Thankfully --
A thorough point-by-point scientific response to
NIST's video-game inspired "computer simulation" and
fictional culprit (never before seen in a real fire)
is being prepared by the group of Architects and
Professional Engineers in the construction industry
whose site was listed earlie
I beg to differ. The Warren Commission Report was not credible but
served a useful purpose.
www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/
Terry
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:39 PM, R C Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The NIST has prepared their report on the "collapse" of bldg 7
The NIST has prepared their report on the "collapse" of bldg 7 of the world
trade center.
NIST was funded 16 million dollars to prepare the report for posterity.
It is now on file.
Will it serve a useful purpose?
Not unless it is credible.
Richard
Harry Veeder wrote:
What does it take to ignite thermite?
Hi All,
Thermite can be ignited with a short thin strip
of magnesium metal, which can be lit with a match.
Every high school chemistry laboratory which
I spent any time at always had powdered aluminum
metal and iron oxide powder on hand
Jones Beene wrote:
> --- "Stephen A. Lawrence" wrote:
>
>> Now there is a problem here, which is that large
> buildings are put together via welding torches which,
> when they are used to weld beams
>
> That is apparently FALSE for that building.
>
> Where did you get this exactly? Please giv
--- "Stephen A. Lawrence" wrote:
> Now there is a problem here, which is that large
buildings are put together via welding torches which,
when they are used to weld beams
That is apparently FALSE for that building.
Where did you get this exactly? Please give us some
cites. I hope it was not fro
Harry Veeder wrote:
> on 24/8/08 2:49 pm, Jones Beene at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>> Steve Jones, no matter what his incorrect opinions may
>> be on LENR- found ample chemical evidence from the WTC
>> site and analyzed it under laboratory conditions. He
>> found evidence of Themate !!
>
>
--- Robin
> It isn't necessary for the scientists to lie. Just
tell them to find "the scientific explanation" for
the collapse of the building (as if it weren't already
known), and they will happily trot off and create lots
of lovely models to explain it. IOW they inadvertently
work within the f
[I am going to try posting with Gmail. I am tired of Mindspring's bad habits.]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>>a few people involved. If you want NIST to lie about an engineering
>>analysis, you would have to enlist thousands of experts world-wide to go
along.
>>
>[snip]
>It isn't necessary for the
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:19:53 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>That is at least plausible. It would be a small conspiracy with only
>a few people involved. If you want NIST to lie about an engineering
>analysis, you would have to enlist thousands of experts world-wide to go a
on 24/8/08 4:14 pm, Jones Beene at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Even if you do not speak Italian - please watch this
> video clip from Italian TV to the end - where you can
> hear and see the explosions at WTC 7 for yourself.
> There are other vids on the web but they are much
> longer than this one
Even if you do not speak Italian - please watch this
video clip from Italian TV to the end - where you can
hear and see the explosions at WTC 7 for yourself.
There are other vids on the web but they are much
longer than this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0
Now - Then tell me hones
--- Harry
> Could a fire ignite thermite?
This brings up a curious point.
There was indication in a link to the NY Architectural
Press some years ago that there is/was a statute on
the books in Manhattan -- which was put there in back
in the time frame when a WWII bomber crashed into the
Empire
--- Harry wrote:
> how did he {Prof. Jones] get his samples?
If what you are really asking is: is there a "chain of
custody" which would stand up in court - I doubt it.
The important thing for the NIST to have done,
however, is NOT to have ignored this, but to have
checked his sample in their l
on 24/8/08 3:20 pm, Jones Beene at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- Harry:
>
>> What does it take to ignite thermite?
>
> A small "charge" will do it, about what this officer
> heard:
>
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/100207heardbombs.htm
>
>
Could a fire ignite thermite?
--- Harry:
> What does it take to ignite thermite?
A small "charge" will do it, about what this officer
heard:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/100207heardbombs.htm
on 24/8/08 2:49 pm, Jones Beene at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Steve Jones, no matter what his incorrect opinions may
> be on LENR- found ample chemical evidence from the WTC
> site and analyzed it under laboratory conditions. He
> found evidence of Themate !!
how did he get his samples?
Harry
Since thermite is so effective at cutting through steel is it
ever used on construction sites as a fast and dirty substitute
for cutting torches?
harry
What does it take to ignite thermite?
Harry
on 24/8/08 2:49 pm, Jones Beene at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
>> Because Steve Jones has turned his back on
> rationality, he rushes to embrace things like the 9/11
> conspiracy theories, which are every bit as daft as
> his
--- Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Because Steve Jones has turned his back on
rationality, he rushes to embrace things like the 9/11
conspiracy theories, which are every bit as daft as
his notions about cold fusion. To paraphrase Lord
Chesterfield's remark about God, a man who stops
believing in experimen
Harry Veeder wrote:
Jones and
> Arata cling to the notion that they, and they alone, discovered cold
> fusion, and all other published results are "amateur mistakes" as
> Arata puts it.
which Arata is this?
The one and only inimitable Yoshiaki Arata, of Osaka U., Arata Hall.
He made these
Edmund Storms wrote:
The whole conspiracy approach is based on a profound distrust of
this government. While they could not go so far as to plant
explosives, how far would they go to gain an advantage by such an
event? Would they make sure the planes were not stopped?
That is at least plausi
on 24/8/08 1:26 pm, Jed Rothwell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Steve Jones does not believe cold fusion is real. He has seen
> incontrovertible evidence that it is real, and he has met for many
> days with people such as Miles and Storms, who have told him about
> their results in detail. B
While I agree completely with Jed, the question remains, "Did the
administration know that 9/11 was going to happen and did nothing to
prevent it?" The whole conspiracy approach is based on a profound
distrust of this government. While they could not go so far as to plant
explosives, how far wo
Jones Beene wrote:
> The release of the recent NIST coverup . . .
This conspiracy theorizing is nonsense. NIST would NEVER cover up
anything as big as this. It is inconceivable. (They make minor
transgressions of course, being human.)
My father worked at NIST. I know people who work at the C
How important is "Faith in Government" ?
Is it more important that absolute truth ?
Apparently so. The release of the recent NIST coverup
- oops, make that the *Final Word* from the Neocons
(until the next administration reviews it) brings to
mind another curious episode - in the context of
high-
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