Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > I don't know where you are getting your information from but it looks to > me that others in academia are taking a wait and see stand rather than > dismissing Rossi as you do. > I get my information from the researchers. I meet with them every few

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, I don't know where you are getting your information from but it looks to me that others in academia are taking a wait and see stand rather than dismissing Rossi as you do. It also seems there is more research going on in Ni/LAH/Li systems with other governments now starting to back it.

[Vo]:Dwarfs, Roasters and Holmlid

2016-09-16 Thread Jones Beene
Red Dwarf stars like our closest neighbor, Proxima Centari, are provocative . especially if they heat a habitable planet and are close enough to travel to (using the EMdrive ?). This conjecture comes up today due to input from SciFi and SciAm concerning a recent fictional tale that turned out to

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: LENR should breakup into two independent sects, the Rossi sect and the > Rothwell sect. > That is more or less what has happened. However, you should not call it the "Rothwell sect." That gives the impression that I am part of a minority, or that I somehow

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: A researcher with a good experiment should contact I.H. They might fund the >> research. No one else will. No government will. >> > > Once burned twice shy. > > Do you really think I.H. would take another flier on cold fusion at this > point? > They

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Axil Axil
LENR should breakup into two independent sects, the Rossi sect and the Rothwell sect. Each of these sects should ignore the other. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > On 09/16/2016 03:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> >> A researcher with a good

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 09/16/2016 03:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: A researcher with a good experiment should contact I.H. They might fund the research. No one else will. No government will. Once burned twice shy. Do you really think I.H. would take another flier on cold fusion at this point? Rossi did a

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: It happens I thought first about the classic LENR community. > You might as well try to herd cats. > But your idea can be taken in consideration, what about a league and a > movement of Sucessful Competitors of the Rossi Technology- as claimed by >

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Peter Gluck
It happens I thought first about the classic LENR community. But your idea can be taken in consideration, what about a league and a movement of Sucessful Competitors of the Rossi Technology- as claimed by Rossi? If unity pro goes with difficulty perhaps unity against something is more stimulative?

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Lennart Thornros
One should not judge without all info. One does not need to believe that AR has anything, but 'we sure as hell should' give him the right to prove himself before judgement. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire,

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
We sure as hell do should not unify behind Rossi, if that is what you are thinking. If researchers endorse flimflam artists such as Rossi and Defkalion it will be the end of cold fusion. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:A question about Heavy and light Isotopes and LENR.

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen Cooke
Hi Bob I think you are right about factors out side the nucleus being of great importance. I was wondering if the data from these transmutations and isotopic shifts could tell us something independent of any theory about the nucleus. For example if the observed data requires particular states

Re: [Vo]:A question about Heavy and light Isotopes and LENR.

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thanks very much Eric for the pointers to the other papers and for the link to your interesting paper too. I have a lot to catch up with it seems. I was wondering if the transmutations and isotopic evolutions could turn out to require certain states such as excitation or parity spin states or

Re: [Vo]:A question about Heavy and light Isotopes and LENR.

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen Cooke
Your largely of course about Norman Cook having his own views about how to present the Nucleus, but I found the initial part of his book where he describes the relationship between various states and nucleus stability which is data based and independent of his ideas quite interesting. By

[Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

2016-09-16 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/09/sep-16-2016-lenr-needs-mortar-unity.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:A question about Heavy and light Isotopes and LENR.

2016-09-16 Thread Bob Higgins
Actually what you describe has already happened. Norman Cook himself is weighing in on a theory of LENR. However, I don't think it is that simple. Dr. Cook is well versed at what happens inside the nucleus, but the LENR phenomenon is bigger than that - it needs a condensed matter physicist also

Re: [Vo]:A question about Heavy and light Isotopes and LENR.

2016-09-16 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 5:25 AM, Stephen Cooke wrote: This [using Norman Cook's theory as a guide] would be a bottom up approach > from first principles which might the match well with one or more of the > more usual top down theories ideas. > This sounds like a

Re: [Vo]:A question about Heavy and light Isotopes and LENR.

2016-09-16 Thread Stephen Cooke
Eric I agree with what you said here completely. I think it could be well worth some one with an un biased mind looking through these transmutations and isotope evolutions to see what information it throws up. I guess for most of us find it very difficult to do though as I think we all have