[Vo]:whispering gallery waves

2013-06-29 Thread Axil Axil
The whispering gallery is located in the dome of St Paul's Cathedral, London, and has the curious property that if two people stand at opposite sides of the gallery, at a distance of 42 meters, and one whispers into the wall of the dome, then the other person can hear what is being said. If the two

Re: [Vo]:new publication re LENR technology

2013-06-29 Thread Peter Gluck
Prof Kim is a great personality it was honor and intellectual delight to write this interview. I hope George Miley will show us something very good at ICCF. The Defkalion team, thinking and action are real professionals and very serious- the best thing that has happened to LENR which along its his

Re: [Vo]:new publication re LENR technology

2013-06-29 Thread Peter Gluck
You are right, Jed's paper is indeed very well written and I will cite it in future discussions and papers re technology. In the present one I am focusing very specifically on the drama and what-it-could be of Cold Fusion. The idea is that CF was discovered too early when there were no conditions t

[Vo]:Voyager 1 Discovers Bizarre and Baffling Region at Edge of Solar System

2013-06-29 Thread H Veeder
Voyager 1 Discovers Bizarre and Baffling Region at Edge of Solar System http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/06/voyager-unexpected-region/ “The models that have been thought to predict what should happen are all incorrect,” said physicist Stamatios Krimigis of the Johns Hopkins University Appli

Re: [Vo]:Biberian book, with intro by Stan Pons

2013-06-29 Thread James Bowery
"mass loss calorimetry" What is mass loss calorimetry? http://www.fire-testing.com/mass-loss-calorimeter On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > See: > > http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/BiberianBook.pdf >

Re: [Vo]:Anyone willing to make a bet the eCat is not real?

2013-06-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "blaze spinnaker" > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:27:41 PM > Is anyone willing here to bet me $$$ that the eCat will not be proven > this year? All my betting money is tied up in a pre-order for a domestic eCat. As soon as it is certified I'll confirm my order. (I think I'm in the first

Re: [Vo]:Biberian book, with intro by Stan Pons

2013-06-29 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > See: > > http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/BiberianBook.pdf > quote <> Harry

Re: [Vo]:Biberian book, with intro by Stan Pons

2013-06-29 Thread Terry Blanton
That's the first public remarks I have seen from Dr. Pons in ages. Thanks, Jed! On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > See: > > http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/BiberianBook.pdf

[Vo]:Biberian book, with intro by Stan Pons

2013-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/BiberianBook.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Brad Lowe
Rossi sez he is working with "positive perspectives" on electrical generation and that he hasn't been unsuccessful. http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/06/rossi-on-e-cat-electricity-generation/ Of course, parsing Rossi can be a logicians nightmare. - Brad

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
blaze spinnaker wrote: Anyways, there's a clear reason why (most, ahem) main stream media outlets > do not report on Rossi, and it isn't a conspiracy to oppress him and his > 'discoveries'. > Mainstream media does not report on Rossi because he is strange and he has a dicey background, with crim

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Dealers Trying to Limit Tesla Motors Direct Sales

2013-06-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Tesla demonstrates battery swap technology. Elon Musk says you only have two choices, do you want it faster http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FE81S26XG8c or do you want it free? http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger In the battery swap demo, they swap out two model S bat

Re: [Vo]:new publication re LENR technology

2013-06-29 Thread blaze spinnaker
Thanks, great stuff. I found your interview with Professor Kim to be very fascinating and I too am very hopeful they (as well as Dr Miley) will have something exciting to report at iccf. Defkalion appears to be approaching this problem with a lot of maturity. I wish there was more focus on what t

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread blaze spinnaker
"If this were a real concern then science fiction should be banned." Sorry, did you just say Rossi is like Science Fiction? Sure, if we all like to view him as such, I agree with your point. I think you may find that's not what people are saying here, however. Anyways, there's a clear reason wh

Re: [Vo]:new publication re LENR technology

2013-06-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Peter Gluck" > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:58:23 PM > > My dear Friends, > I have just published: > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/06/how-lenr-technology-first.html It substantially endorses Jed's article http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJthewrightb.pdf (engineering

[Vo]:Re: [nVo] Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
[ Intended to be sent to vortex AND newvortex ] > From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" > To: newvor...@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 1:53:47 PM > Remember, I don't believe that Rossi is *actually using such a > trick.* But, in the absence of much better evidence, it cannot be > ruled ou

[Vo]:new publication re LENR technology

2013-06-29 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear Friends, I have just published: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/06/how-lenr-technology-first.html For me it is an important article- it is much of my LENR soul and thinking in it passion, enthusiasm and a lot of really painful questions, including: "Why I am still using a Bosch 3000W

[Vo]:[OT] Dealers Trying to Limit Tesla Motors Direct Sales

2013-06-29 Thread Terry Blanton
"As you may know, Tesla is under attack from a number of car dealer associations in various states who are challenging Tesla's right to directly serve our customers at Tesla Stores and Service Centers. Their efforts are protectionist in nature and infringe on the right of the consumer to choose ho

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Jed Rothwell" > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:45:18 AM > http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJthewrightb.pdf An excellent article !! > . If Bell Labs had not come up with the transistor, by now we would have > computers with a million “vacuum tubes on a chip.” Still going strong

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Mark Gibbs
While this whole argument has become somewhat ridiculous the assertion that "... to idly discuss these claims without proper verification is very careless" because of some theoretical economic impact has got to be the most ridiculous so far. If this were a real concern then science fiction should b

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Brad Lowe wrote: > 2. Unable to extract the energy in a useful way > 3. Demonstrates self-running electric and heat generator > . . . > > It seems like we have been stuck at state #2. Rossi claims he is working > hard on #3 and getting "close". > I think the problem with #2 is that the reactors

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: "Brad Lowe" > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:30:54 AM > The question becomes is a two-year long term call/put enough time for > Rossi's invention to reach the market and start impacting the price > of energy markets. > > The expected outcomes: > 1. Fraud (hidden wires etc.) > 2. Unable

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Brad Lowe
The question becomes is a two-year long term call/put enough time for Rossi's invention to reach the market and start impacting the price of energy markets. The expected outcomes: 1. Fraud (hidden wires etc.) 2. Unable to extract the energy in a useful way 3. Demonstrates self-running electric and

Re: [Vo]:arXiv:1306.6364 Comments on the report "Indications of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder"

2013-06-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher wrote: > They complain about testing two (three with November) different systems. I > see this as an advantage. > Me too. > That Levi SHOULD have speculated about the cause. What part of "black box" > don't they understand? > > A lot of speculation on their part about what's IN

Re: [Vo]:arXiv:1306.6364 Comments on the report "Indications of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder"

2013-06-29 Thread blaze spinnaker
http://stephanpomp.blogspot.it/2013/06/comment-on-independent-e-cat-report.html You guys should present our best critiques directly to Pomp. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > > From: "Berke Durak" > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:17:26 PM > > > It's still very unreaso

Re: [Vo]:arXiv:1306.6364 Comments on the report "Indications of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder"

2013-06-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Berke Durak" > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:17:26 PM > It's still very unreasonable. > > It would mean that all the hard, camera-specific calibration work > Optris & their software does would have been thrown away, to be > replaced by something Levi et al. would do at great expense fo

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread James Bowery
The terms of your wager conflate Rossi with Rossi's invention. T here is also the general problem with prediction markets: They reward ability to predict shifts in public opinion more than they reward foresight about nature. That's a very nasty conflation, indeed. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:2

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread blaze spinnaker
Well, if you guys are so sure of this, buy your call/put options now, you'll make a lot of money.. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:17 AM, H Veeder wrote: > The tide is coming in and people are oblivious. > Harry > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:26 AM, blaze spinnaker < > blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrot

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread H Veeder
The tide is coming in and people are oblivious. Harry On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:26 AM, blaze spinnaker wrote: > Because the implications, if the AHE report is accurate, are overwhelming. > And while it will be net positive, there will be massive creative > destruction that will occur if the eC

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, blaze spinnaker wrote: Because the implications, if the AHE report is accurate, are overwhelming. > And while it will be net positive, there will be massive creative > destruction that will occur if the eCat is real. ... So to idly discuss > these claims without

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: The device has been examined by competent people, but perhaps not as > perfectly as anyone would want. Nevertheless, enough to satisfy investors, > which is the only people who matter at this stage. > I like this summary. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread blaze spinnaker
Because the implications, if the AHE report is accurate, are overwhelming. And while it will be net positive, there will be massive creative destruction that will occur if the eCat is real. For example, in my province alone huge political spending programs on education and social welfare are be

[Vo]:Re: Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Eric
Sorry about the multiple messages but these are just popping into my head randomly this morning:   3 - Because the Power Analyzer is showing the voltage waveform for the third phase the idea of using the third phase wire and the neutral wire as an independent feed for the DC voltage could work i

Fwd: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Begin forwarded message: From: Edmund Storms Date: June 29, 2013 8:30:35 AM MDT To: Eric Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines? Thanks Eric! Another voice of reality and reason is heard. I agree with your analysis. Ross not only does not have the abilit

RE: [Vo]:Google-X Labs and Dr "Astro" Teller- LENR Rossi

2013-06-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Good Vid Ron, Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Enjoyed watching it. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/

Re: [Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Eric
A few more thoughts:   1 - It wasn't clear that a TRAIC is a current biased component and that with a DC current flowing after it was turned on it would not shut off when the AC current went to zero.   2 - There could be a three phase AC transformer in the control box before the TRIAC(S) which w

[Vo]:Could Rossi add DC Power to AC Lines?

2013-06-29 Thread Eric
So I read this board all the time but have not posted as you guys are usually smarter than I am.However, I am an Electrical Engineer working with many other Electrical Engineers and the question of how easy would it be to add DC power to the AC lines was interesting enough that we discussed it.Her

Re: [Vo]:Anyone willing to make a bet the eCat is not real?

2013-06-29 Thread Alain Sepeda
we agree 2013/6/29 blaze spinnaker > "It has already been proven." > > Clearly you and I have a different standard of proof. > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> blaze spinnaker wrote: >> >> Is anyone willing here to bet me $$$ that the eCat will not be proven >>> th

Re: [Vo]:Anyone willing to make a bet the eCat is not real?

2013-06-29 Thread Alain Sepeda
there is still people not believing in 9/11 or in Apolo moon landing... so E-cat will never be proven. LENr is proven since 1991, and nobody accept it... Subprime crisins was described by Roubini in 2005, anticipated in 2003... all is public. the problem is not being proven, it is being accepted