In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:12:17 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
to the interaction of the strong force. This loss of potential
energy does not prevent electron capture of the now energetically
trapped electron, if capture occurs very fast, because that electron
initially
On 2011-04-14 01:16, Jed Rothwell wrote:
[...] We could organize this info in a Wiki, with categories: Materials,
Operation method, Performance characteristics . . . [...]
This is a good idea and I was thinking exactly about it yesterday when I
sent that list to the group. The end result
On 2011-04-12 17:00, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I do not think he is more unwilling than usual.
Sorry for replying here only now.
The reason behind what I've written is that I'm noticing as time passes
that the amount of Can't answer and Already answered answers on his
blog has been increasing as
Spintronics-website is broken, so is there an actual url for this?
(Preferably newsreporting article)
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
FYI:
Professor Ron Naaman from the Weizmann Institute in Israel and scientists
in Germany discovered that
SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
The reason behind what I've written is that I'm noticing as time passes
that the amount of Can't answer and Already answered answers on his blog
has been increasing as of late. The latter especially looks like a
convenient way to avoid
Horace,
Not problematic at all! That is exactly what my theory predicts. The
energy deficits of deflation fusion prevent isomers form forming and thus
(large) gammas. The combination of strong force reactions with large energy
deficits followed by weak reactions when feasible makes for
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
More probably this means that the catalyst is in homogeneous i.e. liquid
phase- a solution or a melt which covers the Ni powder (it happens at
350-450 deg Celsius)
Peter
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Terry
The missing Gamma radiation in the Rossi demo and comments by Focardi has me
revisiting the assumed lack of isolation between dimensions. We know from the
twin paradox that
People and objects in different inertial frame are locally unaware of their
vector angle between time and space and any
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
ANSWER: THE PUMP IS A PERISTALTIC PUMP. THE FLOW OF WATER HAS BEEN
MEASURED BEFORE TURNING ON THE REACTOR BY THE PROFESSORS WHO MADE
THE TEST, BY OPENING THE CIRCUIT AND CHRONOMETRING THE AMOUNT OF WATER
THAT FILLED UP A RESERVOIR OF 1 LITER.
Note that the flow
Horace
Let's look at 58Ni specifically which is over 2/3 of all nickel
* The energy deficits for Ni are all huge. For example (energy deficits in
square brackets):
58Ni28 + p* -- 59Cu29 * + 3.419 MeV [-6.329 MeV] -- 59Ni28 + neutrino +
~2.6 MeV
Ok, as I interpret your theory,
I wrote:
I think this refers to the Jan. 14 test. What Rossi is saying here is that
they left the reservoir on a weight scale (as you see in the photos), and
they measured the total reduction in weight over the course of the run. This
method is as good as collecting the output flow.
Okay,
Robin, Harry,
Just to clarify some of my ramblings...
My use of the term alchemy was an oversimplified reference to the
desire to transmute common elements into valuable elements... i.e. the
desire to transmute lead into gold. The point I was trying to imply
is that the old-world alchemical
Esa:
Here's a different 'laymans' article:
http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=20812.php
Here's the article abstract on the Science website:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/894
In electron-transfer processes, spin effects normally are seen either in
magnetic materials or in
Hello group,
In answer to a question from a concerned person regarding water flow
measurements during the last Rossi E-cat test/demonstration, Hanno Essén
added, perhaps unconsciously, that there will be a follow-up experiment
next week. Here's the original email as posted by him on an
Quality control in cold fusion.
Cold fusion has suffered from little or no quality control on the materials
used in its reactions.
I believe that Rossi’s big accomplishment is bringing quality control to the
fabrication of his materials.
After Rossi finally discovered what factors made his
I've answered some of the arguments to the Torello fake in the latest
version :
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v318.php
The Jan/Feb experiment reports say they did NOT check the end of the
outlet pipe.
The March experiment says they DID make a visual check.
I did the calculations
Perhaps you are right regarding Rossi's quality control efforts,
but I want to ask you- on what basis are you speaking
about NiO and not Ni?
As regarding Pd based clasical LENR/CF a total characterization
of say Pd cathodes is much too complex- beyond what is called
usually quality controll.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps you are right regarding Rossi's quality control efforts,
but I want to ask you- on what basis are you speaking
about NiO and not Ni?
As regarding Pd based clasical LENR/CF a total characterization
of say Pd
Dear Jed,
In most European languages (e.g. German, Dutch, Italian, French,
Spanish) 100,000 mg means actually 100.000 mg and vice versa.
It is the English language that is in this case the odd one out, which
causes sometime hilarious conversions!
B.t.w. Rossi would otherwise probably have
On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Not problematic at all! That is exactly what my theory predicts.
The energy deficits of deflation fusion prevent isomers form
forming and thus (large) gammas. The combination of strong force
reactions with large energy deficits
Thanks for the explication. I was not aware that an electron could be
trapped like that, but as you say - everyone looks at the shadows on the
cave wall from a different perspective.
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
How does a fast electron not produce gamma radiation?
Keep in
Man on Bridges manonbrid...@aim.com wrote:
In most European languages (e.g. German, Dutch, Italian, French, Spanish)
100,000 mg means actually 100.000 mg and vice versa.
I am reviewing these statements. I now think he meant there are milligram
level amounts of nuclear-active Ni. There is
Rossi now says the minimum power of his device is 2.5 kW. If that is
true, it would be a good idea to study other materials such as Pd-D. I
believe they can be made much smaller than this, probably down to the
milliwatt level. (As things stand, researchers have difficulty making
them work
There are some interesting new remarks here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Energy_Catalyzer#Response_by_Mats_Lewan
This is a look at the mindset of a reporter describing the Rossi story and
cold fusion in general. Here is a witty quote:
You know, I’m a journalist. I’m looking for news.
The power of an Rossi devices is proportional to the quantity of active NI
(NAE) if 50 grams give X, 5 grams will give approximately X/10 watts.
See e.g. Steve Krivit's writing about Piantelli- small generators.
From practical reasons, Rossi does not manufacture generators smaller than
2.5 kW but
Piantelii is my good friend but I do not remember that he has worked with
nickel oxide.
The problem with NiO is that it will be reduced with H2 and the formed water
will build a great pressure in the cell. Not a problem that cannot be
solved- e.g. the Cincinnati zircoanium group cell I have worked
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
It is awesome that 100 g of any material can produce 15 kW to 130 kW. If
only a tiny fraction of it -- a few milligrams -- is active, that goes
beyond awesome.
Well, there *is* this stuff called antimatter. :-)
T
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Horace
I wrote:
Let’s look at 58Ni specifically which is over 2/3 of all nickel
The energy deficits for Ni are all huge. For example (energy
deficits in square brackets):
58Ni28 + p* -- 59Cu29 * + 3.419 MeV [-6.329 MeV] --
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
From practical reasons, Rossi does not manufacture generators smaller than
2.5 kW but I don't see any reasons they cannot be much smaller.
I do not see any reason either, but a few days ago he said the minimum size
is 2.5 kW. I do not think he meant
Not sure if this helps or not, but many metal oxide surfaces present a
Lawandy-type dielectric for accumulation of ultra dense hydrogen IRH. This
has been seen on zirconia, iron-oxide and nickel-oxide. This paper by Miley
is very important.
www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHclusterswi.pdf
Piantelii stated he will hide the secret of Ni-H reaction, even from a good
friend.
Rossi has denied every mode of Ni catalytic activity except oxides.
NiO-H has a role in many hydrogen based catalytic reactions with a highly
reactive nano-particle surface. And oxide based nano-particle
I am an engineer have 40 years practice in chemical industry and I was
professor of Management of Technology for 3 years in a school of
Ecomanagement for directors, managers. Therefore I am not ready to believe
such an statement - why exactly 2.5 Kw and not 1.8 or 3.2? I am sure Rossi
can
I wrote:
Rossi has a highly original, bold, and idiosyncratic world view. He also has
idiosyncratic ways of expressing himself. So does Arata.
By the way, that would be true of Rossi even in the unlikely event he turns
out to be a con man with a fake device. No con man in history has done
On Apr 14, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Thanks for the explication.
You're welcome.
I was not aware that an electron could be
trapped like that, but as you say - everyone looks at the shadows
on the
cave wall from a different perspective.
Yes.
The trapping energy is
What forum was this on?
From: SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 9:00:32 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Hanno Essén: follow up experiment next week
Hello group,
In answer to a question from a concerned person
i would not ask the secrets of a good friend. But about his performances
yes! And therefore I knew that Ni-H works, therefore Rossi's E-Cat is real
and..works.
Catalitically active oxides work at the interface with the real catalyst in
heterogeneous catalysis.
Do you say NiO is not reduced to
On 2011-04-14 21:33, noone noone wrote:
What forum was this on?
This one:
http://www.energeticambiente.it/fusione-fredda-e-trasmutazioni-nucleari-bassa-energia/
There are a few regularly updated threads scattered around there about
Rossi's E-Cat.
Cheers,
S.A.
It is really esential to not mix the points of view.
For example I wnt to continue surfing and discussing but is is past 23.00
and will sleep. See you tomorrow.
peter
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I wrote:
Rossi has a highly original, bold, and
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
I am an engineer have 40 years practice in chemical industry and I was
professor of Management of Technology for 3 years in a school of
Ecomanagement for directors, managers. Therefore I am not ready to believe
such an statement . . .
That's good. A
interesting anti E-cat at Daniele's blog..
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
On Apr 14, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
As regarding Pd based clasical LENR/CF a total characterization
of say Pd cathodes is much too complex- beyond what is called
usually quality controll. Terrible difficulties of describing
metallurgy, morphology, granularity etc.We have to
Horace sez:
...
As to Rossi, his quality control rested with the only person with the skills
to produce his nickel catalyst mix, an old man in his 80's working away on
an old machine. My imagination sees this happening in a poorly lit room
somewhere in a decaying rustic European building.
?MIGHT the notion that the ubiquitous/all permeating 'Super-M-Brane' IS the
HyperSpaceTorsion Transversal CarrierWave as a COMPRESSED DATA SHEET tend to
possibly indicate that this hyper-compressed-data/TORSION-ENERGY-DENSE
Super-M-Data Matrix may impinge upon and thereby dictate/replicate
I found it!
Mind if I post the link?
From: SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 9:00:32 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Hanno Essén: follow up experiment next week
Hello group,
In answer to a question from a concerned
On 2011-04-14 22:02, Peter Gluck wrote:
interesting anti E-cat at Daniele's blog..
Here's a link to his blog (in Italian) for the clueless:
http://22passi.blogspot.com/
By the way, I've read much worse things (mean, irrational, plain
ignorant, etc) around from people discrediting Rossi's
On 2011-04-14 22:16, noone noone wrote:
I found it!
Mind if I post the link?
It's a public website after all, go ahead.
Cheers,
S.A.
I should have noted some of my comments on metallic glasses can be
found here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg41599.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg43171.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg29520.html
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:24:45 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
15 kW for 18 hours at 5 MeV / reaction equates to 120 mg of Nickel. IOW the
amount that would actually react is 120 mg.
Man on Bridges manonbrid...@aim.com wrote:
In most European languages (e.g. German, Dutch,
Concerning my ZPE inventions. I have been advised by an attorney that the best
protection from infringement is to start by issuing inexpensive licenses that
expire. Make it cheaper to pay for a license than for a lawsuit to try,
perhaps unsuccessfully to steal it. These licenses can be
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
15 kW for 18 hours at 5 MeV / reaction equates to 120 mg of Nickel. IOW the
amount that would actually react is 120 mg.
I gather you are suggesting that much of the Ni will eventually react,
but in the 18-hour experiment only 120 mg did react. The rest is
unburned
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:26:38 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
How does a fast electron not produce gamma radiation? Is there an example of
beta decay that does not register on a sensitive meter? My unsophisticated
meters pick up beta decays from bananas! And I've noticed that
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:35:56 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Anyway, even if we can get past that one, the next problem resolves to the
59Ni and that large amount of 'real' energy 2.6 MeV. Even if most of the
energy were carried away by the neutrino, most of the time - in
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:35:56 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
This isotope is commonly used in medicine
IIRC, with a well-known Auger emission cascade on EC which Levi would have
immediately recognized. This is the most problematic of all, given Rossi's
lack of radioactivity in
Hello group,
A human translation in English of the interview to Sergio Focardi linked
here several days ago has been posted on Daniele Passerini's 22passi blog:
http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/04/sergio-focardi-father-of-ni-h-cold.html
By request of the original interviewers and because the
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Aluminum foil will stop beta radiation (and look how thin it is).
Sure - and stopping the electron produces bremsstrahlung - easily detected,
and you seem to be underestimating the capability of detectors.
Fast electrons are not very
At 09:09 PM 4/12/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I've updated http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v317.php
to include a fake which was actually proposed back in February :
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg42228.html
Although not likely I rate it as NOT ELIMINATED by
Robin,
Very little ??? No way !!!
You and Horace seem to making the same error with the 59Ni situation in
cherry picking data. LOTS of copper was seen in the Swedish test. An
incredible percentage, since Rossi says no copper is added.
We're talking grams of copper converted from nickel, if
Robin FYI,
If you look at http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/cgi-bin/decay?Ni-59%20EC you will
see
that the decay of Ni-59 involves electron capture
Correct - as I had already mentioned.
(with no visible signature because the energy is all carried by the
neutrino) 6.3 times out of 10. The
I assume this part is accurately translated:
So there were two parallel lines of research: on one side, the deuterium
and palladium people, who never got anything . . .
I have heard he feels that way. Maybe he means they have made little
progress toward technology, which is true, but I get the
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
I'll say it, Rossi is probably real.
I would say almost certainly real.
But I and everyone else can, sometimes, be fooled. The only way to totally
avoid being fooled would be to believe nobody, and even then, we'd fool
ourselves, and we'd
Isn't it ironic in a way, since you have said before that Arata shares a
similar level of vanity ?
Arata probably considers himself the father of nanoparticle LENR . without
which, Ni-H might not be possible.
. so who's you daddy ?
From: Jed Rothwell
So there were two parallel lines
At 07:54 PM 4/14/2011, Jones Beene wrote:
The long half life means it should be VERY evident.
There should be massive radioactivity from any such reaction, and yet there
is none.
Whatever is allowing the nuclear reaction may also accelerate the
decay of unstable elements; LENR is fairly well
There is a lot of meat in this report. Read it carefully. A lot of food for
thought. And for gossip!
Focardi clearly says that the Cu isotopes are NOT natural. This contradicts
Essen, as noted here. Mass spectroscopy can be tricky, that's all I know. I
have seen many similar disagreements about
Using the decay equation:
N(t)=N0 * 2^(-t/t_0.5)
where N0 = number of atoms initially, N(t) = number of atoms
remaining after time t, and t_0.5 is the half life, we see that the
proportion of atoms remaining after time t, R(t) is given by:
R(t) = N(t)/N0 = 2^(-t/t_0.5)
and the
Horace's comments indicate that a lot of overlapping RD from many sources
can be relevant to LENR, even without Arata's work being specifically
featured.
BTW - Takahashi made a presentation on his Arata replications at the
American Chemical Society meeting in Anaheim CA recently (last month).
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Isn’t it ironic in a way, since you have said before that Arata shares a
similar level of vanity ?
Yup. I would hate to bring those two together.
Arata probably considers himself the father of nanoparticle LENR … without
which, Ni-H might not be
Jed wrote [snip]
Focardi says some things that are supposed to be confidential. I will leave
it to the reader to find those bits, as an exercise. He's got a big mouth.
I'll bet this ruffles some feathers![/snip]
Focardi says and then there's this chemical compound. The issue came up
during
In reply to Wm. Scott Smith's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:13:42 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
If they immediately have virtually free energy, but no new goods and services
have been already developed, the economy will feel the extra money; this will
cause inflation.
If I understand inflation correctly,
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:50:39 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
How long would it take if Mills is correct? Does this rapid falling off in
the reaction indicate that the hydrogen is consumed much faster than in a
conventional nuclear reaction?
It well may. If a fast cloning
In reply to francis 's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:26:42 -0400:
Hi,
Not necessarily. It could be producing an x-ray spectrum due to stimulation by
ionizing radiation produced elsewhere.
[snip]
Jed wrote [snip]
Focardi says some things that are supposed to be confidential. I will leave
it
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