Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Daniel Kerr]

Lol Dim Tim,..is that like Dim Sim but takes a bit longer to cook? :) hehehe.
Sorry couldn’t resist,…lol :)
(and he knows I’m joking,…so that’s OK ) :)

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> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:16 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic.
> 
> Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of 
> different ways the phrases can be put together. 
> 
> Two and Two
> Factor and Step
> Verification and Authentication
> 
> I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication
> The older one is Two-step verification
> 
> In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I 
> imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course the 
> two words are in fact interchangeable. 
> 
> Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both!
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Ronni. 
>>> 
>>> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by 
>>> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 
>>> 
>>> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. 
>>> ;-). 
>>> 
>>> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor Verification  
>>> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. 
>> 
>> No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned in 
>> my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security.
>> 
>>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
>>> 
>>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
>>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
>>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
>>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
>>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
>>> later.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Cheers. 
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Tim,
 
 The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the 
 newer “Two-Factor Verification"
 I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
 iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification 
 ON
 
 When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
 devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit 
 verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to 
 provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
 Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or 
 make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need 
 to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit 
 verification code. 
 Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
 
 No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
 directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
 more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
 that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
 iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
 later.
 
 If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El 
 Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If 
 you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to 
 iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may 
 be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.
 
 Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to 
 users who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are 
 otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication.
 
 More details are at this link:
 
 Published Date: Nov 15, 2017
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law 

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Ronda Brown]

Haha Tim, you could be right, but then you could be wrong 
We will know which at the end of the AFL season...
Best of luck!

I’m out of here now before we get into trouble from committee for going ‘Off 
Topic” and not Apple Mac related… only if Steve Jobs was still alive he would 
be supporting my club, Collingwood ‘The Pies’ as he liked ‘Black & White’... 
;-))

Cheers,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 15 Apr 2018, at 7:01 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> And Richmond remain Premiers
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:59 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Not a problem Tim, all good 
>> And ‘The Pies’ had a great win Friday night 壟
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:16 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic.
>>> 
>>> Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of 
>>> different ways the phrases can be put together. 
>>> 
>>> Two and Two
>>> Factor and Step
>>> Verification and Authentication
>>> 
>>> I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication
>>> The older one is Two-step verification
>>> 
>>> In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I 
>>> imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course 
>>> the two words are in fact interchangeable. 
>>> 
>>> Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both!
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 
 
 
  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 
 
> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni. 
> 
> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated 
> by two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 
> 
> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. 
> ;-). 
> 
> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor 
> Verification  you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term 
> that Apple use. 
 
 No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned 
 in my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security.
 
> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
> 
> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers 
> a more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain 
> features that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is 
> available to iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El 
> Capitan or later.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
> 
> Cheers. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the 
>> newer “Two-Factor Verification"
>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in 
>> my iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step 
>> Verification ON
>> 
>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 
>> 4-digit verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're 
>> required to provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, 
>> or make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you 
>> need to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 
>> 4-digit verification code. 
>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
>> 
>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers 
>> a more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain 
>> features that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is 
>> available to iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X 
>> El Capitan or later.
>> 
>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X 
>> El Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication 
>> instead. If you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then 
>> you upgrade to iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your 
>> security settings may be automatically upgraded to two-factor 
>> authentication.
>> 
>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to 
>> users who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are 

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Tim Law]

And Richmond remain Premiers


> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:59 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Not a problem Tim, all good 
> And ‘The Pies’ had a great win Friday night 壟
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:16 pm, Tim Law  > wrote:
> 
>> Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic.
>> 
>> Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of 
>> different ways the phrases can be put together. 
>> 
>> Two and Two
>> Factor and Step
>> Verification and Authentication
>> 
>> I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication
>> The older one is Two-step verification
>> 
>> In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I 
>> imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course 
>> the two words are in fact interchangeable. 
>> 
>> Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both!
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Ronni. 
 
 I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated 
 by two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 
 
 I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. 
 ;-). 
 
 I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor Verification 
  you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. 
>>> 
>>> No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned 
>>> in my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security.
>>> 
 Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
 
 No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
 directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
 more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
 that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
 iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
 later.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
 
 Cheers. 
 
 Tim
 
 Sent from Tim's iPhone
 
 On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown > wrote:
 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the 
> newer “Two-Factor Verification"
> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step 
> Verification ON
> 
> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 
> 4-digit verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're 
> required to provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or 
> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need 
> to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit 
> verification code. 
> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
> 
> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers 
> a more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain 
> features that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is 
> available to iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El 
> Capitan or later.
> 
> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X 
> El Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. 
> If you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade 
> to iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings 
> may be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.
> 
> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to 
> users who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are 
> otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication.
> 
> More details are at this link:
>  >
> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ronni,
>> 
>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in 

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Ronda Brown]

Not a problem Tim, all good 
And ‘The Pies’ had a great win Friday night 壟

Cheers,
Ronni 
 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:16 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic.
> 
> Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of 
> different ways the phrases can be put together. 
> 
> Two and Two
> Factor and Step
> Verification and Authentication
> 
> I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication
> The older one is Two-step verification
> 
> In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I 
> imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course the 
> two words are in fact interchangeable. 
> 
> Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both!
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Ronni. 
>>> 
>>> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by 
>>> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 
>>> 
>>> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. 
>>> ;-). 
>>> 
>>> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor Verification  
>>> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. 
>> 
>> No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned in 
>> my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security.
>> 
>>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
>>> 
>>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
>>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
>>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
>>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
>>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
>>> later.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Cheers. 
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the 
 newer “Two-Factor Verification"
 I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
 iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification 
 ON
 
 When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
 devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit 
 verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to 
 provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
 Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or 
 make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need 
 to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit 
 verification code. 
 Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
 
 No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
 directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
 more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
 that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
 iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
 later.
 
 If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El 
 Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If 
 you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to 
 iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may 
 be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.
 
 Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to 
 users who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are 
 otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication.
 
 More details are at this link:
 
 Published Date: Nov 15, 2017
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Hello Ronni,
> 
> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in 
> Jun 3, 2016.
> 
> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the 
> Security area as per the direction, there are five options:
> 
> PASSWORD
> Change Password… 
> 
> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS 
> Add a Trusted Phone Number…
> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in 
> and to recover your account if you lose access.
> 
> APP-SPECIFIC 

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Tim Law]

Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic.

Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of 
different ways the phrases can be put together. 

Two and Two
Factor and Step
Verification and Authentication

I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication
The older one is Two-step verification

In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I 
imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course the 
two words are in fact interchangeable. 

Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both!

Tim


> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law  > wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ronni. 
>> 
>> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by 
>> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 
>> 
>> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. 
>> ;-). 
>> 
>> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor Verification  
>> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. 
> 
> No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned in 
> my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security.
> 
>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
>> 
>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
>> later.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>> 
>> Cheers. 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the 
>>> newer “Two-Factor Verification"
>>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
>>> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification 
>>> ON
>>> 
>>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
>>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit 
>>> verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to 
>>> provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
>>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or 
>>> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need 
>>> to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit 
>>> verification code. 
>>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
>>> 
>>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
>>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
>>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
>>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
>>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
>>> later.
>>> 
>>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El 
>>> Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If 
>>> you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to 
>>> iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may 
>>> be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.
>>> 
>>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to 
>>> users who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are 
>>> otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication.
>>> 
>>> More details are at this link:
>>> >> >
>>> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law > wrote:
 
 Hello Ronni,
 
 I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in Jun 
 3, 2016.
 
 When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the 
 Security area as per the direction, there are five options:
 
 PASSWORD
 Change Password… 
 
 TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS 
 Add a Trusted Phone Number…
 Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in and 
 to recover your account if you lose access.
 
 APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS
 Generate Password…
 Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not 
 provided by Apple.Learn more.
 
 NOTIFICATION EMAIL
 @email address
 Remove

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Ronda Brown]

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni. 
> 
> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by 
> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 
> 
> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. 
> ;-). 
> 
> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor Verification  
> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. 

No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned in my 
previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security.

> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
> 
> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features that 
> call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to iCloud 
> users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or later.

Cheers,
Ronni
> 
> Cheers. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the newer 
>> “Two-Factor Verification"
>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
>> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification ON
>> 
>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit 
>> verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to 
>> provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or 
>> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need to 
>> verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit 
>> verification code. 
>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
>> 
>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
>> later.
>> 
>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El 
>> Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If 
>> you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to iOS 
>> 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may be 
>> automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.
>> 
>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to users 
>> who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are otherwise 
>> ineligible for two-factor authentication.
>> 
>> More details are at this link:
>> 
>> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ronni,
>>> 
>>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in Jun 
>>> 3, 2016.
>>> 
>>> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the 
>>> Security area as per the direction, there are five options:
>>> 
>>> PASSWORD
>>> Change Password… 
>>> 
>>> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS 
>>> Add a Trusted Phone Number…
>>> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in and 
>>> to recover your account if you lose access.
>>> 
>>> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS
>>> Generate Password…
>>> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not 
>>> provided by Apple.Learn more.
>>> 
>>> NOTIFICATION EMAIL
>>> @email address
>>> Remove
>>> Edit Email Address… 
>>> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and 
>>> security related information.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION
>>> On
>>> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID 
>>> is used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more.
>>> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As per my previous email, I’ve found a solution which works. Apple just 
>>> needs to update it’s help files, unless I have missed something.
>>> 
>>> Ta
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 If you lost your Recovery Key
 As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to 
 one of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery Key.
 Go to your Apple ID account page.
 Sign in with your password and 

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Tim Law]

Thanks Ronni. 

I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by two 
factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 

I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. ;-). 

I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor Verification  you 
wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. 

Cheers. 

Tim

Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the newer 
> “Two-Factor Verification"
> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification ON
> 
> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit 
> verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to 
> provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or 
> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need to 
> verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit 
> verification code. 
> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
> 
> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features that 
> call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to iCloud 
> users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or later.
> 
> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El 
> Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If you 
> use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to iOS 11 
> or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may be 
> automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.
> 
> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to users 
> who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are otherwise 
> ineligible for two-factor authentication.
> 
> More details are at this link:
> 
> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ronni,
>> 
>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in Jun 
>> 3, 2016.
>> 
>> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the 
>> Security area as per the direction, there are five options:
>> 
>> PASSWORD
>> Change Password… 
>> 
>> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS 
>> Add a Trusted Phone Number…
>> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in and 
>> to recover your account if you lose access.
>> 
>> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS
>> Generate Password…
>> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not 
>> provided by Apple.Learn more.
>> 
>> NOTIFICATION EMAIL
>> @email address
>> Remove
>> Edit Email Address… 
>> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and 
>> security related information.
>> 
>> 
>> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION
>> On
>> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID is 
>> used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more.
>> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication
>> 
>> 
>> As per my previous email, I’ve found a solution which works. Apple just 
>> needs to update it’s help files, unless I have missed something.
>> 
>> Ta
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> If you lost your Recovery Key
>>> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to one 
>>> of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery Key.
>>> Go to your Apple ID account page.
>>> Sign in with your password and trusted device.
>>> In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key.
>>> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't 
>>> work anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your 
>>> account.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
 On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law  wrote:
 
 Solution found.  :-)
 
 Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will need 
 to generate a new Verification Code.  Then instead of using ONLY the 
 AppleID password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of 

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Tim,

The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the newer 
“Two-Factor Verification"
I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification ON

When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit 
verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to 
provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or make 
an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need to verify 
your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit verification code. 
Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?

No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built directly 
into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a more 
streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features that call 
for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to iCloud users 
with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or later.

If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El 
Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If you 
use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to iOS 11 or 
later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may be 
automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.

Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to users 
who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are otherwise 
ineligible for two-factor authentication.

More details are at this link:

Published Date: Nov 15, 2017

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Hello Ronni,
> 
> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in Jun 3, 
> 2016.
> 
> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the Security 
> area as per the direction, there are five options:
> 
> PASSWORD
> Change Password… 
> 
> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS 
> Add a Trusted Phone Number…
> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in and to 
> recover your account if you lose access.
> 
> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS
> Generate Password…
> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not 
> provided by Apple.Learn more.
> 
> NOTIFICATION EMAIL
> @email address
> Remove
> Edit Email Address… 
> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and security 
> related information.
> 
> 
> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION
> On
> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID is 
> used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more.
> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication
> 
> 
> As per my previous email, I’ve found a solution which works. Apple just needs 
> to update it’s help files, unless I have missed something.
> 
> Ta
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> If you lost your Recovery Key
>> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to one 
>> of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery Key.
>> Go to your Apple ID account page .
>> Sign in with your password and trusted device.
>> In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key.
>> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't work 
>> anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your account.
>> 
>> > >
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Solution found.  :-)
>>> 
>>> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will need to 
>>> generate a new Verification Code.  Then instead of using ONLY the AppleID 
>>> password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of the password in 
>>> one long string. 
>>> 
>>> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law > wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for a 
 while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated Two 
 Factor authentication some time ago. I am 

Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Tim Law]

Hello Ronni,

I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in Jun 3, 
2016.

When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the Security 
area as per the direction, there are five options:

PASSWORD
Change Password… 

TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS 
Add a Trusted Phone Number…
Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in and to 
recover your account if you lose access.

APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS
Generate Password…
Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not provided 
by Apple.Learn more.

NOTIFICATION EMAIL
@email address
Remove
Edit Email Address… 
Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and security 
related information.


TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION
On
Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID is 
used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more.
Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication


As per my previous email, I’ve found a solution which works. Apple just needs 
to update it’s help files, unless I have missed something.

Ta

Tim




> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> If you lost your Recovery Key
> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to one 
> of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery Key.
> Go to your Apple ID account page .
> Sign in with your password and trusted device.
> In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key.
> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't work 
> anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your account.
> 
>  >
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law > > wrote:
>> 
>> Solution found.  :-)
>> 
>> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will need to 
>> generate a new Verification Code.  Then instead of using ONLY the AppleID 
>> password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of the password in 
>> one long string. 
>> 
>> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for a 
>>> while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated Two 
>>> Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX 10.13.4 
>>> and iOS 11.3
>>> 
>>> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072 
>>>   “Generate a recovery key after 
>>> you update to two-factor authentication” it gives the directions to go to 
>>> iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the only option is 
>>> to give an Verification Code, not a Recover Key.
>>> 
>>> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID 
>>> password and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key.
>>> 
>>> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I would 
>>> have stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so because I cannot 
>>> find it.  
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move 
>>> forward for this old iPad.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Tim
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Re: Generate new Recovery Key

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Tim,

If you lost your Recovery Key
As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to one of 
your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery Key.
Go to your Apple ID account page .
Sign in with your password and trusted device.
In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key.
Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't work 
anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your account.




Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Solution found.  :-)
> 
> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will need to 
> generate a new Verification Code.  Then instead of using ONLY the AppleID 
> password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of the password in 
> one long string. 
> 
> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for a 
>> while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated Two 
>> Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX 10.13.4 
>> and iOS 11.3
>> 
>> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072  “Generate a recovery key after 
>> you update to two-factor authentication” it gives the directions to go to 
>> iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the only option is 
>> to give an Verification Code, not a Recover Key.
>> 
>> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID password 
>> and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key.
>> 
>> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I would have 
>> stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so because I cannot find 
>> it.  
>> 
>> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move 
>> forward for this old iPad.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Tim

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[Tim Law]

Solution found.  :-)

Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will need to 
generate a new Verification Code.  Then instead of using ONLY the AppleID 
password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of the password in one 
long string. 

Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. 

Cheers

Tim





> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for a 
> while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated Two 
> Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX 10.13.4 and 
> iOS 11.3
> 
> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072  “Generate a recovery key after 
> you update to two-factor authentication” it gives the directions to go to 
> iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the only option is to 
> give an Verification Code, not a Recover Key.
> 
> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID password 
> and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key.
> 
> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I would have 
> stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so because I cannot find 
> it.  
> 
> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move forward 
> for this old iPad.
> 
> Thanks
> Tim
> 
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[Tim Law]

Hello,

I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for a while. 
I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated Two Factor 
authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX 10.13.4 and iOS 11.3

In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072  “Generate a recovery key after you 
update to two-factor authentication” it gives the directions to go to iCloud 
preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the only option is to give an 
Verification Code, not a Recover Key.

in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID password 
and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key.

I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I would have 
stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so because I cannot find it. 
 

Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move forward 
for this old iPad.

Thanks
Tim

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