Hubertl, 18/06/2013 07:00:
Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says:
And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting
and keeping editors
???
It is difficult to draw conclusions about user behavior. The more
difficult it is to say something about the behavior of persons, which
a
Am 16.06.2013 15:24, schrieb Johan Jönsson:
I would say our experience is that it doesn't affect the number of human
editors at all in any way.
Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says:
And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting
and keeping editors
???
It is difficu
Hi Anders, you wrote:
> And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually
> helps recruting and keeping editors
Do you have any prove for that or is this just a speculation or your
personal wishes? Does this mean that the Swedish community precisely
because this botwork has - against the
Hi Asaf, did you read my mail or is this an automated answer because of
using the word monkey? Or is this a just a try like an official muzzle?
Really rude for me is, when some Wikipedians think, they have to start
a professional service company for transporting simple facts without
efforts to
As far as I know, that's even planned by the Wikidata team.
Cheers
Martin
2013/6/18 Ziko van Dijk
> Hello,
> I am also unhappy with the mail from Hubertl, and also some remarks that
> good be understood as a criticism of the German Wikipedia editing
> community. Actually, both opinions coexist
Hello,
I am also unhappy with the mail from Hubertl, and also some remarks that
good be understood as a criticism of the German Wikipedia editing
community. Actually, both opinions coexist also in de.WP, although the anti
bot faction is obviously stronger.
My concern is that bot articles usually st
Hi!
Sad for seeing you so disappointed. Good to see you have insight
in butterflies. So I hope you will make your knowledge visible
on dewp, where neither genera so far have found its way into
articles. enwp (together with viwp!) has at least the genus
"Jameela" as an article.
That aside, i
Am 17.06.2013 16:01, schrieb Jan Ainali:
2013/6/17 Ilario Valdelli
One of the strategic goal of the plan of wikimedia movement is the quality.
That is true. However, the strategic plan does not go into detail on how to
measure it. Is it an article that only has claims backed by sources? If
Hubertl, your e-mail was rude, even if you did not mean it to be. Please
remember hundreds of people read every e-mail sent to this list, and
civility is expected.
Thanks,
Asaf
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Per A.J. Andersson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Nice to know German language Wikipedia is f
Hi!
Nice to know German language Wikipedia is full of sane people.
Good for you.
But maybe you don't need bots, so that's your decision. (You do
not need infoboxes either, as I see it, and that's also your
decision. Lsjbot makes infoboxes, among other things.)
Yes, a larger database is mor
Deryck, I re-read your message and i looked up the [[WP:outline]] feature.
Looks interesting, thanks for showing me that.
On 17 June 2013 12:07, Alex Peek wrote:
> I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using
> Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data.
>
> Thi
I do not intend that this become a new sister project. I am simply using
Wikipedia as a platform to consolidate the data.
This project is oriented for public administration. Wikidata serves a
different goal.
On 17 June 2013 12:00, Deryck Chan wrote:
> Wouldn't this fall within the scope of [[W
Wouldn't this fall within the scope of [[WP:Outlines]] already, and
therefore doesn't need its sister project? Future developments of Wikidata
will make it even easier for such articles on Wikipedia to be updated.
On 17 June 2013 19:56, Alex Peek wrote:
> Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik
Homepage: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map
The goal of this project is to improve public understanding economic data
and serve public administration.
It's time that we create a standardized model that everyone can understand
and relate to. Given the challenges that our world fa
We just published a blog post from Lennart Guldbransson on the Wikimedia
blog about this milestone:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/17/swedish-wikipedia-1-million-articles/
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
> The use of wikidata instead of a bot is a good practice to pro
Charles - How beautiful. Thank you for doing and sharing this.
In what way was the partnership unexpected? Did the Bellevue prison
approach Wikipedians?
Here is the announcement page w/PDF from the WM-CH site:
https://www.wikimedia.ch/%5Bi18n-termpath-raw%5D/wikipedia-jail
SJ
SJ
On Mon, Jun
Charles Andrès, 17/06/2013 16:15:
Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and
Wikimedia CH
Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia
CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an
access to W
Hello all,
it’s my great pleasure to announce that as of today, Toby Negrin is
joining the Wikimedia Foundation as the new Director of Analytics.
Toby will be responsible for leading the analytics team, which is
responsible for enabling data-driven decisions in the Wikimedia
Foundation and the bro
Now THIS is seriously clever!
Well done WMCH - that is a truly innovative way to provide access to
knowledge to a community who is often forgotten.
Can you link to the press release here, please?
-Liam / Wittylama
wittylama.com
Peace, love & metadata
On 17 June 2013 14:15, Charles Andrès wrote
Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison and
Wikimedia CH
Following an initiative from Emmanuel Engelhart, with the support of Wikimedia
CH CAO, Chantal Ebongué, since March 2013, prisoners who request can have an
access to Wikipedia offline (Kiwix project). Th
The use of wikidata instead of a bot is a good practice to provude good
contant to all wikipedias because larger communities can control and fix
errors instead of providing content by a bot and keep it outdated.
Il giorno 17/giu/2013 15:53, "Gerard Meijssen"
ha scritto:
> Hoi,
>
> Please consider
2013/6/17 Ilario Valdelli
>
> One of the strategic goal of the plan of wikimedia movement is the quality.
>
That is true. However, the strategic plan does not go into detail on how to
measure it. Is it an article that only has claims backed by sources? If so,
the bot-generated articles are very
Hoi,
Please consider there are over 280 Wikipedias in as many languages. In
many languages we have few articles. Providing information is our mission.
We aim to provide well written articles. The argument is that we do not
succeed at that. Actually it is not an argument, it is a fact. When th
Instead i agree that it's much better to have one qualitative article about
the topic than 10 stubs.
One of the strategic goal of the plan of wikimedia movement is the quality.
Il giorno 17/giu/2013 14:28, "Peter Southwood"
ha scritto:
> I agree that the 100th article is much better than
On 17.06.2013 12:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
On 16/06/13 15:24, Johan Jönsson wrote:
2013/6/16 Ilario Valdelli
I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish
is due
to a work of bots and to a work of people.
It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which
I agree that the 100th article is much better than no article on the
subject, and I too joined the project with no previous training
- Original Message -
From: "Balázs Viczián"
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikip
I am totally supportive of the idea to create articles in this way if they
are more than a simple infobox with 5-6 stats in it. The bot generated form
[1] of the millionth Swedish article is where these bot generated articles
can start from; a useful stub. If we take seriously this "collect the sum
In the beginning there were a mass of article created manually that was
substandard and which today would not be accepted as proper articles
A little later (several year ago now) a mass of articles were
botgenerated that were substandard and could not be seen as proper
wp:articles
We have si
On 16/06/13 15:24, Johan Jönsson wrote:
2013/6/16 Ilario Valdelli
I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish is due
to a work of bots and to a work of people.
It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which would have
more people and more contributors.
Payin´ peanuts, gettin´ monkeys
Servin´ facts, gettin´ idiots.
An unmanageable, not maintainable mass of articles is the best way to
breed idiots. Because facts do not create knowledge.
If that is our goal, then automatically created Wikipedias ar the best
way to solve one of our biggest pro
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