A video about laser cooling for the layman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEAZaXhD_Y
Harry
On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:16 AM H LV wrote:
> Laser cooling is the cooling of atoms via spontaneous emission.
> In the video they say the laser radiation provides a damping force at a
> particular
modify QM system allowed energy
>states .
>
>
>Bob Cook
>
>From: Robin<mailto:mixent...@aussiebroadband.com.au>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 3:03 PM
>To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with ra
arbitrary.
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2022 1:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation
Robin--
Why does nuclear decay happen routinely?
The swap of potential energy of a QM system is not without restrictions
:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 4 May 2022 16:49:08
+:
Hi Bob,
[snip]
>Radiation cooling is how the final process of LENR works.
>
>The first
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 4 May 2022 16:49:08
+:
Hi Bob,
[snip]
>Radiation cooling is how the final process of LENR works.
>
>The first step is to swap nuclear potential energy to kinetic spin phonic
>energy of a QM atom (including electronic structure) which is
Radiation cooling is how the final process of LENR works.
The first step is to swap nuclear potential energy to kinetic spin phonic
energy of a QM atom (including electronic structure) which is classical thermal
energy subject to common radiation cooling in the second step.
This reaction is
dea of quantized space.
Bob Cook
From: William Beaty<mailto:bi...@eskimo.com>
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 9:01 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon
On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, H LV wrote:
>
&g
William
There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a
special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e-
annihilation usually is a 3 photon decay with <<0.01% being of 511keV...
The 511keV decay signal is an old illusion, that triggered a completely
Jurg,
You state "In SOP we show that the electron is a resonance of the proton."
Since I believe that the proton is composed of relativistic leptons and
leptons of EM fields (expressed as photons?), you have presented something
that will take me time to examine. I hope to do so - eventually.
On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, H LV wrote:
New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics
phenomenon
https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-ph
enomenon.html
VERY cool!
Perhaps this points to a new kind of physics which is a synthesis of
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 9:20 AM H LV wrote:
>
> New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics
> phenomenon
>
> https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-phenomenon.html
> quote
> "As we have explained in this study, there is a simple,
long more
> fundamental lines on the nature of causal determinism and the outstanding
> possibility (if not logical prerequisite) of non-local hidden variables..
> which in turn segues into philosophical debate re. distinctions between
> 'indeterminability' as an inevitable consequence of
- Original Message --
From: "Vibrator !"
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 29 Apr, 22 At 23:43
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics
> So progression from 18th century theory of Boscovich to modern
physics
Fascinating, i was unaware of Boscovich's cont
> So progression from 18th century theory of Boscovich to modern physics
Fascinating, i was unaware of Boscovich's contributions, great
first-principle reasoning though..
There's still a good bit of unfinished business with certain 18th-century
breakthroughs that've languished, but don't get me
Andrew
Just one thing:
I assume that you mean the atom (including the bound electron) is
neutral. If you mean that the bound electron (in its interaction with
the nuclear Coulomb field) is uncharged EM field only, then this would
be one of our incompatible assumptions. However, I am
29 Apr, 22 At 19:38
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics
Did Boscovich subscribe to a wave or a particle view of light?
I wonder if electrons are "elementary points" and protons are "first
order particles" in Boscosvich's scheme.
https://youtu.be/w1vi0
in add: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/schr.html
IE. equivalent, not conflicting..
e realism / objectivism debate is divided along more
fundamental lines on the nature of causal determinism and the
outstanding possibility (if not logical prerequisite) of non-local
hidden variables.. which in turn segues into philosophical debate re.
distinctions between 'indeterminability' as an i
ion from 18th century theory of Boscovich to modern physics
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "H LV"
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, 29 Apr, 22 At 13:19
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 20
hysics
-- Original Message --
From: "H LV"
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 29 Apr, 22 At 13:19
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 5:44 PM Vibrator ! <mailto:mrvibrat...@gmail.com> > wrote:
I have been doing more
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 5:44 PM Vibrator ! wrote:
> > I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated
> > emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept
> in
> > 1917.
> > Therefore you might think that it is only possible in a quantum
> theoretical
> >
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 3:15 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> I started to dig deeper the last few months and it became clear that most
> of the classic physics approaches are Kindergarten level physics based on
> wrong understanding of basic physics rules.
> On 25.04.2022 17:53, Andrew
Harry wrote:
> I had to look up those references. :-)
>
> Susquehanna Hat Co
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THZV5g1CNZM
> The Three Stooges - Slowly I Turned
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYP1OBZfFK0
>
>>
Clearly you have been too enveloped in your flaming youth to appreciate the
finer
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 2:42 AM William Beaty wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, H LV wrote:
>
> > I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated
> > emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept
> in
> > 1917.
>
> "STIMULATED EMISSION!" Oh man don't even
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 2:42 AM William Beaty wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, H LV wrote:
>
> > I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated
> > emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept
> in
> > 1917.
>
> "STIMULATED EMISSION!" Oh man don't even
Jones,
I looked quickly at the patent by Haisch and Moddel but could not find
anything about cooling. However, the authors of this paper,
ttps://arxiv.org/abs/0910.5893
experimentally investigated the claims of Haisch and Moddel in section
2.3.2. They tried to find alternative explanations for the
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, H LV wrote:
I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated
emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept in
1917.
"STIMULATED EMISSION!" Oh man don't even get me started. (Too late!)
Saying the words Stimulated Emission, that's
The Anomalous Magnetization of Iron and Steel, B. Osgood Peirce 1912:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/20022770?seq=2
The effects seem to pertain to high dv/dt impulses however.. not to
mention antique metallurgical samples (the high-Sv kind).
Modern electrical steels OTOH are designed to be
> Think of little magnets arranged end to end. NSNSNS etc. Not only do they
> attract but the field is cumulative, and as it
> get stronger it "convinces" other magnets to align the same way.
Variability of domain pinning strengths (individual domain wall
coercivities) is one cause of Sv per
Thanks, Jones...Danzik was what I was trying to remember, along with the
Earth Engine.
How do you do that with the neurons you have left?
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 4:33 PM Jones Beene wrote:
> Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back.
>
> ... or Steorn.
>
>
>
>
There is huge pent-up demand for cheap and carbon-free electrical power these
days, and gullible investors are constantly being fooled. PT Barnum
underestimated.
Holcomb Energy's technical claims may be unsophisticated to the point of being
laughable but they will find a few suckers. Holcomb
Photons are the universal = most basic form of energy. With photons you
can transport energy over any distance. So here the equivalence relation
E = mc^2 is obvious. Same for the Pointing power vector for a radiation
field.
But if you write E = mc^2 and e.g. m is 4-He then the equation simply
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 23:16:20 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>The guy's claiming that induced B in 'electrical steel' climbs to 500% of
>applied H.
Think of little magnets arranged end to end. NSNSNS etc. Not only do they
attract but the field is cumulative, and as it
get
Here's some interesting and colorful background on the principal
"inventor" Dr Roberet Ray Holcomb:
https://casetext.com/case/in-re-holcomb-health-care-services
On 4/25/2022 2:47 PM, Robin wrote:
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:32:24 + (UTC):
Hi,
[s
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 22:17:01 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>Classic misunderstanding ... the bomb energy comes from E=dmc^2 .
>
>
>J.W.
That was assumed anyway. I.e. the change in mass is where the energy comes
from. Are you saying that E=mc^2 is not the
total energy of
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:32:24 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]
> Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back.
>
>... or Steorn.
>
>
He appears to confuse magnetic field strength with energy. However, that said,
perhaps it works in a similar
I think I have posted this before, but Einstein was also able to derive E=mc^2
without recourse to his theory of special relativity. Max Born presented
this alternate derivation in his book Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Here
is the proof:
Harry - perhaps you should have a look at the work and patents of Haisch and
Moddel on the Lamb shift mechanism using hydrogen or helium in Casimir
cavities.
The dynamical Casimir effect can be either positive or negative and Lamb shift
photons would be cold. IIRC there was a measured
I was thinking about LASERS (Light amplification by Stimulated Emission of
Radiation) and it occurred to me that the notion of cooling radiation is
already present in quantum theory, but it is disguised as "stimulated
emission" in order to respect the mid 19th century doctrine that cooling
Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back.
... or Steorn.
Terry Blanton wrote:
So does anyone know about these folks? They make me think of Steorn but with
credentials.
https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/
THE TECHNOLOGY
The HES utilizes
Classic misunderstanding ... the bomb energy comes from E=dmc^2 .
J.W.
On 25.04.2022 21:23, Robin wrote:
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:25:49 +0200:
Hi Jürg,
If E=mc^2 is wrong, then perhaps you should write the major nuclear powers, and
explain to them why
Andrew,
I started to dig deeper the last few months and it became clear that
most of the classic physics approaches are Kindergarten level physics
based on wrong understanding of basic physics rules.
On 25.04.2022 17:53, Andrew Meulenberg wrote:
Jurg,
Thank you for the comments. It helps
Reminds me of "The Electric Universe Theory" including the *Safire Project*
.
There is a small earth to air current. Very weak but measurable. There were
attempts to gather this current with balloons covered with spikes, hundreds of
feet up. So, I guess the earth is negative.
From: H LV
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 3:02 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:25:49 +0200:
Hi Jürg,
If E=mc^2 is wrong, then perhaps you should write the major nuclear powers, and
explain to them why their bombs don't
work. ;)
>Andrew,
>
>
>I could give you a very long list. First problem: The Dirac equation
Using something similar to this method?
>
>
>
> *From:* H LV
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 12:33 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A simpler test
>
>
>
> Update...
>
> I haven't done any experiments yet, but I have refined my thinkin
Jurg,
Thank you for the comments. It helps us to understand the reasons behind
rejection of the concept of deep-orbit electrons.
Comments below
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:25 AM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> I could give you a very long list. First problem: *The Dirac equation
> itself
Andrew,
I could give you a very long list. First problem: The Dirac equation
itself is only working for fields and never for mass. The inclusion of
the relativistic mass simply is an error made by a mathematician with no
clue of physics.
The Einstein equation (E=mc^2) has been guessed
Zell wrote:
Could there be a way to generate energy by ‘transmitting away’ the
earth’s relative charge into neutral space? Using something similar to
this method?
*From:*H LV
*Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 12:33 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A simpler test
Update...
Jurg,
I would be interested in what physical laws you think are violated by the
deep-orbit electrons. Without the Dirac equation's "anomalous orbit"
results, I don't think that we would have looked for the relativistic
effects that make the deep orbits (and nuclear forces?) possible.
Andrew
_ _
Could there be a way to generate energy by ‘transmitting away’ the earth’s
relative charge into neutral space? Using something similar to this method?
From: H LV
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 12:33 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A simpler test
Update...
I haven't done any
I just want to remind some folks here that H*-H*, the only existing from
of dense hydrogen (besides D*-D*) has been measured by multiple methods
by Randal Mills, now some 3 years ago. Also Holmlid tried to measure the
H*H* bond energy but he did work with clusters of H* that suffer from
extremely fast (with just
about anything), resulting in an inexhaustible energy supply, whereas Helium,
as you envisage it, would need to be
re-expanded, in order to be reused, and the expansion energy has to come from
somewhere, making Helium only an energy
storage mechanism, rather than a primary
If the 2.8328 fermi mentioned in the paper is multiplied by the inverse
of alpha, the fine structure constant (alpha =1/137.035999), then you
get the radius of Randell Mills' TSO (Transition State Orbitsphere)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624
the radius of
On the possibility of "dense helium" - shall we call it the "alpharino" ?
Helium, unlike hydrogen, will not diffuse through metals - so long as the metal
is nonporous. The first step in densification is (probably) diffusion... but
that problem may not be the end-of-story.
Raney nickel for
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:26 AM Jones Beene wrote:
> HLV wrote:
>
> A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist
>
> Physics Letters B Volume 794, 10 July 2019, Pages 130-134
>
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624
>
>
> Thanks for posting this. One curious
Update...
I haven't done any experiments yet, but I have refined my thinking about
the nature of cooling or frigorific radiation.
Instead of striving for extremely low temperatures, I recently realised it
should be possible to look for cooling radiation between bodies which have
a large relative
HLV wrote:
A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist
Physics Letters B Volume 794, 10 July 2019, Pages 130-134
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624
Thanks for posting this. One curious observation is that there are a few other
atoms besides hydrogen which
I have now realised that the equations of state for water vapour published
on Dr Chaplin's properties of water website provide evidence for nested
Casimir pressures.
This combined with the explanation of Beta-atmosphere pressure given in the
article Aether Vacua and Cold Fusion provide a
Jones Beene wrote:
> very low power density now - plenty of room for improvement
>
Can it be improved? The temperature difference is so low, I am surprised a
thermoelectric gadget produces measurable current. In a third world rural
setting, it might make more sense to burn firewood or kerosene
My Mitsubishi Ecodan air source heat pump works between -18 to +35°C...
https://library.mitsubishielectric.co.uk/pdf/book/PUZ-HWM140VHA_-BS#page-2
Nick Palmer
On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 at 19:41, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV
I should explain that in Atlanta, when they install a heat pump, they
include a small, auxiliary, el-cheapo gas fired furnace along with it. It
seldom turns on. I don't know about Florida and other warm places.
In rural Japan where the walls are made of paper, they used to heat with
kerosene
H LV wrote:
> When temperatures fall to 25 to 30 degrees, a heat pump loses its spot as
>> the most efficient heating option for an Atlanta home.
>>
>>
> Apparently heat pumps have improved a lot over the last decade. This
> article says they now work well down to -10F or lower.
>
I looked at
Demonstrate the "toy" to a small number of friends and trusted colleagues.
Provide snacks and drinks.
Harry
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 6:00 PM Jonathan Berry
wrote:
> Interesting idea.
>
> And while I don't think there are many things that could be introduced as
> a toy (Otis T. Carr's patent
This is the kind of toy that is needed. People have made attempts to
emulate but as yet no one has succeeded. They need to try harder.
I believe it worked.
> "Bruce Welsh is an electronics engineer with* the o*pen spirit which has
> been devoted to alternative energies for twenty years. It is
A Bessler Wheel in the form of a toy.
Interestingly, Laithwaite came close to solving this with his gyro
demonstration at the RI.
May the strain be with you.
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 at 23:00, Jonathan Berry
wrote:
> Interesting idea.
>
> And while I don't think there are many things that could be
Jonathan Berry wrote:
> Interesting idea And while I don't think there are many things that could
> be introduced as a toy (Otis T. Carr's patent aside) ...Or maybe a perpetual
> motion toy, albeit if that was cheap enough to be for kids it would be a toy
> adults would want even more
Interesting idea.
And while I don't think there are many things that could be introduced as a
toy (Otis T. Carr's patent aside) ...
Or maybe a perpetual motion toy, albeit if that was cheap enough to be for
kids it would be a toy adults would want even more (executive toys).
I think that images
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 1:23 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV wrote:
>
> However, there has been a big push to instead choose more efficient heat
>> pumps. The Canadian Institute for Climate Choices report found that to
>> drive deeper emissions cuts, the switch to heat pumps "would play an
>>
In reply to Jonathan Berry's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:11:30 +1200:
Hi,
[snip]
>What would it take for a breakthrough in science?
Most people are instinctively afraid of what they don't understand, so they
ignore it, and hope it will just go away.
This is especially true if acceptance
H LV wrote:
However, there has been a big push to instead choose more efficient heat
> pumps. The Canadian Institute for Climate Choices report found that to
> drive deeper emissions cuts, the switch to heat pumps "would play an
> essential and growing role.""
>
As I said, I am surprised heat
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:48 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV wrote:
>
> Oil and gas furnaces are now being banned in new construction projects in
>> parts of Canada.
>>
>
> What are they installing instead? Surely heat pumps don't work in most of
> Canada.
>
> Are they putting in resistance
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 7 Apr 2022 22:47:30 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
"My guess would be gas."
Ignore that. :(
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 7 Apr 2022 22:47:30 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>What are they installing instead? Surely heat pumps don't work in most of
>Canada.
[snip]
My guess would be gas.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
H LV wrote:
Oil and gas furnaces are now being banned in new construction projects in
> parts of Canada.
>
What are they installing instead? Surely heat pumps don't work in most of
Canada.
Are they putting in resistance heaters? Those are extremely efficient. I
find it hard to believe they
Oil and gas furnaces are now being banned in new construction projects in
parts of Canada. In some places after 2023 you won't be able to replace old
furnaces with new furnaces. This will further increase the demand for night
time electricity.
Harry
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 9:07 AM Jed Rothwell
I wrote:
> It resembles airplane seats available between midnight and 8 a.m. They are
> discounted because few people want to fly "red eye" at those hours . . .
>
Note that airlines have to fly some number of airplanes at night, to
position them for service the next day. They cannot terminate
H LV wrote:
Yes, it will. There is no market for electricity at night.
>>
>
> There is no market currently, but if more and more electricity is being
> demanded at night wouldn't that create a market?
>
Yes, as I said, if nighttime consumption increases, I expect they will
tweak the rates to
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:52 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> CB Sites wrote:
>
> I will confirm what @Jed Rothwell is saying as an
>> EV owner. 90% of my travel is inner city 30miles or less all stop and
>> go. Just an overnight charge on a 110v plugin charger and good to go.
>> I've not seen a
Here is one of many examples of free nighttime electricity in Texas:
https://comparepower.com/electricity-rates/texas/free-electricity/
There is a lot of competition in the Texas electric power market, so many
companies offer this.
As I said, this is a good business model, not a favor to the
Chris Zell wrote:
As things now stand, automobile drivers are getting a free ride. That's not
> fair.
>
> Toll roads/bridges? License/registration fees? Gasoline taxes?
I don't know. We should see how they do it in London, England.
I paid a bridge toll in New York state just by driving past
Regarding hydrogen vehicles and safe fission reactors, over at LENR Forum I
wrote:
It may be possible to develop safe fission reactors. I cannot judge. Some
experts say pebble bed reactors might be safe. However, we know for a fact
that solar panels are safe, and they can produce electricity much
As things now stand, automobile drivers are getting a free ride. That's not
fair.
Toll roads/bridges? License/registration fees? Gasoline taxes?
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not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
H LV wrote:
"Free rider."
>
> I think public transport should be free too.
> but of course it won't really be free. The costs will be borne by the
> taxpayer.
>
Public transport is a lot cheaper than roads, highways and the damage
caused by automobiles. So it would be best to make public
H LV wrote:
"Free rider." ... I think public transport should be free too.but of course
it won't really be free.
Few thins are really free, of course especially if carbon fuel is consumed. But
basic transportation can be much smarter and less costly, perhaps fuel-free and
out-of-pocket
"Free rider."
I think public transport should be free too.
but of course it won't really be free. The costs will be borne by the
taxpayer.
Harry
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:51 PM CB Sites wrote:
> I will confirm what @Jed Rothwell is saying as an
> EV owner. 90% of my travel is inner city
What happens when everyone who currently owns a gasoline car buys an
electric car and
is charging overnight? Would it make sense for the utility companies to
continue offering huge discounts for over night charging?
Harry
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 6:42 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> I wrote:
>
>
>> I
I will confirm what @Jed Rothwell is saying as an
EV owner. 90% of my travel is inner city 30miles or less all stop and
go. Just an overnight charge on a 110v plugin charger and good to go.
I've not seen a noticble change in my electric bill. It's like driving for
free.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022,
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 5:28 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
>
> On 05.04.2022 22:11, H LV wrote:
> > Synthetic fuels can be used in existing gas stations.
>
>
> This is repeating classic nonsense.
Maybe it is undesirable, but it is not nonsense.
> Also synthetic fuel produces NOx
> what destroys
I wrote:
> I don't see the point. Why spend four times more money than you need to?
> Electric cars are far cheaper per mile.
>
It is actually 5.6 times more money per mile, because the power companies
offer a huge discount for recharging overnight. In Atlanta, the power
company estimates it
I wrote:
> Nearly all new generating capacity is renewable, because that is almost
> the cheapest. Aeroderivative natural gas is the cheapest at $1,294 base
> overnight cost, but solar PV is $1,327. . . .
>
See also:
Solar power will account for nearly half of new U.S. electric generating
On 05.04.2022 22:11, H LV wrote:
Synthetic fuels can be used in existing gas stations.
This is repeating classic nonsense. Also synthetic fuel produces NOx
what destroys everything. It leads to over fertilization of forests what
destroys the filigree relation between trees and soil
H LV wrote:
> What on earth do you mean?
>>
>>
>
> A few examples:
> --Volatile organic compounds
>
> https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/volatile-organic-compounds-impact-indoor-air-quality
>
> --Farming without disturbing soil could cut agriculture’s climate impact
> by 30%
>
>
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:46 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV wrote:
>
> Everything we do involves gaseous exchanges with the atmosphere.
>>
>
> What?!? Solar and hydroelectricity do not. Wind power does, in a sense,
> but it does not measurably affect the wind (the movement of air heated by
> the
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> Toyota has sold more than 50'000 Hydrogen fuel cell powered cars.
>
Where did you find that number? They have sold 9,978 in the U.S., which is
more than I expected.
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/toyota-mirai-sales-figures-usa-canada-monthly-yearly/
I think there is no
Toyota has sold more than 50'000 Hydrogen fuel cell powered cars.
These cars have the highest range 800km and do not suffer from the
winter dip of Li-ion battery power. Further a fuel cell produce still
50% heat for your car...
Currently we have 155 fuel stations in central Europe ::
David L. Babcock wrote:
Is anyone considering bottled hydrogen sold at gas stations?
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I think that would cost a great deal of money. It takes a lot of gas to
power an automobile. Think about how large the underground tanks of
gasoline are in a regular gas station.
In Japan they have tried a
Is anyone considering bottled hydrogen sold at gas stations? Was surfing
and saw a link about nearly indestructible plastic containers for powering
-I think it was- heavy construction equipment.
Think one gallon propane tanks. Available in many/most gas stations. So
neatly identical that you
H LV wrote:
Everything we do involves gaseous exchanges with the atmosphere.
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What?!? Solar and hydroelectricity do not. Wind power does, in a sense, but
it does not measurably affect the wind (the movement of air heated by the
sun). Fission definitely does not involve gaseous exchanges,
Everything we do involves gaseous exchanges with the atmosphere. We aren't
going to bring about an end to gaseous exchanges by replacing air breathing
vehicles with non-air breathing vehicles.
What we should be doing is researching and designing more sustainable air
breathing machines instead of
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