Re: [Vo]:For the resident nuclear experts...semi-OT?

alpha's are generally pretty tame. large sources of alpha can cause skin damage, but thats about as deep as it gets. Same with beta. Its the gamma that are a big issue. gamma goes through everything, alpha and beta get blocked by just about everything. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:57 PM, <[EMAIL

Re: [Vo]:For the resident nuclear experts...semi-OT?

Thanks for the info. You learn something new everyday. But, most of those are short term halflifes, and most of the long termers are alpha and beta emitters, so still very little long term damage there. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Kyle Mcallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [Vo]:For the resident nuclear experts...semi-OT?

fast neutrons can cause physical damage, de magnetize things, and cause other issues, but i was under the impression that it would only cause actual nuclear reactions with certain ALREADY radioactive species. and i cant find anything online to the contrary. Care to link some info on fast neutrons

Re: [Vo]:For the resident nuclear experts...semi-OT?

till be considered a neutron bomb, wouldn't it? Simply put, its not the best method of taking out other in flight missiles. emp devices, or midair cluster or fuel air (or clustered fuel air) would work a lot better. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Kyle Mcallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [Vo]:For the resident nuclear experts...semi-OT?

if its fiction anyways, go for an antimatter explosive. high blast, decent radiation, no fallout. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Kyle Mcallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > > Here's a question regarding a bit of fiction I am > writing as a side project. > > What would the radiation effec

Re: [Vo]:For the resident nuclear experts...semi-OT?

pure fusion would be a so called "neutron bomb" high emp, lots of radiation, little blast. if they worked, you could basically drop a few dozen, instantly kill most of the population, wait a year, go in and use all the land and buildings and such, no sweat, just some corpse clean up. basically,

[Vo]:Vortex Kitteh OT

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-vortex-cat-claims-another.jpg

Re: [Vo]:Animated Tesseract

to be fair, that would be one three dimensional face of a hypercube, right? On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:8-cell.gif > > Careful. I can't stop watching it. > > Terry > >

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

Negatory. Someone doesn't know how that small shack outside Lagrange works, i take it? Lagrange Point 1, or, L-1, is the point of stability directly BETWEEN two bodies. so between teh earth and moon. not gonna see the farside from there. On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:13 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

heres a link with some pics and more info. http://cheerfulcurmudgeon.com/2006/05/22/geometric-whirlpools/ On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: > >> To what, the explanation, the journal, neither? ;) >> >>

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

one mans fiction is another mans future. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:29 PM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:33:49 -0900: >> Hi, >> >> >> Even the hexagonal structure itself appears to be just that -

Re: [Vo]:making antimatter

There we were, Michael, Azrael, and I, dancing on the head of this very cool gold pin we found. Then, this beam of light hits the pin beneath us, and streamers come shooting out. Two of the streamers of energy cross next to Azrael, and POOF, hes gone, man! Michael draws his flaming sword, fight

Re: [Vo]:Glaciers Discovered on Mars

well, we could strip mine venus, make it smaller, and ship it all to mars, increasing its gravity. but that will take a LONG while. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:10:15 -0500 > Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That is fantastic

Re: [Vo]:web space

no. hostmonster.com 5 bucks a month if you pay a year at a time, plus ten a year per web domain. best rate you will find. not going to break the bank. On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Since my move, I have lost my web site (which used to be provided "free"

Re: [Vo]:OT: You-Tube video download question

ooo, didnt know that terry, thanks. that does make it a bit easier. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Youtube vids are flash video player format (.flv). You can d/l > through a proxy site and save to your PC. You can also d/l a .flv > player all for fre

Re: [Vo]:OT: You-Tube video download question

google videos are a listing and player of regular videos that people have put up online in various places, so you download the video file itself. youtube is for broadcast on youtube only. there IS software that will capture youtube videos for you though. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:45 AM, OrionWor

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Election news from my daughter, on Japanese TV and standing in line to vote

The polling place where i just voted was split in twain, two lines. One for a large area of low income people, one for a very small area of high income people. my line (low income area) was a 2 hour wait. there was no wait in the other line at all. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Jed Rothwell <[E

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter? Hubble Telescope scores a perfect "10"

its still travelling on the shockwave of passthrough. based on the likely angle, i think the one is actually a more perfect circle than teh o. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:06 AM, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See: > > http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/081030-hubble-perfect.html > > Or

Re: [Vo]:Just kooks - or underlying indications of some real anomalies?

the writer should not shop at walmart at 3 am, me thinks. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://educate-yourself.org/pnl/mindcontrolbetatesting01jun08.shtml > > http://tinyurl.com/62yext > > "We see it all around us now when we go shopping; all the

Re: [Vo]:NaH - strong and strange

im confused by your use of the term, donate a proton. the ion h- still is the proton. there is just an extra electron on it. when accepting a proton, you get h2 and na+ for the salt formation with whatever gave the proton. To have it "donate a proton" would mean creating a stable na, which isnt

Re: [Vo]:Dead Sea Saga

The dead sea isnt an ocean, its a land locked sea, and the magnesium comes from local salt deposits. On a global level, sodium is more prevelant, but since the dead sea doesn't connect to the ocean, its not part of the averaging out mechanisms present in the oceans, so local differences matter. No

Re: [Vo]:How to steal an electrion

I volunteer for ACORN near election times to help run such voter registration desks. No, we go out of our way to fill out registration papers for EVERYONE who asks to. If they can't provide proper documentation to us, we send it in, with a note saying, could not verify, may not be legal voter. W

Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

ohh, point, major changes. so three, becuase its an OR on the last two. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 7, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > Here's a model developed back around 1980, which was back-tested against > every Presiden

Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

we can check key 11, and MAYBE key four. wow. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a model developed back around 1980, which was back-tested against > every Presidential election back to 1860, and which has correctly > predicted every election s

Re: [Vo]:The evolution of good governance

It is, and I've pointed it out several times when the whole, no food for fuel arguement comes up. There is still corn being grown for no purpose but to grind up for soil conditioning. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terry, > > >> We could produce more if n

Re: [Vo]:The Off Topic Threads

::CHEERS!:: thank you. and, i missed the original energy from air thread. what was the title? On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:09 AM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jed Rothwell posted > >>This is kind of off-topic but also on topic. > > You got that right, I just deleated the whole Evoluti

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Freedom of Information and Open Science

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this dispute is overblown, and kind of silly on both sides. > > I see no harm in Krivit discussing leaked messages. The messages do not seem > particularly important and I can't imagine why they are secret in the firs

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Freedom of Information and Open Science

and this is cross posted here becuase? On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Steven Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:18:24 -0800 > To: "michael.mckubre-sri.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Steven Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Freedom of Information and Open Sci

Re: [Vo]:It Was Magnetism

Oooh, i had to steel my self for that one. The pun coppers should come and nickel and dime you to death with fines. To think that you would zinc to that level. If i had the winged cap of mercury, to fly from these puns. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

you mean, like all the rich that inherit their wealth, and dont do anything useful with it? They get plenty of things, it seems. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:42:24 -0400: > Hi, > [snip]

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

Tell me, what color is the sky in this fantasy land you live in? Or is it just too many drugs taken at once? On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Remi Cornwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can't argue with that. > > > > I just want to know why when GOP representatives are on TV that they don't > giv

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building "space drive" unit

> > It is the ahistorical aspect of newtonian relativity which bothers me. > When I stand on shore and see a ship sail by, and I know that it was > set in motion by the wind. Also a person on the ship knows > the shore was not set in motion by the wind. > > Harry > > > -

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

I seem to recall that it wasnt that a human wouldn't swat it, its that a human wouldnt know waht a bee was. I could be wrong. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OrionWorks wrote: >>>From Remi: >> >>> Was it Gene Hackman in a film I can't remember

Re: FW: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

i would think many of the issues i have with it are with constitution rights given to things that dont deserve them. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Jeff Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

Remi Cornwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you regulate government then? Who governs the governors? When do > governments vote themselves less power? > > I'm in agreement about corporations. > > -Original Message- > From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

Ohh, I'm one of those people. I want government OUT of my life. The only place government has a right to interfere with my life is where my actions impact others directly. But businesses do NOTHING but impact others directly. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:24 AM, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

n the left it is the-lesser-of-two-evils to favour the right. > The American constitution was forged in the light of the Enlightenment. > > > -Original Message- > From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 September 2008 17:27 > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > S

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

Less government on the individual. MORE on the corporation. and lets remove this political fiction of coorp as person, please! On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Remi Cornwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A plague on both their houses! > > The less government the better. Trust your constitution th

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building "space drive" unit

nd the earth are now moving under you at 1 m/s? > > If such a conceit were true the pool players standing around the table > would have been flung off their feet as the earth abruptly accelerated > under them from 0 m/s to 1 m/s. > > Harry > > > > - Original Mes

Re: [Vo]:Chinese building "space drive" unit

Yes. It is more the opposite, but every step you take, you push the Earth, and she pushes back at you. The Earth pushes a hell of a lot harder, but you DO have an effect on the motion of the Earth, however infintesimal, with each step. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Vo]:The end of corn-ethanol

Hmm, since its a conversion of the cellulose tissue, thats not neccesarily true. tree waste certainly has a lot more energy than the seeds it makes does. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jones Beene wrote: > >> Yesterday, an alternative fuel developed by

Re: [Vo]:"Here comes $500 oil"

tives, and while its more work, time wise, its actually cheaper. ) On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > leaking pen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Since her main arguement for having gone vegetarian in the first place >> was a

Re: [Vo]:"Here comes $500 oil"

Since her main arguement for having gone vegetarian in the first place was a belief that humans are meant to be herbivourous, and that eating meat goes against nature. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > leaking pen wrote: >&

Re: [Vo]:"Here comes $500 oil"

Ohh, god, I had a friend who did that. I spent thirty minutes lambasting her for her total and complete hypocrisy. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Remi Cornwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &*(*&^(%!!! Vegan cats!! > > Like the poor moggy had any choice in the matter. > > I can just imagine some

Re: [Vo]:"Here comes $500 oil"

rt cheap as is buying a pair of running shoes. Veg and > tinned mackerel are really cheap too. Of course you can 'dig for victory' > and grow your own veg too in an allotment. > > Of course burning less heating oil burns calories too. > > -Original Message- >

Re: [Vo]:"Here comes $500 oil"

that, tied into marketing) On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > leaking pen wrote: >> The obese problem will go away? No. A good portion of the obesity >> problem in the us is becuase cheap food is unhealthy food. Its not &g

Re: [Vo]:"Here comes $500 oil"

The obese problem will go away? No. A good portion of the obesity problem in the us is becuase cheap food is unhealthy food. Its not just overeating, its that some people can only afford crap to eat. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > His prediction w

Re: [Vo]:Jesse Ventura on 9/11

wrote: > Watch out for that glass house, eh? > > 8^) > > > ---------- > From: "leaking pen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 3:51 AM > To: > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Jesse Ventura on 9/11 >

Re: [Vo]:Jesse Ventura on 9/11

And this has the FUCK to do with science? seriously people, its been bad enough on this list, but now we're just scraping the bottom of teh barrel. On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:04 AM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vortexians; > > I'm not a big fan of Jesse Ventura. We did elect him gov

Re: [Vo]:Nano-thermite aka Superthermite

Hunh, doesnt seem that way to me. High dispersal and insane surface to area ratio is known for doing just that in chemical reactions and explosions. Look at fuel air explosives. On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:08 AM, R C Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy Jones, > There's folks on Vo, and ther

Re: [Vo]:Re: Plate tectonics cause CO2 emission

I wouldnt think the carbon content needs replenishment, more the oxygen content. In addition, it would help free pockets of gas into the atmosphere. I dont think hiding biomass would be big, as any biomass it submerges was already taken out of the system in terms of peat and loam. On Wed, Sep 10

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

etect a little aluminum and they conclude thermite was used. It is so easy > to fool people, it is no wonder so much delusion exists. > > Ed > > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 12:46 PM, leaking pen wrote: > >> Considering that I use thermite to MAKE molten pools of metal, as part

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

Considering that I use thermite to MAKE molten pools of metal, as part of a glass sculpture technique, that would be incorrect. The reaction in large amounts doesnt "blow" things away. Thats standard aluminum / iron (II) oxide thermite. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

unless the differeing heat exchange of the metal causes ot to build frost from the vapor dissapearing from the ground. ive seen that effect with railings here in arizona in the dry dry winters. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:2

Re: [Vo]:Death of software innovation

Thank you, you said it better than I could have. Open Source is the way to go! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Horace Heffner wrote: >> >> I can't image any decision that could be more damaging to the US software >> industry, especially in the

Re: [Vo]:death star

I would like to see some comparamoter picture setups, not something that seems completely computer generated. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:13 PM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vortexians; > > Several years ago Pat Bailey started sending me emails about Nibiru, the > legendary 11th planet

Re: [Vo]:Ice confirmed on Mars

>From the article He said the disappearing chunks could not have been carbon-dioxide ice at the local temperatures because that material would not have been stable for even one day as a solid. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:47 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In reply to Horace Heffner's messag

[Vo]:Bussard's legacy

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/12/1136887.aspx Emc2 Fusion's Richard Nebel can't say yet whether his team's garage-shop plasma experiment will lead to cheap, abundant fusion power. But he can say that after months of tweaking, the WB-7 device "runs like a top" - and he's hoping to

Re: [Vo]:Self Runner

Patent schmatent. Creative commons license. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your comments, Mark. > > Suppose the patent for the device already disclosed adequate > information for replication. With a couple of grand and some time, > you could

Re: [Vo]:Ethanol Al

The simple thing is, if acreage is used to generate fuel that WASNT being used to generate food, you can not count it as, well we could make food here instead. That is short sited and beside the point. On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 4:24 PM, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Foster sez: >

Re: [Vo]:CNN.COM: Scientists offered $1 million to grow laboratory chicken

Im not catholic, so i keep with communion being symbolic, and not actual. As I told the last Catholic priest to argue the point with me, okay, if Christ was always literal, then I'm going to let you preach to me, and wait for you to turn into a handful of seed. Im hoping for radish. On Wed, Apr 23

Re: [Vo]:CNN.COM: Scientists offered $1 million to grow laboratory chicken

even worse will be the premium meats, getting made and eating a genetic copy of YOURSELF. or a ceo of a company making all new employees have a Big Bob burger, guaranteed rump of our president, Big Bob. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jed sez: > > >> Wha

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance

Actually, i am. I favor tolls on the goods being shipped by companies along said system using public tax dollars. on the goods, not the trucks, because the truckers have it hard enough as is. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you are opposed to

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance

starting to put pressure on the government. Perhaps > if a few more of the purchased congressmen are voted out of office, things > will change. > > Ed > > > > leaking pen wrote: > > > > Unfortunately Ed, health insurance is in part the problem. When > >

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance

Unfortunately Ed, health insurance is in part the problem. When insurance and not a person was paying the bill, doctors and hospitals found they could charge more. Insurance companies raise prices to compensate, but are thus willing to pay more, and the cycle continues. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:1

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance

I HAVE insurance, but failed to read the deductible part of it. Went to the emergency room for a cut open hand, like, you could see fat tissue and nerves, that cut. Was told as i was leaving they had my insurance info, no problem. Turns out theres a 1 grand deductible on emergency room visits th

Re: [Vo]:The (possible) oil peak rolls on

becuase the stock market has nothing to do with long term income of individual companies. Companies are rewarded on the stock market for doing things that hurt them, suck as firing people and raising prices. The stock market is based on making as much as possible with as little investment and ove

Re: [Vo]:Earth Day - The new Lent?

re replacing the "super-size-it" mentality of consumerism- the outlook fostered on all of us shamelessly by the media For me, it was more of mentality of getting the most for my money. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your outlook on life has matured to

Re: [Vo]:does anyone else see irony in this?

its like rain on your wedding day. which is to say, very cyclical history, very sad, rather amusing in a dark way, but not irony. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Steven Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SAN FRANCISCO > Tesla Motors, the Silicon Valley maker of electric sports cars, filed

Re: [Vo]:Test

this one did. On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My posts have not made it to vortex for 24 hours. > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ > > > > -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]:Nuke causes massive power outage

if this were true, if there would be a shortage due to time taken to make a safer cleaner plant, well, then we need a shortage! On 2/27/08, R C Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy Jed, > One of the 20 worse polluting USA coal fired electric power plants, The FPP > plant ,Fayette county Te

Re: [Vo]:Creationism (was Re:OT: periodic table)

no, fundamentalist christian creationists are less than 3 percent of the population. They just shout a lot louder then everyone else. On 2/4/08, Michel Jullian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In school it's only mentioned in a historical context here. I understand > there are very many (>10%?) crea

Re: [Vo]:OT: periodic table

giggle On Feb 3, 2008 12:39 PM, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > satire: > > http://photos9.flickr.com/12560931_6246357501_b.jpg > > harry > > -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

i think his point is that the aquifers are natural filters, and that rising watertables from ocean flooding would be filtered through them. this is partially true, but it would filter slowly, and you would still end up with salty marshland, likely. On 1/29/08, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

thats basically it. it depends on if the death and disease and destruction that will be caused is worth it. (if you ask me, i get less people in the world, and beach front property here in az. WIN WIN. ) On 1/28/08, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wro

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee

On 1/24/08, leaking pen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the 15th ammendment and 19th ammendment gave it to blacks and women, > respectively. sorry, hit send too soon. . > > On 1/24/08, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In reply to leaki

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee

the 15th ammendment and 19th ammendment gave it too. On 1/24/08, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In reply to leaking pen's message of Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:28:08 -0700: > Hi, > [snip] > >so, get rid of the legal fiction of corporations being people? i can go > >along with that.

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee

so, get rid of the legal fiction of corporations being people? i can go along with that. the blacks and women will hate loosing their vote though. On Jan 22, 2008 11:32 PM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > Sorry to introduce off-topic politics, but here is an

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Quote from Huckabee

ohh, the ammendment refference. As a christian, i have no problem with a religious president (note, any religion. jewish, muslim, hell, a wiccan president would be cool. imagine what cabinet meetings would be like!) but a president running the country religiously, well... if huckabee wins, th

Re: [Vo]:Even Newer Solar Panel

i was thinking the same, in terms of heat exchange, and cooling. Hell, from the sounds of it, make your clothes of it and you could charge your cell phone by jogging. at 80 percent efficiency on sunlight... how efficient would this be for making electricity from just heat? this could replace eve

Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

So, wait, the one seen in phoenix by several THOUSANDS of people, with video that showed it was not a plane or planes, that our SENATOR John McCain said he saw , and knew it was not a plane...its small town boredom. yeah. On Jan 17, 2008 6:36 AM, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once

Re: [Vo]:Cost of gasoline with oil at $100/barrel

http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/whats_in_barrel_oil.html On 1/3/08, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:47:44 -0500: > Hi, > [snip] > > It takes more than 1 barrel of oil to make a barrel of gasoline. > > >Crude oil prices

Re: [VO]: Earth geological shapes vs. mineral location

agreed, i looked, it seems to be image artifacts of some kind and id herad that was levy that had done prospecting. goes to show you cant trust the news. Very cool R.C. thanks for the info. i may give that a try for fun myself sometimes. id look more for more dissolvable minerals known to be wi

Re: RE: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

Just to add, the point of Lamarkian inheritance was that traits changed based on the want. giraffes wanted to eat leaves higher on the tree, and stretched, and stretched, and becuase of that, their children were born with longer necks to start with, and they stretched, and stretched, and so on. it

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

so, im curious, have you any expericence in actual nueral chemistry/physiology, and have you done any research into where it occurs? its where im headed, myself , after finishing my degree. On 12/20/07, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > leaking pen wrote: &

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

ed, would you suggest that the ability to interact with this energy world is inherent with the existingly known mechanisms of the brain, through some form of 4th dimensional aspect of the brain we dont understand, or through another mechanism/organ/spirit entirely? and, your own reality is quite s

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

i like that very much, im going to use that. whereas, to carry the analogy further, the try them all system is teh same game, but you arent allowed to keep dice. also keep in mind that teh very nature of the processes involve curtail what will be tried. On Dec 19, 2007 12:54 PM, OrionWorks <[EMA

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

ohh, one more thing. i cant find the source at the moment, but i read a few years back that most women will have over a dozen miscarriages in thier lives that they wont even know about , as it never gets beyond a couple of weeks, due to deleterious mutations and combinations. On Dec 19, 2007 12:5

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Mindless crap shoot of evolution

yup, not a single transitional fossil anywhere. ohh... wait whats this over here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils On Dec 18, 2007 9:37 PM, R.C.Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy Steven Johnson, > > Today's university science classes avoid the Darwin theor

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

actually, those people count for quite alot. if the selective pressure is societal, than someone who changes society will change what traits bring what results. and therefore are still of importance. thats like saying that the genocide of european jews by hitler has no effect on long term genetic

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

Indeed, to me, evolution means change to deal with the environment. It makes me wonder, as we largely control our environment these days, some of these "evolutionary" changes are in response to our own actions. does that make us a self evolving species? as for the selective breeding, we should g

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

jack, again, i think that these issues, things that would have killed people at young ages, even if through no other method than preventing them from working and causing them to die of starvation, paupers, are being prevented today. which is why we see them more and more. On 12/14/07, Taylor J. S

Re: [Vo]:OT: Culture and the evolving human

There is no escaping reason; no denying culture. Because as we both know, without culture, we would not exist. It is culture that created us. Culture that connects us. Culture that pulls us. That guides us. That drives us. It is culture that defines us. Culture that binds us. sorry. couldn

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

Indeed, we are not stating improvement, merely change. On 12/13/07, PHILIP WINESTONE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are exquisitely beautiful cave paintings in France, dating back > about 15000 years. There are even more exquisite paintings - again in caves > in France - dating back 35000 y

Re: [Vo]:OT: Are humans evolving faster?

I might add that not only are more mutations occuring, but, becuase of society, more mutations are surviving and able to breed that normally wouldnt. On 12/13/07, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Published: 7 hours ago, 17:16 EST, December 10, 2007 >

Re: [Vo]:Re: Hydrogen as fuel

Interesting. query, rather than storing water, why not collect condensate from the burning fuel, since water is one of the prime releases into the air? On 12/9/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is an often overlooked but surprising point regarding hydrogen as > fuel. Actually

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

its not the toners that are collected, its the toner containers. thats becuase they have valuable parts, like the drum, inside them, and it costs about a buck to refill it with toner as opposed to manufacturing a new one. its a blend of plastic resins. not something i want in my lungs. On 12/4

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

o about paraelectricity? > > David > > On Dec 4, 2007 2:35 PM, leaking pen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > same as any fine dust, rub it against itself. one of those bagless > > vacuums would work perfect. i created 3 inch sparks to my legs with one of > >

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

same as any fine dust, rub it against itself. one of those bagless vacuums would work perfect. i created 3 inch sparks to my legs with one of those just using reglular house dust from the static buildup. On Dec 4, 2007 1:51 AM, David Jonsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that laser tone

Re: [Vo]:U.S. food banks?

how about the service industry? not everyone uses the automated system, and call centers are now larger employers in the us than plants. On 11/30/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > leaking pen wrote: > > >okay... if robots run everything and everything is abom

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