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As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:
There's a lot of hectarage out there that has to go back under the
plough - -- or back to Nature.
This I agree with. Cities should never be built
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Will wonders never cease!
Seriously, I never thought he would concede even this much.
Perhaps we should ask him, now that he agrees it is science, whether he
still thinks he Zimmerman were wise to root and fire anyone who
believes in cold fusion and whether he now
The show Brink on the Science Discovery channel did a short 7 minute
**positive** piece on Cold Fusion at 10 pm Friday night (last night).
http://science.discovery.com/
here is the schedule of a repeat of the show
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Sunday Mar 29, 5:00 am 30 min(s)
Jeff Driscoll wrote:
The show Brink on the Science Discovery channel did a short 7 minute
**positive** piece on Cold Fusion at 10 pm Friday night (last night).
That's great! Could you summarize the main points?
If someone recorded this with a DVR I would appreciate it if you could
upload it
V,
Since there's apparently little to no interest in
learning what I found re: the Morton effect, or what
I've done/am doing with Laithwaite's inertial
propulsion work, or discussing faster than light
travel, implications thereof (resistance to in
sci-community/effects and/or testability of
Steven Krivit wrote:
Jed,
I share your amazement. Generally the prediction goes that they never
concede, they take their views with them to the grave.
When I first heard that Voodoo Bob conceded reality of LENR behind closed
doors at a DoE meeting on Dec. 12, 2006 I tried to contact him. He
Being a young American citizen is a crime now, I
suppose.
Where have you been? Being a kid has involved a significant lack of
the normal human rights you normally get the moment you turn 18 for a
LONG while now.
and, this has been in the works for FOREVER.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Kyle
--- leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote:
Being a young American citizen is a crime now, I
suppose.
Where have you been? Being a kid has involved a
significant lack of
the normal human rights you normally get the moment
you turn 18 for a
LONG while now.
Well, I was mostly referring
Dave Nagel is a friend of Robert Park. I have a photo him and Scott Chubb
having lunch with Park, just before ICCF-14 . Park looking mighty
uncomfortable, having just turned down an invitation to the conference. I
wrote to Dave:
[I think you should ask Park] if he now retracts the attacks on
I don't know why people are getting worked up about O's national service
proposal: plenty of countries have or have had that. The US had a draft from
1940 to around 1972 and it didn't destroy liberty.
Americans need to get in line, toe the line, keep quiet, and obey orders. That
sort of
Consider the position Park has created for himself. He encouraged the
destruction of the reputations for two scientists who made one of the
most important discoveries of this century. He delayed development of
an energy source that can solve some of the most important threats to
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 07:29:08AM -0700, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
Since there's apparently little to no interest in
learning what I found re: the Morton effect, or what
I've done/am doing with Laithwaite's inertial
propulsion work,
Kyle, I haven't read all of your posts, but if you achieve
Americans need to get in line, toe the line, keep quiet, and obey orders.
Ohh no no no. No we don't. But being forced to think of other
people, and a bit of self discipline would be a good thing.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Rhong Dhong rongdon...@yahoo.com wrote:
I don't know why people
.. Optimistic article from feedBlitz yesterday to counter the drone of
negativism being echoed by Rush-Bimbo-Con's vacuous peanut gallery.
http://feedblitz.com/r.asp?l=38659312f=64651u=14554671 Sorry
Collapsitarians, Doomers and Dystopians a Full Collapse Will Not Happen
Former President
One can only hope. More than likely, however, by the time Mr. Park's reputation
is damaged by being the Grand Inquisitor for the American Physical Society,
he'll be dead and no one will remember him.
M.
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bob Park now calls it
--- Rhong Dhong rongdon...@yahoo.com wrote:
I don't know why people are getting worked up about
O's national service proposal: plenty of countries
have or have had that. The US had a draft from 1940
to around 1972 and it didn't destroy liberty.
1. We are not other countries. If we can't
--- Mark S Bilk m...@cosmicpenguin.com wrote:
Kyle, I haven't read all of your posts, but if you
achieve
positive results in any alternative physics areas,
by
all means tell us (and post the complete details of
the
apparatus to hundreds of lists, in order to preserve
your
life).
Kyle, you do cool stuff. Your posts about stuff you've done are always
interesting, sometimes fascinating, often extremely entertaining. Don't
think nobody's interested, just because there are not a lot of comments!
(Politics is easier to comment on than experimental results, by the way.)
But
--- Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Kyle, you do cool stuff. Your posts about stuff
you've done are always
interesting, sometimes fascinating, often extremely
entertaining. Don't
think nobody's interested, just because there are
not a lot of comments!
(Politics is easier to
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
``However, there is something which you *should* find
disturbing: The one time Johnson actually ran for
president (after Kennedy was assassinated and Johnson's
partial term ran out) he ran on an anti-war platform.
Think about that. And think about what Johnson
Kyle Mcallister wrote:
--- Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Kyle, you do cool stuff. Your posts about stuff
you've done are always
interesting, sometimes fascinating, often extremely
entertaining. Don't
think nobody's interested, just because there are
not a lot of comments!
V,
Alright. I will try this again, and we'll see...what
we can see.
WHAT HAS GONE BEFORE
Charles Morton reported an effect (a series of
effects, actually, but we will only concentrate on
this one) wherein a beam of force of an unusual nature
is generated by a high voltage discharge coming from
Kyle McAllister Writes:
+++
Excuse me. I am in line. I do the best I can... I /TOW/ the line. I pay my
taxes...I help people...I give ...We bought...and gave it...I drive...barely
make ends meet, and yet I gave...
fuck you...Take your discipline,...shove it...
+++
You sound like a fine
Rhong Dhong wrote:
Kyle McAllister Writes:
+++
Excuse me. I am in line. I do the best I can... I /TOW/ the line. I pay my taxes...I help people...I give ...We bought...and gave it...I drive...barely make ends meet, and yet I gave...
fuck you...Take your "discipline,"...shove it...
+++
You
Wow.
Guys, put the pipes down. Stop the bubbles. Your dealers cut it with
some REALLY nasty crap.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, J. Klum jk...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Rhong Dhong wrote:
Kyle McAllister Writes:
+++
Excuse me. I am in line. I do the best I can... I /TOW/ the line. I pay my
Kyle Mcallister wrote:
--- Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
[snip previously addressed parts]
On the other hand, if *you* want to test his claims, I'm interested
in reading about what you've done; your writeups are nearly always
worth reading and you are apparently an honest
In reply to Rhong Dhong's message of Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:04:47 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
I don't know why people are getting worked up about O's national service
proposal: plenty of countries have or have had that. The US had a draft from
1940 to around 1972 and it didn't destroy liberty.
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:11:47 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
But inertial propulsion systems proposed here don't work with parts
moving at relativistic speeds -- or at any rate nothing I've seen
mentioned recently in this group did. But maybe I'm just confused about
Jeff,
Thanks for the heads up. Positive. How about that. Hell freezes over.
I'm still searching for clip online...I think it will show up...soon...
If you go here http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/03/24/cold-fusion.html
underneath the triple track image youl'll see
you let us know when it involves free energy research in garages. or
planting trees+hemp.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:21 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, there has been discussion of a draft like thing that involves
either civil service, military service, or college.
On Sat,
Hi Kyle,
To what degree is the spark discharge in-line ?
Colin
- Original Message -
From: Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Morton effect, take two
snip
The sparks produced
were dazzlingly bright,
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:11:47 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
But inertial propulsion systems proposed here don't work with parts
moving at relativistic speeds -- or at any rate nothing I've seen
mentioned recently in this group did.
Edmund Storms wrote:
Why would you expect Park to accelerate this loss of credibility by
acknowledging that he was wrong? Eventually, history and the cold fusion
community will insure that he gets the reputation he tried to give
Fleischmann and Pons.
Expect? Do I expect him to do this?!? To
- Original Message -
From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Crazy?
Indeed, there has been discussion of a draft like thing that involves
either civil service, military service, or college.
do you get to choose what you study at
lets eat!
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:52 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow.
Guys, put the pipes down. Stop the bubbles. Your dealers cut it with
some REALLY nasty crap.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, J. Klum jk...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Rhong Dhong wrote:
Kyle McAllister
In reply to grok's message of Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:24:21 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
There's a lot of hectarage out there that has to go back under the
plough - -- or back to Nature.
This I agree with. Cities should never be built on potential farm land.
They should be built in deserts, or on
Scott Chubb wrote to me:
The ACS meeting symposium, and the deliberate but forthright coverage of
what happened were refreshing. Mitchell Swartz and I (along with a panel,
including Jan Marwan, Steve Krivit, Pam Boss, Antonella DeNinno, Chino
Srinivasan, and John Dash) appeared on the local NBC
To clarify,
KSL-TV, channel 5 covered the ACS press conference
That link (and many others) is here
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2009/ACS/MediaClips.shtml
Interesting about Ch5 is the correspondent was Ed Yeates, who covered the
1989 pc.
ACS streamed and archived the pc too.
Those
--- Rhong Dhong rongdon...@yahoo.com wrote:
I assume you are talking about the HitlerJugend. Boy
scouts from what I hear. Got the kids into clean
country air, got them to clear brush, live in tents,
take responsibility.
Just what O wants to do.
Stop being part of the problem and start
--- Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Why?
Dunno -- maybe because it takes no thought, it's
just regurgitating
opinions which one already has.
I guess. It is more rewarding, I think, to do
experiments, however. Even if they don't do anything
revolutionary (most never will, and
--- Colin Quinney crq...@rogers.com wrote:
Hi Kyle,
To what degree is the spark discharge in-line ?
Colin
Do you mean, how straight is it? Not sure exactly what
you mean in line with?
--Kyle
Zachary Jones wrote:
nice show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRz0a2qiCtcfeature=channel_page
Why does the gas production rotate?
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 01:24:22PM -0700, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
...
A pulse of air, it seemed, was jetted from the hole,
once per spark, and could be felt physically impacting
against my skin at almost 2 feet away. It was in a
very thin beam. It did not pass through metal or
plastic, but would
- Original Message -
From: Steven Krivit stev...@newenergytimes.com
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:59 am
Subject: [Vo]:American Chemical Society Ink
BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7959183.stm
In terms of his influence is Frank Close the Bob Park of England?
Harry
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:40:19 -0500 (CDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Zachary Jones wrote:
nice show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRz0a2qiCtcfeature=channel_page
Why does the gas production rotate?
Read my previous post on the topic.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
I should have said straighter.. Yes. What could you utilize to make it
straighter?
I guess I am hypothesizing that possibility that the Morton gravity pulse
and the Podkletnov gravity pulse are the same, but just **significantly**
different in magnitude.
The Podkletnov spark had surrounding
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Steven Krivit wrote:
Jed,
I share your amazement. Generally the prediction goes that they
never concede, they take their views with them to the grave.
When I first heard that Voodoo Bob conceded reality of LENR behind
closed doors at a DoE meeting on
Rhong Dhong wrote:
I don't know why people are getting worked up about O's national service proposal:
Americans need to get in line, toe the line, keep quiet, and obey orders. That
sort of discipline would do wonders for them.
O's proposal is a step in the right direction.
Seig
Mark S Bilk wrote:
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 07:29:08AM -0700, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
Since there's apparently little to no interest in
learning what I found re: the Morton effect, or what
I've done/am doing with Laithwaite's inertial
propulsion work,
Kyle, I haven't read all of your
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