OK , Lomax, you are an expert in deception and twist and spin. I bow to
your skill and go away.
The entire list can document this time that I am letting Lomax have the last
word. I will no longer post unless asked a specific question or insulted
whether directly or in reference.
Please
Indeed. There is a Catholic school in Birmingham, UK, where the
majority of pupils are Muslim
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birminghams-catholic-school-where-90-of-the-pupils-231115
Nigel
On 31/12/2012 04:40, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Yes, Christian catholic schools are more
Robin,
The required water could be retrieved from the atmosphere during the
flight, e.g. by condensation.
I guess we need a few figures and statistics whether this is feasible
though.
On Monday, December 31, 2012, wrote:
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:54:02 +0100:
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:40 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I am fairly confident that these inventors do not claim that the electrical
energy recovered due to the returning piston is significant compared to the
mechanical output.
I haven't followed this detail up to now. Here
On 12/30/2012 11:09 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
OK, since you asked, do not call me a troll by answering this.
Genesis chapter 6 is the source of this. This passage is the reason
why God destroyed the Earth
I think this is the source of the conflict:
Epistemology dictates that all knowledge
From Jed:
...
His [Huizenga's] purpose was to preserve funding for high energy physics,
...
And that, IMO, pretty much sums it up.
As for all the other annoying shenanigans, they all strike me as just
another means to an end. Whatever works in order to squash the opposition.
If it
I think we are dealing with an entropic force that can remove entropy from
the gas at times as well as give it back in the way of charged particles
On Monday, December 31, 2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:40 PM, David Roberson
dlrober...@aol.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
my wife know that school.
it is a Jakarta dowtown secular state school...
the country is muslim, yet there is 6 religion allowed, yet mandatory (you
have to believe in one single god, with a paradise... that is the rule...
whichever it is is your choice, even if like US there are political group
I went digging through my Junk eMail folder to find what I was sure would be
a response from Mr.Jaro.
Mr. Jaro replied:
And the provocations and insults continue.
Since you are clearly incapable of conprehending simple English
prose. I will spell it out for you. I drank a total
Jed, you have it correctly.Mark Gibbs is caught up in the current pc
scientific way of demanding a theory before experimental results can be
accepted.
It is even worse than that. Consider climate science.There the theory is
preferred to the actual evidence when the two diverge.The current AR5
ah ah... good professors and very strict say my (muslim) step-child...
my (muslim) wife confirm , and me too... if catholic religion disappear, we
have to keep the schools...
in Indonesia like in france, religious schools have to enforce mixing and
non-segregation
except madrassa in indonesia
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
What irks me is when skeptics do not even bother to read the papers by
Bockris, Gerischer or McKubre
The barrier I ran into with one of the founders of the DoE was a demand
that I filter your bibliograpny down to only
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Why speculate that he would say something stupid like that?
Because I have heard it countless times from Piel, Huizenga and Many
Distinguished Scientists, including several of the ones on the 2004 DoE
panel, and most of the Jasons. This is
From Ashfield:
...
... I am puzzled by your [Jed's] statement that you have spoken to large
investors who confirm the E-Cat works
That certainly is an intriguing statement coming from Mr. Rothwell.
What's frustrating about all of this, at least from my perspective, is the
fact
This is incorrect, Jojo.
Do you have any evidence for your assertion that President Obama is a Muslim?
On Dec 30, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
His own autobiography says that he went to muslim school in Indonesia. You
can't go to muslim school unless you're muslim.
Jojo
Steven Vincent Johnson
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=from:%22OrionWorks+-+Steven+Vincent+Johnson%22wrote:
However, what is significant is that Rossi never allows his tantalizing
evidence to be independently validated.
Actually he has. The third party verification
This is incorrect, Jojo.
Do you have any evidence for your assertion that President Obama is a Muslim?
On Dec 30, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
His own autobiography says that he went to muslim school in Indonesia. You
can't go to muslim school unless you're muslim.
Jojo
Thanks, Jojo, I appreciate your response to my query.
It seems to me that you have faith that Genesis is literally accurate. How did
you find your way to this faith? Was it difficult? Easy? How unshakeable is
your faith?
Again,thank you for your response.
On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Jojo
That a statement is endlessly repeated does not make it true.
I posted at length on the family practices of the Arabian peninsula, as they
pertained to Christian, Jewish, and pantheistic communities, and to the
pre-revelatory emergence of Islam, which limited some of the practices that
many
I suppose that a large capacitor bank could let loose and so some damage, but
in this case I recall that mechanical shrapnel did the damage. Most likely
this was a result of the engine running at too high of a speed.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
The guy obviously has a major problem to think this way. I wonder if he will
be willing to accept that penalty should it be shown that global warming is
natural and can be mitigated in the future by relatively simple means?
Speaking of settled science
Dave
-Original Message-
The earlier posting on muslim schools is confused.
Some Muslim schools have a curriculum that is based solely on the Qur'an.
This kind of school would only attract non-Muslim students interested in the
Qur'an, or in the culture of Islam.
Some Muslim schools have a standard secular curriculum,
Jed, you are describing a gentleman that has supreme confidence in his
knowledge of physics and believes that there can be nothing new under the sun.
I consider this the height of ignorance that many attain in their lives to
their detriment. Thanks God that he was not in charge of just about
Thanks, Jojo, I appreciate your response to my query.
It seems to me that you have faith that Genesis is literally accurate. How did
you find your way to this faith? Was it difficult? Easy? How unshakeable is
your faith?
Again,thank you for your response.
On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Jojo
Salut, Alain.
Bonne nouvelle année.
Most Americans do not fear our government. A few do, and are viewed by the rest
of Americans as paranoid and living in an alternative Tea-party reality. That
reality is so bizarre, and the people who advocate it as so bizarre that they
do get a lot of
video: PULSER Plasma Engine Core: Recovering the Papp engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNSAXbZfnbE
post: Heinz Klostermann on the Papp engine: There should be a Marshall
Plan to support this
From ashfield:
However, what is significant is that Rossi never allows his tantalizing
evidence to be independently validated.
Actually he has. The third party verification of the Hot Cat was completed
a couple of weeks ago and Rossi expects the results (which he has not
seen)
to
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 8:56 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I suppose that a large capacitor bank could let loose and so some damage,
but in this case I recall that mechanical shrapnel did the damage. Most
likely this was a result of the engine running at too high of a speed.
The fact that many or most Americans do not fear the government is not
something to celebrate. The erosion of rights under the Constitution is
shocking - if most people understood or cared - and Obama has become worse than
Bush.
While Congress hotly debates budgets, just hours away from a
Indeed, lenr is no good for airplanes due to low power density and extreme cost
of onboard power generators. Same argument goes also for fission powered
airplanes, because high cost of fission reactor cannot compensate extremely
cheap jet fuel. All plans for fission/LENR planes rely on
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:10 AM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.comwrote:
Most Americans do *not* fear our government.
I think Alain has in mind the system of checks and balances in US
government -- the veto of the President, the Supreme Court striking down
legislation, etc. By and large,
Eric, you bring up a concept that has been on my mind this morning. I was
trying to come up with any way that energy could be delivered by the Papp while
leaving the gas cool. The only idea that remotely made sense was if there were
two power strokes with the design. The first one is
8:54 in is a slow motion shot showing the 1lb projectile travelling about 2
meters in about 3 frames. He also claims that the effective energy
delivered to the plasma is about 600J.
sqrt(600J/(2*lbm))?m/s
sqrt((600 * joule) / (2 * poundm)) ? meter / second
= 25.717452 m/s
30frames/sec;3
If you remember one of the Rohners talked about the coil sucking the gas
and ballon in under vacuum. Sounds entropic and maybe endothermic, at
least at times
On Monday, December 31, 2012, David Roberson wrote:
Eric, you bring up a concept that has been on my mind this morning. I was
trying
On Dec 31, 2012, at 10:40, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I was trying to come up with any way that energy could be delivered by the
Papp while leaving the gas cool.
It occurs to me now that we may have made a simple problem into a difficult
one. Our initial challenge is to find
Interesting observation.
If you watch the white box/cannon assembly (not the cardboard white box
'target'), you would think that the recoil would cause it to move backward,
in the opposite direction as the projectile (piston); in fact, the assembly
moves in the SAME direction as the
I am not sure I understand what you are suggesting. Does the piston return to
its beginning point with each cycle? If so, at least a complete loop is
covered which is the requirement.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
You have a good explanation for the lack of visible reaction away from the
projectile. The law of conservation of momentum ensures that the initial
movement of the barrel must be in the opposite direction. The amount of
movement might be small if the barrel kinetic energy is absorbed by a
Sounds like that would work Eric. My bet is on less than unity gain. I feel
like the guy Jed has been discussing at this point. I hope that my mind
remains open to a greater extent.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
I dropped off my mother at a local grocery store in Western Pa, I made these
observations within the next 40 minutes.
A man going into the store spat on the ground near the entrance.
Another man came out of the store and spat a wad of snuff in the same local.
A small child coming into the
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, lenr is no good for airplanes due to low power density and extreme
cost of onboard power generators.
I do not think so. Cold fusion power density has sometimes been as high as
a fission reactor core, which is high enough for an aircraft
Consider though that inspiration is very vital to uplifting humanity.
Nothing is more inspirational in my books than reaching literally for the
stars.
A bigger picture might be just what they are lacking.
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
I dropped off my mother at a
Why use water vapor and chlorine in the Papp gas mix? It may all come down
to negative ion formation.
The process of plasmoid formation starts out during the formation of the
spark discharge. In turn, spark discharge starts with corona formation.
A corona is a process by which a current flows
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Jed, you are describing a gentleman that has supreme confidence in his
knowledge of physics and believes that there can be nothing new under the
sun.
That is why they put him in charge of the ERAB panel. The DoE is run by
people like him.
They are
Thanks Ruby; A great video from Ruby Carat.
Russ used air in on demo and got poor results. Hydrogen was better and
helium was the best.
Heinz Klostermann uses air because his cannon system cannot be made gas
tight.
A linier motor can be made completely gas tight; as tight as a compressed
gas
Sorry I am confused.
What is considered false here?
A nine year old is barely out diapers
or
that muslims do not disapprove of sexual relations with a nine year old?
Harry
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:49 AM, de Bivort Lawrence
ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote:
That a statement is endlessly
Below, Jojo promised to allow me the last word. This is it. It
really doesn't matter, though, because I'm done. anyway I already
shut down response in other threads. There are issues raised in these
exchanges that can be of value, but they are also basically off-topic.
The relevance I could
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Welcome to dirt bag america. I wonder what it is like in other parts of
the world.
http://zeenews.india.com/blog/india-s-open-toilet-crisis_322.html
Holy crap
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 31, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Welcome to dirt bag america. I wonder what it is like in other parts of the
world.
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM, ChemE cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Holy crap
Only if it's Shiva's.
At 10:18 AM 12/31/2012, Zell, Chris wrote:
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/12/death-threats-anyone-austrian-prof-global-warming-deniers-should-be-sentenced-to-death/
This ugly spirit is ruining free inquiry and science in
general. Fortunately, he lacks credibility on the subject.
Before
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM, ChemE cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Holy crap
Only if it's Shiva's.
If I were Hindu should I be offended or just laugh?
harry
At 11:10 AM 12/31/2012, James Bowery wrote:
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Jed Rothwell
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.comjedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
What irks me is when skeptics do not even bother to read the papers
by Bockris, Gerischer or McKubre
The barrier I ran into with one of the
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM, ChemE cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Holy crap
Only if it's Shiva's.
If I were Hindu should I be offended or
Regarding document:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/P4.pdf
This type of experiment can be explained by the formation of a water based
plasmoid which accelerates through the action of zero point energy and
electrostatic attraction of an ambient electronegative water vapor
atmosphere beyond the
RE: underlying physical mechanism in Papp's device.
Perhaps it's as simple as the volume changes that occur in piezoceramics
under an applied voltage. only that its occurring in a gas where individual
atoms/molecules are free to orient completely with the applied E-field
resulting in maximum
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:47 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
RE: underlying physical mechanism in Papp’s device…
** **
Perhaps it’s as simple as the volume changes that occur in piezoceramics
under an applied voltage… only that its occurring in a gas where individual
Like other areas of LENR, the strength of the reaction is based on the
details of the design.
I the Papp reaction, the strength of the plasmoid can be relatively small
when produced in air, but stronger when more reactive electronegative
gases are used in the reaction.
In keeping with other LENR
Plasmoid sounds as goofy as a gremlin...
How about WIPE:
weakly interacting particle energetic
If they are massive like an orbiting hurricane particle we will call them
WIPE OUT
On Monday, December 31, 2012, Axil Axil wrote:
Like other areas of LENR, the strength of the reaction is based on
At 11:25 AM 12/31/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Look, he said right here, in this forum, that he wants to see a
testable theory.
Jed, I must have missed that. Where did he say that?
Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Mark Gibbs
mailto:mgi...@gibbs.commgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Sure, there's lots of
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM, ChemE cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Holy crap
Only if it's Shiva's.
If I were Hindu should I be
At 01:16 PM 12/29/2012, James Bowery wrote:
From the preamble to the DoE's 1989 cold fusion review.
Ordinarily, new scientific discoveries are claimed to be consistent
and reproducible; as a result, if the experiments are not
complicated, the discovery can usually be confirmed or disproved in
I looked at the Papp cannon video again. At 3:00 in, Papp is filling the
cannon from one of the flasks. It has a sizable amount of clear liquid at
the bottom of that flask.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2tuk31pS2Mfeature=player_embedded
Is that liquid clorinated water is see?
Happy New
At 01:49 PM 12/29/2012, James Bowery wrote:
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Mark Gibbs
mailto:mgi...@gibbs.commgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Let's see if I'm understanding this correctly: The theory was that
nuclear reactions cannot occur in a system such as PF's. This
theory was falsified which
At 11:28 AM 12/31/2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
From Ashfield:
...
... I am puzzled by your [Jed's] statement that you have spoken to large
investors who confirm the E-Cat works
That certainly is an intriguing statement coming from Mr. Rothwell.
Jed has said things like
“Obviously, if it is not a nuclear reaction (there are other possibilities
besides fusion).”
It could be accelerated alpha radiation from a partial lowering of the
coulomb barrier.
Alpha radiation is just doubly ionized helium.
We can distinguish this helium production from fusion by that
At 11:48 AM 12/31/2012, a.ashfield wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=from:%22OrionWorks+-+Steven+Vincent+Johnson%22Steven
Vincent Johnson wrote: However, what is significant is that Rossi
never allows his tantalizing evidence to be independently validated.
At 04:27 PM 12/31/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Fission reactor airplane engines were developed in the 1950s. See
chapter 18 of my book, and also:
http://www.aviation-history.com/articles/nuke-american.htmhttp://www.aviation-history.com/articles/nuke-american.htm
Half a billion dollars. What
At 06:23 PM 12/31/2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM, ChemE cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Holy crap
Only if it's Shiva's.
If I were Hindu should I be offended or just laugh?
If you were Hindu,
LOL LOL LOL
At least one person is seeing thru the fog of spin and deception put up by
Lomax. My job is done and is an unqualified success.
Jojo
PS. I have proven both statements to be true. A'isha was indeed a little
girl BARELY OUT OF DIAPERS as evidenced by her
I believe I've responded to it my friend, just not directly to you. My
response to you was the same response to Lomax.
My response is repeated below:
Just because the practice of sexual relations with 9 year old little girls
was common, widespread and accepted in the Arabian peninsula during
No my friend, no family members or caregivers were alcoholics. 10 for fishing
effort though.
No, I did not drink alcohol when I was younger because I was allergic to it.
Since, I never acquired this bad habit when I was younger, I never thought of
acquiring it now. Besides, after my
Other than what he wrote in his autobiography, no. But his autobiography is
a revealing work into his psyche.
He mentioned that the muslim call to prayer was the most beautiful sound
he has heard. High praise from a supposed Christian. Beautiful in that
the music or melody is beautiful,
While what you are saying about Indonesian schools may be true today - I am not
knowledgeable about the current school system in Indonesia, so I will not
debate that.
While that may be true, it surely wasn't true in the 70's when Obama went
there. Records show he was registered in that school
Are you saying your wife knows the exact school Obama went to? What's the name
of the schoold and its address please? Can she descirbe what it looks like?
When was the last time you wife has physically seen that school?
Jojo
Careful now, your next answer will reveal if you are lying
Now, we are getting into Philosophy. OK, I'll bite since I am not too busy
yet.
As to the issue of unverfiiable source. You need to define what you mean
by unverifiable. How does one go about verifying a history book like the
Bible? You call it unverifiable because you choose to not
Yes, I believe Genesis and the Bible to be literraly true. (Not that I
believe Jesus was a chicken because he said he would like to gather
Jerusalem under his wings.) I believe it is true because I have verified it
to be true.
Beleive it or not, I was and am an engineer. I studied
So, muslims approve of marriage with sexual relations to a 9 year old
menstruating little girl?'''
There are only 2 possible answers: Yes or No. But let's see how Lomax will
spin this.
Jojo
PS. Note that 2 respected and venerated muslim sources (Sahih Muslim and
Sahih Bukhari) have
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