Ha Grimer! Not old, just plateau I hope, downhill from there :(
Oh, here's a joke:
Posted At: 01 December 2005 08:47
Conversation: Football
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Subject:Football
The new Liverpool manager sent scouts out around the world looking for a
new striker to replace Michae
Interesting site.
By the way, what's happened to vortex these days? It seems almost
monothematic. It used to be fun years ago.
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Hi Grimer,
Very well put, UMIST first and City, KCL I've done CPD programmes at. Good
links to Oxford, QMW ant other unis. Yes there is an immense class war
between Brighton and Sussex. They are literally just a mile away and I
sometimes use their library because as you would imagine, the physics s
There is a gift to doing physics. The best people at present are those
trained in electrical engineering and cross over (Dirac, Feynman?) or the
applied physicists.
Farooq Abdullah who used to teach me taught his daughter electromagnetism as
she studied for her maths degree. I remember what he sai
Rick,
Thanks for the website. I'll have a look later.
Just out of interest, I remember you come from Hawaii. Is that correct?
Remi.
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Sent: 09 January 2006 21:28
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subjec
Stephen,
Not a case of old news but re-interpreting news much as history is
re-interpreted and placed in a different light.
Yes on the methylation issue, can't remember off-hand but I think adding
methyl groups switches off a gene. Yes, inter-uterine development, early
childhood years and whether
OK,
You caught me p.ssing about and dossing today. Here's a semi serious one:
They imply that there is a genetic mechanism other than sexual selection.
This one is going on about smoking knocking off methyl groups on DNA and the
effects persisting for generations. Sounds like Sheldrake's acquired
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4589072.stm
Just how many billion dollar terrorists are out there? I think they been
watching Moonraker. Better get James Bond in orbit then.
I would have thought it a statement of the bleeding obvious: er, principal
of school, er, terrorists need not apply to
As they say, irony is lost on Americans.
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Sent: 09 January 2006 15:48
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: global warming humour
Hi Remi,
Depends on the tribe. A few tribes in Africa lacked the ca
http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/
...
Website
http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
...
It was October, and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new
Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a
Chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the old secrets. When he
looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like.
Neve
You want him? You can have him.
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Sent: 05 January 2006 13:18
To: vortex-l
Subject: BBC programme, The Science Blacklist
Could you send Tony over for a permanent stay, Remi?
Vo,
Thought this might interest you about the state of US science:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/scienceblacklist.shtml
Remi.
...
Website
http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
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Stephen,
I heard they want to chip us all as they do to pedigree horses and dogs. I
heard that on average 300 CCTV cameras will record one's image in the UK
coupled that to routine number plate scanning, mobile phone tracking.
Could it be that those who want this kind of power over us employ peopl
Mike,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-modern
(Don't take this badly this is not a personal attack, only observation.)
I see a lot of this in the middle classes. It's a kind of trendy fashionable
complacency that comes of being a cultural elite and not having to strive or
work fro a living. Post
The bottom line is that the overwhelming complexity of the manifest universe
is arguably the result of the operation of something as simple as cellular
automata, and that we have no hope of discovering the nature of that seed.
Mike Carrell
How's that? Prove it. Do we all give up and go home? So
VO,
Perhaps they need a centrally administered site across the web, some kind of
extra-national thing providing bona-fides for web interactions. One would
register with conventional documents such as drivers license, passport etc.
and you'd log on to it (some generated bit string unique to oneself)
Jed,
Yes you are correct, always a fine balance between justice and progress and
the forces of anarchy. Yes that was the paper I read. I believe it is stuff
of that quality that is going to attract young research fellows to the
subject.
I'm sorry if my responses get a little patchy from now on as
Vo, Jed,
Wikipedia is a model of free speech (not free screech) and democracy but I
guess what we really mean by free speech is *informed* free speech and what
we really mean by democracy is an educated populous (adult, not a-dolt), non
salacious media (not power without responsibility) and trustwo
Good.
Join the Church of P.ss Take mass going on at a good comedy club.
Vo,
This was shown on the BBC last night. Newsnight is a very renowned
news and current affairs programme and last night a special edition was set
aside where two prominent barristers conducted a trial into the Allies
behaviour in the War on Terrorism. It was very graphic and not for the s
Hang on, hang on, the reply and forwarding of emails makes it look like I
wrote this sh.t below. Cut it out Mr Revtec, how dare you!
No more from this thread from me unless it particularly funny because I do
like a good joke.
Jokes anyone, please let's have at least one joke posting per week.
-
V,
Out of interest, what kicked off this whole discussion? Was somebody caught
with their pants down?
Look the Latins, pagans and other religions don't have these Anglo-Saxon
problems a man is a man, right... So what if he's married and has an au-pair
or two? It's the double standard and it's a ma
It's called comparative religion. Religion without the b.s. magic and
mysticism is called Humanitarianism.
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J.
This is some in-joke from a few weeks ago about rightwing extremists and
victimised minorities, if I remember?
F...! There are some really stupid people on the planet. It easy to forget
how dumb the masses are when one is dealing with uni. educated people most
of the day (and they are dumb too)
Helva of a system. You think the number of hits it must be getting. The
database resolves names in all manners, street names, place names,
postcodes. Then there is the database for the pictures.
What I'm waiting for, not, is the direct mailing resulting from this. Wanna
swimming pool, patio, exten
Vorts,
You probably already knew this.
http://earth.google.com/
I can see my house, my car, my neighbour's car. And this is the free
version...
Just think, real-time, terahertz radiation (see through walls), crosslink
with GPS, mobile phones, bank cards and we have a 24-7 surveillance society.
Thought I'd share this one with you: "To coo at babies or not to
coo".
Cooing should be a thing of the past because these are
little people
Debbie Lawson,
neo-natal manager
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4284522.stm
The infection control is totally logical
Nick, if you think modelling a planet is
that easy maybe you should turn to economics next… or the human brain…
or computational pharmacology… or traffic congestion.
Face it, GW is an unknown, it might be
correct, it maybe incorrect. It might be “natural” or it might be
man-made.
If
Harry,
We are dealing with uncertainties; we take the weight of the uncertainty and
the risk if we do nothing and come up with an action plan. What Jed and Nick
seem to think is that "global warming" is an absolute already proven. I put
it you that the drip, drip of news every day from the GW gravy
Sanity. Sanity. Hallelujah!
Not an ad hominem in site!
"For the times they are ah chang..ING!"
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Sent: 26 September 2005 22:02
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Who's Left?
My impressio
Fearless. Bring it on.
> Finding out what Bob Dylan was "all about" is probably a worthy pursuit.
> In the meantime, since you are often forthcoming in your personal
> judgements of others it is only fair that you get a little return on your
> investment.
> It does seems to me that you expend a
Jed, Nick,
You have talent you are good with words, organisation and fund raising. Why
not leave the science to the people doing it, listen to them and don't turn
it into a freak show with all the hyperbole but help to raise the profiles
of current renewables and renewables being researched withou
Well the wind is blowing out here in Brighton it's the remnants of Katrina.
I should go home and watch the Bob Dylan documentary on BBC2. Well before my
time, have to find out what it's all about.
Better than talking nonsense to the nonsensical. You don't need a weatherman
to know that hippies are
Route around here http://www.dti.gov.uk/energy/ and get the facts. Jed
unlike CF, keeping the lights on is not politics or science fiction.
Honest to God, stop trying to turn science into politics. It's objective,
always has been, always will be.
You can't make a phenomenon happen by popular vote
This one produced on 21/7/05
http://www.dti.gov.uk/energy/sepn/secondannualreport.pdf
Try page 15, section 3.1 and then the nice graphic at the top of page 16.
FACTS not FICTION.
Jed, Nick, please grow up or take a phenothiazine derivative.
Nick further to what I said, you are going to find out who the real loonies
are when the lights go out. There is no substantial primal green power
source and if you think a few pretty wind mills in the north sea, a bit of
fart gas and a solar panel is going to do it you're nuts.
I heard to today T
Nick,
No, there may be climate change natural or man-assisted. What I object
to is non-scientists carrying on like they know the scientific method. To be
correct, global warming is a hypothesis.
From my website (below), read and understand why emotion (feelings) and
politics is absolut
Nick Palmer wrote:
Fri, 23 Sep 2005 03:26:44 -0700
>> as a past area coordinator for the Friends of the Earth environmental
group,
>> I have been calling global warming deniers...
>> ... morons and insane for quite a while now.
You don't mind my asking but are you an engineer or scientist? W
You too Richard.
All the best.
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Sent: 22 September 2005 13:30
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: "Suppression in Science" by..
Remi wrote..
>Come off it Grimer, why do you use such
Come off it Grimer, why do you use such labels reserved for the worst in
society for the best? It all starts from an early age: nerd, misfit, weirdo,
wanker, perv, psycho, tax avoider, self-centred, anti-socialist on an on.
It's enough to put anyone off excelling which is what happens in low class
Vo,
Herman Bondi has died
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/4255806.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/
Why not try this excellent mini-series by David Attenborough on the Aquatic
Ape hypothesis. Excellent account of the scientific method and how an
amateur is coming up aga
Der, did it again.
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Sent: 21 September 2005 18:37
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Ok so your premise is to form O3 which is highly oxidative. Cramming more
into the cylinders via super or turbo-charger is similar but beware dama
How insensitive of me.
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Subject: Re: Sponsorship request
A rich city does not automatically make you a rich man. Cash flow
problems and debt
Sorry Michael, sometimes it picks up Vo other times the sender.
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Michael,
Ah I've learnt something today... So RP was a construct. How fascinating.
What a good idea to
$895 s’nuthin. Pocket money. An
editor living in Los Angeles
in the richest state in the richest country? If it was $8950 I could
understand.
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From: Cornwall Remi
Sent: 20 September 2005 15:09
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Subject: RE: Interesting patent law case...off topic...long email...
Easy way around this: Publish the day after you file on the internet (could
even do it the same day but that is a technicalit
But you would admit rather easier than a f.ss.on device.
Oh no! I'm not going down that route of discussing f.ss.on devices in detail
on a public webserver. Oh no! I don't want to raided, tortured, sent to
Guantanemo and then denied legal process.
Let me state categorically: I'm a lapsed CofE, I'
> The Chinese are a different story. If they develop cold fusion several
> years before we do, they will be in a position to develop the weapons are
> described in my book, in chapter 11.
> - Jed
Are you saying that CF could be dangerous? Do you all risk doing an E.
Teller by putting naked am
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725175.200
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Website
http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
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I say we book a ring and let them fight it out :) Role up, role up! In the
blue corner...
Alright, not funny.
Going on from the "RE: Way-OT: Mo' de king's English" I don't agree with Jed
Rothwell either. The function of a language is to be understood by the
greatest number of people. Apparently the Queen has picked up some Estuary
English (as though she is the guardian of it tck!) so languages are
evolutio
Also if this discussion continues can we change the name of the thread? It's
quite offensive otherwise the "lady doth protest too much".
Richard, I'm not quite sure about you but that is not the issue. It is the
same as working with pathological or true believer types. Just what is it
that makes t
Richard,
Short and to the point:
Just the same educational experiences can be found with working class white
youths whose parents moved out from the East End of London after the Second
World War (move the dears out of slum housing and we'll be raising them up).
Going back to my home town and seei
> The PHRI is a prime example of the rapidly accelerated militarization of
America's campuses - following the Cheney-Bush's 'War on Terrorism'
The paradigm for foreign policy dating back to time of empire is "wogs got
resources, we take the resources". If they could treat them fairly, stop
giving
Yeah, what's this Storms Swartz Rothwell thing. Can you have it out and tell
us just what it is you don't like about each other? It's intriguing. Can you
act like grown ups for the younger crowd?
I guess some people are born never to get along.
NO SOLUTION :)
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RC M. in short what was the solution to the problem back in 1962 when you
sounded out? Do you believe in integration? What were you doing to warn them
that the project would fail or did you retreat into a bunker as most people
without the strength would?
No judgment is being made (in the sense of
Thanks for all the contributions: Swartz, Storms, Rothwell, Wesley
Bruce. I shall follow the leads and have changed my view about CF. I don’t
agree with the mechanisms Storms suggested such as a charge shielded nucleons –
that’s just plain wrong or ‘conversion of a deuteron to a wave’
what’
I have appreciated all your posts on this subject. It's fascinating to see
the extremes of human behaviour.
Jed's post was great (as always on this and other matters) very articulate
and well thought out but I'm not patronising.
R C Macaulay I find you very interesting. You have your views and I
(sorry responded twice Michael sometimes it picks up vortex other times the
sender)
Michael,
No I do have results. It's a little arcane with this dependent independent
flux stuff. I need to make it better and more robust but there is definitely
an effect 100% reproducible.
I haven't formally writt
ight (wing) Reverend R. O. Cornwall Preacheth to Choir.
Sort of a Sermon on The Mount. (High Horse that is).
Keep those cards and letters coming in, folks! :-)
Frederick
...
Website
http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
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Whoa! Me is feelin' it. Me haffy go now.
ROFL.
(Actually I'm an Essex boy with an accent that flits between minor public
school, Church of England, SE London, Inner Bromley, Hounslow Asian,
Bangladeshi East End, Mancunian, 1st generation middle class black
(parents), and any other influence I subco
(Written yesterday late, off line)
Dear Vo and CF'ers
I don't want to patronise you and teach how to do research but as a person
with one foot in academia and one foot in my old stamping ground I know how
both worlds work. Like my faith in things such as democracy I have faith in
academia and educ
You've got a temper and this is your particular fuse.
Sorry.
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>Very authoritarian and patrician.
You got a problem with that?
Specifically, apart from the fact that you do not like my attitude, do you
have any substantive technical objections to the points I raised in
Last one before I go...
Yes Mitchell but you've got to get that stuff in Phys Rev. A(?), B(?) or D.
That's how you'll attract the young research fellows skilled in that arena.
You've got to stop preaching to a flock of one or the converted.
R.
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Jed in a nutshell, Carl Sagan: "Extraordinary claims, extraordinary
evidence".
I've got to go and may join in tomorrow. I just want to go out, eat, watch a
film and spy on the ladies.
Remi.
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Sent
Cheers Dr Swartz but:-
> As a result, success is still affected by chance. However, if the
> variables should combine to produce success, the sample is found to be
> 100% reproducible.
Came from somebody else's post not mine.
As regards to Steven I guess the difference between an Edison and
Very authoritarian and patrician.
You know the fable about the contest between the sun and the wind to see if
they could get a man to remove his coat?
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Sent: 16 September 2005 16:53
To: vortex-L@
Yes! Yed said the same as regards to his background in biology and his
dismissal of Creationism - if you can't design an experiment to test the
conjecture/hypothesis, you can't move things along.
Foisted on his own petard?
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You have to show that unlike other nuclear processes occurring in lattices
(say fission) that there is a preference to giving up the energy as phonons
at a certain frequency rather than photons. This might be possible if there
is a resonance effect.
By this resonance effect, talk of the M-B distri
Steven,
Yes but the super-conduction people were able to make substantial progress
with minimal theory.
It might be me, but if I have an inkling of what is going on I can design
experiments. Very much a method person me.
Remi.
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Ed wrote:
>Obviously, a mechanism exists that is not part of normal experience.
>That is why the effect is so hard to produce and requires a novel
>environment. People need to change their expectations and explore novel
>processes that only occur in a crystalline structure.
OK so if you have
> The problem is, by the time the debate is fully settled it may be too late
> to do stave off a catastrophe. We must act on the basis of incomplete and
> unsure information.
> - Jed
And on the flip side, look what world recessions do - 1929-1945.
Tax this, tax that, limit this limit that, l
Ed wrote:
>>
>> How do you get some charged moiety over the 10MeV or so barrier to even
>> get
>> near the nuclear forces (approx fm scale) and get substantial yield?
>> Let's
>> say you have some yield for hot fusion then this would get multiplied by
>> two
>> very small factors: a Maxwell-Boltz
Vo,
I've seen to have jumped back in and Fred was already at it.
So you are looking for a non conventional nuclear mechanism. You need
theory. Why won't the establishment entertain what CF theorists put forward?
Is it this stuff really a step too far? I'm sure matter is more stable than
you're mak
Dear Vo and CF'ers,
I tried to unsubscribe but sent it to the wrong address. Anyway, since I'm
here I have a naive question for CF'ers:
Let's not insult your integrity and the fact that you are saying that nearly
100% of your experiments are reproducible despite unbiased researchers
having difficu
Nuts Oh hazelnuts! Oooh! Cadburys make 'em and they cover 'em in chocolate!
I'll guess this will go on and on and on and on and on and go on and on and
on and on and on and go on and on and on and on and on and go on and on and
on and on and on and go on and on and on and on and on and go on and on and
on and on and on and go on and on and on and on and on and go on and on
Jed and CF'er
May be you are in a rut and pissed off. Negativity is not going to help you
is it? Of course there are a million and one conspiracies against you when
you are having a bad time!
As Ali G (Sacha Baron Cohen, comedian) might have put it:
"Is it cos I is CF? Da system is da Babylon, d
Thomas,
Careful with your posting, it looks like you're quoting me.
I like the one with the US company and the highly hygroscopic gels, can't
remember what they are called... Anyway they fly up into a storm and drop
these things into a thunder cloud, they absorb the water and humidity and
drop to
Jed,
I disagree, been there, done that. If you've worked with the patent system
or journeyman scientists in any institution you can meld them to your
objective. If you've ever seen it, see Nigel Hawthorne in "Yes Minister"
which is a British Sitcom about the political system. I love the one about
s
Jed,
My advice: Don't call it CF just report on excess heat or anomalous isotope
ratios in Pd alloys after refining process or some such. Keep on with the
peer review, get it into universities and get young grad students on it.
Once you are in, keep quiet, buy your chemicals and get the work done.
Being Devil's advocate...
Has anyone done DD on CF. Just where have the hundreds of millions gone and
all the countless man hours? Do you have anything to show for it? Any clear
direction too? It seems the highest labs in the land have been open to you
and you screwed up your chance.
The man in t
Title: Bearden
Weather control:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7995
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Sent: 14 September 2005 10:56
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Bearden
Weather modification and control migh
Let me coin a term: "Ghetto Research"
CF needs to get out of the doss house and into the suburbs where all the
nice people are.
...
Website
http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
...
Vo and CF'ers,
Trying to help you...
1) You really are being given an equal opportunity and you are squandering
your opportunities. If I had contacts like yours, 100s of millions of
dollars investment, 100s (thousands?) of people working on it, millions of
man hours, I would have more than just t
What do you mean?
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Behalf Of John Steck
Sent: 13 September 2005 16:31
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Mild eugenics and social engineering
Harrumph! Harrumph! 8^)
May be, if it does work, it just not as interesting as people make out. I'd
go down the elemental transmutation route if I were you because that seems
to be your niche.
It's a kind of CF-centric view of the world.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4230372.stm
So we are all thinking alike but as usual the BBC has its elitist leftwing
agenda.
I'm just gonna love it when broadband becomes better. How are you going to
justify a "license" for computers as people begin to use it for radio and
TV?
Surely the
N.O. should be a metaphor for ethnic minorities (there again I can't say
*which* ones even though I am one) to clear out the ghettos, the old
thoughts and practices and start afresh for a new century.
N.O. gave the world Jazz but we can give still more.
...
Web
Dr Storms,
Well put, measured and pragmatic. Nobody knows the answers but the answer
can't have a large state interference policy, forcible confiscation of
wealth and a political elite.
I guess we are all right of centre these days from the Reagan/Thatcher era
and still learning. The forces of dar
Steven,
It might be a waste of potential but the burden of guilt shouldn't be on the
West for this little girl and other children of potential in the third
world. Just how much more can you give?
The parents need to start looking at their condition, the corruption in
their countries, the waste of
They're at it again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4228940.stm
Who wants to be anybody's **"pet"** project? You want a pet - get a dog.
It'll follow you lovingly anywhere you want. Ah, but that's what you want
!?!
Those on the left should realise that people find their o
Further to that, you should get out more from your mansions and your
cloistered upper middle class existence and go take a walk (carry a gun or
don't do it at night) around the housing estates (housing projects) and see
what your hands on, left-wing *social engineering* does.
Take not of the waste
Jed, Steven,
Come off it, it's science.
R.
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Subject: RE: YK2, gurus, economics, mild eugenics.
> From: R.O.Cornwall
...
Fred,
Apparently when volcanoes go off we are talking billions of equivalent
mega-tonnes of TNT, cubic kilometres of rock, lots and lots of gas.
Remember Mt Pinatobe(?) I'm sure the weather took a little dip for a year
but things recovered.
It can't be that bad.
Remi.
___
Yes,
Learning to play classical music, reading to children, stable families
without domestic violence, taking care of mental and physical health, a
family dinner around the table with the TV off etc. etc.
It's the old nature nurture question. Though take a leaf out of sport, you
don't necessarily
Mathias,
I believe the dental care is free for under 16s and emergency via A+E is of
course free.
Jed,
On education: You can take the child out of the ghetto but can you take out
the ghetto out of the child...
This is controversial but hey, we like that stuff on Vo. Humans are subject
to the laws
Yes to the below.
USA is a strange society still coming to grips with the legacy of conquest,
guns, slavery, class and race. I guess Brazil has a similar problem.
I guess there are no uber-humans after all, nor God chosen ones too :)
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