Re: [WAMUG] Spam.

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Not me either !

   On 6 Mar 2024, at 8:34 am, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:

   Hi Tony
   Not appearing to the list.
   But I think they are just “pretending” to be wamug.
   If you can forward me the email (including the header information), I
   can have a look at it and advise.
   (Preferably send off list please, or “forward as attachment” if my
   server bounces it - as it may think it’s spam).
   Thanks
   Kind regards
   Daniel
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 On 6 Mar 2024, at 2:56 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi Guy’s
 Just like to let you know that I keep getting these e-mails on a
 regular basis, and I’m wondering if anyone else is getting them?
 Kind Regards
 Tony Francis
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Re: [WAMUG] Spam.

[Daniel Kerr via WAMUG]

Hi Tony

Not appearing to the list.
But I think they are just “pretending” to be wamug.
If you can forward me the email (including the header information), I can have 
a look at it and advise.
(Preferably send off list please, or “forward as attachment” if my server 
bounces it - as it may think it’s spam).

Thanks

Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 6 Mar 2024, at 2:56 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Guy’s
> 
> Just like to let you know that I keep getting these e-mails on a regular 
> basis, and I’m wondering if anyone else is getting them?
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony Francis
> 
> BODDINGTON
> W.A.
> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Spam.

[Peter Curtis via WAMUG]

Not me!


> On 6 Mar 2024, at 2:56 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Guy’s
> 
> Just like to let you know that I keep getting these e-mails on a regular 
> basis, and I’m wondering if anyone else is getting them?
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony Francis
> 
> BODDINGTON
> W.A.
> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Spam.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hi Guy’s

Just like to let you know that I keep getting these e-mails on a regular basis, 
and I’m wondering if anyone else is getting them?

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

BODDINGTON
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Spam?

[Peter Curtis]

Hi all
I have just received this email from wamug?
Is it kosha?

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Re: Spam on devices

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Thank you, Ronnie.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 18:35, Ronni Brown  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> Spammers are getting smarter, and as long as they have your right server
> address, it doesn’t matter what name.
> All you can do especially in POP email accounts in iOS12 is Mark the Spam
> messages as Junk & have move them to Junk:
>
> *Moving Spam Emails to the Junk Folder*
> The iOS Mail app offers a couple of ways to move mail to a Junk
> folder—even in bulk.
> Among the convenient features that come with an email account that is
> web-based is spam filtering right at the server.
> Moving mail to the Junk folder in iOS Mail notifies the spam filter at the
> server that it missed an unwanted spam email, so it can stop it next time.
>
> To move a message to an account's Junk folder in iOS, open the inbox that
> contains the email:
> With the spam message open:
>
>1. Tap the *flag* button.
>2. Select *Move to Junk* from the menu.
>
> In the message list:
>
>1. Swipe across the message from the right to left just enough to
>reveal the *More* menu.
>2. Tap *More*
>3. Select *Mark*
>4. Select *Move to Junk*
>[image: 120980b1-08f3-4fec-8d9a-f9faf62aaf2b.gif]
>
>Cheers,
>Ronni
>
>*13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
>1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>
>macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>
>
>
> On 13 Nov 2018, at 5:28 pm, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you Ronnie.  The spam mail is coming into POP accounts .  The mail
> is from various addresses and so the rules I have set up on my computer
> refer to subject and words in the content.
> How is it that my ISP sends them although the user names they are sent to
> are not mine?
>
> Regards,
> Jennifer
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 15:49, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>> If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad
>> should not receive any mail messages from that Address.
>> What type of email account is the Spam coming to?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>
>> *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>
>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>>
>> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered
>> with spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic
>> photos.  They have the right server address, but not the correct user name.
>> I have successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The
>> server says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling
>> that email account?
>>
>> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
>> Regards,
>> Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: Spam on devices

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Jennifer,

Spammers are getting smarter, and as long as they have your right server 
address, it doesn’t matter what name.
All you can do especially in POP email accounts in iOS12 is Mark the Spam 
messages as Junk & have move them to Junk:

Moving Spam Emails to the Junk Folder
The iOS Mail app offers a couple of ways to move mail to a Junk folder—even in 
bulk. 
Among the convenient features that come with an email account that is web-based 
is spam filtering right at the server. 
Moving mail to the Junk folder in iOS Mail notifies the spam filter at the 
server that it missed an unwanted spam email, so it can stop it next time.

To move a message to an account's Junk folder in iOS, open the inbox that 
contains the email:
With the spam message open:
Tap the flag button.
Select Move to Junk from the menu.
In the message list:
Swipe across the message from the right to left just enough to reveal the More 
menu. 
Tap More
Select Mark
Select Move to Junk


Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.6


> On 13 Nov 2018, at 5:28 pm, Jennifer Lefroy  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ronnie.  The spam mail is coming into POP accounts .  The mail is 
> from various addresses and so the rules I have set up on my computer refer to 
> subject and words in the content.
> How is it that my ISP sends them although the user names they are sent to are 
> not mine?
> 
> Regards,
> Jennifer
> 
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 15:49, Ronni Brown  <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad should 
> not receive any mail messages from that Address.
> What type of email account is the Spam coming to?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy > <mailto:lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered 
>> with spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic 
>> photos.  They have the right server address, but not the correct user name. 
>> I have successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The 
>> server says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling 
>> that email account?   
>> 
>> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
>> Regards,
>> Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: Spam on devices

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Thank you Ronnie.  The spam mail is coming into POP accounts .  The mail is
from various addresses and so the rules I have set up on my computer refer
to subject and words in the content.
How is it that my ISP sends them although the user names they are sent to
are not mine?

Regards,
Jennifer

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 15:49, Ronni Brown  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad
> should not receive any mail messages from that Address.
> What type of email account is the Spam coming to?
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>
> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered
> with spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic
> photos.  They have the right server address, but not the correct user name.
> I have successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The
> server says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling
> that email account?
>
> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
> Regards,
> Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: Spam on devices

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Jennifer,

If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad should 
not receive any mail messages from that Address.
What type of email account is the Spam coming to?

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.6

> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy  
> wrote:
> 
> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered with 
> spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic photos.  
> They have the right server address, but not the correct user name. I have 
> successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The server 
> says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling that email 
> account?   
> 
> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
> Regards,
> Jennifer Lefroy
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Spam on devices

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered
with spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic
photos.  They have the right server address, but not the correct user name.
I have successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The
server says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling
that email account?

I will be grateful for any suggestion.
Regards,
Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: SPAM

[Rod Blitvich]

Thanks Ronni
Yeah I figured I needed to look at that and did so yesterday
maybe it’s now got better
ta
Blitto



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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  



> On 2 Feb 2018, at 12:11 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t going to remind members to check their Junk Mail settings as I was 
> assuming you all have Junk Mail set up on your Macs. But then thought I 
> should not always assume all Members have taken our advise over the years.
> 
> Make sure you have your ‘Junk Mail’ settings correct in Mail > Preferences > 
> Junk Mail.
> "I consider these settings to be the optimal Junk Mail settings in Mail.
> 
> Select - Enable junk mail filtering
> 
> When junk mail arrives:
> Select - Move it to the Junk mailbox
> 
> The following types of messages are exempt from junk mail filtering:
> Select - Sender of message is in my contacts
> Select - Sender of message is in my Previous Recipients
> 
> Select - Trust junk mail headers in messages
> DON’T Select - Filter junk mail headers before applying my rules
> (Note about the last checkbox, Filter junk mail before Applying My Rules.)
> Ordinary, the Junk Mail filter runs after your rules, meaning your rules 
> process all incoming spam messages and therefore may move some of them before 
> the spam filter gets a chance to put them in the Junk Mailbox. Checking this 
> box makes the Junk Mail filter run first, which reduces that problem while 
> possibly producing a higher number of false positives. 
> 
> I’m assuming that you’ve set up good rules—so messages processed by your 
> rules are usually “real” mail— and suggest leaving this unchecked.
> 
> Mail’s Junk Mail filter gets smarter and more accurate as you use it— but 
> only if you tell it the truth! That means always correcting it when it makes 
> a mistake. If Mail fails to move a spam message to Junk, select it and click 
> the Junk  button on the toolbar. 
> In addition, scan your Junk mailbox every few days or so to make sure Mail 
> hasn’t mistakenly marked a good message as spam. If you find a legitimate 
> message, select it, click the Not Junk  button on 
> the toolbar, and drag the message back to your Inbox. (If you don’t see the 
> Junk or Not Junk  button, that’s because they’re the 
> same button—the name changes depending on whether Mail thinks the selected 
> message is spam or not.)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.3
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:37 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> As Tim has mentioned NEVER click on ‘unsubscribe’ SPAM emails!
>> If you do you will be smothered in more SPAM emails.
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 10:27 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au 
>>> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I never click on any unsubscribe button unless it’s from an apparently 
>>> legitimate source. Otherwise you’re simply assuring them they have the 
>>> spammers dream - a live email address. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 9:35 am, Peter Curtis <pe...@augold.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>>>> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Folks
>>>>> I am with iinet
>>>>> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
>>>>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>>> ta
>>>>> Blitto
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>>> Good Ideas 
>>>>> 0409 681 256  
>>>>> rb...@iinet.net.au <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au> 
>>>>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SPAM

[Ronni Brown]

I wasn’t going to remind members to check their Junk Mail settings as I was 
assuming you all have Junk Mail set up on your Macs. But then thought I should 
not always assume all Members have taken our advise over the years.

Make sure you have your ‘Junk Mail’ settings correct in Mail > Preferences > 
Junk Mail.
"I consider these settings to be the optimal Junk Mail settings in Mail.

Select - Enable junk mail filtering

When junk mail arrives:
Select - Move it to the Junk mailbox

The following types of messages are exempt from junk mail filtering:
Select - Sender of message is in my contacts
Select - Sender of message is in my Previous Recipients

Select - Trust junk mail headers in messages
DON’T Select - Filter junk mail headers before applying my rules
(Note about the last checkbox, Filter junk mail before Applying My Rules.)
Ordinary, the Junk Mail filter runs after your rules, meaning your rules 
process all incoming spam messages and therefore may move some of them before 
the spam filter gets a chance to put them in the Junk Mailbox. Checking this 
box makes the Junk Mail filter run first, which reduces that problem while 
possibly producing a higher number of false positives. 

I’m assuming that you’ve set up good rules—so messages processed by your rules 
are usually “real” mail— and suggest leaving this unchecked.

Mail’s Junk Mail filter gets smarter and more accurate as you use it— but only 
if you tell it the truth! That means always correcting it when it makes a 
mistake. If Mail fails to move a spam message to Junk, select it and click the 
Junk  button on the toolbar. 
In addition, scan your Junk mailbox every few days or so to make sure Mail 
hasn’t mistakenly marked a good message as spam. If you find a legitimate 
message, select it, click the Not Junk  button on the toolbar, and drag the 
message back to your Inbox. (If you don’t see the Junk or Not Junk  button, 
that’s because they’re the same button—the name changes depending on whether 
Mail thinks the selected message is spam or not.)


Cheers,
Ronni

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> On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:37 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> As Tim has mentioned NEVER click on ‘unsubscribe’ SPAM emails!
> If you do you will be smothered in more SPAM emails.
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 10:27 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I never click on any unsubscribe button unless it’s from an apparently 
>> legitimate source. Otherwise you’re simply assuring them they have the 
>> spammers dream - a live email address. 
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 9:35 am, Peter Curtis <pe...@augold.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Folks
>>>> I am with iinet
>>>> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
>>>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>> ta
>>>> Blitto
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>> Good Ideas 
>>>> 0409 681 256  
>>>> rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>>> 




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Re: SPAM

[Tim Law]

I never click on any unsubscribe button unless it’s from an apparently 
legitimate source. Otherwise you’re simply assuring them they have the spammers 
dream - a live email address. 

Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 2 Feb 2018, at 9:35 am, Peter Curtis <pe...@augold.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks
>> I am with iinet
>> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>> ta
>> Blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>> Good Ideas 
>> 0409 681 256  
>> rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> 
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Re: SPAM

[Peter Curtis]

Hi
Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
Kind regards
Peter

> On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> I am with iinet
> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
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Re: SPAM

[FW]

Hi Rod,

Yes, same here.
The annoying thing is, that there is often no “unsubscribe” button on the 
email. (BitCoin™ etc)
And lots of others that have the unsubscribe,  but when you click on it a 
webpage opens with a
some other sales campaign etc.

Cheers
Walter


> On 2 Feb 2018, at 06:02 , Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> I am with iinet
> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email 
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
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SPAM

[Rod Blitvich]

Hi Folks
I am with iinet
In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
Has anyone else experienced this?
ta
Blitto



Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
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Re: Spam purported to be from Apple

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Rob, 

Regards

A loyal Apple ‘costumer’ 


> On 23 Nov 2016, at 4:38 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> It's not google - it's a scam. The actual address, hidden in the long google 
> string is 'staging.btvin.com'.
> 
> I get these regularly, and ignore them.
> Rob
> 
> 
> On 23/11/2016 2:12 pm, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> Just a heads-up:
>> 
>> Received an email supposedly from Apple about resetting my Apple ID password 
>> — claiming I recently requested a password reset for my Apple ID  — I 
>> didn’t. Hovered my mouse over the several links in the email, and this is 
>> what it said ( crippled the link):
>> 
>> ww.google.com.au/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwimsKmOvL3QAhVEGJQKHZfjB-UQFggaMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fstaging.btvin.com%2F=AFQjCNEV3TjhrU5cVKWDbrekPApkUz-shw=bv.139250283,d.dGo
>> 
>> The body of the email starts out:
>> 
>> "Dear costumer,
>> You recently requested a password reset for your Apple ID. To complete the 
>> process, click the link below.…”
>> 
>> If this really is from Google, I would really like to know why — it seems to 
>> me Google is getting far too big with tentacles into far too many things. I 
>> sent the information to Scamwatch.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Pat
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Re: Spam purported to be from Apple

[Rob Phillips]

It's not google - it's a scam. The actual address, hidden in the long 
google string is 'staging.btvin.com'.


I get these regularly, and ignore them.
Rob


On 23/11/2016 2:12 pm, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Just a heads-up:

Received an email supposedly from Apple about resetting my Apple ID password — 
claiming I recently requested a password reset for my Apple ID  — I didn’t. 
Hovered my mouse over the several links in the email, and this is what it said 
( crippled the link):

ww.google.com.au/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwimsKmOvL3QAhVEGJQKHZfjB-UQFggaMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fstaging.btvin.com%2F=AFQjCNEV3TjhrU5cVKWDbrekPApkUz-shw=bv.139250283,d.dGo

The body of the email starts out:

"Dear costumer,
You recently requested a password reset for your Apple ID. To complete the 
process, click the link below.…”

If this really is from Google, I would really like to know why — it seems to me 
Google is getting far too big with tentacles into far too many things. I sent 
the information to Scamwatch.

Cheers,
Pat
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Re: Spam purported to be from Apple

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Pat



> On 23 Nov. 2016, at 2:12 pm, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> Just a heads-up:
> 
> Received an email supposedly from Apple about resetting my Apple ID password 
> — claiming I recently requested a password reset for my Apple ID  — I didn’t. 
> Hovered my mouse over the several links in the email, and this is what it 
> said ( crippled the link):
> 
> ww.google.com.au/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwimsKmOvL3QAhVEGJQKHZfjB-UQFggaMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fstaging.btvin.com%2F=AFQjCNEV3TjhrU5cVKWDbrekPApkUz-shw=bv.139250283,d.dGo
>  
> 
> The body of the email starts out: 
> 
> "Dear costumer,
> You recently requested a password reset for your Apple ID. To complete the 
> process, click the link below.…”
> 
> If this really is from Google, I would really like to know why — it seems to 
> me Google is getting far too big with tentacles into far too many things. I 
> sent the information to Scamwatch.
> 
> Cheers,
> Pat
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Spam purported to be from Apple

[clamshell]

Just a heads-up:

Received an email supposedly from Apple about resetting my Apple ID password — 
claiming I recently requested a password reset for my Apple ID  — I didn’t. 
Hovered my mouse over the several links in the email, and this is what it said 
( crippled the link):

ww.google.com.au/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwimsKmOvL3QAhVEGJQKHZfjB-UQFggaMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fstaging.btvin.com%2F=AFQjCNEV3TjhrU5cVKWDbrekPApkUz-shw=bv.139250283,d.dGo
 

The body of the email starts out: 

"Dear costumer,
You recently requested a password reset for your Apple ID. To complete the 
process, click the link below.…”

If this really is from Google, I would really like to know why — it seems to me 
Google is getting far too big with tentacles into far too many things. I sent 
the information to Scamwatch.

Cheers,
Pat
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Re: Spam designation

[David Nicholas]

I didn’t get one either, Severin.

I was at the 1965 Albany Summer School.  It was excellent.  I can remember lots 
of the sessions.

I don’t think you were there, though.  Is that just my memory failing me?

David

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 3:38 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> You did not get one Neil as you were not at the 2016 school and requested 
> brochure send out by email rather than ordinary mail.  Seemed a good idea but 
> like so many simple things it does not always quite work like that!  
> Severin
> 
>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 11:20 AM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
> __
>  
>  ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>PO Box 5146
>Albany, WA, 6332
>Secretary, Severin Crisp
>15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>Ph (08) 9842 1950
> email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
>  http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Re: Spam designation

[Severin Crisp]

You did not get one Neil as you were not at the 2016 school and requested 
brochure send out by email rather than ordinary mail.  Seemed a good idea but 
like so many simple things it does not always quite work like that!  
Severin

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 11:20 AM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> 

__
 
 ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
   PO Box 5146
   Albany, WA, 6332
   Secretary, Severin Crisp
   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
   Ph (08) 9842 1950
email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
 http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Re: Spam designation

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Severin,

As a past student of the Albany Summer School, where is MY Albany Summer
School SPAM  ;o)


One thing I have noticed is that, as spammers get more creative, so spam
filters try and adapt and, in some cases, flag quite legitimate emails as
SPAM - also, one persons informative email is another persons SPAM - but
that's another story  ;o)


I believe, email clients will not classify emails from someone in your
address book as SPAM - which is why many organisations which communicate by
email add a message along the lines of:

**
To ensure that you always receive our correspondence directly into your
inbox please add albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au to your address book.
**

Just a thought.


HTH



Cheers




Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




on 14/6/16 13:37, Severin Crisp at sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating with
> large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email.
> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
It
> is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the track.
> 
Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails
> be sent to a single committee address and ³bcc² to the large group?  
Thank
> you
Severin Crisp
__

> 
 ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
   PO Box 5146

> Albany, WA, 6332
   Secretary, Severin Crisp
   15
> Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
   Ph (08) 9842 1950

> email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au

> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Re: Spam designation

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks Ronni 
Sorry about that insomnia
Severin

Sent from Sev & Jenny's iPhone

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 6:54 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Severin, A couple of other thoughts during my insomnia sleep last night.
> 
> 1. Check your Group recipients list for any invalid (no longer is use) email 
> addresses. An invalid address can cause a Spam flag to recipients further 
> down the list.
> 
> 2. Have easy 'Opt In' (subscribe) & Opt Out (unsubscribe) and a message 
> confirming.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 10:12 PM, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks very much Ronni
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 8:19 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by 
>>> the receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.
>>> 
>>> Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
>>> albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au
>>> Some requirements: 
>>> 
>>> 1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
>>> “Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name 
>>> and email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business 
>>> who initiated the message.
>>> 
>>> 2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately 
>>> reflect the content of the message.
>>> 
>>> 3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your 
>>> valid physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a 
>>> post office box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
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>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating 
>>>> with large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
>>>> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
>>>> It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
>>>> track. 
>>>> Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group 
>>>> emails be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group? 
>>>>  
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Severin Crisp
>>>> __
>>>> 
>>>> ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>>>>   PO Box 5146
>>>>   Albany, WA, 6332
>>>>   Secretary, Severin Crisp
>>>>   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>>>>   Ph (08) 9842 1950
>>>>email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
>>>> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Re: Spam designation

[Ronda Brown]

Severin, A couple of other thoughts during my insomnia sleep last night.

1. Check your Group recipients list for any invalid (no longer is use) email 
addresses. An invalid address can cause a Spam flag to recipients further down 
the list.

2. Have easy 'Opt In' (subscribe) & Opt Out (unsubscribe) and a message 
confirming.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 14 Jun 2016, at 10:12 PM, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks very much Ronni
> 
> 
>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 8:19 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by 
>> the receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.
>> 
>> Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
>> albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au
>> Some requirements: 
>> 
>> 1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
>> “Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name 
>> and email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business who 
>> initiated the message.
>> 
>> 2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately 
>> reflect the content of the message.
>> 
>> 3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your 
>> valid physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a 
>> post office box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>> 
>>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating 
>>> with large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
>>> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
>>> It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
>>> track. 
>>> Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails 
>>> be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group?  
>>> Thank you
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> __
>>> 
>>> ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>>>   PO Box 5146
>>>   Albany, WA, 6332
>>>   Secretary, Severin Crisp
>>>   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>>>   Ph (08) 9842 1950
>>>email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
>>> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Re: Spam designation

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks very much Ronni


> On 14 Jun 2016, at 8:19 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by 
> the receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.
> 
> Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
> albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au <mailto:albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au>
> Some requirements: 
> 
> 1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
> “Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name 
> and email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business who 
> initiated the message.
> 
> 2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately 
> reflect the content of the message.
> 
> 3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your valid 
> physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a post 
> office box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating with 
>> large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
>> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
>> It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
>> track. 
>> Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails 
>> be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group?  
>> Thank you
>> Severin Crisp
>> __
>> 
>> ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>>   PO Box 5146
>>   Albany, WA, 6332
>>   Secretary, Severin Crisp
>>   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>>   Ph (08) 9842 1950
>>email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>
>> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au 
>> <http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au/>
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Re: Spam designation

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Severin,

The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by the 
receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.

Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au <mailto:albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au>
Some requirements: 

1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
“Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name and 
email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business who 
initiated the message.

2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately reflect 
the content of the message.

3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your valid 
physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a post office 
box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.

Cheers,
Ronni

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1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
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> On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating with 
> large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
> It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
> track. 
> Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails 
> be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group?  
> Thank you
> Severin Crisp
> __
> 
> ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>   PO Box 5146
>   Albany, WA, 6332
>   Secretary, Severin Crisp
>   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>   Ph (08) 9842 1950
>email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Spam designation

[Severin Crisp]

The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating with 
large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
track. 
Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails be 
sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group?  
Thank you
Severin Crisp
__
 
 ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
   PO Box 5146
   Albany, WA, 6332
   Secretary, Severin Crisp
   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
   Ph (08) 9842 1950
email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
 http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Re: Gmail putting wanted daily item in Spam

[David Noel]

"Creating a filter so the messages are never sent to Spam."
Cheers,
Ronni"

Wonderful, Ronni, you are a gem. As mentioned, I tried all the options
you suggest, except the last -- I had never noticed the tiny grey
triangle at the end of the search box, or realized that you could set
up your own special filters.  Now my Science Daily messages no longer
go to spam.

Cheers, David


On 11 November 2015 at 16:45, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> "If you find a message wrongly classified as spam, you can unmark the
> message. Just select the message, and click the Not Spam button that appears
> at the top and bottom of your current view.
>
> Unmarking a message will automatically move it to your inbox.
>
> If you find that some senders' messages are consistently being mislabeled as
> spam, you can prevent this by:
>
> Adding their email addresses to your Contacts list. Gmail will deliver
> messages from members of your Contacts list to your inbox, unless we know
> with high confidence that they are spam.
>
> Some messages sent from contacts which are very clearly spam can be sent
> directly to your Spam label. More importantly, in some cases messages from
> contacts will not be sent to Spam but will be marked with a red warning
> banner if the content is suspicious - for example, your friend's or
> contact's account has been compromised and used to send phishing messages.
>
> Creating a filter so the messages are never sent to Spam."
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>
>
> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Noel <lis...@aoi.com.au> wrote:
>
> Has anyone any suggestions on getting Gmail not to put a regular item
> in Spam? On most days I receive an update on science news items from
> Science Daily, and Gmail insists on putting it into Spam (their spam
> detector is pretty good, this particular item is the only one giving
> trouble).
>
> The item comes from:
> All Top News -- ScienceDaily<noreply+feedpr...@google.com>
> reply-to:All Top News -- ScienceDaily <newslett...@sciencedaily.com>
>
> I have tried putting all combinations of the above into my address
> book, but with no effect. Each day I open my Spam list, mark the
> Science Daily item "Not Spam", and clear the rest. Every couple of
> weeks, when I have marked the item "Not Spam", a message comes up from
> the Gmail Spam Team asking if they should take account of this. I
> always reply "Yes", and it makes no difference.
>
> I don't suppose there is anywhere I can contact the Gmail Spam Team
> directly to get a specific item like this not spammed out?
>
> Cheers, David Noel
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Re: Gmail putting wanted daily item in Spam

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Stephen ,

Well if your ISP stops being your best service option and you want to change
providers, then that email ceases to exist.

Then trying to inform everyone of your new email address isn¹t too bad, but
remembering everything you have signed up to online, where that email
address is often your user name, or where you get password reminders sent,
and then going there to log-on and change email is a real pain ­ and
sometimes is not even possible ­ a new email address can mean re-registering
or re-subscribing.

That¹s why I prefer to have my own domain ­ but for others Gmail, Yahoo, etc
is a solution - as long as they stay in business  ;o)



Cheers




Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 11/11/15 12:55, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

> What about using the email address supplied by your provider.
> Then you can use Apple Mail (or an equivalent).
> Then you can tell Mail it is not junk.
> 
> I don¹t understand why anyone uses external email (Gmail, Yahoo, etc) unless
> they are travelling a lot and therefore require that facility ?
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Noel <lis...@aoi.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone any suggestions on getting Gmail not to put a regular item
>> in Spam? On most days I receive an update on science news items from
>> Science Daily, and Gmail insists on putting it into Spam (their spam
>> detector is pretty good, this particular item is the only one giving
>> trouble).
>> 
>> The item comes from:
>> All Top News -- ScienceDaily<noreply+feedpr...@google.com>
>> reply-to:All Top News -- ScienceDaily <newslett...@sciencedaily.com>
>> 
>> I have tried putting all combinations of the above into my address
>> book, but with no effect. Each day I open my Spam list, mark the
>> Science Daily item "Not Spam", and clear the rest. Every couple of
>> weeks, when I have marked the item "Not Spam", a message comes up from
>> the Gmail Spam Team asking if they should take account of this. I
>> always reply "Yes", and it makes no difference.
>> 
>> I don't suppose there is anywhere I can contact the Gmail Spam Team
>> directly to get a specific item like this not spammed out?
>> 
>> Cheers, David Noel
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> Regards,
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Re: Gmail putting wanted daily item in Spam

[Ronda Brown]

Hi David,

"If you find a message wrongly classified as spam, you can unmark the message. 
Just select the message, and click the Not Spam button that appears at the top 
and bottom of your current view. 

Unmarking a message will automatically move it to your inbox.

If you find that some senders' messages are consistently being mislabeled as 
spam, you can prevent this by:

Adding their email addresses to your Contacts list. Gmail will deliver messages 
from members of your Contacts list to your inbox, unless we know with high 
confidence that they are spam.
Some messages sent from contacts which are very clearly spam can be sent 
directly to your Spam label. More importantly, in some cases messages from 
contacts will not be sent to Spam but will be marked with a red warning banner 
if the content is suspicious - for example, your friend's or contact's account 
has been compromised and used to send phishing messages.
Creating a filter so the messages are never sent to Spam."

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Noel <lis...@aoi.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone any suggestions on getting Gmail not to put a regular item
> in Spam? On most days I receive an update on science news items from
> Science Daily, and Gmail insists on putting it into Spam (their spam
> detector is pretty good, this particular item is the only one giving
> trouble).
> 
> The item comes from:
> All Top News -- ScienceDaily<noreply+feedpr...@google.com>
> reply-to:All Top News -- ScienceDaily <newslett...@sciencedaily.com>
> 
> I have tried putting all combinations of the above into my address
> book, but with no effect. Each day I open my Spam list, mark the
> Science Daily item "Not Spam", and clear the rest. Every couple of
> weeks, when I have marked the item "Not Spam", a message comes up from
> the Gmail Spam Team asking if they should take account of this. I
> always reply "Yes", and it makes no difference.
> 
> I don't suppose there is anywhere I can contact the Gmail Spam Team
> directly to get a specific item like this not spammed out?
> 
> Cheers, David Noel
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Re: Gmail putting wanted daily item in Spam

[Stephen Chape]

Very true Neil.
I reckon it would be quite a headache changing providers for that reason !


> On 11 Nov 2015, at 5:38 PM, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen ,
> 
> Well if your ISP stops being your best service option and you want to change 
> providers, then that email ceases to exist.
> 
> Then trying to inform everyone of your new email address isn’t too bad, but 
> remembering everything you have signed up to online, where that email address 
> is often your user name, or where you get password reminders sent, and then 
> going there to log-on and change email is a real pain – and sometimes is not 
> even possible – a new email address can mean re-registering or re-subscribing.
> 
> That’s why I prefer to have my own domain – but for others Gmail, Yahoo, etc 
> is a solution - as long as they stay in business  ;o)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> on 11/11/15 12:55, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
> 
>> What about using the email address supplied by your provider.
>> Then you can use Apple Mail (or an equivalent).
>> Then you can tell Mail it is not junk.
>> 
>> I don’t understand why anyone uses external email (Gmail, Yahoo, etc) unless 
>> they are travelling a lot and therefore require that facility ?
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Noel <lis...@aoi.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone any suggestions on getting Gmail not to put a regular item
>>> in Spam? On most days I receive an update on science news items from
>>> Science Daily, and Gmail insists on putting it into Spam (their spam
>>> detector is pretty good, this particular item is the only one giving
>>> trouble).
>>> 
>>> The item comes from:
>>> All Top News -- ScienceDaily<noreply+feedpr...@google.com>
>>> reply-to:All Top News -- ScienceDaily <newslett...@sciencedaily.com>
>>> 
>>> I have tried putting all combinations of the above into my address
>>> book, but with no effect. Each day I open my Spam list, mark the
>>> Science Daily item "Not Spam", and clear the rest. Every couple of
>>> weeks, when I have marked the item "Not Spam", a message comes up from
>>> the Gmail Spam Team asking if they should take account of this. I
>>> always reply "Yes", and it makes no difference.
>>> 
>>> I don't suppose there is anywhere I can contact the Gmail Spam Team
>>> directly to get a specific item like this not spammed out?
>>> 
>>> Cheers, David Noel
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>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
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Gmail putting wanted daily item in Spam

[David Noel]

Has anyone any suggestions on getting Gmail not to put a regular item
in Spam? On most days I receive an update on science news items from
Science Daily, and Gmail insists on putting it into Spam (their spam
detector is pretty good, this particular item is the only one giving
trouble).

The item comes from:
All Top News -- ScienceDaily<noreply+feedpr...@google.com>
reply-to:All Top News -- ScienceDaily <newslett...@sciencedaily.com>

I have tried putting all combinations of the above into my address
book, but with no effect. Each day I open my Spam list, mark the
Science Daily item "Not Spam", and clear the rest. Every couple of
weeks, when I have marked the item "Not Spam", a message comes up from
the Gmail Spam Team asking if they should take account of this. I
always reply "Yes", and it makes no difference.

I don't suppose there is anywhere I can contact the Gmail Spam Team
directly to get a specific item like this not spammed out?

Cheers, David Noel
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Re: Gmail putting wanted daily item in Spam

[David Noel]

Hi Stephen, thanks for the suggestion. Gmail does a good job for me,
just this one annoyance.

I can understand how others prefer to store their emails on their own
computer(s), but for me, the advantages of storing everything in the
Cloud, permanently available at any time anywhere in the world, and
not having to worry at all about backups, work very well. For example,
I have scans of my passport stored as attachments -- if I was
unfortunate enough to have my passport stolen in Azerbaijan, I could
quickly print out a copy as ID.

David Noel


On 11 November 2015 at 12:55, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> What about using the email address supplied by your provider.
> Then you can use Apple Mail (or an equivalent).
> Then you can tell Mail it is not junk.
>
> I don’t understand why anyone uses external email (Gmail, Yahoo, etc) unless
> they are travelling a lot and therefore require that facility ?
>
> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Noel <lis...@aoi.com.au> wrote:
>
> Has anyone any suggestions on getting Gmail not to put a regular item
> in Spam? On most days I receive an update on science news items from
> Science Daily, and Gmail insists on putting it into Spam (their spam
> detector is pretty good, this particular item is the only one giving
> trouble).
>
> The item comes from:
> All Top News -- ScienceDaily<noreply+feedpr...@google.com>
> reply-to:All Top News -- ScienceDaily <newslett...@sciencedaily.com>
>
> I have tried putting all combinations of the above into my address
> book, but with no effect. Each day I open my Spam list, mark the
> Science Daily item "Not Spam", and clear the rest. Every couple of
> weeks, when I have marked the item "Not Spam", a message comes up from
> the Gmail Spam Team asking if they should take account of this. I
> always reply "Yes", and it makes no difference.
>
> I don't suppose there is anywhere I can contact the Gmail Spam Team
> directly to get a specific item like this not spammed out?
>
> Cheers, David Noel
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>
> Regards,
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Gmail putting wanted daily item in Spam

[Stephen Chape]

What about using the email address supplied by your provider.
Then you can use Apple Mail (or an equivalent).
Then you can tell Mail it is not junk.

I don’t understand why anyone uses external email (Gmail, Yahoo, etc) unless 
they are travelling a lot and therefore require that facility ?

> On 11 Nov 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Noel <lis...@aoi.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone any suggestions on getting Gmail not to put a regular item
> in Spam? On most days I receive an update on science news items from
> Science Daily, and Gmail insists on putting it into Spam (their spam
> detector is pretty good, this particular item is the only one giving
> trouble).
> 
> The item comes from:
> All Top News -- ScienceDaily<noreply+feedpr...@google.com>
> reply-to:All Top News -- ScienceDaily <newslett...@sciencedaily.com>
> 
> I have tried putting all combinations of the above into my address
> book, but with no effect. Each day I open my Spam list, mark the
> Science Daily item "Not Spam", and clear the rest. Every couple of
> weeks, when I have marked the item "Not Spam", a message comes up from
> the Gmail Spam Team asking if they should take account of this. I
> always reply "Yes", and it makes no difference.
> 
> I don't suppose there is anywhere I can contact the Gmail Spam Team
> directly to get a specific item like this not spammed out?
> 
> Cheers, David Noel
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Re: Links in emails retrieved from Spam no longer clickable?

[David Noel]

-- That's a good thought, Ronni, but clicking Not Spam puts a
message in the Inbox, but the links remain inactive.

-- I've tried classing a routine message (with links) as Spam, then
reclassifying as Not Spam, and the links are preserved.

-- Maybe we can get more clues from WAMUG members who also have
messages which Gmail has mistakenly marked as Spam?

David

===

On 29 April 2015 at 12:42, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Hello David,

 I don't use Gmail, but I would think you would have to click Not Spam for
 the link to become live after being previously marked a Spam.
 Can you select the message and click Not Spam at the top of the message?

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 29 Apr 2015, at 11:19 am, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:

 I use Gmail, which has very active Spam Filters, removing more and
 more emails to Spam. OK, I understand how to (try to) re-set the spam
 filters so it doesn't filter off types of message I actually want.

 So I go through the Spam periodically to retrieve stuff which isn't
 spam for me. The problem is, when such messages are retrieved into the
 Inbox, links they contain are apparently no longer clickable. Among
 the cases here, I use a Wordpress site for comment review, and when
 Wordpress sends me a message for review, I can no longer Approve or
 Discard it, because the links don't work.

 Has anyone worked out a solution to such problems? TIA.

 David Noel
 2010 Apr 29
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Links in emails retrieved from Spam no longer clickable?

[David Noel]

I use Gmail, which has very active Spam Filters, removing more and
more emails to Spam. OK, I understand how to (try to) re-set the spam
filters so it doesn't filter off types of message I actually want.

So I go through the Spam periodically to retrieve stuff which isn't
spam for me. The problem is, when such messages are retrieved into the
Inbox, links they contain are apparently no longer clickable. Among
the cases here, I use a Wordpress site for comment review, and when
Wordpress sends me a message for review, I can no longer Approve or
Discard it, because the links don't work.

Has anyone worked out a solution to such problems? TIA.

David Noel
2010 Apr 29
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Re: Links in emails retrieved from Spam no longer clickable?

[Ronda Brown]

Hello David,

I don't use Gmail, but I would think you would have to click Not Spam for the 
link to become live after being previously marked a Spam.
Can you select the message and click Not Spam at the top of the message?

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 29 Apr 2015, at 11:19 am, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:
 
 I use Gmail, which has very active Spam Filters, removing more and
 more emails to Spam. OK, I understand how to (try to) re-set the spam
 filters so it doesn't filter off types of message I actually want.
 
 So I go through the Spam periodically to retrieve stuff which isn't
 spam for me. The problem is, when such messages are retrieved into the
 Inbox, links they contain are apparently no longer clickable. Among
 the cases here, I use a Wordpress site for comment review, and when
 Wordpress sends me a message for review, I can no longer Approve or
 Discard it, because the links don't work.
 
 Has anyone worked out a solution to such problems? TIA.
 
 David Noel
 2010 Apr 29
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Re: Spam bombing

[Marcus F Harris]

Thanks Ronni.
Your comments re CC vs BCC are spot on. Also I wasn't suggesting Jennifer was 
doing this, I was simply wondering if it was the case.
Best to all
Marcus

Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 21 Mar 2015, at 7:40 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hello Jennifer,
 
 I was not inferring that you had sent any group CC email messages. 
 My reply was in answer to Marcus's query - 
 Re: receiving group messages that show all recipients addresses CC instead of 
 BCC recipients addresses hidden.
 
 That is why I deleted all your text below Marcus's message. 
 
 In answer to your query:
 iCloud has very good SPAM/junk mail filters in place on their server which 
 stops SPAM before it gets to your Inbox.
  
 You can use the Mail app to mark messages as junk so that later messages from 
 the same sender are automatically marked as junk:
 In iOS 7 or later, open the message, tap the flag icon at the bottom (top iOS 
 8.2), then tap Move to Junk.
 In OS X, select the message and click the Junk (thumbs down) icon in the Mail 
 toolbar.
 At iCloud.com, select the message, then click the flag icon and choose Move 
 to Junk. Or just drag the message to the Junk folder in the sidebar. The 
 message is then automatically reported to iCloud as junk mail.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
 
 
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 4:12 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to 
 junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way 
 of separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those 
 accounts for now,and put up with the nuisance.
 
 Regards, 
 Jennifer
  
 
 On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Marcus and others,
 
 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that need to 
 know who is being sent this email - example work project that all the 
 recipients are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps 
 ok to CC
 
 Otherwise you should use the BCC field.
 Two main reasons why you should use BCC
 
 Privacy: we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our friends, work 
 colleagues or family members in public places, so why would we do it with 
 their email addresses? These are also personal information and it's a 
 matter of respect for their privacy to keep this information to ourselves, 
 instead of spreading it around the internet, making it accessible to 
 strangers (who may eventually spread it to even more strangers).
 Spam  Viruses: we don't know which hands the email addresses will end up 
 in if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of 
 spammers, for instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands 
 of email addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is 
 that the recipients of the original message will start getting more and 
 more spam, wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the 
 middle of all the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our 
 recipients is infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses 
 available in the message and send a copy of itself to each one address in 
 an attempt to spread itself to other computers, or may simply collect the 
 addresses to aggregate them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that 
 spammers love to buy.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail 
 to many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
 Cheers
 Marcus
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5
 
 
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Re: Spam bombing

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Dear Ronni and Marcus,
I really wasn't suspecting an accusation!  Just clarifying that this was
not a possible trigger.  Because of the way our accounts are set up we have
chosen not to use iCloud (probably an indication of our lack of knowhow).
For the present, I think I will close mail on my phone and iPad and then
when I see from my junk mail on the desk top that the spam has subsided, I
can start them up again.
There must be a lot of very strange and sad people in this cyber world! :-)

Thank you all for your suggestions and information.

Regards,
Jennifer

On 21 March 2015 at 16:28, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:

 Thanks Ronni.
 Your comments re CC vs BCC are spot on. Also I wasn't suggesting Jennifer
 was doing this, I was simply wondering if it was the case.
 Best to all
 Marcus

 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 21 Mar 2015, at 7:40 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Jennifer,

 I was not inferring that you had sent any group CC email messages.
 My reply was in answer to Marcus's query -
 Re: receiving group messages that show all recipients addresses CC instead
 of BCC recipients addresses hidden.

 That is why I deleted all your text below Marcus's message.

 In answer to your query:
 iCloud has very good SPAM/junk mail filters in place on their server which
 stops SPAM before it gets to your Inbox.

 You can use the Mail app to mark messages as junk so that later messages
 from the same sender are automatically marked as junk:

- In iOS 7 or later, open the message, tap the flag icon at the bottom
(top iOS 8.2), then tap *Move to Junk*.
- In OS X, select the message and click the *Junk *(thumbs down) icon
in the Mail toolbar.
- At iCloud.com https://www.icloud.com/, select the message, then
click the flag icon and choose *Move to Junk*. Or just drag the
message to the Junk folder in the sidebar. The message is then
automatically reported to iCloud as junk mail.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 4:12 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to
 junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way
 of separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those
 accounts for now,and put up with the nuisance.

 Regards,
 Jennifer


 On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Marcus and others,

 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that *need to
 know *who is being sent this email - example work project that all the
 recipients are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps
 ok to CC

 Otherwise you *should use the BCC field.*

 Two main reasons why you should use BCC

- *Privacy:* we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our
friends, work colleagues or family members in public places, so why would
we do it with their email addresses? These are also personal information
and it's a matter of respect for their privacy to keep this information to
ourselves, instead of spreading it around the internet, making it
accessible to strangers (who may eventually spread it to even more
strangers).
- *Spam  Viruses:* we don't know which hands the email addresses
will end up in if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the
hands of spammers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic),
for instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands of email
addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is that the
recipients of the original message will start getting more and more spam,
wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the middle of
all the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our recipients
is infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses available in 
 the
message and send a copy of itself to each one address in an attempt to
spread itself to other computers, or may simply collect the addresses to
aggregate them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that spammers love 
 to
buy.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:

 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail
 to many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case.
 Cheers
 Marcus

 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5



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Re: Spam bombing

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Marcus and others,

Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that need to know 
who is being sent this email - example work project that all the recipients are 
all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps ok to CC

Otherwise you should use the BCC field.
Two main reasons why you should use BCC

Privacy: we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our friends, work 
colleagues or family members in public places, so why would we do it with their 
email addresses? These are also personal information and it's a matter of 
respect for their privacy to keep this information to ourselves, instead of 
spreading it around the internet, making it accessible to strangers (who may 
eventually spread it to even more strangers).
Spam  Viruses: we don't know which hands the email addresses will end up in if 
we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of spammers, for 
instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands of email 
addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is that the 
recipients of the original message will start getting more and more spam, 
wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the middle of all 
the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our recipients is 
infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses available in the 
message and send a copy of itself to each one address in an attempt to spread 
itself to other computers, or may simply collect the addresses to aggregate 
them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that spammers love to buy.
Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail to 
 many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
 Cheers
 Marcus
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5
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Re: Spam bombing

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Hello Everyone,

I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to
junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way
of separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those
accounts for now,and put up with the nuisance.

Regards,
Jennifer


On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Marcus and others,

 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that *need to
 know *who is being sent this email - example work project that all the
 recipients are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps
 ok to CC

 Otherwise you *should use the BCC field.*

 Two main reasons why you should use BCC

- *Privacy:* we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our
friends, work colleagues or family members in public places, so why would
we do it with their email addresses? These are also personal information
and it's a matter of respect for their privacy to keep this information to
ourselves, instead of spreading it around the internet, making it
accessible to strangers (who may eventually spread it to even more
strangers).
- *Spam  Viruses:* we don't know which hands the email addresses will
end up in if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of
spammers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic), for
instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands of email
addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is that the
recipients of the original message will start getting more and more spam,
wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the middle of
all the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our recipients
is infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses available in the
message and send a copy of itself to each one address in an attempt to
spread itself to other computers, or may simply collect the addresses to
aggregate them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that spammers love to
buy.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:

 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail
 to many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case.
 Cheers
 Marcus

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Re: Spam bombing

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Jennifer,

I was not inferring that you had sent any group CC email messages. 
My reply was in answer to Marcus's query - 
Re: receiving group messages that show all recipients addresses CC instead of 
BCC recipients addresses hidden.

That is why I deleted all your text below Marcus's message. 

In answer to your query:
iCloud has very good SPAM/junk mail filters in place on their server which 
stops SPAM before it gets to your Inbox.
 
You can use the Mail app to mark messages as junk so that later messages from 
the same sender are automatically marked as junk:
In iOS 7 or later, open the message, tap the flag icon at the bottom (top iOS 
8.2), then tap Move to Junk.
In OS X, select the message and click the Junk (thumbs down) icon in the Mail 
toolbar.
At iCloud.com https://www.icloud.com/, select the message, then click the 
flag icon and choose Move to Junk. Or just drag the message to the Junk folder 
in the sidebar. The message is then automatically reported to iCloud as junk 
mail.
Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X Yosemite 10.10.2


On 20 Mar 2015, at 4:12 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
mailto:lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to 
 junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way of 
 separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those accounts 
 for now,and put up with the nuisance.
 
 Regards, 
 Jennifer
  
 
 On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com mailto:ro...@mac.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Marcus and others,
 
 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that need to know 
 who is being sent this email - example work project that all the recipients 
 are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps ok to CC
 
 Otherwise you should use the BCC field.
 Two main reasons why you should use BCC
 
 Privacy: we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our friends, work 
 colleagues or family members in public places, so why would we do it with 
 their email addresses? These are also personal information and it's a matter 
 of respect for their privacy to keep this information to ourselves, instead 
 of spreading it around the internet, making it accessible to strangers (who 
 may eventually spread it to even more strangers).
 Spam  Viruses: we don't know which hands the email addresses will end up in 
 if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of spammers 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic), for instance, or added to 
 lists containing hundreds of thousands of email addresses, which are then 
 sold on the black market. The result is that the recipients of the original 
 message will start getting more and more spam, wasting their time and maybe 
 even some important emails in the middle of all the junk-mail. Additionally, 
 if the computer of one of our recipients is infected with a virus, it can 
 collect all the addresses available in the message and send a copy of itself 
 to each one address in an attempt to spread itself to other computers, or may 
 simply collect the addresses to aggregate them in one of the lists I 
 mentioned above, that spammers love to buy.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com 
 mailto:cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail to 
 many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
 Cheers
 Marcus
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5


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Re: Spam bombing

[Marcus F Harris]

My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail to 
many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
Cheers
Marcus

Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:02 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 We are being bombed this week with what might be described as pornographic 
 spam on macmail: 20 or so when I opened mail this morning and several since.  
  For a few weeks previously we were getting a few offers every day to improve 
 our non existant website.
 
 I assume we can only wait for them to die down, but I wonder if it is 
 happening on this scale to others. 
 
 Regards,
 Jennifer
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Spam bombing

[Jennifer Lefroy]

We are being bombed this week with what might be described as pornographic
spam on macmail: 20 or so when I opened mail this morning and several
since.   For a few weeks previously we were getting a few offers every day
to improve our non existant website.

I assume we can only wait for them to die down, but I wonder if it is
happening on this scale to others.

Regards,
Jennifer
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Re: Spam bombing

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

 On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:02 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 We are being bombed this week with what might be described as pornographic 
 spam on macmail: 20 or so when I opened mail this morning and several since.  
  For a few weeks previously we were getting a few offers every day to improve 
 our non existant website.
 
 I assume we can only wait for them to die down, but I wonder if it is 
 happening on this scale to others. 
 
 Regards,
 Jennifer
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Nothing on my Computer Jennifer.

Tony

BODDINGTON
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Re: Spam.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hello out there

Here's another one, I have forwarded both e-mails to the Report SPAM site.

Cheers everyone.

Tony Francis

BODDINGTON/

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@mac.com
 Subject: Fwd: Can I Trust You..?
 Date: 25 May 2014 3:07:37 PM AWST
 To: rep...@submit.spamacma.gov.au
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Pete Dawkins (MG) m...@talktalk.net
 Subject: Re: Can I Trust You..?
 Date: 7 May 2014 7:11:45 PM AWST
 To: Undisclosed recipients: ;
 
 
 
 I am a US Army currently serving in the mission in Afghanistan. There is 
 something i need to discuss with you . Can i trust you?. Kindly reply to me 
 on mjrgen.petedawk...@usa.com , for details. Thanks
 Pete Dawkins (MG).
 
 
 

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Re: What is the purpose/method of this spam?

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 12 Jan 2014, at 12:22 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Like everyone, I suspect, I get some spam that slips through the junk mail 
 filtering. Generally they are soliciting some response or trying to get you 
 to click some link – so it is easy to imagine some nefarious purpose or other 
 being behind the spam generation.
 
 Then there are the others, like the one below which came through to one of my 
 secondary email addresses, which are harder to understand. Inspection of the 
 source shows nothing untoward – it even seems to have passed some spam tests.
 
 It appears to have been constructed to try and evade junk/spam filters in 
 that it contains grammatically correct sentences without spelling mistakes – 
 although the content is meaningless - unless you are a REALLY alternative 
 poet ;o)
 
 So what IS the purpose of crafting and sending these types of message ??
 
 
 I don’t really have any great worry/concern about this – I’m just curious ;o)
 
 Any thoughts?
 

I have been getting these for a number of years. If you want my thoughts - you 
have already spent far too much of your valuable time on this one. Simply 
delete and move on. I have absolutely no idea what mileage is gained from this 
type of SPAM, but that's about as much thought as I'm prepared to spend on 'em.

Delete and move on. 

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: What is the purpose/method of this spam?

[Neil Houghton]

Hehe,

You¹re probably right Peter ­ and, yes, I have been getting them
intermittently for many years.


It was just that I recently got a few more...   and I just started
wondering...-  I was probably one of those kids that always asked WHY??
;o)



Cheers




Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




on 13/1/14 7:45, Peter Hinchliffe at hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:

 
 On 12 Jan 2014, at 12:22 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:
 
 What is the purpose/method of this spam?
 Hi all,
 
 Like everyone, I suspect, I get some spam that slips through the junk mail
 filtering. Generally they are soliciting some response or trying to get you
 to click some link ­ so it is easy to imagine some nefarious purpose or other
 being behind the spam generation.
 
 Then there are the others, like the one below which came through to one of my
 secondary email addresses, which are harder to understand. Inspection of the
 source shows nothing untoward ­ it even seems to have passed some spam tests.
 
 It appears to have been constructed to try and evade junk/spam filters in
 that it contains grammatically correct sentences without spelling mistakes ­
 although the content is meaningless - unless you are a REALLY alternative
 poet ;o)
 
 So what IS the purpose of crafting and sending these types of message ??
 
 
 I don¹t really have any great worry/concern about this ­ I¹m just curious ;o)
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 
 I have been getting these for a number of years. If you want my thoughts - you
 have already spent far too much of your valuable time on this one. Simply
 delete and move on. I have absolutely no idea what mileage is gained from this
 type of SPAM, but that's about as much thought as I'm prepared to spend on
 'em.
 
 Delete and move on.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 
 
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What is the purpose/method of this spam?

[Neil Houghton]

Hi all,

Like everyone, I suspect, I get some spam that slips through the junk mail
filtering. Generally they are soliciting some response or trying to get you
to click some link ­ so it is easy to imagine some nefarious purpose or
other being behind the spam generation.

Then there are the others, like the one below which came through to one of
my secondary email addresses, which are harder to understand. Inspection of
the source shows nothing untoward ­ it even seems to have passed some spam
tests.

It appears to have been constructed to try and evade junk/spam filters in
that it contains grammatically correct sentences without spelling mistakes ­
although the content is meaningless - unless you are a REALLY alternative
poet ;o)

So what IS the purpose of crafting and sending these types of message ??


I don¹t really have any great worry/concern about this ­ I¹m just curious
;o)

Any thoughts?



Cheers
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


 -- Forwarded Message
 From: Fine Art and Drama, with distinction. m...@sky.com
 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 21:20:45 +0100
 To: m...@possumology.com
 Subject: Henrietta then returns to the salon and discovers Leopold going
 through the handbag.
 

 Then a roll is called and duties are assigned according to the situation
 requiring the GQ alarm.
 All officers are elected by the students they serve.
 She later alerted Abel and Asthe when Ion and Esther were in danger, and saved
 Esther from one of Dietrich's puppets. He has also written for his electric
 guitar orchestra, Sleaze Art.
 


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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

Thanks for this Geoff

I've been having a bit of a play around with your whois info and discovered 
that 33478 Domain(s) Use creativedreams...@gmail.com As Whois Email. See 
http://www.webboar.com/whois-email/page:1/creativedreams365%40gmail.com;. 
That's quite a lot. Here's the streetview of the address  20 WEST 87TH STREET 
NY: http://goo.gl/maps/3EKoK. Quite a business!

Reg


On 09/10/2013, at 12:46 pm, Geoff and Kaye k...@kgweb.org.au wrote:

 Reg
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had 
 any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have 
 sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 A whois on the domain name png.com returns:
 
 ---
 Domain name: png.com
 
 Administrative Contact:
   -
   DHARSHINEE NAIDU (creativedreams...@gmail.com)
   +1.9173101384
   Fax: -
   20 WEST 87TH STREET
   NEW YORK, NY 10024
   US
 -
 
 You would think that Mr Naidu is unlikely to be in the palm oil business in 
 Papua New Guinea.
 
 Regards
 
 Geoff
 --
 Geoff and Kaye
 k...@kgweb.org.au
 
 
 
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Julie Bedford]

Reg
I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
uneasy going to the paypal link,
so will try on my existing links to cancel

Thanks for posting

Jewels

On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
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 for rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
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 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
 refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
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 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and click 
 My Settings.
 
 
 
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 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Ronda Brown]

Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 9 Oct 2013, at 5:47 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Reg
 I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
 uneasy going to the paypal link,
 so will try on my existing links to cancel
 
 Thanks for posting
 
 Jewels
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
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 X-Uidl: 91694
 
  
 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
 refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
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 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had 
 any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have 
 sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Rick Armstrong]

I agree, report it to PayPal but as it already has been, so delete the email 
then separately go to PayPal and just check your balance, you will find no 
unauthorised transactions have been made so you don't have to do anything. I 
have had three very different emails over the last year like this. Rick.

On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 9 Oct 2013, at 5:47 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Reg
 I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
 uneasy going to the paypal link,
 so will try on my existing links to cancel
 
 Thanks for posting
 
 Jewels
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
 Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unverified 
 [150.101.137.143])  by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 5.3i) with ESMTP id 
 175089352-1927428  for rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 
 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
 Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.225]) by 
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 ip=203.59.1.225
 Status: U
 X-Uidl: 91694
 
  
 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get 
 full refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
 To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and 
 click My Settings.
 
 
 
 Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had 
 any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have 
 sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you

Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

I'm a bit more cautious as such things are worrisome. I've changed my PayPal 
email address and password, even though there has been no activity in my 
account for over a month.

Reg

On 09/10/2013, at 6:08 pm, Rick Armstrong a...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I agree, report it to PayPal but as it already has been, so delete the email 
 then separately go to PayPal and just check your balance, you will find no 
 unauthorised transactions have been made so you don't have to do anything. I 
 have had three very different emails over the last year like this. Rick.
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 9 Oct 2013, at 5:47 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Reg
 I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
 uneasy going to the paypal link,
 so will try on my existing links to cancel
 
 Thanks for posting
 
 Jewels
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
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 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get 
 full refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
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 corner of any PayPal page.
 
 To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and 
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 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from

Spam? Fisching?

[Robert Miller-Eves]

Just received an email,supposedly from Adobe , Important Password Reset 
Information
Important Password Reset Information
To view this message in a language other than English, please click here. 

We recently discovered that an attacker illegally entered our network and may 
have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently have 
no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. 

To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. 
Please visitwww.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new password. We 
recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the 
same user ID or password. In addition, please be on the lookout for suspicious 
email or phone scams seeking your personal information. 

We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of 
our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events 
from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by 
visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find here.
Adobe Customer Care

I have NOT responded as I'm suspicious!

Robert Miller-Eves
bobme...@highway1.com.au



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Re: Spam? Fisching?

[Daniel Kerr]

That email is actually correct. As Adobe's servers got hacked. 
As a precaution, they are emailing people advising them to change their 
password, just incase.

You can read more about it direct from Adobe's site here -
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/customer-alert.html

or here
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/03/adobe-hacked-2-9-million-customer-accounts-compromised/

So yes, it may pay to change your password for your Adobe account, just 
incase.

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Daniel
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be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be 
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On 10/10/2013, at 4:27 AM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Just received an email,supposedly from Adobe , Important Password Reset 
 Information
 Important Password Reset Information
 To view this message in a language other than English, please click here. 
 
 We recently discovered that an attacker illegally entered our network and may 
 have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently 
 have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. 
 
 To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. 
 Please visitwww.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new password. We 
 recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the 
 same user ID or password. In addition, please be on the lookout for 
 suspicious email or phone scams seeking your personal information. 
 
 We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of 
 our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events 
 from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by 
 visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find here.
 Adobe Customer Care
 
 I have NOT responded as I'm suspicious!
 
 Robert Miller-Eves
 bobme...@highway1.com.au
 
 
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 

I agree with Ronni. the golden rule is NEVER click on links in emails of this 
sort. If in doubt, always go to the site in question, be it PayPal, iTunes, 
your bank or anyone else, and login to your account, assuming you actually have 
one, and check things out for yourself. And, of course, delete the email.

It also pays to have a close look at the sending and recipient email addresses 
at the top of the message. You'll find that the sending address often resolves 
to somewhere in Russia or Romania or similar, and of course if the recipient 
address is Undisclosed recipients or similar you can be absolutely certain 
the message is not intended for you at all.

Above all, if you know for a fact that you have no dealings at all with the 
organisation in question, you need spend no further time over it. Just delete 
and move on.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Ronni,
I didn't click on any of the email links, I just independently went to Paypal, 
advised them and then deleted the email from the In and Trash.
Thanks for your concern.

Cheers
jewels

On 10/10/2013, at 7:57 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 
 I agree with Ronni. the golden rule is NEVER click on links in emails of this 
 sort. If in doubt, always go to the site in question, be it PayPal, iTunes, 
 your bank or anyone else, and login to your account, assuming you actually 
 have one, and check things out for yourself. And, of course, delete the email.
 
 It also pays to have a close look at the sending and recipient email 
 addresses at the top of the message. You'll find that the sending address 
 often resolves to somewhere in Russia or Romania or similar, and of course if 
 the recipient address is Undisclosed recipients or similar you can be 
 absolutely certain the message is not intended for you at all.
 
 Above all, if you know for a fact that you have no dealings at all with the 
 organisation in question, you need spend no further time over it. Just delete 
 and move on.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
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Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

Hi WAMUGgers

I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)

What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my account.

Here is a plain text copy of the email

Reg

_

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Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
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9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,

You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
We've asked the seller to ship.

Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your PayPal 
account.


It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent Activity 
list in your Account Overview.


Seller
administrat...@png.com
Note to seller
You haven't included a note.
Sender address
Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
Shipping details
The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.

Description
Unit price
Qty
Amount
Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
Item number 17393949551
$427.00 AUD
1
$427.00 AUD
 
Shipping and handling
$5.00 AUD
Insurance - not offered

Total
$432.00 AUD
Payment
$432.00 AUD

Payment sent to administrat...@png.com


Issues with this transaction?
If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
refund.
 Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm


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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

Oops that wasn't the plain text version. Sorry, don't click on any links!

Reg
On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
mailbox:

From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
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9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,

You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
We've asked the seller to ship.

Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your PayPal 
account.


It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent Activity 
list in your Account Overview.


Seller
administrat...@png.com
Note to seller
You haven't included a note.
Sender address
Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
Shipping details
The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.

Description
Unit price
Qty
Amount
Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
Item number 17393949551
$427.00 AUD
1
$427.00 AUD
 
Shipping and handling
$5.00 AUD
Insurance - not offered

Total
$432.00 AUD
Payment
$432.00 AUD

Payment sent to administrat...@png.com


Issues with this transaction?
If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
refund.
 Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm


 This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
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PayPal Email ID PP1120 

On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Geoff and Kaye]

Reg

On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.

A whois on the domain name png.com returns:

---
Domain name: png.com

Administrative Contact:
   -
   DHARSHINEE NAIDU (creativedreams...@gmail.com)
   +1.9173101384
   Fax: -
   20 WEST 87TH STREET
   NEW YORK, NY 10024
   US
-

You would think that Mr Naidu is unlikely to be in the palm oil business in 
Papua New Guinea.

Regards

Geoff
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Geoff and Kaye]

Reg

On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.

If the seller is not phishy enough, a whois on the domain of the return 
address provides:

-
Domain Name: ADMIN.NET
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2013-01-03 21:17:44
Creation Date: 1996-02-29 00:00:00
Registrar Expiration Date: 2018-03-02 00:00:00
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrant Name: Francois Normant
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: BP 22672
Registrant City: Dakar Ponty
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: 0
Registrant Country: Senegal
-

They produce a lot of palm oil in Senegal, but this person (with no stated 
organisation) is probably not in the business, and is even less likely to be 
associated with palm oil in PNG. More to the point, he clearly has nothing to 
do with Paypal.

Regards

Geoff
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Kevin Lock]

Reg,

I have had several of these and advised PayPal who confirmed that it is 
a Phishing scam to get your banking details.


Regs,

Kevin





On 9/10/13 2:53 PM,



Reg Whitely wrote:

Hi WAMUGgers

I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not 
had any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, 
and have sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au 
mailto:phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)


What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in 
my account.


Here is a plain text copy of the email

Reg

_

From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net 
mailto:refunds.serv...@admin.net
Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com 
mailto:administrat...@png.com

Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
To: rwhit...@internode.on.net mailto:rwhit...@internode.on.net
X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net 
http://adl6.internode.on.net (unverified [150.101.137.143])  by 
mail.internode.on.net http://mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 5.3i) 
with ESMTP id 175089352-1927428  for rwhit...@internode.on.net 
mailto:rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au 
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ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 13:44:53 +1030
Received: from unknown (HELO server-PC) ([203.59.132.147]) by 
icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au 
http://icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 
11:14:40 +0800
Return-Path: refunds.serv...@admin.net 
mailto:refunds.serv...@admin.net

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ip=203.59.1.225

Status: U
X-Uidl: 91694

9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net mailto:rwhit...@internode.on.net,

You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com 
mailto:administrat...@png.com

We've asked the seller to ship.

Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to 
your PayPal account.



It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
Activity list in your Account Overview.



Seller
administrat...@png.com mailto:administrat...@png.com
Note to seller
You haven't included a note.
Sender address
Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
Shipping details
The seller hasn't provided any shipping details yet.

Description
Unit price
Qty
Amount
Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
Item number 17393949551
$427.00 AUD
1
$427.00 AUD
Shipping and handling
$5.00 AUD
Insurance - not offered

Total
$432.00 AUD
Payment
$432.00 AUD

Payment sent to administrat...@png.com mailto:administrat...@png.com


Issues with this transaction?
If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to 
get full refund.

 Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm


 This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. 
For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the 
top right corner of any PayPal page.


To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your 
Notifications preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to 
your Profile and click My Settings.




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PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any 
general financial product advice provided in this site has not taken 
into account your objectives, financial situations or needs.

PayPal Email ID PP1120

/Reg Whitely/
/
/
/
/Home: 08 9921 7272/
/Mob: 04 8899 7313/
/Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net mailto:rwhit...@internode.on.net/
/
/
/




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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Rick Armstrong]

Same here with PayPal, I usually screen capture the email then go to the PayPal 
site and report it, PayPal always respond and are sometimes aware and sometimes 
not and always request you to delete the email and not to respond to PayPal 
from the email. The good thing with PayPal is that you are protected against 
any fraudulent activity. Rick.

On 09/10/2013, at 11:00 AM, Kevin Lock kal...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Reg,
 
 I have had several of these and advised PayPal who confirmed that it is a 
 Phishing scam to get your banking details.
 
 Regs,
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 
 
 On 9/10/13 2:53 PM, 
 
 
 
 Reg Whitely wrote:
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg
 
 _
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
 Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unverified [150.101.137.143]) 
  by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 5.3i) with ESMTP id 175089352-1927428  
 for rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
 Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.225]) by 
 ipmailmx05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 13:44:53 +1030
 Received: from unknown (HELO server-PC) ([203.59.132.147]) by 
 icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 11:14:40 +0800
 Return-Path: refunds.serv...@admin.net
 X-Ironport-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
 X-Ironport-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
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 AsoHAIzJVFLLOwHhnGdsb2JhbAAURQECCAKCNnyGW6kAAQGJYoh3chYOAQEBAQEGDQkJFCiCdAR1KWCIBQ2HCIc5iUCTPCqEJ4k6gliLIwoFAYFKhBkDgSuIDYg1AYdDhS6MXjeBP4FbBQQXgR0
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 d=scan'208,217;a=717520853
 X-Ironport-Av: E=Sophos;i=4.90,1060,1371052800;  
 d=scan'208,217;a=160731105
 Message-Id: 834e33$4p9...@icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
 boundary=JlTFDpWU5=_4P1gkjxRixDTFAZ4ipDGjCo0
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 X-Rcpt-To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Spamdetect: : -8.30 IronPort SPAM scanned=-10.0, Content Clean 
 match=-1.0, From3consonants=0.7, Possible url forgery/scam=2.0
 X-Urlforgery: (http://worldtrans.com.cn) (http://www.paypal.com.au)
 X-Spamcontent: Clean
 X-Langguess: English
 X-Ip-Stats: Incoming Last 0, First 497, in=29956, out=0, spam=0 
 ip=203.59.1.225
 Status: U
 X-Uidl: 91694
 
  
 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
 refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
 To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and 
 click My Settings.
 
 
 
 Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 Reg Whitely
 
 Home: 08 9921 7272
 Mob: 04 8899 7313
 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Looks like spam

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 02/09/2013, at 10:45 AM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Just received what looks like a spam posing as Apple iTunes, about updating 
 account info.
 
 It has two email addresses of the sender: Apple iTunes 
 ituens.i...@appel.co.nl
 and apple.itu...@platonos.targetpoint.gr
 
 I am about to ditch it.
 Pat

Good plan!:-)



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Perth, Western Australia
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Looks like spam

[Pat]

Just received what looks like a spam posing as Apple iTunes, about updating 
account info.

It has two email addresses of the sender: Apple iTunes ituens.i...@appel.co.nl
and apple.itu...@platonos.targetpoint.gr

I am about to ditch it.
Pat
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Fwd: Please confirm your information SPAM

[Bill Parker]

Dear Wamuggers,

You'll no doubt see this.  It must be spam.

Bill

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Apple onl...@apple.dot.com
 Subject: Please confirm your information
 Date: 8 June 2013 12:53:49 PM AWST
 To: b...@proteomics.com.au
 
 Please confirm your information
 
 Confirmation of your Apple ID gives you easy access to a variety of Apple 
 services, including the iTunes Store, Apple Online Store, iChat, and more
 
 Verification is required to protect your account information and helps us 
 serve you better.
 
 Please log in  http://www.apple.com/   to verify your account:
 
 Log in to verify account
 
 Copyright © 2013 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. Terms of Use Privacy Policy
 

Dr Bill Parker
ren...@westnet.com.au
0403 583 676
A couple of Galahs were sitting on a perch. One says to the other:
Can you smell some fish?






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Re: Please confirm your information SPAM

[Tim Law]

Well yes indeed it must.

Particularly given the link behind the log in to verify' is a website headed 
http://dikjumbo.web.id/tmp/apple/apple.com/

The really really easy way to see this is to hover your mouse over the link and 
see what is displayed as a Preview

Tim


 
On 08/06/2013, at 1:08 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Dear Wamuggers,
 
 You'll no doubt see this.  It must be spam.
 
 Bill
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Apple onl...@apple.dot.com
 Subject: Please confirm your information
 Date: 8 June 2013 12:53:49 PM AWST
 To: b...@proteomics.com.au
 
 Please confirm your information
 
 Confirmation of your Apple ID gives you easy access to a variety of Apple 
 services, including the iTunes Store, Apple Online Store, iChat, and more
 
 Verification is required to protect your account information and helps us 
 serve you better.
 
 Please log in  http://www.apple.com/   to verify your account:
 
 Log in to verify account
 
 Copyright © 2013 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. Terms of Use Privacy Policy
 
 
 Dr Bill Parker
 ren...@westnet.com.au
 0403 583 676
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 Can you smell some fish?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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spam

[Brett Curtis]

how many times do you have to mark a message as junk before Mail actually 
realises the emails are spam?
I have been getting mail from an Australian site called logo mates for a year 
now!
I mark it as junk, but mail keeps putting them in my inbox, saying Mail thinks 
this is spam   Golly gee!!!  maybe it is???

I have also forwarded it on to reportspam numerous times, but that appears to 
have as little impact as marking something as junk to Mail !!!  I thought it 
was illegal in Oz?

What do I have to do frchrisakes?

Brett Curtis
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Re: spam

[Daniel Kerr]

If Junk Mail is still coming to your InBox, then you may have it set to 
training mode.
If you want it to file them for you then in Mail - Preferences go to Junk 
Mail. 
You'll see choices like
When junk mail arrives
• Mark it as junk, but leave it in my Inbox
• Move it to the Junk mailbox
• Perform custom actions (Click Advanced to configure).

If you have it set to move to the Junk Mailbox then it will move them away 
for you from your InBox, but store them so you can just double check. (before 
deleting them).
Or you can customise it to do other options. (e.g. delete automatically) etc.

Depending on your hosting then you can also set them up with Cpanel from your 
hosting side as well, and create auto filters that will filter out a specific 
address to not be seen again. And adjust spam filters from the host end as 
well.
(which is what a lot of my hosting clients do).

spam as such in Australia can only be stopped if the company is operating 
from an Australian address with an Australia website/address etc. Nothing they 
can do about the rest of the world unfortunately.

My spam for the week is you have a message from LinkedIn, click here. About 
10+ a day. And I don't even belong to the stupid thing. Never signed up for 
LinkedIn, not interested in. Not interested in the spam. Yet,…I still get it. 
(pretending to be them).

Welcome to the world of the internet. Spam is it's ugly side effect I'm afraid.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5

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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Apple**

On 21/05/2013, at 8:55 PM, Brett Curtis br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au 
wrote:

 how many times do you have to mark a message as junk before Mail actually 
 realises the emails are spam?
 I have been getting mail from an Australian site called logo mates for a year 
 now!
 I mark it as junk, but mail keeps putting them in my inbox, saying Mail 
 thinks this is spam   Golly gee!!!  maybe it is???
 
 I have also forwarded it on to reportspam numerous times, but that appears to 
 have as little impact as marking something as junk to Mail !!!  I thought it 
 was illegal in Oz?
 
 What do I have to do frchrisakes?
 
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Re: spam

[Brett Curtis]

Thanks Daniel
I do have the Junk Mail setting set to move to the junk folder for review and 
that works most of the time.  Just some keep getting through and you can see 
the previous emails below, all with a message saying Mail thinks this is Junk 
 Why does Mail, not put them in the Junk folder?
Re: the training mode.  Where do you set this?  I have Enable junk mail 
filtering ticked.

Regards,

Brett Curtis
Master Window Cleaners   
0419 049 084
http://masterwindowcleaners.com.au/


On 21/05/2013, at 9:02 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 If Junk Mail is still coming to your InBox, then you may have it set to 
 training mode.
 If you want it to file them for you then in Mail - Preferences go to Junk 
 Mail. 
 You'll see choices like
 When junk mail arrives
 • Mark it as junk, but leave it in my Inbox
 • Move it to the Junk mailbox
 • Perform custom actions (Click Advanced to configure).
 
 If you have it set to move to the Junk Mailbox then it will move them away 
 for you from your InBox, but store them so you can just double check. 
 (before deleting them).
 Or you can customise it to do other options. (e.g. delete automatically) etc.
 
 Depending on your hosting then you can also set them up with Cpanel from your 
 hosting side as well, and create auto filters that will filter out a specific 
 address to not be seen again. And adjust spam filters from the host end as 
 well.
 (which is what a lot of my hosting clients do).
 
 spam as such in Australia can only be stopped if the company is operating 
 from an Australian address with an Australia website/address etc. Nothing 
 they can do about the rest of the world unfortunately.
 
 My spam for the week is you have a message from LinkedIn, click here. 
 About 10+ a day. And I don't even belong to the stupid thing. Never signed up 
 for LinkedIn, not interested in. Not interested in the spam. Yet,…I still get 
 it. (pretending to be them).
 
 Welcome to the world of the internet. Spam is it's ugly side effect I'm 
 afraid.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 21/05/2013, at 8:55 PM, Brett Curtis br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 how many times do you have to mark a message as junk before Mail actually 
 realises the emails are spam?
 I have been getting mail from an Australian site called logo mates for a 
 year now!
 I mark it as junk, but mail keeps putting them in my inbox, saying Mail 
 thinks this is spam   Golly gee!!!  maybe it is???
 
 I have also forwarded it on to reportspam numerous times, but that appears 
 to have as little impact as marking something as junk to Mail !!!  I thought 
 it was illegal in Oz?
 
 What do I have to do frchrisakes?
 
 Brett Curtis
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Re: spam

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Brett,

Just a thought ­ may not even be relevant since I use Entourage, rather than
Mail, as my email client.

I use a lot of mailing rules to sort my mail into different folders, as it
arrives, and sometimes find things where I don¹t expect them.

Generally, I find that this is due to the fact that the item COULD be picked
up by more than one rule ­ in this case what happens is that the item is
handled by the FIRST rule that is applicable, based on the rule priority
list. Generally, this is a one-off kind of thing ­ but otherwise I would
tweak either the rules or their order of priority.

As I say, I don¹t have any real experience with Mail ­ so I¹m not sure
exactly how it implements rules ­ but could it be that the problem emails
are being picked up by some ³rule² you have set ­ which is then overriding
the direction into the junk mail folder.


Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com






on 22/5/13 8:22, Brett Curtis at br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au wrote:

 Thanks Daniel
 I do have the Junk Mail setting set to move to the junk folder for review and
 that works most of the time.  Just some keep getting through and you can see
 the previous emails below, all with a message saying Mail thinks this is
 Junk  Why does Mail, not put them in the Junk folder?
 Re: the training mode.  Where do you set this?  I have Enable junk mail
 filtering ticked.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brett Curtis
 Master Window Cleaners
 0419 049 084
 http://masterwindowcleaners.com.au/
 
 
 On 21/05/2013, at 9:02 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 If Junk Mail is still coming to your InBox, then you may have it set to
 training mode.
 If you want it to file them for you then in Mail - Preferences go to Junk
 Mail. 
 You'll see choices like
 When junk mail arrives
 € Mark it as junk, but leave it in my Inbox
 € Move it to the Junk mailbox
 € Perform custom actions (Click Advanced to configure).
 
 If you have it set to move to the Junk Mailbox then it will move them away
 for you from your InBox, but store them so you can just double check.
 (before deleting them).
 Or you can customise it to do other options. (e.g. delete automatically) etc.
 
 Depending on your hosting then you can also set them up with Cpanel from your
 hosting side as well, and create auto filters that will filter out a specific
 address to not be seen again. And adjust spam filters from the host end as
 well.
 (which is what a lot of my hosting clients do).
 
 spam as such in Australia can only be stopped if the company is operating
 from an Australian address with an Australia website/address etc. Nothing
 they can do about the rest of the world unfortunately.
 
 My spam for the week is you have a message from LinkedIn, click here.
 About 10+ a day. And I don't even belong to the stupid thing. Never signed up
 for LinkedIn, not interested in. Not interested in the spam. Yet,ŠI still get
 it. (pretending to be them).
 
 Welcome to the world of the internet. Spam is it's ugly side effect I'm
 afraid.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 21/05/2013, at 8:55 PM, Brett Curtis br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au
 wrote:
 
 how many times do you have to mark a message as junk before Mail actually
 realises the emails are spam?
 I have been getting mail from an Australian site called logo mates for a
 year now!
 I mark it as junk, but mail keeps putting them in my inbox, saying Mail
 thinks this is spam   Golly gee!!!  maybe it is???
 
 I have also forwarded it on to reportspam numerous times, but that appears
 to have as little impact as marking something as junk to Mail !!!  I thought
 it was illegal in Oz?
 
 What do I have to do frchrisakes?
 
 Brett Curtis

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Re: Green Coffee Bean spam

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Thank you all very much.  I am sending this information on to my near and
dear who were supposedly the senders as they are naturally quite concerned.
 You have allayed some of my fears, that I will not receive a cascade of
green coffee beans nor have a compromised email.
 Best wishes,
Jennifer


On 10 April 2013 11:21, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:

 Hi Jennifer,

 And don't forget:

 Even if the from exactly matches one of your actual friends/relatives, it
 does not mean that either your or their email accounts have been
 compromised
 - it is easy to send an email with any from address you choose (I
 demonstrated this in a WAMUG post quite a while back).

 All it really means is that your friend/relative has had their email
 address
 harvested and included in a list of real email addresses for spammers
 to
 use. Nothing you or they can do about that.

 The problems can arise when you start interacting with these emails:

 If they have an unsubscribe link, clicking on it just confirms that your
 email address is live' you will probably get more spam.

 Clicking on links in these emails can result in downloading nasties or,
 more
 likely, being taken to dubious websites which try and spoof personal info
 from you.

 From what you say, I imagine the email was just trying to sell you a green
 coffee bean supplement - a fad health/diet supplement - in the same way
 that
 lots of these scams try and sell us viagra.

 Scambook logs a number of complaints about these emails, check:
 http://www.scambook.com/search/reports/p/1?search=green+coffeesort=date
 But only if you trust me ;o)

 I would suspect you have nothing to worry about provided you didn't
 actually
 go ahead and order anything ;o)


 HTH




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 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com




 on 10/4/13 10:40 AM, Susan Hastings at susanhasti...@mac.com wrote:

  Hi Jennifer, check the email address carefully to see if it is indeed
 from a
  relative. The SPAM may try to look like it comes from them, but vary very
  slightly.
 
  If the email address is different you just need to move the two emails
 into
  your SPAM folder. That will train your email app to do likewise when it
 sees
  that address.
 
  If the emails do have the correct addresses that are in your contact
 list then
  contact them to ask if they intentionally sent the links.
 
  Then it will be over to the experts if your email has been hacked. I
 don't
  know of any solution beyond ditching that email address and starting a
 new
  one.
 
  Susan
 
 
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 10/04/2013, at 9:12 AM, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Everyone,
 
  I have now had two emails with a link to a site spruiking green coffee
 beans.
  Unfortunately, both seemed to come from relatives who often send links
 and I
  did not check enough before opening.  (Don't say it.  I know!!)
 
 
  My question is: have two address books coincidentally been used or have
 I
  compromised my own email?  If the latter, what do I do?
 
  Many thanks,
  Jennifer
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Green Coffee Bean spam

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Hello Everyone,

I have now had two emails with a link to a site spruiking green coffee
beans.  Unfortunately, both seemed to come from relatives who often send
links and I did not check enough before opening.  (Don't say it.  I know!!)


My question is: have two address books coincidentally been used or have I
compromised my own email?  If the latter, what do I do?

Many thanks,
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Re: Green Coffee Bean spam

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Jennifer, check the email address carefully to see if it is indeed from a 
relative. The SPAM may try to look like it comes from them, but vary very 
slightly.

If the email address is different you just need to move the two emails into 
your SPAM folder. That will train your email app to do likewise when it sees 
that address.

If the emails do have the correct addresses that are in your contact list then 
contact them to ask if they intentionally sent the links.

Then it will be over to the experts if your email has been hacked. I don't know 
of any solution beyond ditching that email address and starting a new one.

Susan



Sent from my iPad

On 10/04/2013, at 9:12 AM, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 I have now had two emails with a link to a site spruiking green coffee beans. 
  Unfortunately, both seemed to come from relatives who often send links and I 
 did not check enough before opening.  (Don't say it.  I know!!)
 
 
 My question is: have two address books coincidentally been used or have I 
 compromised my own email?  If the latter, what do I do?
 
 Many thanks,
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Re: Green Coffee Bean spam

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Jennifer,

And don't forget:

Even if the from exactly matches one of your actual friends/relatives, it
does not mean that either your or their email accounts have been compromised
- it is easy to send an email with any from address you choose (I
demonstrated this in a WAMUG post quite a while back).

All it really means is that your friend/relative has had their email address
harvested and included in a list of real email addresses for spammers to
use. Nothing you or they can do about that.

The problems can arise when you start interacting with these emails:

If they have an unsubscribe link, clicking on it just confirms that your
email address is live' you will probably get more spam.

Clicking on links in these emails can result in downloading nasties or, more
likely, being taken to dubious websites which try and spoof personal info
from you.

From what you say, I imagine the email was just trying to sell you a green
coffee bean supplement - a fad health/diet supplement - in the same way that
lots of these scams try and sell us viagra.

Scambook logs a number of complaints about these emails, check:
http://www.scambook.com/search/reports/p/1?search=green+coffeesort=date
But only if you trust me ;o)

I would suspect you have nothing to worry about provided you didn't actually
go ahead and order anything ;o)


HTH




Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




on 10/4/13 10:40 AM, Susan Hastings at susanhasti...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Jennifer, check the email address carefully to see if it is indeed from a
 relative. The SPAM may try to look like it comes from them, but vary very
 slightly.
 
 If the email address is different you just need to move the two emails into
 your SPAM folder. That will train your email app to do likewise when it sees
 that address.
 
 If the emails do have the correct addresses that are in your contact list then
 contact them to ask if they intentionally sent the links.
 
 Then it will be over to the experts if your email has been hacked. I don't
 know of any solution beyond ditching that email address and starting a new
 one.
 
 Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 10/04/2013, at 9:12 AM, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I have now had two emails with a link to a site spruiking green coffee beans.
 Unfortunately, both seemed to come from relatives who often send links and I
 did not check enough before opening.  (Don't say it.  I know!!)
 
 
 My question is: have two address books coincidentally been used or have I
 compromised my own email?  If the latter, what do I do?
 
 Many thanks,
 Jennifer
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Re: Mail.app learning SPAM

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Tim

It shouldn't do, as you're flagging that particular email address, rather then 
the domain itself. If however you'd said any address from @stgeorge.com.au then 
yes, you'd be stopping all the email from them.
But if when you set it as Junk you just used the email address itself, it will 
stop just that one particular email. So the others should go through fine.
(I think I had one of those today too, but as I don't bank with them,..it went 
straight into trash) ;o)

Hope that helps.

Kind regards
Daniel
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Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
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**For everything Apple**

On 21/02/2013, at 2:59 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:

 Good afternoon,
 
 I'm using Mail.app 6.2 with Mountain Lion 10.8.2.
 
 Several times a day, a Spam email slips through the Mail.app filter and 
 appears in my inbox. I have generally been deleting them, but recently taken 
 to using the 'thumbs down' which marks them as spam. I understand this helps 
 Mail.app learn what I think is spam, as well as its own filters. 
 
 Today I had a spam email appearing to come from 
 stgeorgeautomotivefina...@stgeorge.com.au.
 I tagged is as spam, but it got me wondering how clever the spam filtering 
 is. 
 
 My query is that given I bank with StGeorge.com.au, and get legitimate emails 
 from them that I WANT and NEED to see, does flagging spam email such as this 
 one increase the change that legitimate emails from StGeorge will be captured 
 and sent to the spam trap? 
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Tim
 
 
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Re: Mail.app learning SPAM

[Tim Law]

Thanks Daniel.

That clears it up, it sounds like a pretty black and white process.

I know spam filters give emails a grading and if it reaches a threshold then it 
dumps that email as spam.  

I was thinking that by the user flagging a message as spam it would add a 
certain number of 'points' to that email, so that legitimate emails might still 
get through as long as they didn't contain other material that triggered the 
concern of the spam filter. 

I'll take care when using the 'thumbs down' button so I don't lose any of my 
legitimate contacts.

Ta

Tim









On 21/02/2013, at 8:44 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi Tim
 
 It shouldn't do, as you're flagging that particular email address, rather 
 then the domain itself. If however you'd said any address from 
 @stgeorge.com.au then yes, you'd be stopping all the email from them.
 But if when you set it as Junk you just used the email address itself, it 
 will stop just that one particular email. So the others should go through 
 fine.
 (I think I had one of those today too, but as I don't bank with them,..it 
 went straight into trash) ;o)
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 21/02/2013, at 2:59 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
 
 Good afternoon,
 
 I'm using Mail.app 6.2 with Mountain Lion 10.8.2.
 
 Several times a day, a Spam email slips through the Mail.app filter and 
 appears in my inbox. I have generally been deleting them, but recently taken 
 to using the 'thumbs down' which marks them as spam. I understand this helps 
 Mail.app learn what I think is spam, as well as its own filters. 
 
 Today I had a spam email appearing to come from 
 stgeorgeautomotivefina...@stgeorge.com.au.
 I tagged is as spam, but it got me wondering how clever the spam filtering 
 is. 
 
 My query is that given I bank with StGeorge.com.au, and get legitimate 
 emails from them that I WANT and NEED to see, does flagging spam email such 
 as this one increase the change that legitimate emails from StGeorge will be 
 captured and sent to the spam trap? 
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Tim
 
 
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Mail.app learning SPAM

[Tim Law]

Good afternoon,

I'm using Mail.app 6.2 with Mountain Lion 10.8.2.

Several times a day, a Spam email slips through the Mail.app filter and appears 
in my inbox. I have generally been deleting them, but recently taken to using 
the 'thumbs down' which marks them as spam. I understand this helps Mail.app 
learn what I think is spam, as well as its own filters. 

Today I had a spam email appearing to come from 
stgeorgeautomotivefina...@stgeorge.com.au.
I tagged is as spam, but it got me wondering how clever the spam filtering is. 

My query is that given I bank with StGeorge.com.au, and get legitimate emails 
from them that I WANT and NEED to see, does flagging spam email such as this 
one increase the change that legitimate emails from StGeorge will be captured 
and sent to the spam trap? 

Any thoughts?

Tim


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New Spam?

[peta belczowski]

This morning an email came through on my husband's iPad.

This showed the Sender as : Web Account Services

The content read that his  - agreed usage was full and to click on the link 
within the text :

validate here. ………

Of course he did not click on the link, but we were wondering if this is doing 
the rounds?

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Re: New Spam?

[Bill Parker]

Something like 4 -5 every day, mixtures of all sorts, seen this one several 
times. All junk its just the daily round.

Bill 
On 04/01/2013, at 7:06 AM, peta belczowski wrote:

 This morning an email came through on my husband's iPad.
 
 This showed the Sender as : Web Account Services
 
 The content read that his  - agreed usage was full and to click on the link 
 within the text :
 
validate here. ………
 
 Of course he did not click on the link, but we were wondering if this is 
 doing the rounds?
 
 Regards, and Best Wishes for the New Year,
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Re: SPAM from Apple? Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you

[Alex]

Thanks Ronni,

Cheers,  Alex

On 28/11/2012, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 Apple are very chatty lately, I've been receiving this email also.
 You can verify your email address by logging in at http://appleid.apple.com/ 
  by manually typing that address into your web browser, rather than  
 clicking the link in the email.

 Also read the support article below, which includes details about  
 verifying your AppleID:

 http://support.apple.com/kb/he37
 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 28/11/2012, at 1:31 AM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Hello Wamuggians

 my wife received the email below  I would like to confirm whether it
 could be spam/malicious?  She did try to download a weather app from
 the app store the previous night for her iPhone 4S, which she
 cancelled as it was taking a long time  did not seem to be behaving
 properly, so this may be an Apple communication related to this.
 Seeing as the principle is that one does not click on links from
 bank sites to verify one's details, I thought this should fall in
 the same category.

 Many thanks in advance for your input,

 Cheers,  Alex

 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Glenda Novakovic glendan...@tm.org.au
 Date: 27 November 2012 8:44:30 PM
 To: Alex aln...@highway1.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Apple appl...@id.apple.com
 Date: 26 November 2012 22:00
 Subject: Please verify that we have the right address for you
 To: glendan...@tm.org.au



 Thank you.

 You’ve taken the added security step and provided a rescue email
 address. Now all you need to do is verify that it belongs to you.

 The rescue email address that you gave us is glendan...@tm.org.au.
 Just click the link below to verify, sign in using your Apple ID and
 password, then follow the prompts.

 Verify Now 

 The rescue email address is dedicated to your security and allows
 Apple to get in touch if any account questions come up, such as the
 need to reset your password or change your security questions. As
 promised, Apple will never send any announcements or marketing
 messages to this address.

 When using Apple products and services, you’ll still sign in with
 your primary email address as your Apple ID.

 It’s about protecting your identity.
 Just so you know, Apple sends out an email whenever someone adds or
 changes a rescue email address associated with an existing Apple ID.
 If you received this email in error, don’t worry. It’s likely
 someone just mistyped their own email address when creating a new
 Apple ID.

 If you have questions or need help, visit the Apple ID Support site.

 Thanks again,

 Apple Support

 TM and copyright © 2012 Apple Inc. 1 Infinite Loop, MS 96-DM,
 Cupertino, CA 95014.
 All Rights Reserved / Keep Informed / Privacy Policy / My Apple ID




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 With all best wishes

 Glenda Novakovic
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 (08) 3467 4108 / 041 277 4429
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SPAM from Apple? Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you

[Alex]

Hello Wamuggians

my wife received the email below  I would like to confirm whether it  
could be spam/malicious?  She did try to download a weather app from  
the app store the previous night for her iPhone 4S, which she  
cancelled as it was taking a long time  did not seem to be behaving  
properly, so this may be an Apple communication related to this.   
Seeing as the principle is that one does not click on links from  
bank sites to verify one's details, I thought this should fall in  
the same category.

Many thanks in advance for your input,

Cheers,  Alex

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Glenda Novakovic glendan...@tm.org.au
 Date: 27 November 2012 8:44:30 PM
 To: Alex aln...@highway1.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Apple appl...@id.apple.com
 Date: 26 November 2012 22:00
 Subject: Please verify that we have the right address for you
 To: glendan...@tm.org.au



 Thank you.

 You’ve taken the added security step and provided a rescue email  
 address. Now all you need to do is verify that it belongs to you.

 The rescue email address that you gave us is glendan...@tm.org.au.
 Just click the link below to verify, sign in using your Apple ID and  
 password, then follow the prompts.

 Verify Now 

 The rescue email address is dedicated to your security and allows  
 Apple to get in touch if any account questions come up, such as the  
 need to reset your password or change your security questions. As  
 promised, Apple will never send any announcements or marketing  
 messages to this address.

 When using Apple products and services, you’ll still sign in with  
 your primary email address as your Apple ID.

 It’s about protecting your identity.
 Just so you know, Apple sends out an email whenever someone adds or  
 changes a rescue email address associated with an existing Apple ID.  
 If you received this email in error, don’t worry. It’s likely  
 someone just mistyped their own email address when creating a new  
 Apple ID.

 If you have questions or need help, visit the Apple ID Support site.

 Thanks again,

 Apple Support

 TM and copyright © 2012 Apple Inc. 1 Infinite Loop, MS 96-DM,  
 Cupertino, CA 95014.
 All Rights Reserved / Keep Informed / Privacy Policy / My Apple ID




 -- 
 With all best wishes

 Glenda Novakovic
 Certified Teacher of the Transcendental Meditation® Program
 (08) 3467 4108 / 041 277 4429
 glendan...@tm.org.au
 www.meditationperth.org.au


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Re: SPAM from Apple? Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alex,

Apple are very chatty lately, I've been receiving this email also.
You can verify your email address by logging in at http://appleid.apple.com/ by 
manually typing that address into your web browser, rather than clicking the 
link in the email.
 
Also read the support article below, which includes details about verifying 
your AppleID:
 
http://support.apple.com/kb/he37
Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 28/11/2012, at 1:31 AM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Hello Wamuggians
 
 my wife received the email below  I would like to confirm whether it  
 could be spam/malicious?  She did try to download a weather app from  
 the app store the previous night for her iPhone 4S, which she  
 cancelled as it was taking a long time  did not seem to be behaving  
 properly, so this may be an Apple communication related to this.   
 Seeing as the principle is that one does not click on links from  
 bank sites to verify one's details, I thought this should fall in  
 the same category.
 
 Many thanks in advance for your input,
 
 Cheers,  Alex
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Glenda Novakovic glendan...@tm.org.au
 Date: 27 November 2012 8:44:30 PM
 To: Alex aln...@highway1.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Apple appl...@id.apple.com
 Date: 26 November 2012 22:00
 Subject: Please verify that we have the right address for you
 To: glendan...@tm.org.au
 
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 You’ve taken the added security step and provided a rescue email  
 address. Now all you need to do is verify that it belongs to you.
 
 The rescue email address that you gave us is glendan...@tm.org.au.
 Just click the link below to verify, sign in using your Apple ID and  
 password, then follow the prompts.
 
 Verify Now 
 
 The rescue email address is dedicated to your security and allows  
 Apple to get in touch if any account questions come up, such as the  
 need to reset your password or change your security questions. As  
 promised, Apple will never send any announcements or marketing  
 messages to this address.
 
 When using Apple products and services, you’ll still sign in with  
 your primary email address as your Apple ID.
 
 It’s about protecting your identity.
 Just so you know, Apple sends out an email whenever someone adds or  
 changes a rescue email address associated with an existing Apple ID.  
 If you received this email in error, don’t worry. It’s likely  
 someone just mistyped their own email address when creating a new  
 Apple ID.
 
 If you have questions or need help, visit the Apple ID Support site.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Apple Support
 
 TM and copyright © 2012 Apple Inc. 1 Infinite Loop, MS 96-DM,  
 Cupertino, CA 95014.
 All Rights Reserved / Keep Informed / Privacy Policy / My Apple ID
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 With all best wishes
 
 Glenda Novakovic
 Certified Teacher of the Transcendental Meditation® Program
 (08) 3467 4108 / 041 277 4429
 glendan...@tm.org.au
 www.meditationperth.org.au
 
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Re: ?spam

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 

   
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .
 
 Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
 never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.
 
 Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond 
 to this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 
 'contact us' section of natwest.co.uk.
 
 
 Internet support team  

 
 Mac
 Malcolm McCallum
 
 doc...@westnet.com.au
 Skype docmactor
 


If you are using Mail in Lion or Mountain Lion, the ability to use Quicklook 
URLs is invaluable for sorting this stuff out. It's difficult in this case 
since the URL itself is invalid, but normally a Quicklook URL work like this:

1. HOVER your mouse pointer over the URL. DO NOT CLICK THE BUTTON.

2. You will see a small dark grey box appear at the end of the URL, containing 
a white triangle. Click the box

3. A quicklook window will open up and render the page behind the URL. 

The Quicklook URL circumvents the use of a Browser, giving you a Preview of 
the page, thereby avoiding the various nasties which might be lurking in any 
backend scripts executed by the browser. The links within the Quicklook page 
are live, but be aware that clicking one will generally activate your browser.

Interestingly enough, in this case the URL does actually resolve to a very 
genuine-looking log-in page for the Digital Banking service of the Royal Bank 
of Scotland. Generally, if the URL is bogus, the Quicklook URL exposes the 
culprit site. In my experience it's pretty hard to fool. This one looks to be 
legitimate. 

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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?spam

[McCallum Malcolm]

I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell me 
if this is spam or is it real?


 

This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
your account. Update your digital Banking 
athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .

Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.

Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond to 
this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 'contact 
us' section of natwest.co.uk.


Internet support team
 

Mac
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



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Re: ?spam

[Severin Crisp]

Immediate delete Malcolm!   
Severin Crisp

On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 

   
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .
 
 Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
 never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.
 
 Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond 
 to this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 
 'contact us' section of natwest.co.uk.
 
 
 Internet support team  

 
 Mac
 Malcolm McCallum
 
 doc...@westnet.com.au
 Skype docmactor
 
 
 
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Re: ?spam

[Lynn Koh]

Hi Mac

I would suggest open a new internet window (whatever you do, DO NOT click the 
link in the email), type in your internet banking web address and log in that 
way (if you use internet banking). If you dont, i wouldd say most likely it is 
spam.

if it is a legitimate email, your 'mail inbox' in your netbanking account will 
also display the same email you got.

regards
Lynn

- Original Message -
From: McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au
To: Wamug Wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Friday, 12 October, 2012 11:14:26 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
Hong Kong / Urumqi
Subject: ?spam

I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell me 
if this is spam or is it real?


 

This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
your account. Update your digital Banking 
athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .

Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.

Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond to 
this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 'contact 
us' section of natwest.co.uk.


Internet support team
 

Mac
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



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Re: ?spam

[McCallum Malcolm]

Thanks -- WILL DO!
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



On 12/10/2012, at 11:57 AM, Lynn Koh lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Hi Mac
 
 I would suggest open a new internet window (whatever you do, DO NOT click the 
 link in the email), type in your internet banking web address and log in that 
 way (if you use internet banking). If you dont, i wouldd say most likely it 
 is spam.
 
 if it is a legitimate email, your 'mail inbox' in your netbanking account 
 will also display the same email you got.
 
 regards
 Lynn
 
 - Original Message -
 From: McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au
 To: Wamug Wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
 Sent: Friday, 12 October, 2012 11:14:26 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
 Hong Kong / Urumqi
 Subject: ?spam
 
 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 

   
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .
 
 Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
 never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.
 
 Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond 
 to this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 
 'contact us' section of natwest.co.uk.
 
 
 Internet support team  

 
 Mac
 Malcolm McCallum
 
 doc...@westnet.com.au
 Skype docmactor
 
 
 
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Re: ?spam

[Geoff and Kaye]

Malcolm

On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:

 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?

It is almost certainly spam, but it is difficult to tell what they hope to 
achieve with this message. Looking at the raw source would help as it is 
possible that the URL given is embedded in a different URL which is where a 
browser would go if you clicked on the link.

 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .


In fact the athttps bit makes the URL illegal apart from anything else - there 
is no such protocol and so clicking on this link will just result in an error 
message from your browser. Presumably they meant to say digital Banking at 
https://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx;. The rbsdigital.com domain is owned by 
the Royal Bank of Scotland but as suggested above you cannot be sure that this 
link (even without the at) will actually take you there.

If you do not bank with the RBoS then it is definitely spam. The awkward 
wording of most of the message together with the lack of detail is also highly 
suggestive of spam.

I'm with Sev - delete it.

Geoff
--
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k...@kgweb.org.au




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Re: ?spam

[McCallum Malcolm]

Thanks I have deleted it :-)

Mac
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



On 12/10/2012, at 12:15 PM, Geoff and Kaye k...@kgweb.org.au wrote:

 Malcolm
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:
 
 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 It is almost certainly spam, but it is difficult to tell what they hope to 
 achieve with this message. Looking at the raw source would help as it is 
 possible that the URL given is embedded in a different URL which is where a 
 browser would go if you clicked on the link.
 
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details 
 .
 
 
 In fact the athttps bit makes the URL illegal apart from anything else - 
 there is no such protocol and so clicking on this link will just result in an 
 error message from your browser. Presumably they meant to say digital 
 Banking at https://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx;. The rbsdigital.com 
 domain is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland but as suggested above you 
 cannot be sure that this link (even without the at) will actually take you 
 there.
 
 If you do not bank with the RBoS then it is definitely spam. The awkward 
 wording of most of the message together with the lack of detail is also 
 highly suggestive of spam.
 
 I'm with Sev - delete it.
 
 Geoff
 --
 Geoff and Kaye
 k...@kgweb.org.au
 
 
 
 
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Fwd: Spam alert

[Ronda Brown]

Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot of 
the below SPAM emails!

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few spam 
 emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please complete 
 the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't use 
 (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but cheap 
 meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating at 
 red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **

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Re: Spam alert

[Bill Parker]

I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and Leopard 
before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up unwanted 
guests.   And still does.

Bill
On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot of 
 the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few spam 
 emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please complete 
 the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't use 
 (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but cheap 
 meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating at 
 red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Bill,

What Daniel is meaning I would assume... The zip file in these emails normally 
contains an .exe file which contains the virus; and an .exe file cannot be 
opened on a Mac. 
Therefore they can't cause any damage on a Mac.

Common sense and safe practices is required.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 30/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and 
 Leopard before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up 
 unwanted guests.   And still does.
 
 Bill
 On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot 
 of the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few 
 spam emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please 
 complete the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't 
 use (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but cheap 
 meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating at 
 red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Bill Parker]

I am sure he is, but Sophos tells me what they are and responds if I tell it to 
quarantine.  I installed Sophos from advice I got from Charles Taylor at Macs4U 
when we set-up a new computer.

Bill

 Hi Bill,
 
 What Daniel is meaning I would assume... The zip file in these emails 
 normally contains an .exe file which contains the virus; and an .exe file 
 cannot be opened on a Mac. 
 Therefore they can't cause any damage on a Mac.
 
 Common sense and safe practices is required.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 30/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and 
 Leopard before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up 
 unwanted guests.   And still does.
 
 Bill
 On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot 
 of the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few 
 spam emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please 
 complete the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't 
 use (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but cheap 
 meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating 
 at red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Bill and Ronni

Yes, it was more the mention of them, so people knew. Not about how to deal 
with viruses etc etc,… :)
The files themselves generally wont' worry the Mac. Sure if you have Parallels 
etc then an .exe file will load straight into that and can cause hassles.
Yes, helpful to have virus software for some instances.
And yes, common sense is a fantastic practice to deal with them,…
Those emails arrive (with attachments) and I simply delete them. Problem 
solved. I've got virus software to check my machine (once in a blue moon) but I 
don't run it all the time.
I don't work with a lot of Word documents, bar ones I get sent from clients to 
check or that won't open. And I can them to check. But I don't generally have 
to stress about it in my line of work for things coming through my email or 
computer.

As an aside, in over 11 years of doing computer consulting I've only ever had 
ONE call out for something that was virus related. And it was an old OS9 
computer with a Word macro virus. (And that was about 9 years ago now). It had 
infected the Word documents but nothing else. An easy fix and software then 
installed to keep a check on it. But apart from that, I've never had any other 
virus related call outs, even in the instances where they thought it might be a 
virus,..a scan showed nothing.
I'm sure the same couldn't be said for a Windows consultant! lol :)) (In fact 
I'm sure for some of them, their bread and butter is removing viruses,…lol. :o)

(Thanks Ronni, for forwarding it on as well). Hopefully this email will get 
here too.


Enjoy!

KInd regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 4s

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Apple**

On 30/08/2012, at 3:57 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am sure he is, but Sophos tells me what they are and responds if I tell it 
 to quarantine.  I installed Sophos from advice I got from Charles Taylor at 
 Macs4U when we set-up a new computer.
 
 Bill
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 What Daniel is meaning I would assume... The zip file in these emails 
 normally contains an .exe file which contains the virus; and an .exe file 
 cannot be opened on a Mac. 
 Therefore they can't cause any damage on a Mac.
 
 Common sense and safe practices is required.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 30/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and 
 Leopard before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up 
 unwanted guests.   And still does.
 
 Bill
 On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot 
 of the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few 
 spam emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form 
 attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please 
 complete the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't 
 use (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but 
 cheap meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating 
 at red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 30/08/2012, at 6:09 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi Bill and Ronni
 
 Yes, it was more the mention of them, so people knew. Not about how to deal 
 with viruses etc etc,… :)
 The files themselves generally wont' worry the Mac. Sure if you have 
 Parallels etc then an .exe file will load straight into that and can cause 
 hassles.
 Yes, helpful to have virus software for some instances.
 And yes, common sense is a fantastic practice to deal with them,…
 Those emails arrive (with attachments) and I simply delete them. Problem 
 solved. I've got virus software to check my machine (once in a blue moon) but 
 I don't run it all the time.
 I don't work with a lot of Word documents, bar ones I get sent from clients 
 to check or that won't open. And I can them to check. But I don't generally 
 have to stress about it in my line of work for things coming through my email 
 or computer.
 
 As an aside, in over 11 years of doing computer consulting I've only ever had 
 ONE call out for something that was virus related. And it was an old OS9 
 computer with a Word macro virus. (And that was about 9 years ago now). It 
 had infected the Word documents but nothing else. An easy fix and software 
 then installed to keep a check on it. But apart from that, I've never had any 
 other virus related call outs, even in the instances where they thought it 
 might be a virus,..a scan showed nothing.
 I'm sure the same couldn't be said for a Windows consultant! lol :)) (In fact 
 I'm sure for some of them, their bread and butter is removing viruses,…lol. 
 :o)
 
 (Thanks Ronni, for forwarding it on as well). Hopefully this email will get 
 here too.
 
 

One of the great strengths of Apple's Mail (and why I won't use anything else) 
is the fact that it takes full advantage of OS X's QuickLook system. One of the 
great features of QuickLook is its support for plugins, and one of the more 
useful of these is the BetterZip plugin.

http://www.quicklookplugins.com/2007/12/02/zip-betterzip/

Once installed, it gives you an instant peak inside the contents of any .zip 
file. It is particularly useful for quickly examining these little nasties 
without running any risks associated with opening them. A simply slick of the 
QuickLook button at the top of the message opens a window displaying the 
contents of the archive, and these attachments typically contain nothing but 
the aforementioned .exe file. Of course, BetterZip is useful for looking inside 
legitimate Zipped attachments as well, so you can see what you might be getting 
before you actually open the attachment.

As an adjunct to this, QuickLook in 10.7 and above also works on embedded URLs, 
so you can preview those inviting links before you actually click them: you 
know, the ones from the bank that say things like your password needs to be 
reset. Please click here to correct the issue or something similar. Invariably 
these links lead off to some site in Russia or somewhere, performing some nasty 
magic along the way. QuickLook lets you see what the destination page looks 
like without involving your browser.
 

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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OT - spam alert

[Pat]

I received an e-mail purporting to be from the USPS about a package that could 
not be delivered.  Suspected spam, so checked with Google. This URL tells all 
about it:

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/consumer/SpamAlert.pdf

Pat
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