Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-09 Thread Teslaalset
-Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:11 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication) One further thought/speculation on this. I was reading the other day

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-09 Thread Teslaalset
: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication) One further thought/speculation on this. I was reading the other day that the “Light Gas Gun” which is a hypersonic gun developed by the military, allows compressed hydrogen to produce acceleration of about 5-6 km

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-08 01:55, Jed Rothwell wrote: Today I was in touch with Celani and some others in this project. They are cooperating, planning together, and exchanging information. That is excellent news. [...] Yes; furthermore, it looks like the have many connections with reputable individuals

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Teslaalset
Celani seems still in charge though. He's providing the prepared Constantaan wire to this group. Question is whether Celani also shares the way to prepare the wire. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-10-08 01:55, Jed Rothwell wrote: Today

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-08 09:56, Teslaalset wrote: Celani seems still in charge though. He's providing the prepared Constantaan wire to this group. Question is whether Celani also shares the way to prepare the wire. As far as I know there's a related patent under preparation, which will contain all

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Teslaalset
A pending patent may take a lot of time, it this case likely more than a year. I'll ask Celani on the availability of details while visiting him in November in Rome. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-10-08 09:56, Teslaalset wrote: Celani

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread David Roberson
away was causing the large variations in emitted energy. Dave -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread David Roberson
, but this secret can not last long after products are released in either case. Dave -Original Message- From: Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:56 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
form of thermal run away was causing the large variations in emitted energy. Dave -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 3:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: That [Celani in charge] should not be a problem if Celani is willing and able to supply all the active wire that others need to verify the performance. Yup. That is what he is doing. The same would apply to Rossi if he were to give core modules

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote: ** Celani doesn't give us the current and voltage of its wires (heating or active wires). It might be interresting to see if there are some variability. I did not see any in the demo in Korea, except deliberate ones. The rapid fluctuations in

RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Jones Beene
David, I agree with this analysis, if I understand what you are saying, but I may be reading more into it than you are willing to do. In the end - it is most interesting that we would have a positive feedback mechanism but NOT positive thermal feedback. Yet that seems to be the case. That

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread David Roberson
8, 2012 3:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication) On 2012-10-08 01:55, Jed Rothwell wrote: Today I was in touch with Celani and some others in this project. They are cooperating, planning together, and exchanging information

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:37 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication) David, I agree with this analysis, if I understand what you are saying, but I may be reading more into it than you are willing to do

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Don’t we need to set up a thermal gradient to exploit any thermal - Curie point cycling? And if they are building an “incubator” the thermal gradient will fade. I do not think so. An incubator is just a constant temperature box with fans to

RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
19:29 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication) Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote: Celani doesn't give us the current and voltage of its wires (heating or active wires). It might be interresting to see

RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
To eliminate this incertitude, it should be nice to have current and voltage by time. _ From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: lundi 8 octobre 2012 19:48 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread David Roberson
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 1:37 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication) David, I agree with this analysis,if I understand what you are saying, but I may be reading more into it than youare willing to do

RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Jones Beene
FWIW: The Energetics Paper, recently discussed, shows the “burst effect” from ultrasound in much greater emphasis. But we expect it there. It is not impossible that ultrasound, or something akin to it, is also involved in Celani, even though his experiment is gas phase. There could be a surface

RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread Jones Beene
One further thought/speculation on this. I was reading the other day that the “Light Gas Gun” which is a hypersonic gun developed by the military, allows compressed hydrogen to produce acceleration of about 5-6 km/sec. This is similar to the speed of sound in nickel and about 4 times faster than

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-08 Thread David Roberson
these ultrasonic resonances a whole new family of possibilities emerge. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:11 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Today I was in touch with Celani and some others in this project. They are cooperating, planning together, and exchanging information. That is excellent news. This could be better than Rossi, even though Rossi's reaction appears to have some technical advantages over what Celani has accomplished

[Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is via E-Cat World. Check it out: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/progress-from-the-martin-fleischmann-memorial-project/ I chatted today with Bob Greenyer, one of the members of the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project, an organization whose goal is to provide irrefutable

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: This looks very promising. I agree. They seem capable. Their technological goals appear to be fairly specific and limited. I get the sense that they are proceeding systematically. They have identified an

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: A recent video of their labs and current progress (HD Quality): http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=26k3Cz3wW-8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26k3Cz3wW-8 Witness HUG making preparations for New Fire replication apparatus. I LOVE this! Look at