[Vo]:

Dear members of our scientific community, Please read: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/12/informavores-sunday-no-485.html This comes after a sad week- two contributors of our science-in-development have passed away- still young, bright Yan and my friend, Talbot-- it was always a pleasure t

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

So you did not read the last 2 pages? Where an expert in steam quality, measured and made adjustments in the order of -2% to the energy output. There was no invalidation, no matter how much you wish there was. On 12/11/2011 5:38 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Terry Blan

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

You need to watch and read the subtitles in this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4JUJhkpc3I especially when Celani starts talking around 23:20. He states he observed short Gamma bursts as the reactor was starting up and as it shut down. Also claimed a 50% non steady state increase in bac

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > I can't access that paper at the moment -- the site > > returns an "account suspended" error. > > He just needs to buy bytes. But Jed posted the Levi report here: > > http://www.lenr-

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > I can't access that paper at the moment -- the site > returns an "account suspended" error. He just needs to buy bytes. But Jed posted the Levi report here: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LeviGreportonhe.pdf T

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > They used a WATTS UP Pro Es power meter and recorded input power every 8 > second via a USB port to the PC: > http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Levi,%20Bianchini%20and%20Villa%20Reports.pdfAs > for the hold button, you think

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

They used a WATTS UP Pro Es power meter and recorded input power every 8 second via a USB port to the PC: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Levi,%20Bianchini%20and%20Villa%20Reports.pdf As for the hold button, you think that NONE of these people do not know that or NONE would find

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > You can clearly see in the video there were a volt meter and amp meter at > the wall plug measuring the energy delivered to the Blue Box and another > set between the Blue Box and the E-Cat. According to the Higgins data, > power input was

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > > The same thing applies to the earlier Kullander test / demo. Those guys > were not fools. They would have been looking for any sign of fraud. They > found none. In the end, Rossi removed all the insulation so they could see > there was n

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

You can clearly see in the video there were a volt meter and amp meter at the wall plug measuring the energy delivered to the Blue Box and another set between the Blue Box and the E-Cat. According to the Higgins data, power input was measured many times during the self sustain mode. Are you sug

Re: [Vo]:Duplicating Rossi is not worthwhile

On Dec 10, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Better to spend time seeking that than debating the ridiculous. The odds of success may be small, but the payoff is vastly greater. You just made Tinker Bell's light a bit brighter

Re: [Vo]:Duplicating Rossi is not worthwhile

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > Better to spend time seeking that than debating the ridiculous. The odds of > success may be small, but the payoff is vastly greater. You just made Tinker Bell's light a bit brighter! :-) T

[Vo]:Duplicating Rossi is not worthwhile

Duplicating Rossi's setup is not worthwhile. If he is not a fraud it is likely Rossi has something extraordinary. If there is a reasonable chance of actually duplicating that, or something similar, then that is worthwhile. However success along those lines, developing a commercial qualit

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Am 11.12.2011 01:57, schrieb David Roberson: Peter, don't you think your statement is a little extreme? I suspect you should have more evidence before you condemn everyone who believes in this field? Now, I am not a fanatic believer, but often I tend to believe, it should be possible. I dont

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Peter, don't you think your statement is a little extreme? I suspect you should have more evidence before you condemn everyone who believes in this field? Dave -Original Message- From: Peter Heckert To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:32 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate R

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Am 11.12.2011 01:46, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: This is silly. There was a clamp on amp meter on the mains cord and on the heater wires going into the E-Cat. Power consumption was recorded during the self power run. Refer to the Higgins data. Are you suggesting that during the self powering peri

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

This is silly. There was a clamp on amp meter on the mains cord and on the heater wires going into the E-Cat. Power consumption was recorded during the self power run. Refer to the Higgins data. Are you suggesting that during the self powering period NONE of the MANY people in the room would ha

[Vo]:Another Nipponese Reactor Leak

Not at Fukushima Dai-ichi: http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/10/world/asia/japan-nuke-leak/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 "(CNN) -- Radioactive water leaked inside a nuclear power plant in southwestern Japan, but there was no impact on the surrounding area, a spokesman for the plant operator said Saturday. A

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Am 11.12.2011 00:53, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: You should know, I have said it can be done with a secret wireless heater switch and/or with a vacuum sucking out water. I suggest you prove that. Build something with wires large enough to produce this much heat yet which rema

[Vo]:Yan Kucherov dies

Oy veh. I heard this but I forgot to report it here. See: http://obit.jeffersonfuneralchapel.com/obitdisplay.html?id=999602 - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Talbot Chubb dies

Did he have any opinion on Rossi's device? Or on Ni+H reactions in general? What was it? 2011/12/10 Jed Rothwell > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > That's sad! His long time collaborator also passed away this year. Were >> they relatives since both were Chubb? > > > Talbot was Scott's uncle. > > He was

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Peter Heckert wrote: > You should know, I have said it can be done with a secret wireless heater > switch and/or with a vacuum sucking out water. > I suggest you prove that. Build something with wires large enough to produce this much heat yet which remain invisible when people open the reactor

Re: [Vo]:Talbot Chubb dies

Daniel Rocha wrote: That's sad! His long time collaborator also passed away this year. Were > they relatives since both were Chubb? Talbot was Scott's uncle. He was very old. He attended his granddaughter's wedding last year. At the NRL there is a conference hall with photos from the 1940s. Ta

Re: [Vo]:The assumption that Rossi is right is made for the sake of argument

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Really, Jed? You acknowledge the possibility of error or fraud, and just > assume it's all real "for the sake of argument"? > You misunderstand. This is not about my beliefs. I expect *other people*who take part in an academic discussion to accept assertions for the

Re: [Vo]:Talbot Chubb dies

That's sad! His long time collaborator also passed away this year. Were they relatives since both were Chubb? BTW, his theory is the best I could find and was the most economical in using new physics, which is why it was my favorite... I am new to LENR field, but it doesn't seem people acknowledge

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Am 11.12.2011 00:04, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: By this, I mean to make devices as similar as possible as Rossi's and to show that the experimental results K&E and Lewan got could be obtained by mismeasurement rather than LENR heat production. Possibly it is sufficient to te

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: > I don't think it would be considered a nuclear device. Calling it a nuclear device would be the utmost irony! "Sorry, you cannot being that nuclear device into the US." "Uh, no, there is no such thing as a cold fusion nuclear device." Stu

Re: [Vo]:Jeds comment on Polywater...well...

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Couldn’t agree more Ron… Water is strange. Here is a great web site on its anomalous properties: http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/anmlies.html including information provided by a former Vort, Frank Grimer: http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Peter Heckert wrote: > > By this, I mean to make >> devices as similar as possible as Rossi's and to show that the >> experimental >> results K&E and Lewan got could be obtained by mismeasurement rather than >> LENR heat production. >> > Possibly it is sufficient to test the heat exchanger. > No

Re: [Vo]:Talbot Chubb dies

Sorry to hear that ... and I'd just included a batch of Chubb papers in my reading list, so he was fresh on my mind. - Original Message - > Dennis Cravens just told me: > "I was just informed that Talbot Chubb just passed away (Dec 10). - > Jed

[Vo]:Talbot Chubb dies

Dennis Cravens just told me: "I was just informed that Talbot Chubb just passed away (Dec 10). I remember fondly of our discussions of band states and he helped get me started looking at Pd on crystals and high Gibbs free compounds. I will miss him and our monthly talks on the phone. He was a goo

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:53 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Daniel Rocha > wrote: > Why should it be in a populated area? > > Far as I know, all of Massachusetts is a populated area. And you > can't make nuclear devices in the US without all sorts of per

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] elephant in the living room

Why does everyone disparage the unicorns? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1025793/The-horned-deer-solve-mystery-unicorn.html Which evidence is more credible? Alain Sepeda wrote: >first of all if I prepare an NiH-Bomb to destroy texas and saudi arabia, >I have no incentive to prove i'm

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] elephant in the living room

first of all if I prepare an NiH-Bomb to destroy texas and saudi arabia, I have no incentive to prove i'm right... the opposite, I will try to maintain doubt not to frighten the chicken before the lunch. I just wait the bomb to work, and the client to pay when Texas is vitrified. Second if I'm th

Re: [Vo]:Das Spiegel Article

Am 10.12.2011 23:03, schrieb Alan Fletcher: http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,801836,00.html (google translate is tolerable) Not TOO bad ... of course, they call a Plasma Physicist at Max Planck Institute to say the mandatory "defies the laws of physics". This will reach many r

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

Am 10.12.2011 23:06, schrieb Alan Fletcher: With the 1:40 primary:secondary flows there's most likely not a problem. And any problems (steam not condensed) would give a lower calculated power (as pointed out, in Rossi's -- ie less likely fake-- favour.) The question is, if it works in horicont

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

With the 1:40 primary:secondary flows there's most likely not a problem. And any problems (steam not condensed) would give a lower calculated power (as pointed out, in Rossi's -- ie less likely fake-- favour.) - Original Message - > It should be tested, if this exchanger can handle the c

[Vo]:Das Spiegel Article

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,801836,00.html (google translate is tolerable) Not TOO bad ... of course, they call a Plasma Physicist at Max Planck Institute to say the mandatory "defies the laws of physics".

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

Am 10.12.2011 22:46, schrieb Robert Leguillon: But the "E" class is listed specifically as a single-phase heat exchanger. Does it double as a condenser? http://www.swep.net/index.php?tpl=products-ranges&lang=en&id=352 I dont know, if this matters. Possibly it has only to do withthe pressure.

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

But the "E" class is listed specifically as a single-phase heat exchanger. Does it double as a condenser? http://www.swep.net/index.php?tpl=products-ranges&lang=en&id=352 Peter Heckert wrote: >Am 10.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Colin Hercus: >> Did you see in the specs that the heat exchanger should

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Am 10.12.2011 17:51, schrieb Mary Yugo: I wish someone had taken the considerable trouble to duplicate Rossi's small E-cat and "Ottoman" (Oct 6) experiments. By this, I mean to make devices as similar as possible as Rossi's and to show that the experimental results K&E and Lewan got could be obt

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

Am 10.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Colin Hercus: Did you see in the specs that the heat exchanger should be mounted vertically when used for phase change. Having it horizontal should reduce effectiveness and err in Rossi's favour Yes. It must be vertical. But I think the error should be in Rossi's dis

RE: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

Normally I would also agree, however, the way things are going in this country, I don't think the Fed'l govt would care one iota, and the courts either, if they regulated something that another Dept of the govt deemed impossible... hell, I think it wouldn't even need to be diff't Depts... or, they'

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

From Robert Leguillon wrote: > I contend that the action cannot be prohibited without being acknowledged. > Spot on. Thats what is so amusing about it. Svj -orionworks.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] elephant in the living room

What is not understood by many people is that when you make incredible claims it is up to the person making claims to show the claims are true and it is not up to everybody else to prove the claims are not true. Do you think if I announce a press conference about the unicorn in my basement I would

RE: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Jed: Now I see what you were shooting for: You were recommending replacing the core with the same volume of water based on specific heat. The reason that that was insufficient, is due the the total energy storage possible.Though iron has a lower volumetric heat capacity that water (3.5 Jc3/K vs

Re: [Vo]:The assumption that Rossi is right is made for the sake of argument

On 11-12-09 08:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mary Yugo mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com>> wrote: comments with the other person's, I counted 4 or 5 instances where you > repeated the same basic point, but 5 different ways. Yeah, we get it, ok? > Fine. But apparently a lot of peop

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] elephant in the living room

not giving any hint about why it is of no interest ? if they have data that it is a scam, it could be easy to spread them, even indirectly... maybe is it rather that, before doing any research they decide it does not need research, nor proof of scam, nor denial, nor communication... seems the mos

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Hi Jed, I think the simple test would be to put a 25kg block of lead (for big ecat simulation) on the gas with a pan of water on top of the lead, all well insulated. Turn on the gas and heat until the water boils. Turn off the gas and with whole container well sealed and insulated see how long the

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

Did you see in the specs that the heat exchanger should be mounted vertically when used for phase change. Having it horizontal should reduce effectiveness and err in Rossi's favour On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > The heat exchanger is Swedish, make and model: SWEP E8T-SC-

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Robert Leguillon < robert.leguil...@hotmail.com> wrote: > If there is no measurable radiation, no possession or disposal of > controlled substances, how could it be illegal (currently)? > You forget: Rossi claims gamma radiation during operation which, he says,

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] elephant in the living room

So Alain is not the most logical explanation that media, power organization of different kinds, everybody in the knowing just did their research and determine pretty quickly that Rossi's story was not worthwhile of their attention? G On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > just to

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Why do you assume that is in Massachusetts? > > Because Rossi said that was where he was planning to produce E-cats in the US. I don't think it matters. I don't think he can make nuclear fusion reactors in the US without all sorts of permi

RE: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

I'm quite curious about Mary's claim. I've only had a couple of business law classes in my years, and I would be curious: Is there really any law requiring registration of Chemically Assisted Low Energy Nuclear Reactions? If there is no measurable radiation, no possession or disposal of controll

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

Why do you assume that is in Massachusetts? 2011/12/10 Mary Yugo > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> Why should it be in a populated area? >> > > Far as I know, all of Massachusetts is a populated area. And you can't > make nuclear devices in the US without all sort

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Steven Johnson wrote: > From MY > > If Rossi is producing nuclear fusion reactors in the US, how was this >> authorized without an opportunity for public comment? > > > Strikes me as an odd comment from MY, the staunch skeptic. > > Damned if you do. Damned if you

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

Hmmm .. (Fakes hat on). Just as well that the output flow was checked, even if only intermittently. Otherwise (eg assuming the ecat was producing only hot water and no steam) one could take the whole stack apart, drill and/or plug various ports, so that the secondary outlet is a mixture of X*

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Why should it be in a populated area? > Far as I know, all of Massachusetts is a populated area. And you can't make nuclear devices in the US without all sorts of permits.

[Vo]:Re: [Vo] elephant in the living room

just to add a metaphor to the reasoning : imagine that someone present discussable, but credible, proofs of the following facts, spread on internet : - an economic 50MT H bomb in Saudi arabia, iran, texas, canada - a neutron bomb on Durban summit - economic 9/11 style terrorist attack on all ene

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

From MY > If Rossi is producing nuclear fusion reactors in the US, how was this > authorized without an opportunity for public comment? Strikes me as an odd comment from MY, the staunch skeptic. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Svj - orionworks.com

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

Why should it be in a populated area? 2011/12/10 Mary Yugo > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> If his customer is the military, perhaps he doesn't need authorization... >> >> > The military may not need authorization to use a device but he needs > authorizations galo

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > HOWEVER, if you want to do this test, and you feel the core is important, >> you should simulate it. That may mean you heat it up a core separately and >> then immerse it in the liquid. . . . >> >> This would not make the experim

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

James Bowery wrote: > Your interpretation of "begun" should be constrained by the context of the > original question in which "begun" is contrasted with "starting up". > However, your interpretation of "begun" was not so constrained. I suggest > you restate your argument with that in mind.

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > If his customer is the military, perhaps he doesn't need authorization... > > The military may not need authorization to use a device but he needs authorizations galore for a manufacturing plant/factory. For example, General Atomic near San

Re: [Vo]:Jeds comment on Polywater...well...

Ron Kita wrote: Greetings Vortex, > > Usually I am agreement with Jed, but polywater was not exactly a mistake. > I was describing the reaction of researchers who spent months working on polywater, and concluded that it was a mistake. They said that despite this, it was interesting. One said it

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

I wrote: HOWEVER, if you want to do this test, and you feel the core is important, > you should simulate it. That may mean you heat it up a core separately and > then immerse it in the liquid. . . . > > This would not make the experiment significantly more complicated, so why > not? Go for it. >

[Vo]:[Vo] elephant in the living room

Hi, I've just seen that clip about -cat & al... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmw45i_e-catalyzer-e-cat-andrea-rossi-energy-catalyzer-revolution-all-parts-1-2-3-4-5-6-10-12-11_news very positive vision, but it shows a way todays situation could be interpreted... and it raise a pointy to me, whate

RE: [Vo]:Jeds comment on Polywater...well...

Couldn't agree more Ron. I guess Jed didn't see my posting on this over a year ago regarding Dr. Gerald Pollack's talk on structured water titled, "Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge" That presentation can be seen on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVBEwn6iWOo

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

I wrote: I was leaving out the core altogether. I assume that adding any kind of > simulated core will only make the thing cool down faster. > By "thing" I mean the entire insulated vessel. The whole system. Not the core by itself. That will cool at various different rates depending on many facto

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

"Before you try to grab one sentence and ignore everything else, do you understand why your statement is wrong?" Sorry. That was a poor choice of words, condescending and terse. Robert Leguillon wrote: >"Adding the heat initially with a gas fire produces the same results as adding >it with

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

Robert Leguillon wrote: "Adding the heat initially with a gas fire produces the same results as > adding it with an electric heater." > > Jed, > Do you really not understand the difference, here? Using an external gas > heat vs. An internal heater is absolutely crucial to the argument of stored

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

"Adding the heat initially with a gas fire produces the same results as adding it with an electric heater." Jed, Do you really not understand the difference, here? Using an external gas heat vs. An internal heater is absolutely crucial to the argument of stored heat. Your statement really ma

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

If his customer is the military, perhaps he doesn't need authorization... 2011/12/10 Mary Yugo > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat < > aussieguy.e...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mr. Rossi >> >> Has production begun yet in your US facilities? Or are they still >> starting up?

Re: [Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

I believe you should do a much simpler test. As I said, an experiment is best when reduced to minimum number of components. That is, when you test the claim to its essence. You keep it "clean." Test one thing at a time, in isolation, rather than the entire range of behavior the eCat exhibits. There

[Vo]:Jeds comment on Polywater...well...

Greetings Vortex, Usually I am agreement with Jed, but polywater was not exactly a mistake. The New Scientist had an excellent article on Wacky Water..not actually polymerization , but clustering of associative mocules: http://www.fa-firmasu.com.tr/images/WACKY%20WATER.pdf Hexamer clustes etc a

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Mr. Rossi > > Has production begun yet in your US facilities? Or are they still > starting up? > Does Rossi have production facilities in the US? If so where? And how do we know? Has anyone ever been invited to see and report on

[Vo]:Why not duplicate Rossi's setups and see how they work without LENR?

I wish someone had taken the considerable trouble to duplicate Rossi's small E-cat and "Ottoman" (Oct 6) experiments. By this, I mean to make devices as similar as possible as Rossi's and to show that the experimental results K&E and Lewan got could be obtained by mismeasurement rather than LENR h

Re: [Vo]:Yo: Peter Heckert! Is a 0.1 mm gap a problem or not?

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > Mary: > > If you have a PayPal acct, I will gladly donate $20 to the cause… > > ** ** > > Just so the people funding the effort and the person performing the tests > all agree beforehand, > > Can

[Vo]:Defkalion reactor cores full on or full off only

Defkalion confirmed what we discussed here, that their reactor cores are designed for full on/full off operation ("bang-bang"). This is how conventional natural gas-fired heaters work. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4601#p4601 marksnoswell wrote: The specifications for the

Re: [Vo]:Satellite Video Captures Cloaked Klingon Ship

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I have no idea of what it is but it is not an imaging fault as it was > observed by another solar satellite. Yes it is. Look at the video taken from the opposite side of Mercury. If it was a real object, it would appear on the left han

Re: [Vo]:Satellite Video Captures Cloaked Klingon Ship

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I stripped a few frames out of the video and used Image J to create a > animated gif. > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/VdSgKfMWT81nW_FRSnO7PNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink > (it is 15 MB .gif file, you need to download it) "

[Vo]:Recycling high temperature electrolysis with metal oxide fuel cell

It occurs to me that a since high temperature electrolysisconverts steam heat to chemical energy in the form of separate flows of hydrogen and oxygen, and high temperature fuel cellsconve

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

Your interpretation of "begun" should be constrained by the context of the original question in which "begun" is contrasted with "starting up". However, your interpretation of "begun" was not so constrained. I suggest you restate your argument with that in mind. On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:03 AM,

RE: [Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

On a cautionary note: Rossi's terse response strikes me as a matter of personal interpretation. With Rossi, personal interpretation can mean a lot of different scenarios. I find myself asking, how is Rossi choosing to exploit the word "begun" in this particular case. Maybe it actually does means R

[Vo]:E-Cat production in the US has begun

1. Fyodor December 9th, 2011 at 11:08 AM Mr. Rossi Has production begun yet in your US facilities? Or are they still starting up? Thank you for taking time to answer my question 2. Andrea Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Satellite Video Captures Cloaked Klingon Ship

http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.FAQ " Q:What is causing the artifact near Mercury in 20111201_232901_tbh1A.png? Why is it rectangular? A: In these HI-1 images, a daily median is used as the best near-real-time method to get CME enhancement. This results in dark spots from pla

Re: [Vo]:Satellite Video Captures Cloaked Klingon Ship

I stripped a few frames out of the video and used Image J to create a animated gif. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/VdSgKfMWT81nW_FRSnO7PNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink (it is 15 MB .gif file, you need to download it) What I observe is:. The blackness to the right and left of Merc

Re: [Vo]:The 6 Oct Rossi test heat exchanger model

SWEP is located in Georgia too: http://www.manta.com/c/mmj7slb/swep-north-america-inc Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Tests with thermoelements and tape.

On Dec 9, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 09.12.2011 22:11, schrieb Horace Heffner: Photos are from Alan Fletcher's site, the page with the nifty FEA simulations: http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_oct11_spice.php If air bubbles are collected at the blue side, this would produ

Re: [Vo]:Tests with thermoelements and tape.

On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:30 PM, David Roberson wrote: A question that seems to need answering is: Why is the black electrical tape wound around the manifold at the location where the thermocouple would possibly hit if pushed downward by the insulation? Is there some purpose for tape in this

Re: [Vo]:Tests with thermoelements and tape.

Am 09.12.2011 22:11, schrieb Horace Heffner: Photos are from Alan Fletcher's site, the page with the nifty FEA simulations: http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_oct11_spice.php If air bubbles are collected at the blue side, this would produce rather large errors in thermal coupling: http://l