pro into Apple and, after running a diagnostic test (or 
two), it was determined that I have a defective wireless charging case.  As I 
have Apple Care Plus, they are going to replace the charging case at no 
additional cost.  They had to order a replacement case as they had none in 
stock.

So, if you are experiencing a similar problem, I strongly encourage you to take 
your AirPods into Apple or an authorized retailer.

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two 
Weeks, Why?

Hello All,

I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing but 
excellent service from them, including standby battery life.

However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks to 
be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro, when 
out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life even 
though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  

I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting 
the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to help.

Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made certain 
to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a table for 
about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted that the 
AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.

She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running 
the same version of iOS.

When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the same 
as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of it's 
battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be sucking up 
the proverbial juice, even faster.  

Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more 
times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery power 
almost three times more rapidly than her set.

So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into the 
store and see what they have to say.

I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue 
they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their AirPods 
Pro sets.

If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue 
problem, by all means, chime in.

Thank you,

Mark


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RE: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone, 

Okay, I took my AirPods Pro into Apple and, after running a diagnostic test (or 
two), it was determined that I have a defective wireless charging case.  As I 
have Apple Care Plus, they are going to replace the charging case at no 
additional cost.  They had to order a replacement case as they had none in 
stock.

So, if you are experiencing a similar problem, I strongly encourage you to take 
your AirPods into Apple or an authorized retailer.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two 
Weeks, Why?

Hello All,

I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing but 
excellent service from them, including standby battery life.

However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks to 
be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro, when 
out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life even 
though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  

I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting 
the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to help.

Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made certain 
to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a table for 
about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted that the 
AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.

She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running 
the same version of iOS.

When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the same 
as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of it's 
battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be sucking up 
the proverbial juice, even faster.  

Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more 
times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery power 
almost three times more rapidly than her set.

So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into the 
store and see what they have to say.

I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue 
they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their AirPods 
Pro sets.

If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue 
problem, by all means, chime in.

Thank you,

Mark


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Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[CHELA Robles]

I too, own a pair of AirPods Pro and an iPhone 8 Plus running iOS 15.2 however 
I do not experience this issue you’re having but then again I recently 
purchased the AirPods along with Apple care. Check with Apple.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:50 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The same thing has been happening with mine, and it's only been a couple of 
> weeks. I did check and the case appears to be clean. They're charging fine, 
> they just aren't holding a charge like they use too, I was silly and didn't 
> purchase apple care, and the funny thing is, this started happening with mine 
> shortly after the warranty expired.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: December 22, 2021 10:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last 
> Two Weeks, Why?
> 
> Have you tried cleaning the case? I mean by making sure nothing has got down 
> in the case where they connect magnetically? I have had this happen before, 
> and i had to make sure that no ear wax or dirt had made it down there. If you 
> are totally sure that that is not the case, then I would make a quick call to 
> Apple to see if they can help you. If you purchased Apple Care with them, you 
> should have no problems getting them serviced or even replaced. Those are 
> just my thoughts?
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:25 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had 
>> nothing but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
>> 
>> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two 
>> weeks to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my 
>> AirPods Pro, when out-and-about, I find that they are completely 
>> drained of battery life even though I have not used them since charging, a 
>> day or 2 prior.
>> 
>> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including 
>> resetting the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  
>> Nothing seems to help.
>> 
>> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made 
>> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit 
>> on a table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It 
>> should be noted that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of 
>> our iPhones.
>> 
>> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both 
>> running the same version of iOS.
>> 
>> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually 
>> the same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 
>> 10% of it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces 
>> seemed to be sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.
>> 
>> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 
>> more times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing 
>> battery power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
>> 
>> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them 
>> into the store and see what they have to say.
>> 
>> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this 
>> issue they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on 
>> their AirPods Pro sets.
>> 
>> If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly 
>> out-of-the-blue problem, by all means, chime in.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[chrisjudge1967]

The same thing has been happening with mine, and it's only been a couple of 
weeks. I did check and the case appears to be clean. They're charging fine, 
they just aren't holding a charge like they use too, I was silly and didn't 
purchase apple care, and the funny thing is, this started happening with mine 
shortly after the warranty expired.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: December 22, 2021 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two 
Weeks, Why?

Have you tried cleaning the case? I mean by making sure nothing has got down in 
the case where they connect magnetically? I have had this happen before, and i 
had to make sure that no ear wax or dirt had made it down there. If you are 
totally sure that that is not the case, then I would make a quick call to Apple 
to see if they can help you. If you purchased Apple Care with them, you should 
have no problems getting them serviced or even replaced. Those are just my 
thoughts?

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:25 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had 
> nothing but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
> 
> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two 
> weeks to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my 
> AirPods Pro, when out-and-about, I find that they are completely 
> drained of battery life even though I have not used them since charging, a 
> day or 2 prior.
> 
> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including 
> resetting the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  
> Nothing seems to help.
> 
> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made 
> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit 
> on a table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It 
> should be noted that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our 
> iPhones.
> 
> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both 
> running the same version of iOS.
> 
> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually 
> the same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 
> 10% of it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces 
> seemed to be sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.
> 
> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 
> more times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing 
> battery power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
> 
> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them 
> into the store and see what they have to say.
> 
> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this 
> issue they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on 
> their AirPods Pro sets.
> 
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> out-of-the-blue problem, by all means, chime in.
> 
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> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[Jennie Facer]

Have you tried cleaning the case? I mean by making sure nothing has got down in 
the case where they connect magnetically? I have had this happen before, and i 
had to make sure that no ear wax or dirt had made it down there. If you are 
totally sure that that is not the case, then I would make a quick call to Apple 
to see if they can help you. If you purchased Apple Care with them, you should 
have no problems getting them serviced or even replaced. Those are just my 
thoughts?

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:25 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing
> but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.
> 
> However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks
> to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro,
> when out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life
> even though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  
> 
> I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting
> the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to
> help.
> 
> Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made
> certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a
> table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted
> that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.
> 
> She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running
> the same version of iOS.
> 
> When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the
> same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of
> it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be
> sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.  
> 
> Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more
> times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery
> power almost three times more rapidly than her set.
> 
> So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into
> the store and see what they have to say.
> 
> I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue
> they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their
> AirPods Pro sets.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue
> problem, by all means, chime in.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[chrisjudge1967]

You are describing the experience I am having to a t, including when the air 
pods were purchased.

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Sent: December 22, 2021 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two 
Weeks, Why?

Hello All,

I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing but 
excellent service from them, including standby battery life.

However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks to 
be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro, when 
out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life even 
though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  

I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting 
the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to help.

Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made certain 
to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a table for 
about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted that the 
AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.

She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running 
the same version of iOS.

When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the same 
as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of it's 
battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be sucking up 
the proverbial juice, even faster.  

Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more 
times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery power 
almost three times more rapidly than her set.

So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into the 
store and see what they have to say.

I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue 
they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their AirPods 
Pro sets.

If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue 
problem, by all means, chime in.

Thank you,

Mark


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Extremely Rapid Battery Drain on AirPods Pro, within the last Two Weeks, Why?

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I purchased my AirPods Pro last December.  Since then, I have had nothing
but excellent service from them, including standby battery life.

However, and I'm not certain when this happened, within the last two weeks
to be sure, all of a sudden, almost every time I go to use my AirPods Pro,
when out-and-about, I find that they are completely drained of battery life
even though I have not used them since charging, a day or 2 prior.  

I have performed all of the Apple-recommended procedures including resetting
the battery case, and removing the set from my account.  Nothing seems to
help.

Last night, I had a friend come over with her AirPods Pro and we made
certain to charge them both to 100%.  Then, we simply let each set sit on a
table for about 20 minutes, essentially in standby mode.  It should be noted
that the AirPods were not actively connected to either of our iPhones.

She has iPhone 11 and I have my beloved 8 Plus; however we were both running
the same version of iOS.

When we checked the battery status on both units, hers was virtually the
same as it was just after charging while my battery case had lost 10% of
it's battery life; also, both of my AirPods Pro earpieces seemed to be
sucking up the proverbial juice, even faster.  

Again, leaving the units on the table, after checking battery life, 2 more
times at 20 minute intervals, it was clear that my set was losing battery
power almost three times more rapidly than her set.

So, as my AirPods Pro are covered by Apple Care Plus, I will take them into
the store and see what they have to say.

I canvased a few other acquaintances (about 5 people in all) on this issue
they, too, are all experiencing  the same rapid battery loss on their
AirPods Pro sets.

If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this seemingly out-of-the-blue
problem, by all means, chime in.

Thank you,

Mark


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More questions about the AirPods 3rd Generation

[Debbie Downey]

Hello,

 

Is it possible to turn off Spacial recognition with the AirPods 3rd
generation?

I am using an iPhone 8 so I guess that means I don't have a USBC Plug to
charge my iPhone; do I have to buy one if I get the AirPods 3rd generation
or does it come with one? I don't know much about this MagSafe Charging and
don't have a Mag Safe Charging Pad so I would still use the Lightning
charging method? 

 

If I want to use these Airpods when walking around outside or for using
AIRA; it sounds like they would be better than the AirPods Pro because they
don't have Noise Canceling.

 

Debbie 

 

Sorry for all of these questions but that's what I need to know before
making this purchase. 

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Re: Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

[Richard Turner]

Spatial audio is not intended for mono playback at all.
There is nothing spatial about a person reading a book.
When you listen to something where the direction of the sound makes a 
difference, you may find it adds a lot of depth to the experience; but then 
again you might not.
But certainly evaluating spatial audio based on an audio book is somewhat 
pointless.



Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 8:03 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Hey Mark I wouldn’t do this with audiobooks at all I would do this with 
> music that supports spacial audio and also the Dolby Atmos surround sound 
> type of movies that support it as well but never audiobooks I tried it too 
> and I hated it you’re not alone with regards to the whole spatial audio thing 
> in regards to audiobooks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 2:30 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
>> to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.
>> 
>> Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
>> decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
>> latest OS.
>> 
>> Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
>> noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
>> only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
>> feature that I have been reading about.
>> 
>> I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
>> feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 
>> 
>> I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.
>> 
>> I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
>> regard to audiobook playback, anyway.
>> 
>> I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
>> visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
>> less jarring, somehow, I don't know.
>> 
>> For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
>> option when listening to audiobooks.
>> 
>> Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

[CHELA Robles]

Hey Mark I wouldn’t do this with audiobooks at all I would do this with music 
that supports spacial audio and also the Dolby Atmos surround sound type of 
movies that support it as well but never audiobooks I tried it too and I hated 
it you’re not alone with regards to the whole spatial audio thing in regards to 
audiobooks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 2:30 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
> to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.
> 
> Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
> decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
> latest OS.
> 
> Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
> noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
> only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
> feature that I have been reading about.
> 
> I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
> feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 
> 
> I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.
> 
> I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
> regard to audiobook playback, anyway.
> 
> I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
> visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
> less jarring, somehow, I don't know.
> 
> For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
> option when listening to audiobooks.
> 
> Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.
> 
> Mark
> 
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