Re: face id opinions wanted

android may use face ID, but i have heard, that they will be using the new fingerprint technology also. Dave. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Well, to be fair, some blind

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this is hilarious to me!why does this have to be explained? putting your hand in your pocket, and fondling and stroking your phone, um yeah! LOL I can’t even! On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: Um yeah... This is one of those things where if you've had vision, it's not even a

Re: face id opinions wanted

exactly! you know what you are doing, and that's really all that matters. not only that, but given the many misconceptions that sighteds still have about us anyway, does it really make that much difference? Simon - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December

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my samsung note 8 still uses good old touch id, thank the good lord! Simon - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:10 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted android may use face ID, but i have heard, that they will be using the new fingerprint

Re: face id opinions wanted

this thread started, with people, saying about unlocking their phones, which takes a second. not rubbing around in their pocket. Most of the members, who are talking about not looking blind, will look blind in many other ways. Dave. -Original Message- From: alia robinson Sent:

Re: face id opinions wanted

Hi Simon, know i don't ride. Dave. -Original Message- From: goshawk on horseback Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted we should rejoice in being different, as it opens people's minds! do you ride as well then?

RE: face id opinions wanted

Hi all, I remember when touch ID first came out it gave some people issues with not reading their finger print. I remember people putting in more than one finger and having to do it over again and again because it would not read their finger every time. Then after the next version of the iPhone

Re: face id opinions wanted

any "future boss" that couldn't be open minded enough to just accept how I used my phone, would almost certainly be too closed minded to employ a VI anyway, so again, not really a good argument. Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December

Re: face id opinions wanted

never heard such rubbish in my life! Would your future boss, think you are strange, if you are using your phone, with the screen curtain on? and they thought you were typing on a blank screen? Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:00 PM

Re: face id opinions wanted

The difference is that your hand doesn’t stay in your pocket when you get your keys out. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave wrote: > > then never get your keys, or wallet out. > > -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:47 PM > To: viPhone

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Re: face id opinions wanted

no one is saying they don’t accept themselves. there’s saying groping around in your pocket looks weird. it has nothing to do with seeing or not seeing. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Dave wrote: mate, i use to be a sighted person. And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves

Re: face id opinions wanted

I think it looks a lot weirder rubbing around in your pocket when people don’t know what you’re rubbing on, but that’s just me! LOL, at least if you had a phone near your face they’d have some clue. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Dave wrote: i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking

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i totally agree! Dave. -Original Message- From: goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would

RE: face id opinions wanted

Um yeah... This is one of those things where if you've had vision, it's not even a question. It can look really weird if not icky if you're standing or walking around while going to town in your pants or shorts pocket fiddling with your phone. A bag ... well, I guess not as much, but yeah,

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mate, i use to be a sighted person. And believe me, when i say. that some blind make themselves more conspicuouss, by trying not to look conspicuous! Get over it, and accept you have a visual disability, you will be a happier person. Dave. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley

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again, at the end of the day, you know what you are doing, so who gives a toss? Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:28 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted A sighted person wouldn’t know what you are doing. That’s

Re: face id opinions wanted

I have been around sighted people all my life, and as far as I have ever been aware they have no misconceptions about me, and if they do I soon put them to rest. why do you think it makes no difference how we act? On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:41 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote: exactly! you know

Re: face id opinions wanted

we should rejoice in being different, as it opens people's minds! do you ride as well then? Simon - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:19 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted i totally agree! Dave. -Original Message- From: goshawk

RE: face id opinions wanted

I don't know about you, but if I want to look towards my right hand that may be holding my phone to unlock it, I'm not going to be looking at my left hand or staring off into space. Moving your head all over the whatever.. Seriously, what are we talking about. People are trying to fit a

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Re: face id opinions wanted

I don't think iPhone users will have to wait years for this in screen finger print sensor. Android phones from Oneplus are already shipping with in screen finger print sensors and Samsung will include them in the phones they'll start shipping early next year. On 12/17/18 2:00 PM, lenron

Re: face id opinions wanted

Not really sure what the argument is here. Nothing wrong with people choosing not to use their smart phone eyes free for whatever reason. Also, once someone told me that others might think I look weird using my phone in my pocket then I'm free to do whatever I want and it's really no one

Re: face id opinions wanted

not if you are having to wave your phone all over the place, just to get the thing unlocked! -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Well, I’m not really worried about everyone

Re: face id opinions wanted

A sighted person wouldn’t know what you are doing. That’s the point. It looks like you are doing something strange in your pocket. The repetitive flicking motion that you use with VO makes the cloth move in such a way that it looks very weird and, to some, inappropriate, especially if it’s your

Re: face id opinions wanted

then never get your keys, or wallet out. -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:47 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the wrong place. Aleeha On Dec 17, 2018,

RE: face id opinions wanted

That is exactly what I was thinking. Who'd pay attention to you that much or care? Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 6:08 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face id

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Even if Apple came out with a phone with Face ID and Touch ID I'd most likely use Face ID more. When I first got my iPhone X, people told me to hold it about arms length and turn my head like a clock. Maria Reyes blindt...@gmail.com my group: blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io > On Dec 17,

RE: face id opinions wanted

Maybe the Apple gods got tired of hearing folks complain... Apple patent describes both Face ID and Touch ID on the same iPhone; Face ID on an Apple Watch https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/17/face-id-and-touch-id/ Fine and dandy, but we're living in the hear and now. Face ID isn't all that, but it's

Re: face id opinions wanted

As i said earlier. I was a sighted person too, and i still do all the sighted things, that i use to. But some blind people, find face ID difficult, and that is totally understandable to me. Dave. -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:43 AM

Re: face id opinions wanted

well I've always been a total, so I thank the good lord that I don't have all of these image hang ups. people take me as they find me, like it or lump it! Simon - Original Message - From: "alia robinson" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:44 AM Subject: Re: face id opinions

Re: face id opinions wanted

well, what i am finding here guys, now that i managed to get an alternate scan, it's certainly working better. Sorry for the rant. I'll keep everyone posted. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the > wrong place. > Aleeha >

Re: face id opinions wanted

How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you have your hand in your bag or pocket? and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks! You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the middle of the street. Dave. -Original

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i think people, were mainly talking about unlocking their phones, and not playing games, well having their phone in their pocket. Moving your head all over the show, to unlock your phone, looks a lot more silly and blind, as a sighted person, will know exactly how to look at the handset, to

Re: face id opinions wanted

I have never seen a thing, and I always turn my head to my phone when I’m using it. On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: I don't know about you, but if I want to look towards my right hand that may be holding my phone to unlock it, I'm not going to be looking at my left hand or

Re: face id opinions wanted

Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and now I’m done. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > > Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it

Re: face id opinions wanted

Also, if we want to look normal while using our phone, we gotta get rid of our Bluetooth keyboards, Braille displays, and tactile screen protectors, and never ever let the world hear VoiceOver blaring out of your speakers, no one wants to hear all that computer talk. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:05

Re: face id opinions wanted

Thing is I can use face id just fine, It's just annoying as hell. I tried it back when my mom had the max for a couple weeks. Also I am not just talking about having the phone in a pocket, there are other things that make it not so nice. Like someone mentioned laying down a bit ago. On 12/17/18,

Re: face id opinions wanted

exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much easier! Simon - Original Message - From: "lenron brown" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your

Re: face id opinions wanted

Well that's the only way I would ever consider buying another IPhone. When my mac dies it will be my last mac, unless I can find some kind of amazing deal on one with everything I want. I am tired of giving companies money and not getting exactly what I want. I just think about the price of having

Re: face id opinions wanted

Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like

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I got touch Id setup in know time. Also if it's cold out, using my phone in my pocket works just fine for certain things. hahaha face id more secure than touch id not worried about that when I don't have my phone around anyone I am worried about hacking my device. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley

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I think most people would be too surprised to see a blind person using an iPhone just like theirs to notice that oh my goodness the blind person is just using the thing flat on that table while facing me, so how can they see what’s on their phone? > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:02 PM, lenron brown

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that's probably all well and good if you have a good sense of direction and/or orientation. if those are a bit rubbish however, then it is a very different story! Simon - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: "viPhone" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:55 PM Subject: Re:

RE: face id opinions wanted

Hyperbolic much? The Touch ID thing and ability to use your iPhone while in your pocket sure was handy, but come on, we're such a small user group. To think Apple's going to somehow change their plans over something like this? Besides, you can still unlock your phone without removing it from

face id opinions wanted

Hey guys, OK, i need some input here on face ID. I'm gonna be brutally honest, i personally hate it. I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not as well as expected. I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i am with

Re: face id opinions wanted

Hi, I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have as well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone vertically a little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you have attention mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or

RE: face id opinions wanted

Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM To:

Re: A few questions about Bos speakers and Spotify versus apple music

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Re: face id opinions wanted

I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the stupid idea

Re: face id opinions wanted

It actually takes less time to set up than Touch ID did. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:42 PM, lenron brown wrote: > > All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your > head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to > do is just make my phone unlock.

Re: face id opinions wanted

Thing is when you talk about android you have choices at this point, just as you can go for the IPhone 7 or 8 at this point. Keep in mind lots of companies are trying to get this in screen fingerprint thing off the ground. On 12/17/18, lenron brown wrote: > I got touch Id setup in know time.

Re: face id opinions wanted

Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much more secure than TouchID ever was. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback > wrote: > > same here, who ever had the

Re: face id opinions wanted

You may want to try setting up FaceID again. I’ve gotten rather good at it, and if it doesn’t get it the first time, point your phone screen down, or away from you, then back at your face, and it’ll scan again. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > > that's the whole point. I've

Re: face id opinions wanted

Hi, I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you

Re: face id opinions wanted

thanks a lot, that's not a lot of help, as I am using an iPhone X. Simon - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:45 PM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with in-screen

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that's the whole point. I've just really struggled with it. Like i said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what seems like the right direction. Literally, if you're a quarter inch off, you're done. I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try and unlock my phone.

Re: face id opinions wanted

Ha you think I am worried about someone tripping out about me using my phone a certain way. I am blind my cane would probably be the first thing to throw them off. On 12/17/18, lenron brown wrote: > Thing is when you talk about android you have choices at this point, > just as you can go for the

Re: face id opinions wanted

Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the wrong place. Aleeha > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz wrote: > > Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're > going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game

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Re: face id opinions wanted

same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot! another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is particularly

Re: face id opinions wanted

I don’t mind it. Sure, when I’m laying in bed it’s a little of a hassle, but with a Bluetooth keyboard, I’d not really have that problem as I’d just enter my passcode on it anyway. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:42 PM, lenron brown wrote: > > All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it.

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Re: face id opinions wanted

All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id. On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > Hi, > I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me

Re: face id opinions wanted

who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly don't! given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it

Re: face id opinions wanted

Well, I’m not really worried about everyone being my future boss, but if I was around colleges, I would try to at least use the phone on a desk, but I don’t try to act all flashy and call attention to how “normal” I act. FaceID does help one look more “normal. > On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:00 PM,

Re: face id opinions wanted

Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot safer to have your phone in either your bag or pocket and I don't think it looks strange at all. Janet -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: face

Re: face id opinions wanted

I am not trying to be contravertial but surely if face id is the way things are going we should at least try. I haven't ventured down that road yet because my iPhone 7 is very good to me and until it packs up I don't see why I should change for the sake of it. I will not stop putting my phone

Re: face id opinions wanted

yet another very good point. Simon - Original Message - From: "Janet Bell" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:39 AM Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted Hi just wanted to point out that when you are out and about it is a lot safer to have your phone in either your bag or pocket

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