I just saw this post. I am only reading about 1 in 20 posts due to
lack of time. I hope if anything technical develops in long threads
that new threads with meaningful titles are created.
On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:41 AM, David Roberson wrote:
On an earlier post I suggested that the LENR
On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:41 AM, David Roberson wrote:
Second, if a small volume of material achieves reaction and
releases several MeV of energy does the material then allow the
reaction to spread? Of course the release of many MeV at the
active region now would be adequate to enable more
I just noticed that Krivit just created a few pages that shows that he is
declaring war against anyone that uses Cold Fusion name as a description
to LENR.
Dr. Mitchell Swartz page, disclosing personal email exchange:
On 2011-12-22 12:08, Daniel Rocha wrote:
McKubre's M4 bogus experiment index:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/McKubre-Experiment-M4.shtml
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111221ToWhomItMayConcern.shtml
In the above link it appears to me that Krivit is not just attacking
Interesting:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=6#comment-154138
1.
Sterling Allan http://Leonardo-ECat.com
December 22nd, 2011 at 1:59 AM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=6#comment-154138
Here’s the latest recap
*E-Cat Weekly — December
On 2011-12-22 14:09, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Dear Sterling Allan:
The work of Celani (congratulations) shows that in my patent
application I gave enough information to allow to an expert to
reproduce the effect.
What Rossi is implying here is that the information disclosed in his
patent
Don't shoot me, I'm only the reporter. If you have an issue with what
Rossi claims, take it up with him on his blog.
AG
On 12/22/2011 11:43 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2011-12-22 14:09, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Dear Sterling Allan:
The work of Celani (congratulations) shows that in my
From Akira:
-Original Message-
McKubre's M4 bogus experiment index:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/McKubre-Experiment-M4.shtml
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111221ToWhomItMayConcern.sh
tml
In the above link it appears to me that Krivit is not just
This is awful. Krivit's attack on McKubre is beyond the pale. I do not want
to say anything more about that. I do not want think about it.
One thing though. I hesitate to rake over long-ago controversies, but I
would like to point out something about this fax from Swartz to Krivit here:
From Akira,
McKubre's M4 bogus experiment index:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/McKubre-Experiment-M4.shtml
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111221ToWhomItMayConcern.shtml
In the above link it appears to me that Krivit is not just attacking
McKubre, but also
This is a complicated balancing act. See:
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/12/value-of-csp-increases-substantially-at-high-solar-penetration
This year, PV is widely seen as winning the competition with CSP, even
though CSP has some advantages. Sometimes a promising
See:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4956#p4956
For the record, I do not think anyone is putting pressure on me. I do not
mind any of the questions here or at the Defkalion forum. I regret that I
cannot address some of them. I hope I can say more in the near future.
As I
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
All I know is that it sure wouldn't be in my own self-interest to look
for trouble. This strikes me as terribly reckless behavior.
It is particularly reckless when you can make every argument without
including accusations of
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I to assume you examined the mathematical modeling and resulting curves
in the links I provided and have analyzed and rejected them for some good
reason?
Yes. I have seen blacksmiths at work. I have seen one heat a large chunk of
iron, as big as the
Rossi is an extremely common Italian surname. I can see Rossi used as a
name of a company everywhere here, since several million people in
my country descends from Italians.
2011/12/22 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Note that Rossi means Smith. Perhaps he comes from a long line of
Horace:
The problem I see with some kind of outside trigger is that the turn-on of
excess heat would occur randomly. how does one control when that cosmic ray
or muon will initiate the reaction? In one of the demos, it appeared to
turn on at a specific temperature.
-mark
From: Horace
On 2011-12-22 16:44, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4956#p4956
On a side note, speaking of Defkalion GT, while reading E-Cat related
comments on a different website I found this image originating from PESN
[1]:
http://i.imgur.com/lFWUT.gif
At least he is new to me. With my commute, I have loads of time to
listen to audio books. I usually download these from our library and
stumbled across Embassytown by China Mieville.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Mieville
He has basically established his own genre called The New Weird and
Oh, nice, it seems his political orientation aligns pretty much with mine,
which is quite rare for SciFi writers. Makes me want to read his books, hmm.
2011/12/22 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
At least he is new to me. With my commute, I have loads of time to
listen to audio books. I
*I speculate that the trigger results in a release of potential energy to
kinetic energy in a quantum mechanical system.*
*The nuclear reaction (fusion) is kept in a state of inaction or IOW,
quantum mechanical superposition (QMS) for an indefinite timeframe until
triggered.*
*This trigger
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
If I were Mary Yugo, in view of my report I would think twice about making
lurid accusations that Defkalion is engaged in fraud.
Where did I make lurid accusations of fraud? Links please?
I would cut back on the
Jed wrote:
Swartz sent me a similar letter when I quoted one of his papers and offered
to upload it. He threatened legal action in words similar to this fax if I
ever quote his papers or upload one. He sent me two messages like this. That
is why I deleted his papers from ICCF Proceedings at
From Mary Yugo:
Am I to assume you examined the mathematical modeling and resulting curves
in the links I provided and have analyzed and rejected them for some good
reason?
I assume you addressed this query to Mr. Rothwell. Nevertheless, I
have two cents of my own to add.
Having run
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Now, notice that Krivit declares Holy War against Cold Fusion here
(notice that in the linked letter inside the article that most of the
arguments are based on religious texts, only):
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/21/lenrs-versus-cold-fusion-and-the-s
Yes, I know the article was written by Larsen. I'm sorry that I was not
clear, the linked letter inside the article should be the linked letter
inside the blog post. Anyway, Krivit endorses the opinion.
2011/12/22 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
Daniel Rocha wrote:
** **
On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
Horace:
The problem I see with some kind of outside trigger is that the
“turn-on” of excess heat would occur randomly… how does one control
when that cosmic ray or muon will initiate the reaction? In one of
the demos, it
The background to this story is that Mitchell lSwartz does not approve
of Jed Rothwell and Ed Storms content policy for the LENR library.
They have said they prefer to include papers in the library which will
raise the credibitily and respectability of the field ( and I don't
just mean they prefer
Hi,
On 22-12-2011 4:07, Jeff Driscoll wrote:
Basically a high energy photon's first step towards becoming matter
happens at orbitstate n = 1/137.05999679 which Mills terms the
transition state orbitsphere.
Here's that number 137 again, is it possibly the same 137 which applies
to the maximum
On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I to assume you examined the mathematical modeling and resulting
curves in the links I provided and have analyzed and rejected them
for some good reason?
Yes. I have seen blacksmiths at work. I have
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:10 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary, as already suggested by Mr. Rothwell, I suggest you might want
to consider performing an actual physical experiment. I'm sure you
have sufficient tools at your disposal to perform such an
Jed,
Rossi doesn't mean Smith. It is translated sometime by Google as Smith
because Smith is such common name in the anglophone world and Rossi is an
extremely common (if not the most common) Italian last names.
Rossi means red one, probably the ancestors of this family were red
headed.
The last
On 22 December 2011 15:13, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-12-22 14:09, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Dear Sterling Allan:
The work of Celani (congratulations) shows that in my patent
application I gave enough information to allow to an expert to
reproduce the effect.
As a background to this, please remember that Rossi claims DGT has never been
in possession of the reactor. Defkalion claims that after separating from
Rossi, they developed their own core technology. From the Defkalion forum,
these are exact quotes from the administrator: Defkalion GT.
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 19:27 +0100, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
On 22-12-2011 4:07, Jeff Driscoll wrote:
Basically a high energy photon's first step towards becoming matter
happens at orbitstate n = 1/137.05999679 which Mills terms the
transition state orbitsphere.
Here's that number 137
I wasn't done assembling that list, and sent it by accident. It's been sitting
in draft form for awhile, and I was adding a bit. Still, since it's out there:
Defkalion has claimed to have 115 Hyperions in simultaneous operation for
production of a 1 MW reactor. They've never seen gains
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
I wasn't done assembling that list, and sent it by accident. It's been
sitting in draft form for awhile, and I was adding a bit. Still, since
it's out there:
Defkalion has claimed to have 115 Hyperions
See:
http://www.geocities.jp/hjrfq930/News/CFRLEngNews/CFRLEN77.htm
A significant transmutation result was reported:
2-1. The Cold Fusion Phenomenon in Hydrogen Graphites
In this paper, we took up experimental data sets of nuclear
transmutation and excess heat in discharge and
The tag NOT is very misleading or confusing. Perhaps nOT is more
useful? Or maybe something like TECH: is more descriptive. Future
searches on TECH: should be more useful than searches on TECH.
Non-technical debates, i.e. ones about fraud or no fraud, fake or not
fake, political, legal or
Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
Rossi doesn't mean Smith. It is translated sometime by Google as Smith
because Smith is such common name in the anglophone world and Rossi is
an extremely common (if not the most common) Italian last names.
Rossi means red one, probably the ancestors of this family
Mary Yugo wrote:
Rossi is not dumping a preheated steel mass into a bucket of water.
He's insulating it very carefully and trickling water through it at a
very modest rate. I've always been struck at the low and hesitant
flow from his pumps. Click... click..click.. And the
I found a nice linke there:
http://www.geocities.jp/hjrfq930/Papers/paperr/paperr.html
Including a paper about the 3 laws of CF.
2011/12/22 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
See:
Jed sez:
Wow! That gives us an interesting look at how Google translation works. The
computer picks a word that is functionally similar. One that has similar
uses, distribution or frequency.
Or maybe it is a database error.
The word roth also means red, in Middle English. Hence the
Cosmic ray background is random but essentially a continuous condition on
the time scale of nuclear active site generation.
Both the Rossi and Piantelli reactors are subject to run away burn up
conditions when the temperature of the hydrogen and nickel rises above a
critical temperature.
The
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
The background to this story is that Mitchell lSwartz does not approve of
Jed Rothwell and Ed Storms content policy for the LENR library.
He may have said that, but we do not have a content policy.
They have said they prefer to include papers in the
Daniel,
Yes I noted the 2nd paper as well regarding the law of magic numbers and
forwarded it to Jones Beene which I believe he has been promoting for years.
Fran
From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 3:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject:
I completely and utterly agree that Rossi and Defkalion could not have both
been telling the truth.
So, now for assumptions that may or may not be accurate, based entirely on
opinion, supposition, wild speculation, and a little bit of a gut feeling:
It is possible that Defkalion was
I was seriously bummed out to hear the Navy researchers being forced to
stop their work due to too much publicity.
My question to Vortex members is this: What is the best way to advocate
for clean energy from this reaction, which we choose to call cold fusion?
This past year, Cold Fusion
I wrote:
We have uploaded papers attacking the field, by leading skeptics such as
Steve Jones. . . .
We have also uploaded a large number of papers that I personally think
have no scientific merit. They range from really bad to nonsense.
I do not wish to reopen a quarrel with Swartz.
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:30:49 -0900:
Hi Horace,
You probably did. I also pointed it out to Frank himself a couple of years back.
The calculation of the electron speed is nothing new. It's also in the Hydrino
calculations on my web site. However I still haven't
Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:
I was seriously bummed out to hear the Navy researchers being forced to
stop their work due to too much publicity.
My question to Vortex members is this: What is the best way to advocate
for clean energy from this reaction, which we choose to call cold fusion?
Yes, it is nothing new - Mills did this in 1990 rather emphatically - and even
then it was not new, but Robin - you seem to be downplaying your own
contribution.
Does not a 'screw-like' motion mesh with a Lissajous? or are you backing off of
that?
Seems like there is a connection, but maybe
Regarding the comments about SPAWAR here:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/Swartz/Mitchell-Swartz-Cold-Fusion-Researcher.shtml
As far as I know, Krivit had no role in the demise of the project. No one
has complained about him, or mentioned him. The Fox News report was the
straw the broke the
Hi,
On 21-12-2011 19:27, Terry Blanton wrote:
Or, you could take advantage of the endtimes and have some fun:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_MEXICO_APOCALYPSE_2012?SITE=APSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULTCTIME=2011-12-20-15-15-48
There won't be any endtimes, this is a (purposely
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
My confidence level would be much lower if they were not producing
near-term timetables.
Me too.
I like the fact they are making near-term timetables and I also like the
fact that they keep missing those timetables. I'm not joking. A real
At 08:25 PM 12/20/2011, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
AND HERE IT IS !
Go on the left of the academy and you see a symbol of a factory. If
you translate from Greek this what you get:
Former Factory Atmatzidis
Defkalion says no :
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4983#p4983
See:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4982#p4982
Government testing still in progress. Apparently it is way late. As I said,
that is not surprising.
Some details such as the factory acquisition had to be scrapped because the
building was too close to a kindergarten.
- Jed
Horace, does your theory mentioned below demonstrate the increased reaction
rate that appears as the temperature increases within the device core material?
Is it capable of operation at the relatively low temperatures expected within
the ECAT type of devices? Any idea about the energy
I was reading the Wikipedia about copper isotopes. All of them seem to take an
extremely long time before they decay into nickel so I was wondering about the
statement about the reaction happening far faster than melting or moving of the
large atoms. What type of reactions do you think are
Yes, I believe the electron moves with a screw like motion too.
Niels Bohr described the velocity of the ground state orbit with Planck's
constant. It goes back a way.
My velocity is 1/2 of that, and it came from observations of cold fusion
experiments. That perplexed me for years.
I have
The radius I get is 1.409 fermis is also 1/2 of the classical radius of the
electron. I believe that it is the crush radius of the electron.
Multiply twice the radius times the Compton frequency and the ground state
velocity of hydrogen pops out.
I now believe that all of this, no bounce,
You description of nuclear active sites reminds me of the operation of a laser.
If the excited atoms such as copper due to a reaction between nickel and a
proton maintain the excess energy for a long time(many seconds according to
wikipedia), maybe it can be stimulated by the proper trigger
I agree with you that the details probably contain what we desire if we can
read them properly. It is apparent that heat is one of the major factors
involved in the reaction rate and we must understand why this is so. I have
requested on many occasions for Rossi or Defkalion to release a
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I to assume you examined the mathematical modeling and resulting
curves in the links I provided and have analyzed and rejected them for some
good reason?
Yes. I have seen
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
It does not matter what rate you add the heat. The flow rate of the water
is unimportant. It might be stopped altogether.
It takes a certain amount of energy to keep the surface of the reactor at
80°C for four hours.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
If they had set a timetable back in June and they had met it on time I
would suspect they are fake. It never goes smoothly.
I was amazed that Rossi managed to pull off his 1 MW demo. I am pretty
sure it was real. The
Hi Jed,
Google have published some details of their algorithm and that's pretty
much how it works.
If they want to do say English/Italian translation they find a lot of text
(books, menus etc.) that exist in both languages and then they analyse the
text counting words by frequency. This gives
Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com wrote:
Google have published some details of their algorithm and that's pretty
much how it works.
Yup. I read some of their papers. It works surprisingly well.
I guess Rossi = Smith can be considered a mistranslation. Then again,
maybe this should be
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:
The public needs to be informed so that we will have the capacity to demand
this technology, and not let it be derailed again. What do you think is the
best way to do this?
Seek out mainstream journalists and explain to them why this
Best:
Persuade Rossi to sell (or rent) you a single e-Cat ASAP. I'll contribute
$ to that effort. Then have competent engineers instrument it and do a
proper test. If done properly, and it's a successful test, you won't have
any problems with advocacy.
-m
From: Ruby
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jed,
Google have published some details of their algorithm and that's pretty much
how it works.
If they want to do say English/Italian translation they find a lot of text
(books, menus etc.) that exist in both
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
The background to this story is that Mitchell lSwartz does not approve of
Jed Rothwell and Ed Storms content policy for the LENR library.
He may have said that, but we do not
This detailed, specific critical list of many seemingly arbitrary data
alterations in documents by Michael McKubre about a specific series of
runs, that have been at times been cited as strong evidence for a
predicted correlation of output heat with fusion of deuterium into
helium within palladium
Greetings Vortex-L,
Dr Takaaki Musha, former electrogravitics researcher with Honda RD and now
with the MoD, Ministry of Defense- Japan has a Field Propulsion- Gravity
Shielding book:
http://www.benthamscience.com/ebooks/9781608052707/index.htm
Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:44:10 -0800 (PST):
Hi Jones,
[snip]
Yes, it is nothing new - Mills did this in 1990 rather emphatically - and even
then it was not new, but Robin - you seem to be downplaying your own
contribution.
Does not a 'screw-like' motion mesh
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Best:
Persuade Rossi to sell (or rent) you a single e-Cat ASAP. I’ll
contribute $ to that effort. Then have competent engineers instrument it
and do a proper test. If done properly, and it’s a
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
You're more likely to be able to purchase an invisible unicorn
than a single e-cat to test.
Do I get my choice of colors?
T
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
You're more likely to be able to purchase an invisible unicorn
than a single e-cat to test.
Do I get my choice of colors?
T
Tinker Bell can see
That's I problem I have also. I have found that the angular velocity of the
electron equals the speed of sound in the nucleus during quantum transition. I
am not really sure what the angular velocity of the electron is. Its a weak
point in my arguments. I think it is somehow connected with
On 23 Dec 2011, at 03:13, Ron Kita wrote:
Greetings Vortex-L,
Dr Takaaki Musha, former electrogravitics researcher with Honda RD and now
with the MoD, Ministry of Defense- Japan has a Field Propulsion- Gravity
Shielding book:
http://www.benthamscience.com/ebooks/9781608052707/index.htm
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